bolaino:
I want to use this medium to appeal to the Federal Government Of Nigeria to please consider the creation of an Indigenous state comprising solely of both the Urhobo and Isoko States Respectively. as Bayelsa was created. I believe it is within our constitutional rights as Ethnic nationalities with distinct cultural and social roots in this country. to call on the FG to recognize our uniqueness and create a separate state from Delta state compromising of Urhobo and Isoko.

TonyeBarcanista:
I support 100%! Ijaws in Delta, Edo and Ondo have been agitating for Toru-ibe state.

Enough is enough

hammerF:



The bolded they make me laugh. How Ijaw take reach Edo sef? i don too here this thing.


Ondo yes we know the Apoi Ijaw and that Itsekiri are ijaw mixed with Illaje in delta.


But Edo, u gat some information to share abi na explaining to do?

bolaino:
Urhobo/Isoko combined together own a lot of landmass in Delta State. but yet we are still made to beg the other smaller tribes on our land for allocation and jobs. it is not right.

HopeAtHand:



Shame shame shame!!!....Shame!!!!.

So your saying the Urhobo can be described as Toyota Camry "big for nothing" car.

Just big like that with little clout or influence.. Your people suppose flog you for this insult.

Instead of running away from your state, Push the Ijaws into Bayelsa and the Itsekiri into Ondo. Simple. Easy. Problem fixed.

TonyeBarcanista:

Go find out the ethnicity of the present Edo state first lady and where she hails from in Edo state. No be by noise

LordAdam7:


Okpari!

Urhobo and Isoko run from Delta State? For who ke?

People when we give land?

E no gel atol...

-Lord

bolaino:
my good sire. my Father Is Isoko From Ozoro Isoko North. and My Mother is Urhobo From Agbara-otor Ughelli North. so I am both from the two Tribes of Isoko and Urhobo. and this Issue is a issue that is close at heart. because I grew up in Warri and I have lived in Delta state for the vast majority of my life. and currently given the circumstances that we are in. Urhobo and Isoko have no choice than to put petty sentiments aside and join hands together to achieve a common goal. ukwuanis are Anioma. they are IBO People and are likely to break away with the Biafrans. and No Isoko Village will go with Biafra. any Isoko Village that makes any move to go with Biafra. we will burn that village down. so Ukwuanis and Kwale etc are with IBO people. Isoko and Urhobo are from Bini. so that is that. already Ijaw and Urhobo are fighting in Udu. and Isokos are not mixed with Ijaws.

LordAdam7:


Some Isoko villages had cultural influences from these Igboid groups. Study the Isoko history. Not all of us came from Bini. So you can't go threatening Isoko people who have Igboid ties that they'd exterminated. I don't know any Isoko community that would want to go with Biafra but statements like the one you made stoke animosity within the Isoko nation.

To the best of my knowledge, Isokos do not get into fights between any of the big 4; and there have been many such fights since the biggest in '99. So the Urhobos should maintain their ground. Udu is Urhoboland and I'm sure the Urhobos would have the upper hand.

The Isokos are not cowardly, but since you are mixed this should come from a full-blood; the Isokos typically maintain a non-alignment inter-ethnic policy with any of the big 4. We've defended our territory with fervor, but no tribe including the Urhobos can call us brothers-in-arms. The current Udu crises is a strictly Urhobo-Ijaw affair. The same way the Itsekiris would not join in, is same way the Isokos would not join in but prevent any spill-overs to Isoko villages. If you guys are looking for mercenaries, that is another topic altogether.

That is perhaps the strongest indication that the Isoko see themselves as ethnically distinct from Urhobo.

The Urhobos are worried about the rising influence of Ijaws, and want to maintain supremacy in Delta. It's times like this that the UPU will start playing the united Urhobo tune. When it's time to share the spoils, they'd remember the IDU represents a different ethnic group.

If the Urhobos were wise, they'd extend an olive branch to Delta North and all the igboid groups, and also to Isokos. Form a power bloc, then pitch the Ijaws and Itsekiris against each other (them no like themselves); so that either tribes will have to pay homage to the Urhobos before they get anything significant in Delta.

