Research by Prof Ha Joon Chang points to the fact that poor countries are continually given bad advice by rich countries to keep them in porverty.
In My Opinion,
Firstly, we still have the UBUNTU spirit, so that, just as during the slave trade, we believe that others are really not out to hurt us and only want to admire our land, we still believe no one is out to hurt us. A clay pot and an Iron pot cannot play together; one will get hurt and we are the clay pot. Cambridge was created in 1231. These people know how to play draughts and chess, they have studied all the moves and continue to give scholarships to the best minds to come build better moves. Now, because there are no laws when countries interact, deceit and sabotage are really commonplace and continue to be used . Its sabotage by intentional bad advice. We are being forced to make poor decisions. We are made to sign horrible trade agreements and put money in the wrong policies all the while believing that this is an excellent way out of our issues. In my research Prof Ha Joon Chang seem to have said it best- most developed countries were initially advised against good polices and attempts were made to steer them towards other goals. The USA was ill-advised by Adam Smith not to concentrate on Industrialisation- they didnt listen -then the USA (via the UN) advised South Korea not to industrialise too- they also didnt listen-now it’s our turn, but Africa listens. Look at the UN goals and realise there is no goal towards rapid industrialisation- but that is the only proven path to progress. Take a Minute and look around you, most modern things come from four industries- metallurgical processing, petroleum processing, electricity, and cement -cars, plastic, houses, machines, drugs, fertilizer, even the colour of the cloth you wear and then the cloth itself. – these are the backbone of industrialisation and these industries never seem to grow in Africa (e.g Ajaokuta and the issue of modular refineries). We are not that stupid to not have figured this out. Note that these industries are very old and the technology probably isn’t proprietary anymore. Why then are all the Economic advisers blind to this? Have they been led to concentrate on the wrong things? Research seems to say yes they have. We still are receiving fish; we do not know how to fish. We need these industries running at 100 percent. but we dont seem to be able to- coincidental? I dont think we are that stupid. (further reading –Kicking away the ladder by Ha Joon Chan. NB. He has numerous excellent free lecture videos on youtube) (also see excellent video depicting this outlook in the music video ‘Na So (Show Me How To Fish)’ by Bukwild Da Ikwerrian ).

Prof Ha Joon Chang is the Reader of Cambridge University and In 2013 Prospect magazine ranked Chang as one of the top 20 World Thinkers.
He was the speaker at the 2016 Adebayo Adedeji lecture. (n.b Adebayo Adedeji founded NYSC and ECOWAS founder)


Prof Ha Joon Chang's Research report (note that he has wrotten an award winning book with the same title)
http://www.personal.ceu.hu/corliss/CDST_Course_Site/Readings_old_2012_files/Ha-Joon%20Chang%20-%20Kicking%20Away%20the%20Ladder-The%20%E2%80%9CReal%E2%80%9D%20History%20of%20Free%20Trade.pdf

Intro to Ha Joon chang's research( short video.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RODjR-sNl44

(Prof Ha Joon Chang at Adebayo Adedeji lecture 2016 (Adebayo Adedeji founded NYSC and ECOWAS founder)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNsK4RjaXz4

(Na So music video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXaNwZbFPE8



Please Share if it makes any sense to you. The more people that start thinking about getting Ajaokuta and the basic industries running, the harder it gets to keep these industries down.


Or just ask yourself from now on- how can we produce car without metal? how can we produce road without coaltar from refinery, how can we produce electricity without metal for the machines and the wires? how can we even make fertilizers without urea from refineries? do they not know?

The problem is that Africans are too lazy and will always depend on the western world. Europe developed through hardwork and dedication and not by waiting for aids and advice from far away countries that share no same interest and culture with them, as in the case in Africa.

Emekamex:
The problem is that Africans are too lazy and will always depend on the western world. Europe developed through hardwork and dedication and not by waiting for aids and advice from far away countries that share no same interest and culture with them, as in the case in Africa.

