Let the Christians eat and drink to the pagan Astrological traditions they think started with them. The stars and Sun have always been celebrated. The Christians are the latest worshippers, do I say gateman/ gatewomen of the beautiful tradition. Change the Sun to Jesus and the celebration will continue

Merry Christmas Christians! You lots have been fooled!

asuustrike2009:
This has being said before but it would be hypocritical for anyone to condemn Christmas yet they celebrate birthdays, marriage anniversary, independence days e.t.c

you can celebrate it but don't hold that jesus was born in dec 25when you know otherwise

Am not surprised. Their are set of people who calls themselves "Christian" and yet condem the birth of Jesus which his primary purpose is to save us from the second death(Now this same set of Christian doesn't believe in these death(Hell Fire). Even our brothers, the Muslim believe their is a second death.

So it doesnt surprise me when they don't celebrate Christmas. They are just same gullible pagan, with over sized suite and a stone age bag, dragging their feet around in the sand claiming to be evangelizing, and countering anything we so Christian believes in.

They're not Christian to me. They're just Jw or whatever they are.

Santa claus is a secret cult that lure children for sacrifice by giving them gift, santa claus father was a blood su ker demon that feed on human and drink their blood, even dracule of romania many of them. White ppl are demon from history till date

[quote author=Ellegacy post=52242573]Am not surprised. Their are set of people who calls themselves "Christian" and yet condem the birth of Jesus which his primary purpose is to save us from the second death(Now this same set of Christian doesn't believe in these death(Hell Fire). Even our brothers, the Muslim believe their is a second death.

So it doesnt surprise me when they don't celebrate Christmas. They are just same gullible pagan, with over sized suite and a stone age bag, dragging their feet around in the sand claiming to be evangelizing, and countering anything we so Christian believes in.

They're not Christian to me. They're just Jw or whatever they are.[/quote

Wake up son of Man, there's a street church besides my window that won't allow me to sleep in peace, today their pastor is telling them that Christmas is a false teaching, that Dec 25 has nothing to do with Christ. Sooner or later you will understand.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Christmas-Saturnalia.html

[size=16pt]Is Christmas related to Saturnalia?[/size]


Question: "Is Christmas related to Saturnalia?"

Answer: Christmas, the day on which Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, is in fact connected to the pagan festival known as Saturnalia—not, however, for the reasons some skeptics assume. Christianity has always been aware that December 25 is almost certainly not the actual date of Jesus’ birth. The early church did not celebrate December 25 as a day of any significance, and it wasn’t connected to the birth of Jesus until sometime during the reign of Constantine, several hundred years later.

Saturnalia was a week-long Roman festival honoring the god Saturn; since it started on December 17, it fell within what we now call the Christmas season. Interestingly, historical accounts differ about whether Saturnalia celebrations were examples of debauchery or charity. Some accounts mention the rich paying rent for the poor, masters and slaves exchanging clothes, and so forth on Saturnalia. Yet, for most of history, debauchery seems to dominate celebrations of the holiday; in fact, the wordSaturnalia became synonymous with immorality and carousing.

To modern eyes some Saturnalia customs come across as hedonistic perversions of Christmas traditions. For instance, singing from house to house naked, feasting excessively, eating baked goods shaped like people, and exchanging bawdy gifts. In reality, there’s good historical evidence suggesting that these events were reformed, absorbed, and transformed over time as a result of Christmas’ popularity overtaking that of Saturnalia.

The early motive for celebrating Jesus’ birth on December 25 was the same that inspires modern churches to hold “Fall Festivals” or “Bible Costume Parties” on October 31. That is, to provide a spiritually positive alternative to what they perceive as a pagan celebration. Another example is the modern holiday Kwanzaa, a celebration that mirrors the elements and timing of other holidays, with the intention of providing an alternative with a particular cultural focus. Over time, as the Roman Empire Christianized, customs associated with Saturnalia were “cleaned up” and absorbed into the celebration of Christmas.

The association between Christmas and Saturnalia is further supported by the existence of another Roman holiday, Sol Invictus, gradually absorbed by Christmas. Sol Invictus (“Invincible Sun”) celebrated, on December 25, the renewing of the Sun King and was linked to the winter solstice. Constantine, the first Christian emperor, was raised in this cult of the Unconquered Sun God, and he had a hand in turning Roman culture toward Christ and away from paganism. The first reliable historical evidence of Christmas being observed on December 25 dates from his reign.

So, Christians readily and comfortably acknowledge that the date, traditions, and long-term history of Christmas are connected to the pagan holidays of Saturnalia and Sol Invictus. Yet, like a family celebrating a Bible Costume Party onOctober 31, it’s the people celebrating who decide what the celebration means. Christians of centuries past chose December 25 as the day to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, the true “Unconquered King.” The use of this date continues today. Christmas and Saturnalia may be historical neighbors with indirect connections, but they are not the same holiday, and they never were.

What a pity! There is nothing you JWs can do to prevent us from celebrating the birth of our saviour. Do much more, you will always fail.



If you like, go and hug a transformer.

The reason for this piece is never to tell you to stop chrixmas but have the right idea about it. Almost every day one selects has a pagan history to it. But if we choose to celebrate it for good reasons fine. But don't say christ was born on dec 25 when he wasn't. We can say we are remembering christ life. Can I say you are born on dec 25 and go on to celebrate it when actually you know you were born in march or any other month. So if I use to celebrate my birthday today while I was born jan I would make it clear that it is just my wish for certain reasons but that I wasn't born in dec. It is only disheartening that christians are so emotional n gullible when these things are mentioned.

