[/quote][quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=358286.msg6323784#msg6323784 date=1278113933]
[color=#000099][b]U call $1.4 million major?. . .u must be joking

Egypt and Israel recieve $3billion dollars each a yr in military equipment


Whatever collaboration the US army is doing with Nigeria it is anything but major pls. . .

Ps your conspiracy theories are laughable. . .lol

lordangers:

I agree with Paddy_lo. Dont come here with these theories. First they are off-topic. Secound they have no proof (like America is trying to bleep up the DRC). Is that why the IMF (which has a large contribution from the US) trying to cancel out what could end up to be 90% of the DRC's external debt. Then you also pointed out that the US was funding them (the DRC) for their military.

cap28:

you do not understand what you are talking about - first of all a discussion about a war which is being sponsored by the US in order to annexe a mineral rich part of Congo is very relevant to this topic because it further proves that foreign powers like the US, britain and Israel arm african nations for a reason and for a purpose.

Paddylo has come on here to celebrate the fact that nigeria has these supposed state of the art military hardware without understanding the real reasons behind why nigeria has been allowed to arm itself to this level. In a bid to try and associate himself with supposed success and invicibility he fails to see the bigger picture.

The IMF may well have decided to cancel Congo's spiralling debt but thats a bit like taking someone who is about to be executed for a three course meal shortly before the execution - america used troops from two african client states - uganda and rwanda as pawns in order to secure a mineral rich part of congo - this led to the genocide of over 3million congolese people but no mainstream western newspaper carries the story - this is why you and paddy lo say that it is unsubstantiated, it is unsubtantiated in your mind because you rely soley on the white man's version of the truth not the real truth.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=12404

by the way the military aid given to the congolese by the US govt is NOT being given to congolese troops to defend themselves from the american proxy troops of uganda or rwanda but, its actually being given to congolese troops LOYAL to the americans who are fighting in COLLABORATION with the ugandan and rwandan troops.

lordangers:

Lol you say that I dont know anything yet you think that US policy has something to do with this thread. This is a tribute. Start your hate-America speech somewhere else. Also should the IMF keep the debt there so the DRC is even weaker? I dont know how you can compare that with your three-coarse-meal bleep.
The congo didnt get much publicity because it wasnt a full blown war. The armies were small and the area large. It was mostly death from starvation and disease.
Your an fing blow out. Your now saying their being used to help Rwanda and Uganda. You dont have a fu*k in side your tiny little head of yours.
"The whites mans truth". Fair enough your a racist. Is that why the likes of NTV and South African news agencies give the same news. In fact every non-bleeped country gives the same story. Funney that ey. Not just black or white or coloured but everyone.
If you dont like what we are doing here then go to a moderator and see what sort of response you'll get lol. And when that fails please do us all a favour, and go to the DRC and see what happens to you. See if you get shot by DRC troops or Ugandan's or Rwandans.

lordangers:

Lol you say that I dont know anything yet you think that US policy has something to do with this thread. This is a tribute. Start your hate-America speech somewhere else. Also should the IMF keep the debt there so the DRC is even weaker? I dont know how you can compare that with your three-coarse-meal bleep.
The congo didnt get much publicity because it wasnt a full blown war. The armies were small and the area large. It was mostly death from starvation and disease.
Your an fing blow out. Your now saying their being used to help Rwanda and Uganda. You dont have a fu*k in side your tiny little head of yours.
"The whites mans truth". Fair enough your a racist. Is that why the likes of NTV and South African news agencies give the same news. In fact every non-bleeped country gives the same story. Funney that ey. Not just black or white or coloured but everyone.
If you dont like what we are doing here then go to a moderator and see what sort of response you'll get lol. And when that fails please do us all a favour, and go to the DRC and see what happens to you. See if you get shot by DRC troops or Ugandan's or Rwandans.

cap28:

This is why i hate having discussions with foul mouthed illiterates like you, is it too much to ask for you to put your point across without resorting to foul language?

If you are so dumb and brainwashed that you do not know nor understand america's history of aggression around the world please at least have the decency to admit to your ignorance instead of accusing me of making a "hate america speech".  Unlike you i actually read books and research what is going on around me rather than get my information from fox, cnn and other propaganda outlets.

You say that the war in congo was not given publicity because it "wasnt a full blown war, the area was small and the armies large, - can you stop for a minute and listen to yourself - does that sound like the reasoning of an adult or someone still in kindergarten? 