Unfortunately the facts say you are wrong Mr Emekamex. please look at statistics of Africans living outside Africa. you find that they outperform others easily because they are used to working hard.
its just like training to fight with a lion and then fighting a dog- you will just destroy the dog

and about the aids, maybe you should look at the Story of Sankara and his decision NOT to accept aid(and probably anybody that decides to kick at the free money). - its not usually an easy choice to refuse the gifts of a wicked strong person.
its not by choice that the trees bow to the wind- its a do or die affair.

shibiyu:

Look at the UN goals and realise there is no goal towards rapid industrialisation- but that is the only proven path to progress!!! Take a Minute and look around you, most modern things come from four industries- metallurgical processing, petroleum processing, electricity, and cement -cars, plastic, houses, machines, drugs, fertilizer, even the colour of the cloth you wear and then the cloth itself!! – these are the backbone of industrialisation and these industries never seem to grow in Africa (e.g Ajaokuta and the issue of modular refineries).

[b]Why then are all the Economic advisers blind to this?Have they been led to concentrate on the wrong things?/b]

Lol I made forum post showing stats on why industrialization is future. Alot of people Economic advisers, to politicians and common men don't see the obvious. Look at what african countries import most it's manufactured goods. Then the regulate themselves in primary sector giving low cost basic resources.

Look at the current obsession with return to agriculture.

https://www.nairaland.com/3496315/long-term-agriculture-not-way

@Blue3k

true,
Industialised Agriculture works,
subsistence agriculture does not.
the law of wealthy economics seem to be import raw, export finished.

however, if you make posts, link them to credible sources and people, e.g a Professor that is also the reader of Cambridge University that is also top 20 thinker in the world. it will help make people stop and think.

you want constructive argument, that gets people informed.

shibiyu:
@Blue3k

true,
Industialised Agriculture works,
subsistence agriculture does not.
the law of wealthy economics seem to be import raw, export finished.

however, if you make posts, link them to credible sources and people, e.g a Professor that is also the reader of Cambridge University that is also top 20 thinker in the world. it will help make people stop and think.

you want constructive argument, that gets people informed.

I linked trade statistics from Nigerian government and MIT data on trade statistics with historical trends. Most going back at least 3 decades.

Africans are not lazy. Africans don't like each other. No country can force you to follow and take an action you don't want. How many times have I seen where our students invent something and the idea is not supported by the govt? This world can never be equal. It's either we choose to be at the top or at the bottom, Africans have decided to be at the bottom..... We just took the lesser side of the coin. God will not come and save us without our deliberate efforts

Blue3k:


I linked trade statistics from Nigerian government and MIT data on trade statistics with historical trends. Most going back at least 3 decades.

yepp. true. immpressive

It's unfortunate that Ha Joon Chang is promoting this leftist claptrap, knowing all too well that there are many gullible and delusional Africans out there willing to eat up any conspiracy theory that will allow them to avoid blaming themselves for their own failures.

What has done more to block African economic progress, after the usual African evils of tribalism, religious strife and corruption, is a resistance to market-based solutions, in favor of statist economic policies that have frustrated private economic enterprise. A great deal of the blame for this lies with left-wing academics in the Western world, such as Ha Joon Chang himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K45lG2ZCYrs

The evil europeans are trying to sabotage africa's progress again - Jacob Zuma

Emjay1310:
Africans are not lazy. Africans don't like each other. No country can force you to follow and take an action you don't want. How many times have I seen where our students invent something and the idea is not supported by the govt? This world can never be equal. It's either we choose to be at the top or at the bottom, Africans have decided to be at the bottom..... We just took the lesser side of the coin. God will not come and save us without our deliberate efforts

Mr Emjay1310
I think Africans like each other. we keep maintaining our extended family culture despite current trends .
Actually Countries can make you take an action you dont want to or else they will come and destroy you. e.g. you cant build certain things no matter how much you want to
please read the research paper, watch this man's videos and if possible get books about this. there are books by various authors but they are not very renown personalities and have often been called conspiracies- this Man is a top Economist and he challenged the UN thats reason enough to listen to him at least.

omohayek:
It's unfortunate that Ha Joon Chang is promoting this leftist claptrap, knowing all too well that there are many gullible and delusional Africans out there willing to eat up any conspiracy theory that will allow them to avoid blaming themselves for their own failures.

