xterra2:

^^^^well it seems you are a bad belle
As the page said There are two units of this (two of same type as NNS amabe and this was taken before refurbishment as you forgot to see the description maybe,,,,but anyway are you saying that Ghana would defeat us or we can defeat them I think we can do so

texazzpete:

Always laughable to see you people hype these outdated armament here. Of course it's a no-brainer that the Nigerian millitary will cream Ghana. try taking on the likes of Egypt and Ethiopia and you'll see the difference.

NNS Aradu? Please. All the Ghanaians need to do is cough up $10 million for a pair of Exocets.

it's one thing to be patriotic, but don't try and hype the Naija millitary any more than the 'local champions' they are.

It is very necessary for Nigerians to travel outside. u talk of local champions? When u come OUTSIDE u realize Nigeria is actually great!

Paca-Z:

It is very necessary for Nigerians to travel outside. u talk of local champions? When u come OUTSIDE u realize Nigeria is actually great!

one cannot compare America and Nigeria. they are simply incomparable! if we had their ancestors for almost 400 years of slave trade , build all the road networks, our "Black House" in Abuja, bus system, rail ways, primary military and other amenities, probably we will not be doing those things now we have returned to build our country!

What of Southafrica? The person who posted the picture of the equipped police is nt even ashamed of the color of the person in case u r suffering from temporary blindness the person is white.For your information if u remove the white influence from southafrica they r nothing. Look at the top 4 banks in Africa for example the top 3 are south African_ ALL FREAKING DUTCH CONTROLLED but to the best of my knowledge i do not think the CEO of Intercontinental Bank- Nigeria is White, the no4 , actual No1 In Africa operated by Africans.When u allow the white people to control you that is wat u get A well developed military equipments and all. Another Example is senegal. They don have close to the whites but the whites are getting their maximum resources!


no one is saying Nigeria is the best but don't compare wrong countries , Nigeria to the best of my Knowledge had Biafran war, Niger delta crises , and other daily problems, but still has this? All those criticizing what have you honestly done to help get the dream weapons? After all people like bill gates started from his father's garage so u do not need millions do you?

Nigeria like every country has its up's and downs, but as a 90% black controlled country deserves praise and credit for such development even if they are minute.Slowly but surely we will get there if u give Nigeria 400 years of slavery time lost plus 50 yrs i think America of now will nt be a village but a HAMLET.

We have work to do but if u do not recognize your accomplishments the country can never move forward. the bad is always more than the good. the Bad is always published everywhere, someone tries to publish some good and all people can do is post nonsense? post southafrica stuff on their website, get their passport and join them as a black maid or houseboy cos that's wat all the blacks are doing if u don't know.]

Thank you dear poster , you realize Nigeria is not perfect has so many Problems like the irritating ignorant fools bark about it but you post something useful and hopeful and those with proper brains will see how to improve what we have as we are still the greatest REAL AFRICANS with all our Alexander the Great weapons. thanks man u r a true Person not just patriotic but u have lot of common sense which i have seen is very uncommon to some people.

Can u imagin comparing a country that virtually has the whole world as their enemies with Nigeria? why don't u compare baby us and its mother UK? Pls keep us posted i enjoy the pics. The country i live in in Africa does not even have a military airport. And they believe they are the best in west Africa.

Pls for God's sake don;t "Quote "" me in the box thingy, just reply @ me and type your Quote it is ignorant and illetrate and foolish to repost what i posted entirely. Thanks No dis-respect intended.
God bless Nigeria We have 400 years + i think America was nt near this 100+ years after Amerigo Vespucci discovered it.

MandingoII:

All little boyz like to play G.I joe, Until they are in Combat and despoiling and pisssin on themselves

not to mention watching their comrades get their heads blown off.

keep dreaming of being in uniform. your dream just may come true.

the U.S. Army is looking for Igbo volunteers.,,,,,,,,,,,google it.

