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Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by soldierdollar(m): 4:23pm On Dec 13, 2016
"Why does the Federal government want MMM banned? A scheme Nigerians are using to help themselves? The national assembly are just too wicked! They are busy "chopping" our national cake but will not allow this God-sent scheme to see the light of the day. God Pass them" ... and a thousand and one more quotations showing how desperate and ignorant Nigerians could be about ponzi schemes.
It is no surprise as to how passionate Nigerians could be about get-rich-quick schemes considering the fact that the current recession is really biting hard. In fact the level of passion exhibited by Nigerians about this scheme has forced many participants to write open letters to Federal authorities warning them to desist from any attempt to be a log in the wheel of their "progress' . Some have become irrevocably too sure about the sustainability of the pyramid schemes, especially, MMM. I am not here to question the sustainability or otherwise of MMM scheme neither am I trying to pacify you to leave the scheme; I am here to tell you that MMM has not and will never improve the generality of life in Nigeria with the following facts.

(1) MMM has no central account. This well known fact should be a source of worry about the owners' source of income and the sustainability of the scheme. MMM does not not have direct access to your money and thus, does not invest it in order to grow it. Why is MMM being selfless and 'patriotic' in ensuring the smooth running of the scheme? How the heck does it gain from the scheme? Below is the answer to the puzzle.

(2) It may shock you to know that just like you and millions of other participants, nothing prevents MMM from "providing help" and "getting help" from a scheme they created.As the first investor in its own scheme, imagine the millions and chains of referrals in their 'downlines' and thousands of guiders that constitute its team. I may be wrong in the figures , but the number will be quite humongous. Is the amount of money MMM makes enough to pay millions of their participants 30-40 % returns on their investments and 10% to the referrer? Hell No! Then how the heck are they able to keep to their promise of settling investors?

(3) Liken MMM to a large mansion where you have to pay the occupants some money before you are allowed entry into the house. Once you are allowed into the mansion, you have to wait for another stranger who has to pay you 30% + 100% of your money before he could be allowed to live with you. Most times one stranger may not be able to foot the bill. He is merged with one or more strangers to pay you. In other words, the sustainability and longevity of the scheme will rely on the number of new tenants and the amount the new tenants are bringing to the table ( as well as the willingness of old tenants to renew their rent). Will this huge Mansion one day collapse? Or more likely, will this huge mansion ,one day be deserted? Definitely! How? Read below.

(4) Who pays the old tenants? New tenants or old tenants who are willing to renew their rent pay the old tenants. Literally, if you provide help by paying a tenant, the same help will be reciprocated to you with 30 to 40% bonus for being a good kid.Will there be a situation where I will provide help and not receive? Yes.. in the event that new tenants stop coming. But what can really discourage new members from coming?

(a) When everybody have become tenants. In the very near and imminent future, this will be the case.

(b) When the mansion( scheme) has become old such that new tenants decide to look for other houses (schemes) with better offers ( MMM united, MMM japan MMM Illorin) leaving old members stranded in an a state of panic.

(c) when old tenants refuse to renew their rents and decide to rent a house( scheme) elsewhere

(d) when the money new tenants pay as rent is smaller than what the old members are waiting to be paid- Old members paid millions of Naira but new tenants are bringing peanuts because of the reason below.

(e) when there is fear and uncertainty. "Will they ever unfreeze mavrodi accounts after a month? is this an end time sign?" This will of course decrease "investors confidence" and will either make new tenants to stop coming, reduce how much that is being invested or make old tenants not to renew their rents.

(f) When old members, from their profit start building their own mansions in form of houses, cars , business- thus cutting the chances of reinvesting in the scheme which will invariably reduce the amount of money in circulation.
What will be the fate of old tenants waiting to be provided help? Your guess is as good as mine. Will this result to the crash of the scheme? Yes. How soon? I do not know. Why do I think MMM is not a helping scheme? Read below.