What has done more to block African economic progress, after the usual African evils of tribalism, religious strife and corruption, is a resistance to market-based solutions, in favor of statist economic policies that have frustrated private economic enterprise. A great deal of the blame for this lies with left-wing academics in the Western world, such as Ha Joon Chang himself.

errr hez South Korean. and he is not left-wing. please do listen to him - South Korea had worse wars and is living near their brother North Korea- we have guns, North Korea has Nukes- also there is Russia, and Vietnam in their neighborhood and dont forget the Japanese. if na war, we never start.
please,as suggested, look at your house and around you in a commonsense way - a few industries make most of the things around you and yet all the African Economists have not realized these?
Ok, if you like NYSC or ECOWAS, listen to the lecture- atleast

Blue3k:


Lol I made forum post showing stats on why industrialization is future. Alot of people Economic advisers, to politicians and common men don't see the obvious. Look at what african countries import most it's manufactured goods. Then the regulate themselves in primary sector giving low cost basic resources.

Look at the current obsession with return to agriculture.

https://www.nairaland.com/3496315/long-term-agriculture-not-way

yes and when you look at these, you just think -no naaaa We are not this stupid, Something Else is going on. e be like somebody dey yahoo us

shibiyu:
Research by Prof Ha Joon Chang points to the fact that poor countries are continually given bad advice by rich countries to keep them in porverty.
In My Opinion,
Firstly, we still have the UBUNTU spirit, so that, just as during the slave trade, we believe that others are really not out to hurt us and only want to admire our land, we still believe no one is out to hurt us. A clay pot and an Iron pot cannot play together; one will get hurt and we are the clay pot. Cambridge was created in 1231. These people know how to play draughts and chess, they have studied all the moves and continue to give scholarships to the best minds to come build better moves. Now, because there are no laws when countries interact, deceit and sabotage are really commonplace and continue to be used (e.g Russia and recent US Elections?). Its sabotage by intentional bad advice. We are being forced to make poor decisions. We are made to sign horrible trade agreements and put money in the wrong policies all the while believing that this is an excellent way out of our issues. In my research Prof Ha Joon Chang seem to have said it best- most developed countries were initially advised against good polices and attempts were made to steer them towards other goals. The USA was ill-advised by Adam Smith not to concentrate on Industrialisation- they didnt listen -then the USA (via the UN) advised South Korea not to industrialise too- they also didnt listen-now it’s our turn, but Africa listens. Look at the UN goals and realise there is no goal towards rapid industrialisation- but that is the only proven path to progress. Take a Minute and look around you, most modern things come from four industries- metallurgical processing, petroleum processing, electricity, and cement -cars, plastic, houses, machines, drugs, fertilizer, even the colour of the cloth you wear and then the cloth itself. – these are the backbone of industrialisation and these industries never seem to grow in Africa (e.g Ajaokuta and the issue of modular refineries). We are not that stupid to not have figured this out. Note that these industries are very old and the technology probably isn’t proprietary anymore. Why then are all the Economic advisers blind to this? Have they been led to concentrate on the wrong things? Research seems to say yes they have. We still are receiving fish; we do not know how to fish. We need these industries running at 100 percent. but we dont seem to be able to- coincidental? I dont think we are that stupid. (further reading –Kicking away the ladder by Ha Joon Chan. NB. He has numerous excellent free lecture videos on youtube) (also see excellent video depicting this outlook in the music video ‘Na So (Show Me How To Fish)’ by Bukwild Da Ikwerrian ).

Prof Ha Joon Chang is the Reader of Cambridge University and In 2013 Prospect magazine ranked Chang as one of the top 20 World Thinkers.