But no, you guys are going about it the wrong way trying to fight people who unlike before now have considerable military advantage. Times are changing, and the sooner the Urhobos realize it, the better for them. Before Delta will become a mini-Nigeria where the majority ethnicities Urhobo-Isoko-Anioma are ruled by the smaller Ijaw-Itsekiri people.

Don't say it can't happen, it started happening after Uduaghan got second term. Okowa is just a figure-head currently to satisfy the Anioma people. Na Ijaw dey rule now. And na them go continue in 2023. And after that, put another ethnicity as figure-head governor while they pull the strings in the background.

-Lord

bishopkay:


I can't agree less with you my brother. Uhrobos and Isokos are their own problems. Do you really think only anioma and ijaw could poll out votes for okowa to be there? These people use the divide and rule tactics on us and always win. Hence we'd leave our own, and go working for them.

We have sell outs in the Uhrobo nation. Saboteurs in exalted positions (Ibori was one; in fact he started it)

Since 2007,PDP has never won governorship elections in that state but the saboteurs amongst us, na them go still carry thugs come disrupt elections when suppose favour their own.
Until we get rid of greed especially among our Ovies and these saboteurs UPU comes to mind, we would remain in the political wilderness despite having the majority clout in Delta State.

LordAdam7:


Some Isoko villages had cultural influences from these Igboid groups. Study the Isoko history. Not all of us came from Bini. So you can't go threatening Isoko people who have Igboid ties that they'd exterminated. I don't know any Isoko community that would want to go with Biafra but statements like the one you made stoke animosity within the Isoko nation.

To the best of my knowledge, Isokos do not get into fights between any of the big 4; and there have been many such fights since the biggest in '99. So the Urhobos should maintain their ground. Udu is Urhoboland and I'm sure the Urhobos would have the upper hand.

The Isokos are not cowardly, but since you are mixed this should come from a full-blood; the Isokos typically maintain a non-alignment inter-ethnic policy with any of the big 4. We've defended our territory with fervor, but no tribe including the Urhobos can call us brothers-in-arms. The current Udu crises is a strictly Urhobo-Ijaw affair. The same way the Itsekiris would not join in, is same way the Isokos would not join in but prevent any spill-overs to Isoko villages. If you guys are looking for mercenaries, that is another topic altogether.

That is perhaps the strongest indication that the Isoko see themselves as ethnically distinct from Urhobo.

The Urhobos are worried about the rising influence of Ijaws, and want to maintain supremacy in Delta. It's times like this that the UPU will start playing the united Urhobo tune. When it's time to share the spoils, they'd remember the IDU represents a different ethnic group.

If the Urhobos were wise, they'd extend an olive branch to Delta North and all the igboid groups, and also to Isokos. Form a power bloc, then pitch the Ijaws and Itsekiris against each other (them no like themselves); so that either tribes will have to pay homage to the Urhobos before they get anything significant in Delta.

But no, you guys are going about it the wrong way trying to fight people who unlike before now have considerable military advantage. Times are changing, and the sooner the Urhobos realize it, the better for them. Before Delta will become a mini-Nigeria where the majority ethnicities Urhobo-Isoko-Anioma are ruled by the smaller Ijaw-Itsekiri people.

Don't say it can't happen, it started happening after Uduaghan got second term. Okowa is just a figure-head currently to satisfy the Anioma people. Na Ijaw dey rule now. And na them go continue in 2023. And after that, put another ethnicity as figure-head governor while they pull the strings in the background.

-Lord

PDJT:


3 - 6 million?
That's quite a large number capable of being a nation on its own. I mean in Europe, you have nations that are less than a million(Iceland - about 333k, Liechtenstein - less than 40k, Republic of San Marino - about 33k).

bishopkay:


I can't agree less with you my brother. Uhrobos and Isokos are their own problems. Do you really think only anioma and ijaw could poll out votes for okowa to be there? These people use the divide and rule tactics on us and always win. Hence we'd leave our own, and go working for them.