(5) As you have now known or previously knew, MMM will one day crash but the date, hour, minute, second is uncertain. What if it crashes? Will the totality of Nigerians be happy? A big No . Why? Let me make a simple illustration. Let's say at the point A,B,C,D paid to E,F,G,H , the system crashes. This will create equal amount of Joy and sorrow. In other words, we may even have more mourners than "merriers" in most cases where many people are merged to pay few persons grin

What have I achieved by writing this epistle?

a) I have established that MMM and similar schemes are not cast with steel. They will one day crash.

b) I have succeeded in establishing that MMM does not improve the generality of the population. Where you rob peter to pay Paul and create equal helpers and stranded 'beggars' does not imply help.

c)I have succeed in reducing your passion for ponzi schemes which is typical of productive nations. Let us be more creative, innovative and productive. MMM has really lead to brain drain in our agile youths.

Is it biblically, Quaranically, morally right to rob peter to pay Paul? Share your thoughts.


I invite Lalasticlala, mynd44 , Seun , Ishilov

- Soldierdollar-

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Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by Seun(m): 4:33pm On Dec 13, 2016
Thanks for taking the time to write this out for us.

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Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by lonelydora: 4:38pm On Dec 13, 2016
Biko, you guys should stop creating threads on this MMM, let's finish this our grieve. I just enter this MMM last week Friday after being adamant for 4 months

30%,10% referral bonus, $50 I no want again ooooo. All I'm asking for is my capital.



Dangote should just borrow us some part of his heart......He lost $4.6b and still breathing fine. Just ordinary MMM freezing! People dey shout.

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Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by seXytOhbAd(m): 4:38pm On Dec 13, 2016
....... It is over....

Is MMM really a scam?

Like for yes OR share false?

People often say that MMM "helps" people, and there is no central account. Okay. But do you really need a central account to scam people?
Here is how MMM makes its money.

They create a database of accounts (Names, contact details, bank accounts) they cycle through for payment. Now these accounts are not regulated by any external individual . They are regulated only by the administrators of the scheme. So if after paying out for the first six months to nine months to generate "goodwill" and trust, they decide to slowly start keying in new account details of fronts operated by them, it won't be noticed. Remember, schemes like these depend on "new intakes" to cover up irregularities. It makes sense that they used Christmas time rush and also extra bonuses to milk the sheep. Genius scheme if you ask me.

So, do you think MMM is a scam? Like for yes, share for no

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Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by Moreoffaith(m): 4:38pm On Dec 13, 2016
MMM again abeg we no go see any news apart from MMM?

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Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by 9jayes: 4:38pm On Dec 13, 2016
We bloggers will begin write epistles on this mmm issue now. eg

10 things to knw about mmm.
Why mmm crash
hw to move on frm mmm palava etc

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Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by lielbree: 4:38pm On Dec 13, 2016
Abeg who do mmm United? What's happening with them? cry

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Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by ngmgeek(m): 4:38pm On Dec 13, 2016
Thanks for writing this. Hope many will read this.

Reposted here for my readers:
http://www.naijasquare.com/threads/why-i-think-mmm-is-not-a-helping-scheme-nairalander.1213/
Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by emmabest2000(m): 4:38pm On Dec 13, 2016
M money
M may
M miss

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Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by knightsTempler: 4:38pm On Dec 13, 2016
I was drinking Hollandia yoghurt when someone called me to say that MMM has been frozen. Oboy, the Hollandia started testing like Alomo...

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Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by 9jayes: 4:39pm On Dec 13, 2016
Seun:
Thanks for taking the time to write this out for us.
Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by BrutalJab: 4:39pm On Dec 13, 2016
Op, it seems you have no job abi?

If you don't have any idea bout how MMM operates, just keep kwayet.


