Joshthefirst:
lol

An arithmetic VALUE OR SYMBOL representing a [bbPARTICULAR[/b] quantity.

Infinity is not a real number. Smh lb.

Please just google it.

AnonyNymous:

Actually its not a poor argument at all, I suggest you reread it.

DeepSight:

Aseity

a·se·i·ty (ə-sē′ĭ-tē, ā-, -sā′-)

n. Philosophy
The state or quality of existing in and of oneself, without external cause.

thehomer:


You speak as if it is a bad thing to think and act reasonably. Actually, it is more like, certain actions ascribed to a so-called good God make no sense so either the God is malicious or doesn't exist.

Why acknowledge the existence of a God when there's no good reason to do so? What is your logical proof or demonstration of your God's existence?

Did you receive this so-called divine revelation? Or was it from a third party?

I want to know why you think a good, omnipotent and omniscient God would allow child abuse in his church.

I want to know why you think Jesus' act was a sacrifice.

I want to know why God thought drowning almost all of humanity in a flood was a good idea.

I want to know why God has failed to do what is necessary to get me to believe in him.

I want to know why you've avoided addressing the clear issues I raised.

KingEbukasBlog:


I think I dealt with it properly . If you don't think so , you could show me where you don't agree with it .

AnonyNymous:

You didn't deal with it at all, you just told him his argument was poor and proceeded to label it 'Jainism' without addressing any of his points.

thehomer:


Please go ahead and explain how three people are one person. Or how one person is three people.

I'm saying so. Unless you think no one on earth has ever had enough faith to grow new limbs? Recall that Jesus said it was possible to move mountains with a tiny amount of faith. Do you think people don't have enough for that too?
You can easily show that God can make amputees grow new limbs by you demonstrating your faith on an amputee and making that amputee grow new limbs.

Do you really think these events actually occured?

Edit: I notice that for some reason, you skipped the response I made here. Would you like to address that too?

JackBizzle:



Infinity does not have to be a real number to be a number. The square root of -1 is not a real number.

KingEbukasBlog:


Actually it's a wonderful to think and reason logically . Just that it's apparent that atheists can't do so . That's your opinion about God , I have no problem with it . Again , a blatant appeal to common sense .

KingEbukasBlog:

You can check the first page for the answer . You can read my posts from the first page before I switched to Christian theism . I think you should study deism to understand the logic behind acknowledging the existence of God .

KingEbukasBlog:

God can manifest in different ways and I experience Him in a lot of ways especially miracles not just in my life but in the life of so many people I know .

KingEbukasBlog:

FREEWILL . Even Pharisees and the Sadducees were called hypocritical by Christ himself while they worked as religious leaders in the vineyard of God . Christ also warned us of false prophets and teachers ; apparently anyone who sexually abuses any member of the church isn't of God thus a false prophet or teacher .

KingEbukasBlog:

Christ's action correlates with the meaning of sacrifice : he gave up his position as God , ruler of the universe , to die for man so that he won't be damned forever : John 3 16 explained that clearly . And According to Job : what is man that thou shouldest magnify him and that thou shouldest set thine heart upon him ? Why should an ineffably great being like God be concerned with the affairs of men ? Job couldn't fathom why God, the source of existence to all that is , is immensely interested in man .

KingEbukasBlog:

God abhors sin and sin separates man from God . This same Punishment would be meted out to man not with water but with fire before the eternal reign of Christ here on earth .

KingEbukasBlog:

Your existence is self evident that God exists .

KingEbukasBlog:

Probably tired of responding to the same questions being asked over and over again .

KingEbukasBlog:


Done that . Explained and posted videos . Josh even contributed . It is now incumbent on you to grasp it .

KingEbukasBlog:

Sure , I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me .

KingEbukasBlog:

Of course , event in recent times and through out history , there are well documented occurances of ghost visitations and bodily possession

JackBizzle:



Anyone can wrap their mind around the idea of an eternal, independent and immaterial mind- the issue is that it is a concept that has no validity or evidence in the real world.

Please, reason before you talk

blueAgent:




And which evidence does the alternative concept has?

thehomer:


No you've not. The videos made no sense.

Good. Now when will you publicly heal an amputee or two? I would really love to see the clips on YouTube. Your failure to do so would suggest that Christ has failed to strengthen you though.

So you believe that zombies once roamed the earth?

Wow. And you can say this with a straight face. How many of those visitations would you believe? Would you believe one attributed to Shiva? Or is it only those attributed to Jesus that are real?

KingEbukasBlog:


Made no sense to you .

KingEbukasBlog:

If need be , all to the glory of God .

KingEbukasBlog:

What are zombies ? Sometimes , the cause of an argument could be different views as regards to definition of a word

KingEbukasBlog:

Is there any attributed to any god in History ?

thehomer:


Rubbish. I quoted a passage from your Bible. Do you think that those dead people roamed the earth? Stop this attempt at obfuscation and language games.

Yes there is. As usual there's a good Wikipedia article on it here. Simply read it and realize that your religion is just one of many religions.

KingEbukasBlog:


I don't know what Zombies look like So you tell me

KingEbukasBlog:

Are we talking about spirit possession or mass resurrection of the dead ? You seem confused .

thehomer:


It isn't about what they look like, it is about what you think happened. Again I notice that you're trying to distract yourself from the issue. The bible quotation is clear. Zombies are people who rose from the dead. According to your Bible, dead people got out of their graves and roamed a city. My question to you is whether or not you believe this story. In addition to the talking donkey and other ridiculous notions.