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Ok

FagsamPHP:
Christmas is a jumble of ancient pagan customs invented by men, and a holiday found nowhere in d Bible, does God honor or accept such worship
Nowhere in the bible do we find any hint of a Christmas celebration or anything remotely like. If Christmas is an important celebration to honor, why is it nowhere mentioned in the Bible?? The Christmas holiday is largely a recycled pagan celebration
Nowhere in the Bible is there any record of anyone observing Christmas or any hint that God the Father or Jesus Christ expects us to do so..
The truth is that Christ never was in Christmas and it is not Jesus, but Satan who is the reason for the season.....

hey we are not celebrating the birth of jesus...but this day was set aside to celebrate the saviour..and the salvation given to humanity.

Ellegacy:
Am not surprised. Their are set of people who calls themselves "Christian" and yet condem the birth of Jesus which his primary purpose is to save us from the second death(Now this same set of Christian doesn't believe in these death(Hell Fire). Even our brothers, the Muslim believe their is a second death.

So it doesnt surprise me when they don't celebrate Christmas. They are just same gullible pagan, with over sized suite and a stone age bag, dragging their feet around in the sand claiming to be evangelizing, and countering anything we so Christian believes in.

They're not Christian to me. They're just Jw or whatever they are.

lolzzz...see fatalityvmy brother leave dem make dem die with bad belle no be christmas day cox hunger 4 the land....as if na christians coz d recession

Sorry O.P don't have time to read this kinda lengthy epistle

vickeybrown92:
hey we are not celebrating the birth of jesus...but this day was set aside to celebrate the saviour..and the salvation given to humanity.

why December 25? Why not another date?

ifenes:
Let the Christians eat and drink to the pagan Astrological traditions they think started with them. The stars and Sun have always been celebrated. The Christians are the latest worshippers, do I say gateman/ gatewomen of the beautiful tradition. Change the Sun to Jesus and the celebration will continue

Merry Christmas Christians! You lots have been fooled!

do i sense sarcasm?

Yes, it may not be the date of birth but it is the day set aside by the church to celebrate the birth of Christ.
So what is the fuss about ?

Authentic2000:
Yes, it may not be the date of birth but it is the day set aside by the church to celebrate the birth of Christ.
So what is the fuss about ?

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Bros go and read the documentation of Dec 25. The origin, purpose and what was attached to the date. Its very simple

OP,You knows the origin of all these yet you dont know the origin of you problems in life

FagsamPHP:


why December 25? Why not another date?

..that is it...according to history they set out this day so it will cover up the sun god that was worshipped this day...because then in rome...many unbelievers who are on the verge of giving their life to christ...will not be persuaded of worshipping idol on that day but rather celebrate christ...so for centuries itz went on like that.

realGURU:
who does the statement below describe?
He walked on water, feed 5 thousand people with 5 loaves of bread but couldn't handle three nails on the cross

Are u a Christian? because this is blasphemy

Op Christmas is all about love peace and harmony just like Christ lived on earth. It doesn't have anything to do with theory or history, but I still Wonder why we have people who claim to know every thing like you, still Nigeria can't produce pencil.

realGURU:
who does the statement below describe?
He walked on water, feed 5 thousand people with 5 loaves of bread but couldn't handle three nails on the cross

I don't know what you practice, but be careful what you say sometimes because things sometimes are not what they seem to be. Your post reminds one of what one of the two thieves on the cross said to Jesus. I say it again be careful Sis.

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FagsamPHP:
Christmas is a jumble of ancient pagan customs invented by men, and a holiday found nowhere in d Bible, does God honor or accept such worship
Nowhere in the bible do we find any hint of a Christmas celebration or anything remotely like. If Christmas is an important celebration to honor, why is it nowhere mentioned in the Bible?? The Christmas holiday is largely a recycled pagan celebration
Nowhere in the Bible is there any record of anyone observing Christmas or any hint that God the Father or Jesus Christ expects us to do so..
The truth is that Christ never was in Christmas and it is not Jesus, but Satan who is the reason for the season.....

Good conclusion by those that have studied all chapters and verses of the Bible but what offence is committed in setting out December 25 to celebrate his birth? The Bible wrote about his birth at least.

Whatever, the origin, the history, the myths, the facts, the science.
we all generally agree that come december 25th the whole world celebrate, the birth of a man who change the world a we knew it, who brought redemption and salvation to man, through his sacrifice, reconciling mankind back to God and we only have to belief.

rottennaija:
Jw right? What's your point?

With al d letters involved in this write up U din still get his point....bro, yur case is surely different..

VictorRomanov:



That's not a JW website. This fact are there in history for everyone to read. It's just that only JWs choose to take it seriously.

not only jw. Deeper life too lol.

whether it's idol things or pagans I have right and so happy to wish him birthday because his coming is a great privilege for me to save my life from sin.does it not worth it?

emeijeh:
The Op is absolutely correct.
Christmas has never been a biblical feast.
It originated from the worship of the sun god

We are not disputing that Christ was born, but he was never born on December 25.
Quote me anywhere
PS.
I am a christian

Jesus is the Sun God that's also the reason you go to church on the SUN day Christianity is paganism....

veraiyke:
you can celebrate it but don't hold that jesus was born in dec 25when you know otherwise

We all know he wasn't born on that date that was why I posted this to silent some persons

emeijeh:
The Op is absolutely correct.
Christmas has never been a biblical feast.
It originated from the worship of the sun god

We are not disputing that Christ was born, but he was never born on December 25.
Quote me anywhere
PS.
I am a christian

if u adopt a child and the child's real birth date can't be accounted for, won't u allocate a date to him??