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Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by akintom(m): 8:27pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
ever811: what is the meaning of exactly what it is? I asked you for the processes by which you KNOW (if you know the meaning of that), God exists and created you. ever811:I may ignore you, if you don't make any intelligent sense to me. I hold the right to do so. Without a care of what you think. |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:46pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
felixomor: They are intransigent about their arguments focusing on religion to stay relevant. What they do is religious skepticism . Their puny minds believe that being skeptical about religious beliefs is tantamount to questioning the existence of God. People who acknowledge the existence of God can be religious skeptics too . 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:51pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
jonbellion: WHat the ... What ?! Atheism has nothing to do with reason . Atheism is extremely illogical
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Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by Wilgrea7(m): 9:02pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
LightandDarkness: i admit i might be wrong... yes... i know why i said that... if i say i am right and start quoting bible, the Muslim will do the same and start quoting Koran... so will the jew, Hindu, etc quoting their respective books... so when you put books aside, experience comes in…… @ the bolded... i remember stating experience... i won't lie... experience didn't let me agree with letter at some point.... for example comparing the kind of love i felt to the said hatred in the old testament.... I'm still looking for an explanation.. I'll soon find one.. that's why i said when experience comes, the letter hides... although why i still read the letters is because some of the letters agree with my experience.. both within and outside the bible e.g pseudographical and apocryphal books, I've not ventured very deep into other religious books tho i do admit i might be wrong... but i also admit i might be right also.. if someone has proof that I'm wrong, the person can bring it forth |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by jonbellion(m): 9:18pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:stop talking like a diest you are not 1 Like |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by jonbellion(m): 9:21pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
ever811:stop strawmanning the argument |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:23pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
jonbellion: The difference between a deist and theist is the acceptance of the immanence of God by the latter . Both the theist and deist believe that Reason , Science and Nature can serve as evidence for God . The acknowledgement of the immanence of God instigated religious beliefs and practices . 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by jonbellion(m): 9:23pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
ever811:wooow So the person that you assume created the universe didn't know bats were not birds Wooow Some large brain you've got there |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by felixomor: 9:29pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Gbam. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by jonbellion(m): 10:11pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:ummm okay but God sure was showing his immanence in different forms. Not to mention deism arose and came to its most prominent during the philosophical change of the Enlightenment. As scientific knowledge increased, a climate of greater religious freedom developed in Europe and inconsistencies in the Bible were more freely discussed. So there were thiests before Diests. You can check out Thomas paines the age of reason. At least Diests are reasonable and sincere enough to observe inconsistencies in religious texts rather than engage in endless tiring apologetics that we get from monotheists. Diests tend to see God as an abstract logical principle rather than an anthropomorphic being with wants. And both Diests and athiests both hold the Bible and other religious works to be written mostly as human political works instead of being the holy word of any god.In fact, the only real difference lies in their explanation for the origins of time and space which they attribute to a non interfering deity. Atheism simply takes one step further than deists (note most athiests don't do this) by denying existence of any God atall. Which I think is wrong because you have to be omimiscient to be sure Not to mention the diest God is impossible to prove It is viewed as a watchmaker who created the watch and left it to run. Ooh and btw modern science is now describing a universe that is more random and unpredictable than deism might have suspected.But the monotheistic God is one that involves him or herself in the world, engages with the prayerful, even asking people to fear and adore him please people have better things to do than kiss ass Look basically according to monotheistic christian beliefs both Diests and athiests are going to hell so the Diests acknowledgment of a supreme entity is extremely unnecessary |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:28pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
jonbellion: Atheism never took anything further . Atheists ignorantly rejected the existence of God . Not to mention the diest God is impossible to prove For the umpteenth time , deists see Reason , Science and Nature as evidence for God . The existence of these three is their proof , our proof. How is this difficult to understand btw modern science is now describing a universe that is more random and unpredictable than deism might have suspected. This "random and unpredictable" descriptions of the universe are so rebarbative . World Renowned Physicist Michio Kaku at least admits that intelligence exists in the universe : "I have concluded that we are in a world made by rules created by an intelligence", he said. "Believe me, everything that we call chance today won't make sense anymore. To me it is clear that we exists in a plan which is governed by rules that were created, shaped by a universal intelligence and not by chance." 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by promise10: 11:03pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