You brought up the issue of ghost visitations and body possession so it seems that you're the one who is confused. Do you want a quote of that too or have you forgotten? You also know that we're talking about this mass resurrection of the dead so why are you trying to distract yourself by claiming ignorance?

I also notice that you're trying to avoid the most painful issues like:

1. Your failure to reason logically
2. Your failure to decide whether or not you would worship a deist God
3. Your actual experience of your God
4. The failures of both yourself and your God to heal amputees
5. Your God's immorality in failing to act on his knowledge of the timing of rapists and murderers committing their heinous acts
6. Your God's decision to commit mass murders knowing it won't solve the problem he ostensibly set out to solve.
7. The fact that your trinity still makes no sense

You can run but you can't hide. You may try to call these all old problems but the fact that you Christians still haven't been able to solve them actually speaks volumes.

thehomer:




You brought up the issue of ghost visitations and body possession so it seems that you're the one who is confused. Do you want a quote of that too or have you forgotten? You also know that we're talking about this mass resurrection of the dead so why are you trying to distract yourself by claiming ignorance?

I also notice that you're trying to avoid the most painful issues like:

1. Your failure to reason logically
2. Your failure to decide whether or not you would worship a deist God
3. Your actual experience of your God
4. The failures of both yourself and your God to heal amputees
5. Your God's immorality in failing to act on his knowledge of the timing of rapists and murderers committing their heinous acts
6. Your God's decision to commit mass murders knowing it won't solve the problem he ostensibly set out to solve.
7. The fact that your trinity still makes no sense

You can run but you can't hide. You may try to call these all old problems but the fact that you Christians still haven't been able to solve them actually speaks volumes.

JackBizzle:



LWKMD! Kingebuka the artful dodger!!

KingEbukasBlog:


Say hello to "God 2.0" for me

All these chimerical bullshit you present as logical thoughts though . You should be ashamed of yourself . Respond to my rebuttal . Huh ? No bible stories to denigrate? That seems to be your forte . Jonbellion 4.0

Please stay away from anything based on logic it does not look good on you

Now ...


SWERVE !

blueAgent:




And which evidence does the alternative concept has?

JackBizzle:




Burden of proof is on the theists

KingEbukasBlog:



To be clear : First , I thought what you meant by zombies are ghosts or possessed people . Then I told you that we have documented cases of such occurances . You then explained what you meant by zombies as people who died and resurrected but gave me an article on ghosts and bodily possession .

KingEbukasBlog:

Now from your own explanation of what zombies are , what is the correlation between it and people possessed by demons and spirits and ghosts ? Again , you are the confused one .

KingEbukasBlog:

Secondly , there is no such thing as a deist God What the heck is that anyway ? Deism is a different concept of God formed through logic and reasoning - a posteriori knowledge devoid of any divine revelation or inspiration. The question should have been : Do you accept FULLY , the deist's concept of God ?

KingEbukasBlog:

Example : Xenophanes a Greek philosopher criticized theism' use of anthropomorphism to describe God . And with reason , he stated that God does not resemble humans in form or in mind , he stated that God does not involve himself in the affairs of mortals and there is no such thing as hierarchy in divinity - this is what a deistic concept of God looks like . No one told him , he just expressed his thoughts about God .

Another is Aristotle. He described God as a primary substance whose existence is ontologically based . And secondary substances can only be caused by a primary substance . And without the primary substance , nothing will exist .

These are deistic concepts of God , based on reasoning . There are so many other recondite knowledge of God the deists possess but it would b a waste of time to share them . You don't deserve to know it , you are an atheist ; one doesn't cast pearls before pigs

KingEbukasBlog:

Apparently, your questions reek of ignorance of the subject you attack as false . Like I earlier said , acknowledging the existence of God is one thing and understanding the behavior of God or is nature is another . Because you don't understand the nature of God does mean God does not exist .

KingEbukasBlog:

I can't answer your questions on the Bible properly because I feel like I'm wasting my time . Of course I am . Why pour out knowledge about it and it won't lead to any change . You seek not the knowledge for understanding , so why bother me ?

JackBizzle:





I lack thehomer's patience with your artful doging

KingEbukasBlog:


One can prove something does not exist .


Example
"eiujedne" Does not exist in an English dictionary

Proof : Run a search in an English dictionary , nix - you won't find it

So where is your proof God does not exist , let's know whether it's worth anyone's attention

JackBizzle:




You can only prove that something exists given certain limiters or parameters.


For example,
If we remove or reduce the limiter in your example (official English dictionary), I can create a dictionary with the word eujidine and your proof of non-existence would be destroyed.


this is the same problem atheists have with disproving God. The limiter of earth or the natural world is gone. You people (theists) shift the goal post

KingEbukasBlog:


Say hello to "God 2.0" for me

All these chimerical bullshit you present as logical thoughts though . You should be ashamed of yourself . Respond to my rebuttal . Huh ? No bible stories to denigrate? That seems to be your forte . Jonbellion 4.0

Please stay away from anything based on logic it does not look good on you

Now ...


SWERVE !

JackBizzle:



Burden of proof is on the theists

blueAgent:




As usual your Atheists normal slogan.

JackBizzle:



As usual, you dont understand the fact.


You made the claim that there is a God, prove it.

I reject the claim based on a lack of evidence.


Ball is in your court to prove it. Elijah was said to have done so for the Baal guys. Prove your God answereth by fire!

sonmvayina:


But which one?.,is it the Roman one, the greek one, the mexican one, the yoruba one, the benin one or the ibo one?.,,,,