Prof Ha Joon Chang's Research report (note that he has wrotten an award winning book with the same title)
http://www.personal.ceu.hu/corliss/CDST_Course_Site/Readings_old_2012_files/Ha-Joon%20Chang%20-%20Kicking%20Away%20the%20Ladder-The%20%E2%80%9CReal%E2%80%9D%20History%20of%20Free%20Trade.pdf

Intro to Ha Joon chang's research( short video.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RODjR-sNl44

(Prof Ha Joon Chang at Adebayo Adedeji lecture 2016 (Adebayo Adedeji founded NYSC and ECOWAS founder)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNsK4RjaXz4

(Na So music video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXaNwZbFPE8



Please Share if it makes any sense to you. The more people that start thinking about getting Ajaokuta and the basic industries running, the harder it gets to keep these industries down.


Or just ask yourself from now on- how can we produce car without metal? how can we produce road without coaltar from refinery, how can we produce electricity without metal for the machines and the wires? how can we even make fertilizers without urea from refineries? do they not know?

Africans are intellectually lazy. They tend to make hay out of mere propaganda. For the author to even mention "Russia and recent US Elections" in this piece goes to show how gullible Africans can become. The world is extremely competitive and groups of people such as Africans who tend to dwell on who likes them or lack thereof usually settle at tail end of the stick.

Dedetwo:


Africans are intellectually lazy. They tend make hay out of mere propaganda. For the author to even mention "Russia and recent US Elections" in this piece goes to show how gullible Africans can become. The world is extremely competitive and groups of people such as Africans who tend to dwell on who likes them or lack thereof usually settle at tail end of the stick.

yeah, i thought i shouldnt have put that there- lemmi get it out, it corrupts the thing abi?
did you check the lecture out?

Emekamex:
The problem is that Africans are too lazy and will always depend on the western world. Europe developed through hardwork and dedication and not by waiting for aids and advice from far away countries that share no same interest and culture with them, as in the case in Africa.

Bros, you could not be more correct. If disintegration will usher development in any give state in Africa, certain Africans will kick against such move since their colonial masters have advised them otherwise. In fact, most Africans do not think for themselves. These are bunch of clowns who will readily abound what ancestrally belongs to them and hunger for things from faraway land.

shibiyu:

yeah, i thought i shouldnt have put that there- lemmi get it out, it corrupts the thing abi?
did you check the lecture out?

What lecture? A crappy waste of time from a twisted fellow.

Dedetwo:


Africans are intellectually lazy. They tend make hay out of mere propaganda. For the author to even mention "Russia and recent US Elections" in this piece goes to show how gullible Africans can become. The world is extremely competitive and groups of people such as Africans who tend to dwell on who likes them or lack thereof usually settle at tail end of the stick.

hmmm. about being competitive, that is what the idea is actually about- the Government of these countries and the international bodies should concentrate on making African countries competitive. This involves fixing basics only- he is saying that african countries cannot compete if the basics are not there and we are continually being prevented from fixing the basics.
e.g should your child start working at 5 years old or should he go to school and get the basics?
same thing here- the UN should be focusing on helping these young nations get metal and electricity and petroleum processing right, not malaria. because aircondition chases mosquito (metal and electricity) and malaria drugs are made from the byproducts of these basics.

just give them the Basics and see if they will not shine is what he is saying- they dont need world bank water project, they need the metal industry to produce their own water pipes and produce their own machines to pump the water and produce their own electricity to power the machine.they need their own chemical industry to purify the water.

the by products of the basics are business to business transactions, jobs, health, reduced poverty, etc.

Dedetwo:


Bros, you could not be more correct. If disintegration will usher development in any give state in Africa, certain Africans will kick against such move since their colonial masters have advised them otherwise. In fact, most Africans do not think for themselves. These are bunch of clowns who will readily abound what ancestrally belongs to them and hunger for things from faraway land.