jonbellion:will you sharaaap?! be it Abrahamic God or not, that must be God which still make more sense to atheism |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by promise10: 11:06pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:atheism is soooo illogical, but the way they hide behind reason is so sickening. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by jonbellion(m): 11:10pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
promise10:I've always said I was agnostic but apparently your head leaks information. I believe I've told you this before but you people labeled me under the athiest camp I've always said its illogical for someone to explicitly say there is no God but I will not use an irrefutable methodology like religion Capice? |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by promise10: 11:19pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
jonbellion:WTF is this, so dumb. I don't even know where to start. |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by jonbellion(m): 11:22pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
promise10:I don't really have time to engage in arguments with you You are one of the least intellegent thiests on this forum I'd prefer people like damogul and kingebukasblog Now stay off my mentions if you can't comprehend what I wrote I've always said I'm agnostic Now run along and find your mate 1 Like |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by promise10: 11:22pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
Brown47:yet, you are definitely not sure how the God thing came into humanity. can you? but stay away from sounding dumber... |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by damogul: 11:34pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
jonbellion: i am sure mere mentioning my moniker gives you goose pimples. Some of us are resting our bodies and minds in readiness for the big expose tomorrow. So quit mentioning me if you would. Peace out! |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by promise10: 11:34pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
jonbellion:see this small kid. engage in arguments with me? if I wipe you eh, you run comot from this forum . I still wonder why Seun has not added an age limit to this forum. keep calm and stop hiding. most of you guys are just atheists but when hit, you resort to agnostic. I still wonder why. 1 Like |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by promise10: 11:36pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
damogul:lol, I trust you guys! |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by promise10: 11:37pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
jonbellion:OK noted. better stick to this. |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by promise10: 11:40pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:thanks a lot. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by jonbellion(m): 11:45pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
damogul:huh Wow. Because I complimented you huh You berra go and sleep Goose pimples Comedy 1 Like |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by jonbellion(m): 11:47pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
promise10:I've always said I was agnostic You guys wrongly put me in the athiest club I dint believe in religious Gods that's the thing we all have in common but I have NEVER said no gods exist. And by the way you act like a kid A prepubescent teenager to be precise You rant and insult unnecessarily when they don't share your views. So I don't really take you seriously 1 Like |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by jonbellion(m): 11:51pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:science is an irrefutable methodology Religion is not That's were they differ Well michio kaku may be right. Though he hasn't done original research since the 1990s....... |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by ever811(m): 12:19am On Nov 25, 2016 |
akintom:OK..OK...this is just one reason why I know I did not got here by accident but I was perfectly created by an intelligent been.. every part of my body is created to perform specific function..eyes to see,ears to hear,tongue to taste food and control my speach,teeth to masticate food,hands to handle, legs to work,etc...you can agree with me that this kind of perfect arrangements can not be done by accident without making a single mistake.. if you disagree with me then kindly point out to me which part of the body that is a mistake without any function to perform.. and how male and female where created whit there respective organs for reproductive purpose..thank you |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by ever811(m): 12:30am On Nov 25, 2016 |
jonbellion:so...if him who created bats decide to call it bed, how does your ignorance affects his reasons?.. |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by jonbellion(m): 12:37am On Nov 25, 2016 |
ever811:*sigh* nvm I'm not an atheist by the way I'm agnostic But I agree with athiests that religion is man made |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by ever811(m): 12:46am On Nov 25, 2016 |
jonbellion:is that an answer or you wantted to type something..? |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by dalaman: 1:16am On Nov 25, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Deist and theist do NOT share the same beliefs about God or God's. Theist can be monotheist or polytheist with very different beliefs about the Gods. Some deist are pantheist while others believe God is just some force that created and left, some claim that the force could evendors be dead. How does that come close to the nonsense you are trying to say. It's like claiming that the Indian Gods have somethibg in common with a very monotheistic God like Allah. It doesn't make any sense at all. |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by hopefulLandlord: 1:58am On Nov 25, 2016 |
damogul: this post of yours is unnecessary he mentioned you in a respectful manner said he prefers talking to you 1 Like |
Re: Atheist...this No Coincidence Pls... by jonbellion(m): 6:48am On Nov 25, 2016 |
ever811:my ignorance Or his? 1 Like |
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