So the death of over 5 million people is insignificant to you- do you think that if 5 million whites were being murdered this information would not be beamed around the world on a daily basis, 3,000 americans died in the 9/11 attack and this story was front page news for months and yet to you the death of 5 million black africans in a war funded and orchestrated by america is of no importance.

the death and starvation that you dismiss so casually - who caused it?  Did it arise out of nowhere?  was it not triggered by this same proxy war which was funded and orchestrated by america?

What i said in my earlier post was that Rwandan and Ugandan troops are being used by the US to fight a war in the DRC in order to appropriate mineral rich land for american owned multinational corporations - why is this so hard for you to  understand?

Im a racist because i tell you that you are brainwashed, if thats your understanding of racism then i shall leave you to continue to stumble around in the darkness.

You say NTV and South African news agencies report the same news as the news in the west - you are really dumb arent you - have you heard of censoring before?

mens dept:


You cannot have a "tribute" without persons having a response. I guess you guys thought you could bombard us with deceptive facts and overload us with millions of bright pictures and we would smile and agree like ZOMBIE,

lordangers:

You got a problem with swearing? There just words, you cant handle it, tough. I dont take time either when talking to you to ensure that my English is of a standard that means I have to put in any time so you can have satisfaction that you are arguing with someone of the same language calliber as you.
I aint denying America has done agressive things for bleep sake (dont thank for ww2 or anything. Im sure you would rather the Nazi's being no1 in the world). This is a tribute to the Nigerian military. Read the title and stop screwing up the thread. If you dont agree with us then thats fine you have made your point. Now leave us alone. We are just looking at some cool pics. Your the one trying to censor us because they dont have a big tick next to your ideas.
9/11 had more impact on the world didnt it. Before the Congo wars, the Congo had a history of slaughter. There was nothing new. Yes I would rather it got more front-page news. But you cant have every day *another few thousand die of starvation" as your front page. It was only when violence flared up that it grabbed some news. The kivu conflict for example got a lot better coverage.
If calling you racist takes you off then you are 
If you think that white mans news is out to get you then fair enough. Tell me how much did the Iranians look at the Congo in the nineties. The russians and the Chinease. Hmmmm not really got much to gain from helping America have they? Yet they gave nothing to the subject pretty much.
There are also plenty of other news sources that are independant such as reporters without borders that gave it more of a look yet barely anything. Mainly just the starvation.
You also made the point of how in the post before your last post the US was funding Congolese rebels not the DRC troops. So surely they would keep that nice and quite. Infact they would have someone else make that transaction. They would probebly give it to Uganda or Rwanda to give to the rebels. So where did you get that (the us fudning Congo rebels) from.
Now go to the DRC before you post here again. So you can witness how you are so wrong. You can talk to people there, you cant make your own source. Tell me how many reporters did global research send to the Congo. You are using an estimation for the death toll based on western news sources yourself.

Mariory:

@lordangers
Please try your best to ignore these people. An argument is exactly what they are after. It is the best way they can derail this thread. Do you see that this thread has now moved to discussing things totally unrelated to the topic. This is what they want.

So please, let them post their filth, it won't last long.

EXERCISE DESERT FOX: NIGERIAN CADET OFFICERS DESERT WARFARE SIMULATION

Daily Trust (Abuja) Nigeria:

Yobe – Mock War Over Uranium

Hamza Idris

29 June 2010

Yusufari —

Though the road from Gashua, the headquarters of Bade emirate and Yusufari, which shares a border with Niger Republic, is less than 25 kilometres, it always takes close to two hours for ‘Lenge-lenge,’ the popular desert proof truck to cover the distance, because of the nature of the road. “We thought a blissful life will never happen here again, because our agricultural lands hardly witness enough rain. The trees and oasis have been swept away by deserts, and our houses have been literally swallowed by sand dunes,”

Alhaji Mustapha, an opinion leader in Yusufari said. “Wherever you see the military, especially when they move along with their cache of arms and ammunitions, the tendency is that there is a war or serious unrest…but we are living with our neighbours here peacefully, even though we have a common enemy which is environmental degradation,” Mustapha, who is in his 50s said.