Ah you are right, and that is why we are here, to think-

do you think that these basic industries actually produce most of the things you have around you ? take a minuite and do look around please.
these industries are metallurgy, petrochemicals(basically refineries) , electricity and cement?

dont you find it strange that it should be obvious that we should then get these basics first?

Dedetwo:


What lecture? A crappy waste of time from a twisted fellow.

. yes that crappy one. he has alot other crappies on youtube too. its another point of view though ,from a world reknown thinker, and best selling author, who is a professor of Economics in one of the oldest universities in the World........ and most importantly a point of view that makes logical sense (how can you build car without iron? how can you grow good crops without fertilizer from refineries?), so,maybe when you have time to spare, do pour some into that.

and dont forget the nice music video from our very own? at least that one make sense abi? ...i want to catche fish oooooooo!!!!

shibiyu:


errr hez South Korean. and he is not left-wing. please do listen to him - South Korea had worse wars and is living near their brother North Korea- we have guns, North Korea has Nukes- also there is Russia, and Vietnam in their neighborhood and dont forget the Japanese. if na war, we never start.
please,as suggested, look at your house and around you in a commonsense way - a few industries make most of the things around you and yet all the African Economists have not realized these?
Ok, if you like NYSC or ECOWAS, listen to the lecture- atleast

What does his South Korean citizenship (which I already knew) have to do with anything? He's at Cambridge, which is a western university.

As for our lecture about South Korean history, I know it far better than you do, and I also know many South Koreans (and Japanese, and Russians for that matter), so when I say Ha Joon Chang is spouting leftist nonsense, I'm not doing so out of ignorance of either history or the man's economic theories. If you ever bother to read the man's books (e.g. his "23 Things They Don't Tell You About Capitalism" ) you'd see for yourself that the man is one of those "progressive" anti-capitalist types.

Finally, if you actually knew some economics, you'd know that appeals to "commonsense" have zero credibility in the subject. Is comparative advantage or marginal utility "common sense"? Is general equilibrium "common sense"?

The major problem holding Africans back isn't a shortage of foreign aid or goodwill from the rich world: in fact, the westerners would like nothing better than that our economies start growing, so that fewer of us will want to migrate to their countries! No, what holds Africa back is its mostly worthless leaders, who in turn get to the top because too many Africans care more about tribal supremacy and getting "their turn" to loot the public purse, rather than about effective government. When was the last time politicians anywhere in Africa have been challenged on how they plan to finance the grand promises they make during campaigning?

omohayek:

oh sure i dnt agree with alot of his stands - i particularly dnt pay attention to what people say, i look at history. He is a student of History that is where i prefer to stand, verifyable info from the past to show what has been, and hence show what you could do to get where someone has been- a map, or wisdom(other people's mistake)

now about Economics,
from your economic point of view, should the UN be chasing malaria and the rest of their goals or face the basics? they make conditions for these countries when they offer them aid dont they? why will the conditions not simply be- fix your basic industries so we dont have to give you money next year?

dont throw the baby out with the bath water.

and dont pull the conversation away from the fact that the UN's policies have historically done very little good.

did you actually listen to the lecture? did you actually research his claims? or do you have a thing against Cambridge?
are you seriously saying if we have ajaokuta running and refineries enough to provide all we need, and electricity, we will still be where we are? these industries are so basic that surely you cant argue about them. and surely the UN and other donor countries cannot have not seen these.
bros na. no dey carry english try cover up- if we dey make iron for ajaokuta, we sef fit make we own car, we sef fit make we own generator, we sef fit make we own refinery.
e too simple make dem never see am.


about that goodwill- abobi that one na big- big talk.
if you like me, gimmi net make i go fish,no gimmi fish. gimmi the moves make i produce manufactured products,
abi na lie say the more you manufacture the richer you are? Abobi, we no be teenager na.
make that one your condition for helping boiz-if i give you this money, no chop am, use am take start business(abi no be that person get you for mind?)
therz an Economic policy like that, but its not popular(policy to help with the aim of getting the money to produce more money and hence not needing to help again)

This is a very good post and I commend the OP.