Seun, keep pushing for traffics, you seriously need the money for Xmas tho grin

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Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by asumo12: 4:39pm On Dec 13, 2016
soldierdollar:
"Why does the Federal government want MMM banned? A scheme Nigerians are using to help themselves? The national assembly are just too wicked! They are busy "chopping" our national cake but will not allow this God-sent scheme to see the light of the day. God Pass them" ... and a thousand and one more quotations showing how desperate and ignorant Nigerians could be about ponzi schemes.
It is no surprise as to how passionate Nigerians could be about get-rich-quick schemes considering the fact that the current recession is really biting hard. In fact the level of passion exhibited by Nigerians about this scheme has forced many participants to write open letters to Federal authorities warning them to desist from any attempt to be a log in the wheel of their "progress' . Some have become irrevocably too sure about the sustainability of the pyramid schemes, especially, MMM. I am not here to question the sustainability or otherwise of MMM scheme neither am I trying to pacify you to leave the scheme; I am here to tell you that MMM has not and will never improve the generality of life in Nigeria with the following facts.

(1) MMM has no central account. This well known fact should be a source of worry about the owners' source of income and the sustainability of the scheme. MMM does not not have direct access to your money and thus, does not invest it in order to grow it. Why is MMM being selfless and 'patriotic' in ensuring the smooth running of the scheme? How the heck does it gain from the scheme? Below is the answer to the puzzle.

(2) It may shock you to know that just like you and millions of other participants, nothing prevents MMM from "providing help" and "getting help" from a scheme they created.As the first investor in its own scheme, imagine the millions and chains of referrals in their 'downlines' and thousands of guiders that constitute its team. I may be wrong in the figures , but the number will be quite humongous. Is the amount of money MMM makes enough to pay millions of their participants 30-40 % returns on their investments and 10% to the referrer? Hell No! Then how the heck are they able to keep to their promise of settling investors?

(3) Liken MMM to a large mansion where you have to pay the occupants some money before you are allowed entry into the house. Once you are allowed into the mansion, you have to wait for another stranger who has to pay you 30% + 100% of your money before he could be allowed to live with you. Most times one stranger may not be able to foot the bill. He is merged with one or more strangers to pay you. In other words, the sustainability and longevity of the scheme will rely on the number of new tenants and the amount the new tenants are bringing to the table ( as well as the willingness of old tenants to renew their rent). Will this huge Mansion one day collapse? Or more likely, will this huge mansion ,one day be deserted? Definitely! How? Read below.

(4) Who pays the old tenants? New tenants or old tenants who are willing to renew their rent pay the old tenants. Literally, if you provide help by paying a tenant, the same help will be reciprocated to you with 30 to 40% bonus for being a good kid.Will there be a situation where I will provide help and not receive? Yes.. in the event that new tenants stop coming. But what can really discourage new members from coming?
(a) When everybody have become tenants. In the very near and imminent future, this will be the case.
(b) When the mansion( scheme) has become old such that new tenants decide to look for other houses (schemes) with better offers ( MMM united, MMM japan MMM Illorin) leaving old members stranded in an a state of panic.
(c) when old tenants refuse to renew their rents and decide to rent a house( scheme) elsewhere
(d) when the money new tenants pay as rent is smaller than what the old members are waiting to be paid- Old members paid millions of Naira but new tenants are bringing peanuts because of the reason below.
(e) when there is fear and uncertainty. "Will they ever unfreeze mavrodi accounts after a month? is this an end time sign?" This will of course decrease "investors confidence" and will either make new tenants to stop coming, reduce how much that is being invested or make old tenants not to renew their rents.
(f) When old members, from their profit start building their own mansions in form of houses, cars , business- thus cutting the chances of reinvesting in the scheme which will invariably reduce the amount of money in circulation.
What will be the fate of old tenants waiting to be provided help? Your guess is as good as mine. Will this result to the crash of the scheme? Yes. How soon? I do not know. Why do I think MMM is not a helping scheme? Read below.
(5) As you have now known or previously knew, MMM will one day crash but the date, hour, minute, second is uncertain. What if it crashes? Will the totality of Nigerians be happy? A big No . Why? Let me make a simple illustration. Let's say at the point A,B,C,D paid to E,F,G,H , the system crashes. This will create equal amount of Joy and sorrow. In other words, we may even have more mourners than "merriers" in most cases where many people are merged to pay few persons grin

