foyeks2001:


What are you not understanding?
Discard the nonsense u wrote about Christ.... If you want to know about Jesus, kindly read that chapter again and again...
Jesus was God's first creation.... He was with God B4 everything was made

He was not

mustymatic:

My friend you are quoting the bible out of context, Jesus didn't claim equality

why not quote it in context lets hear from you

Auki:


Receive Sense. Read what you wrote twice.

Jesus was God's first creation. You means Jesus was CREATED by God. God is the creator, Jesus is God's creation.

He was with God B4 everything was made.

I was with Seun B4 he started Nairaland. Am I Seun

Is Seun ur father? Besides I never said Jesus was The Almighty God.

Colossians 1:15-20 New International Version (NIV)
The Supremacy of the Son of God
15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.
17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. 19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

mustymatic:

He was not

Kindly read this bro
Colossians 1:15-20 New International Version (NIV)
The Supremacy of the Son of God
15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.
17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

Haroun13:


You used the words; "I hear". Islam is not based on hearsay, but on the Qur'an and sunnah. So, why don't you go through the Qur'an and Authentic hadith and show me where it says that "Allah lies".

Also, you misunderstand the meaning of the word "Allah". Allah means "the one who deserves to be worshipped".
The Arabic word for god is ilah, which can be manipulated to feminine (goddess) or plural (gods), as in ilaha and ilahi.
But, the word "Allah" is unique, can't be made plural or feminine.
So, if you respect God, you'll respect the name "Allah".

Islam is not based on hear say you said?

Didn't Jibril hear from allah and told Muhammed who told the many voices we hear in tje koran? Shd i quote some koranic verses for you to see?

All Muslims Are Going To Hell


Surah 19:71-72

Pickthall translation
There is not one of you but shall approach it. That is a fixed ordinance of thy Lord. Then We shall rescue those who kept from evil, and leave the evil-doers crouching there.

Shakir Translation
And there is not one of you but shall come to it; this is an unavoidable decree of your Lord. And We will deliver those who guarded (against evil), and We will leave the unjust therein on their knees.

note the bolded.
1. Allah says all muslims will go to hell. It is a fixed decree by Allah.
2. Rescue. Ok nah Allah did'nt say that, even if muslims go there they won't be burnt. come on use your sense. Why rescue someone if the person is not in any form of threat.

You guys should leave Christians alone and focus more on the teachings of your prophet. there are so many claims by either Muhammed or Allah that doesn't make sense at all.

butterflylion:

Islam is not based on hear say you said?

Didn't Jibril hear from allah and told Muhammed who told the many voices we hear in tje koran? Shd i quote some koranic verses for you to see?

I wonder what makes you misunderstand me by such a wide margin. You quoted me halfway. Why don't you read what I said in full and get your answer.

mustymatic:

He was not

Lets try to avoid complicated, high sounding theoretical arguments about Jesus (Pboh).

We all know that the demonstrated personal benefits of any religion is far greater than theoretical competition, because people come to God for help, He promised. People must not be expected to come to a holy place for fancy speeches about God. The true God is far more able than just empty motivational speeches.

Lets use real life examples;

Example 1 : Take your born blind child now 18yrs old to a Mosque and ask God to heal your child.

Example 2 : Take your born deaf child now 25yrs old to the best hospitals and ask them to heal your child.

Example 3: Take your child with a worse medical problem than the two above, to the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria and ask God to heal your child.

By keeping things simple and straight, we avoid the scam of theoretical war fought only for the benefit of Fake clergy that want to maintain their positions under the false disguise of holiness. They are fearful of losing their positions of status among their members, while at the same time they encourage the rejection of the HEALER whole many suffer before their very eyes.

After you have had the courage to experiment with the sound logical test above, come and share your experience.
Do not be afraid to die after you have found this highest truth that was staring at you in the Koran all this time.

yemimajid:
Make sense. God sacrifice himself to himself to appease himself and therefore save humanity from himself. Make sense

Lets try to avoid complicated, high sounding theoretical arguments about Jesus (Pboh).

We all know that the demonstrated personal benefits of any religion is far greater than theoretical competition, because people come to God for help, He promised. People must not be expected to come to a holy place for fancy speeches about God. The true God is far more able than just empty motivational speeches.

Lets use real life examples;

Example 1 : Take your born blind child now 18yrs old to a Mosque and ask God to heal your child.

Example 2 : Take your born deaf child now 25yrs old to the best hospitals and ask them to heal your child.

Example 3: Take your child with a worse medical problem than the two above, to the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria and ask God to heal your child.

Islam is well know for its miracle powers of Rhatiep, the slicing and piercing of the body with sharp swords while praising Allah.
But no practical help is offered to demonstrate that Allah loves to heal etc, what benefit is there to society when miracles of vicious stabbing and cutting is a sign of Allah;s love for His people ?

By keeping things simple and straight, we avoid the scam of theoretical war fought only for the benefit of Fake clergy that want to maintain their positions under the false disguise of holiness. They are fearful of losing their positions of status among their members, while at the same time they encourage the rejection of the HEALER whole many suffer before their very eyes.

After you have had the courage to experiment with the sound logical test above, come and share your experience.
Do not be afraid to die after you have found this highest truth that was staring at you in the Koran all this time.