I recently got a copy of the speakers book Bad Samaritan and after watching this video I will hasten my reading.

I disagree with the title. He does not say Africa is being sabotaged per se; he points out that the prescriptions given to underdeveloped countries are detrimental and this may or may not be malicious. Note that there are valid reasons for these prescriptions which the prof counters with ideas of his own.

I find it interesting that he does not prescribe waiting for good governance to emerge before taking action since this may take centuries; Nigerian intellectuals should note.

All considered, a great video

Africa is poorly managed. Ruled by sociopathic mediocres that hijacks power by dubious mean. When the blind are led by the blind,they will eventually fall into pit.

redsceptic:
This is a very good post and I commend the OP.

I recently got a copy of the speakers book Bad Samaritan and after watching this video I will hasten my reading.

I disagree with the title. He does not say Africa is being sabotaged per se; he points out that the prescriptions given to underdeveloped countries are detrimental and this may or may not be malicious. Note that there are valid reasons for these prescriptions which the prof counters with ideas of his own.

I find it interesting that he does not prescribe waiting for good governance to emerge before taking action since this may take centuries; Nigerian intellectuals should note.

All considered, a great video

thanks - i used the word because i couldnt write 'delibrately obstruct' . which was exactly what i had in mind- is africa delibrately obstructed doesnt work.
i am still researching anyone that has looked at the military implications of a poor Africa. do we even have a nuke on the continent? if tomorrow anyone decides to resume slavery, what can we do?(thats my next research topic, will post it up when am done) because simple iron is needed to build planes- if the ones we have are burnt down, we cant build others- how about drugs for war time diseases,
my common sense perception says- we are also at a disadvantage defence wise, hence , 'deliberately obstruct' includes ''defence wise, that made the word sabotage more in tune with my thoughts- e.g do you remember when we had to fight bokoharam and were begging other countries for guns? the AK 47 was made in before 1960, so the rights should have died away, and then we have DICON in Kaduna- all we needed was cheap metal and electricity to produce any amount of guns we wanted, and a basic petrochemical industry to produce gunpowder which is as old as 9th century abi? just the same basic Industries- and we had an oil boom and we have iron ore and we have crude oil and we have ajaokuta and we have dicon. are we all that stupid? n.b we have peugeot in kaduna too for years- but no metal, so they only couple. i could go on- the magnitude of the ihibition warrants the word sabotage (poor internet because of poor electricity because of poor metal and petrol., .. and the list goes on- they generally go back to these basic industries)

next election, we should demand the politicians just fix these basic industries if you ask me. no more big big talk.

shibiyu:



do we even have a nuke on the continent? if tomorrow anyone decides to resume slavery, what can we do?(thats my next research topic, will post it up when am done) because simple iron is needed to build planes- if the ones we have are burnt down, we cant build others- how about drugs for war time diseases,
my common sense perception says- we are also at a disadvantage defence wise, hence , 'deliberately obstruct' includes ''defence wise, that made the word sabotage more in tune with my thoughts- e.g do you remember when we had to fight bokoharam and were begging other countries for guns? the AK 47 was made in before 1960, so the rights should have died away, and then we have DICON in Kaduna- all we needed was cheap metal and electricity to produce any amount of guns we wanted, and a basic petrochemical industry to produce gunpowder which is as old as 9th century abi? just the same basic Industries- and we had an oil boom and we have iron ore and we have crude oil and we have ajaokuta and we have dicon. are we all that stupid? n.b we have peugeot in kaduna too for years- but no metal, so they only couple. i could go on- the magnitude of the ihibition warrants the word sabotage (poor internet because of poor electricity because of poor metal and petrol., .. and the list goes on- they generally go back to these basic industries)

we should vote a party to power to just fix these basic industries if you ask me.

Yes African countries are generally weak but that doesn't mean we don't have defensive capacity to resist bigger powers. The united states lost in Vietnam and will eventually lose the proxy war in Syria. Soviets lost in Afghanistan. The US lost proxy war with Iran.