What have I achieved by writing this epistle?

a) I have established that MMM and similar schemes are not cast with steel. They will one day crash.
b) I have succeeded in establishing that MMM does not improve the generality of the population. Where you rob peter to pay Paul and create equal helpers and stranded 'beggers' does not imply help.
c)I have succeed in reducing your passion for ponzi schemes which is typical of productive nations. Let us be more creative, innovative and productive. MMM has really lead to brain drain in our agile youths.

Is it biblically, Quaranically, morally right to rob peter to pay Paul? Share your thoughts.


I invite Lalasticlala, mynd44 , Seun , Ishilov

- Soldierdollar-


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Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by ItsawrapOutfit: 4:39pm On Dec 13, 2016
Wanku wangbe wandaran WWW grin

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Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by Nobody: 4:39pm On Dec 13, 2016
grin



Owner of MMM be balling like,

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Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by MrMoney007: 4:39pm On Dec 13, 2016
Bad belle
Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by yorex2011: 4:40pm On Dec 13, 2016
All you wrote up there too long..Simpler reasons below

1. Anybody doing MMM obviously has money to spare, the real people who need help are there languishing.

2. Friends hardly borrow friends money now cos they'll rather invest it in MMM. Now if you can't genuinely help a friend because of MMM, then is it the person you are paying into his account that probably has millions worth of mavro that you are helping?

3. People with money won't even help assist or fund startups, of course why would they invest in the humble startup of a fellow nigerian who is struggling to make a name for himself when they can put the money in MMM and get 30% monthly.

4. There are a lot of brilliant minds who need people to fund their Ideas, but instead Nigerians would prefer MMM. Have you ever wondered why there are no crowdsourcing companies in Nigeria.

5. Truth is This MMM is not helping anything, they should just rename it to Provide money and receive money dazall. If the stuffs fold up now, People will be crying up and down , but one shouldnt be cryiong when he "helps" someone out of the magnanimity of his heart now should he?

I don't have any issue with anybody o. but that providing "help" is kinda misleading, another name wouldve been better

if the scheme collapses, what will you tell the person who calls you saying that he was the one who gave you help last week and that you should help him, even if is just 10 percent of what he paid you, saying it was all the money he had or maybe one he cudnt afford to lose.

You'll prolly say wrong number and warn him not to call you again. Then he'll drop his phone and from then on anything cam happen, depending on how weak his heart is

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Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by pawesome(m): 4:40pm On Dec 13, 2016
MMM dis n dt.,itaff do na.mk we hear word
Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by Nobody: 4:40pm On Dec 13, 2016
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Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by Liftedhands(f): 4:40pm On Dec 13, 2016
sad
Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by JingoOAU(m): 4:40pm On Dec 13, 2016
I think greed and Nigerians are inter related

Spare money is different from your pension or life savings

If I lose my money on MMM, I wouldn't even blink because I only put 20k into it and I've been able to make over a 100k out of it...

Greed

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Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by Nobody: 4:41pm On Dec 13, 2016
grin grin grin
Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by tosyne2much(m): 4:41pm On Dec 13, 2016
Hmmm
Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by hamzia(m): 4:41pm On Dec 13, 2016
[sup][/sup] cry cry
Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by viktor01(m): 4:41pm On Dec 13, 2016
MMM.

They have preached all the preaching in the world to me to join MMM but my heart didn't take it so i relaxed.

If I exhibit the kind of callous mind I exhibited towards joining MMM in sinning, Mehn...... I would have been a saint. undecided undecided

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Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by haywire07(m): 4:41pm On Dec 13, 2016
Is it ur money?

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Re: Why I Think MMM Is Not A "Helping" Scheme by ddaammyy(f): 4:41pm On Dec 13, 2016
Hmmmmmm

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