When Exercise Desert Fox was introduced last year, it took place at a high field situated about 2km to Yusufari, and therefore only few people around the area knew what was happening. This year however, the event took place at another elevation situated at about 2.5km after Yusufari, and therefore the NDA which temporarily relocated to the area, had to pass through the village, a situation which sent jitters into the nerves of the residents, despite many days of enlightenment campaigns. Jume Bukaram, a 22 year old pregnant house wife, had to run away to Nguru for “safety.” Her husband, Bukaram Aliyu said his wife was afraid, especially when the exercise which entailed military training with attendant gun shots and movement of armoured carriers, with war- ready fierce looking military officers and men, began on the 19th June, 2010.

“My wife said if I didn’t allow her to go, she may likely give birth to a still born baby,” Bukaram recounted, but was quick to add that Jume finally returned to her matrimonial home three days after the exercise began, when she was convinced that it was a “mock war,” meant to equip the final year army cadets of 57 Regular Course of the NDA. Musa Abubakar, a trumpeter at the palace of emir of Yusufari said immediately when the cadets of the NDA arrived, he vowed never to go to the bush or climb the sand dunes to answer the call of nature.

“At the beginning, we were told by rumour mongers that several explosives have been buried along the sand dunes area. But officials of the NDA later allayed our fears that all the ‘bombs’ and fireworks are for the exercise, and adequate safety measures had been taken,” Musa said. “The arrival of the military in our villages has turned out to be a new window of hope for all of us. In fact, the desert and sand dunes which we see as a curse, is now gold for us, because we learnt that a military base will be built, which means we would soon have electricity, roads, water and other utilities,” he added.

The Commandant of the NDA Major General Mahmud Yarima said the introduction of desert training in the curriculum of the academy, was because of inadequate proficiency in special terrain, and unconventional warfare training had remained a serious challenge to the Nigerian Armed Forces, against the background of the ongoing operations in Darfur and the Niger Delta. According to him, the 57 Regular Course cadets had during the one week exercise learned how to practically deploy armoured personnel carriers and recce vehicles, in desert patrol and ambush operations. “We have all experienced the peculiar nature of the desert environment, and have seen its effects on troops and equipment. We have also observed that operations, command, control and communications in desert terrain are quite unique and challenging,” the commandant observed.

He said Nigeria’s armed forces had sent its personnel in terrains and climate such as in the Sudan and Somalia, where they were not adequately prepared for. “Similarly, the northernmost part of this country is largely semi-arid. Whereas in the past, deserts were considered primarily as obstacles to invasion, the discovery and exploitation of mineral resources in these regions, have compelled governments to secure their assets against potential threats from hostile neighbours,” he said. General Yarima noted that the desert was a punishing environment to both men and equipment. “In order to survive, fight and win battles, the limitations imposed by the terrain and climate need to be understood,” he added. “Before the commencement of the exercise, communities around the training site were sensitized not to panic whenever they hear gun shorts, bomb blasts, rocket release or movement of armoured tanks, which are some of the features of the exercise. “We also told them that the one week training is not a war, but a training session,”

Lieutenant Colonel Nwachukwu Onyema, the NDA Public Relations officer told Daily Trust. The peak of the exercise which took place on 25th June, stole the hearts of hundreds of guests and villagers, who were thrilled by the performance of the cadets during the “mock war.” Most of the dignitaries, senior army officers, the cadets and journalists who covered the event, wore army desert camouflaged uniforms, which made the final ceremony look like a real battle ground, akin to what obtains in the Darfur. The Director of Military Training (DMT) of the NDA Brigadier General Kenneth Agboola Vigo, gave a vivid description of the “war” which was between two fictitious Republics, the Federal Republic of Gashua (FRG) and the Democratic Republic of Tulotulo (DRT) before the cadets practicalized it. According to him, the two countries share an extensive land boundary and both attained their independence in the 1960, after colonization by Britain and France respectively.

Hypothetical description of the war showed that Gashua’s economy was dependent on agriculture, while that of Tulotulo was based on industry, specifically on the production and export of steel. Electricity which was the major sustainer of the industrial activities in Tulotulo, is generated hydro-electrically from “River Nguru” which was located in Gashua. To further boost its agricultural based economy, the Gashua government constructed a Mega Dam at Nguru for irrigations. This resulted in the falling of water levels flowing, which grossly affected hydro-electric based industrial activities of Tulotulo. Several industries folded up and the economy of the “country” was grounded, and the government of Tulotulo placed the cause of the mishap on Gashua.