There not many countries that produce weapons. You know economies of scale and all that jazz. Anyway Nigeria 4th strongest millitary on continent. We'll have higher casualties but us coming out on top not impossible depending who backs Nigeria.

WELL SAID!!

omohayek:


What does his South Korean citizenship (which I already knew) have to do with anything? He's at Cambridge, which is a western university.

As for our lecture about South Korean history, I know it far better than you do, and I also know many South Koreans (and Japanese, and Russians for that matter), so when I say Ha Joon Chang is spouting leftist nonsense, I'm not doing so out of ignorance of either history or the man's economic theories. If you ever bother to read the man's books (e.g. his "23 Things They Don't Tell You About Capitalism" ) you'd see for yourself that the man is one of those "progressive" anti-capitalist types.

Finally, if you actually knew some economics, you'd know that appeals to "commonsense" have zero credibility in the subject. Is comparative advantage or marginal utility "common sense"? Is general equilibrium "common sense"?

The major problem holding Africans back isn't a shortage of foreign aid or goodwill from the rich world: in fact, the westerners would like nothing better than that our economies start growing, so that fewer of us will want to migrate to their countries! No, what holds Africa back is its mostly worthless leaders, who in turn get to the top because too many Africans care more about tribal supremacy and getting "their turn" to loot the public purse, rather than about effective government. When was the last time politicians anywhere in Africa have been challenged on how they plan to finance the grand promises they make during campaigning?

redsun:
Africa is poorly managed. Ruled by sociopathic mediocres that hijacks power by dubious mean. When the blind are led by the blind,they will eventually fall into pit.

Africa isnt poorly managed by choice, its by design. before them come, we get great leaders, think Edo, think All the excellent stories you heard from social studies! after them leave, them begin help arrange mugu keep for us!

next election, make we ask for the basics only, not 5000naira per month. if all the money for the welfare people are put into ajaokuta, and it gets working, some youth will get job, then the metal will be available for other businesses to pick up and you will see a mulitiplier effect, tomorrow, we fit start build railway, parts for aeroplane, car, etc. then the govt will collect income tax from the workers and the companies and get their money back. e too simple make dem no know. we suppose ask them if them put gun for their head like ni weh dem no dey gree do am.

na draught dem dey play and we dey do mumu dey.
as Ukwa talk,
Naija people, oyinbo don chop una naira, na dem take our money disapper, the legal 419 na just a game, we be the mugu, dem be the Master.

Blue3k:


Yes African countries are generally weak but that doesn't mean we don't have defensive capacity to resist bigger powers. The united states lost in Vietnam and will eventually lose the proxy war in Syria. Soviets lost in Afghanistan. The US lost proxy war with Iran.

There not many countries that produce weapons. You know economies of scale and all that jazz. Anyway Nigeria 4th strongest millitary on continent. We'll have higher casualties but us coming out on top not impossible depending who backs Nigeria.

my dear, with the basic industries, we might not need anyone's help. shouldnt that be what we are aiming for?
who like person weh dey always come knock door 'brother help me abeg' 'sister help me abeg'.
plus all that serious money weh dem say dem steal because we wan been use am buy gun go fight bokoharam for still dey we hand o. think am. and plus even if na 3 percent of the gun weh we dey use we dey produce, e still make sense. you dont kid with defence-for national politics, na only strong man or very poor man fit sleep without care- we no poor, so we better grow muscle.
as army man talk, smoke o smoke o, if you no smoke o dem no go fear you- as far as these our basic factory no dey produce smoke(working), dem no go fear us- (now them don start dey fear China small small abi? because them don start dey smoke )

play it backwards, from any sector and you see that these basic industries are the beginning of civilization itself. na when them first arrange iron na that time human being begin serious and dem know say metallurgy na backbone of civilisation. think am, check am. look round, most of the iron weh u see, na import we import am, when we get iron ore. na like say you sell tomato then you go buy derica abi tomapep. just grind your own tomato na.