We have sell outs in the Uhrobo nation. Saboteurs in exalted positions (Ibori was one; in fact he started it)

Since 2007,PDP has never won governorship elections in that state but the saboteurs amongst us, na them go still carry thugs come disrupt elections when suppose favour their own.
Until we get rid of greed especially among our Ovies and these saboteurs UPU comes to mind, we would remain in the political wilderness despite having the majority clout in Delta State.

Tinubutoto:

Some of you talk nonsense, Delta North and the ijaws alliance will always triumph against Urhobo and Isoko. The voting strength in Ughelli, sapele and Abraka is always divided because non Urhobo are almost 30% but the reverse is the case amongst the Ijaw land where they always give a bulk vote to 1 candidate.

Until Urhobo stop this ethnic card, u guys might not smell that seat again.

Tinubutoto:

And you believe the foolish statement, what is the entire population of Delta State? Urhobo is not up to 1million let alone Isoko. Sapele is an Urhobo town with 40% of the population belonging to Ijaw, Itsekiri and Igbo; Ughelli 40% is non Urhobo out of which 10% is Ijaw and the fool is talking about Isoko. Burutu local government is bigger than the two Isoko local government areas put together

PDJT:


Believe is over-stretching it.
I understand it's a wild guess, just like your own percentage postulations.

My point is that they should be more ambitious than requesting for a state.

Personally, I have never met anyone from Isoko.

hammerF:



The bolded they make me laugh. How Ijaw take reach Edo sef? i don too here this thing.


Ondo yes we know the Apoi Ijaw and that Itsekiri are ijaw mixed with Illaje in delta.


But Edo, u gat some information to share abi na explaining to do?

hammerF:


Yes she is ijaw but no article says the part of Edo she haisl from specifically, which brings us back to my question of ijaw connection to Edo.

bolaino:
Urhobo/Isoko combined together own a lot of landmass in Delta State. but yet we are still made to beg the other smaller tribes on our land for allocation and jobs. it is not right.

zendy:


States are not based on landmass, they are based on population. What is the population of Urohbo/Isoko? If they are not at least 2 million, the chances of a state dont exist.

bolaino:
thank you my good Sire. The population of both the Isoko and Urhobo can be put at roughly 5 million or more excluding diasporans of both tribes.

bolaino:
thank you my good Sire. The population of both the Isoko and Urhobo can be put at roughly 5 million or more excluding diasporans of both tribes.

Tinubutoto:

Some of you talk nonsense, Delta North and the ijaws alliance will always triumph against Urhobo and Isoko. The voting strength in Ughelli, sapele and Abraka is always divided because non Urhobo are almost 30% but the reverse is the case amongst the Ijaw land where they always give a bulk vote to 1 candidate.

[s]Until Urhobo stop this ethnic card, u guys might not smell that seat again[/s].

Tinubutoto:

shut up jare, what is the total population of the State? Mind you, the Delta North has the highest number of local government, Urhobo has just 8, Ijaw approximately 4 Isoko 2, Itsekiri 1 1/2 (all together) and u r here making statements that brought no finesse to bear.

zendy:


I dont think you understand. We arw not talking about population in diaspora wgen it comes to state creation. What is the population presentky liv8ng 8n Urohbo/Isoko land?

LordAdam7:


Currently, the population in Urhobo and Isoko land combined will cross the 2 million mark.

Check the 2006 population figures of Delta State here -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_State

-Lord

Tinubutoto:

Ijaws are found in Ovia South East and South West, there are 3 Ijaw clans in Edo State. The Ijaws in Edo are more than that of Ondo State

bishopkay:
That stupid ijaw boy wen dey say Uhrobos no reach 1million for population so ehn... Thunder go soon tear e mouth.

Go and read or carry arms and stop being a nuisance here.

hammerF:


Are they many or just a few villages? Are the Ijaw in Ovia significant? I looked at the map and saw that the area is very close to Delta state border on the west.

The Itsekiri are mixed with ijaw and Ilaje right?