Shortly thereafter, a large deposit of uranium was discovered at Yusufari, a border town in Gashua. This discovery prompted Tulotulo to lay claim over the rich site, as a strategy for reviving its ailing economy, stressing that the uranium area was ceded to Gashua by “an arbitrary delineation by the colonialists.” While the case taken to the International Court of Justice (ICJ) and the African Union (AU) Tulotulo deployed its troops to Yusufari with a view to fully occupying the uranium region and threatened to open further into Gashua. Irked by the move, the “President” and Commander-in-Chief of Federal Republic of Gashua, Auwal Suleiman, alias Tommy Jay, ordered his forces who in the mock war are the NDA cadets, to employ all necessary force “to halt, contain and expel the invading Tulotulo army from Gashua territory.”

The “war” was a sight to behold as the Gashua forces (cadets) conducted a series of eight raid operations on enemy camps, six ambushes and went on both foot and long range patrols in vehicles around the sand duned region , which led to the sacking of the “enemies” albeit the Tulotulo forces. The cadets totalling 179 in number including 45 Navy, 33 Air force and 103 Army, equally showcased their ability in weapons handling and Bayonet fighting. Some even dismantled AK 47 rifles and Machine guns, and assembled them with their eyes covered with red cloth. The guest of honour, Speaker of the House Of Representatives Dimeji Bankole who was represented by the House leader, retired Lieutenant Colonel Tunde Akogun, says as a special and highly professionalized institution, the Nigeria Armed Forces had proved itself worthy on many occasions.

According to the Speaker “I must also not fail to acknowledge the efforts of the armed forces, in the sustenance of democracy in the last 11 years. Exercise Desert Fox has exemplified the commitment of the military to uphold its enviable status. The tactics were right, the command was sharp, the control was well focused, and the team work was well articulated,” he said.

Governor Ibrahim Gaidam, earlier granted audience to the NDA commandant at the Government House Damaturu, acknowledged a request, and directed the chairman of Bade local government area to give a befitting land to the academy, for the establishment of a permanent desert base camp for the annual exercise. In their separate remarks at the closing ceremony, the minister of police affairs Alhaji Adamu Maina Waziri and the minister of state for defence, Alhaji Murtala Yar’adua, commended the NDA for introducing the exercise. For the people of Gashua, Yusufari, Nguru and even some villages in Niger Republic, the coming of the military to the desert was a good omen. “We hope that very soon, the road linking Gashua and Yusufari would be tarred, so that taking our children and pregnant women along it, would be easy,” Ya Kanna, a 57 year old woman who watched the final exercise, prayed.

MILITARY JOINT TASK FORCE FREE KIDNAPPED SAILORS AFTER FIREFIGHT

Joe DeCapua

VOA NEWS

05 July 2010

In Nigeria, a military raid has freed 12 foreign sailors abducted by militants over the weekend in the Niger Delta.

VOA reporter Chinedu Offor, who’s on assignment in Nigeria, says, “The announcement was made by the spokesperson for the Nigerian joint Military Task Force….  He did not release details of how these sailors were freed, but sources told us there was a firefight between the Nigerian military and members of the militant group.”

Reports say a number of militants were killed and their camp destroyed.

After being freed, the sailors were taken to Bonny, where their Antigua-registered ship is anchored.  Bonny, located in Rivers State, is the main oil terminal in the Niger Delta.

The sailors, including the captain, were abducted Saturday.  However, the captain was able to radio for help before he and the others were taken aboard boats and into the creeks where the militants hide.  The sailors include Germans, Filipinos and Africans.

Ships in the Delta sometimes have little room to navigate.  If a vessel slows or stops, it becomes vulnerable to attack.

funmi2010:

They deserve praise for preserving democracy

funmi2010:

They deserve praise for preserving democracy

finally to Paddy Lo, guy, u too much!

GAR3TH:

inflated. . .you actually believe that. . .its more like 2,500 in my opinion. . .also this is a part of war. . .name one war that never had this same problem. . .Journalist always inflate numbers to get attention. just like the so "3500" Ghanaians that took refuge in Togo after land disputes with tribes. but it turns out that that village on had a population no more than 500.  you shouldn't always read what you hear. even in the U.S.A they recently had troubles with some "false" journalism with the NAACP.