You must be so proud to not be able to look behond someones skin color

Even nowadays you have a slave trade in Africa again, to a far greater extent then anywhere else on the planet

Although I like it that you have great security lets not try and get to proud in pulling resources to kill people.

a supposed nation which uses its military to terrorise and massacre its own people (biafra, Odi, Zaki Biam, Niger delta)

a "nation" that has never defended its territory from any external attack,

homerac7:

hmmm, ,

i am wonden y a lot of ppl here xpect us to stockpile so mch ammos dt we dont and maynt need. y will som ppl compare our security needs wt iran, korea, SA, UK, US, india, pakistan, heaven , hell, everywhere everywhere? who r we at hostility with? what is d level of security threat around us? wht justification wld there b for nigeria to build and aquire AWACs, carriers, nukes, hell-fire-hades-gahena-bla-bla weapons?
is it commensurate wt real threats around us? so wht is it wt d daydream dt we possess d state of d arts arsenal, u thnk dey come cheap? hav u ever wonderd if d super-military nations ever envy our lower level of threat?

my ppl, answer to d above question will shw y nigeria may not be in haste to develop or acquire d super hi-techs, bt d most important thn is ability to adapt to new level or types of threat. today we can effectivly contain any aggression around us, bt if our aggresssors get to b d war weary egypt or south africa, then, d armament strategy will definitely change. remember hw d south eastern nigerians built an arms industry during d civil war? dt tells u hw a ppl can adapt to new security situations.

[p]d present order is on improvement. response time is good for any set-up around us. i remember d pix of puma attack chopper d poster pasted, dts good, i only wish he added d Apaches we also fly. they r d most powerful rotor wing combat aircraft anywhere in d world. most of d responses criticise d jets, some years back we actually sold off many of those Alphas and Jaguars, thou we still fly some of them, we hav a current mix wt F-16s. so i hope those cryin for F-14 hornets can feel better now. [/b]

d whole idea is about taking care of real available threats and lettn d politicians manage d foreign relations. it is quite expensive to manage a sophisticated military, u jst mak som sacrifices to avoid d need for sudden higher transition. moreover, d country has other departmental needs apart from d military, so lets make do wt what we hav or else we shall relapse into unnecessary debts due to excessive (in most times unnecessary and avoidable) military spendings.

to all my postiv guys in d house, i salute u. d disappointed ones, we shall get there.

lordangers, God bless u for your objectiv posts. Paddy Lo, u will always b my guy.

ciao!

Paca-Z:

I want to believe you are not insinuating i am racist. am a realist , and i do not judge people by their skin color,or nationality.

Pls give some respect to the (THE) slave trade, where people wer packed like sardines for weeks living on bearly nothin, no need to go into that it serves no purpose.

Posted by: lordangers
Posted by: cap28
For me , ironically i find it funny that u guys make such remarks, because i wonder how perfect the other countries who you guys love so much have been to their people and others outside the life's they have destroyed, in many different WAYS , pLS all "normal ''people here, including our dear poster, know about the downs of nigeria, (Noting , your statements are barely true) but we want to publicize the good on this thread, pls take the bad of Nigeria and the good of the "Perfect" countries u love so much to another thread , oh or better still their national website lets see if the perfect people will allow u to do that.

First off you were the one who said you were proud to have an all black leadership. In most other countries they strive to have equality where you arnt blocked off from politics for example just because of your skin colour. You dont like any non-blacks in your leadership. You said that, not me.
I gave respect to the slave trade. I said it was bad but we stopped it (because we knew it was bad) and tbh you never bothered to stop your own slave trade in Africa. Today it is reduced which is great but dont stick two fingers up to America and say it is a super-power merely because it had a slave market. I mean look at Africa, where's its super power?

Our best jet fighters are based on a plane that came out shortly after WWII (15 Chengdu F-7s from China). Our best attack helicopter is the Hind (Russian, Apache is American).
This is our air force website. Its packed with assorted junk and planes that look like bicycles, what a disgrace! You can view it here

This is an F-16. Where have you ever seen such a plane anywhere near Nigeria? Shocked Shocked

Paca-Z:

oh ok, if u guys are nt racist why don't u allow a Nigerian into the throne of England and /or become your prime minister? Does it mean u r Racist , no! because its your country. you won't build a house and leave a total stranger to come live and control u in YOUR house, would you?

Beaf:

This is our flagship plane, the Chengdu J-7
We've only just recently ordered them, by the way. I don't know if they've been delivered yet. We love anything that is tokunbo.

lordangers:

wooooah whats all this about F-16's and Apache's?
About the J-7's, it came out about 2/3 decades after WW2 and production was only halted in 2008. It has seen sucsessful service in Africa with Zimbabwe (It's involvement in the 2nd Congo war) and with Tanzania (Ugandan-Tanzanian war in stopping Libyan Tu-22's). Only three air forces in the world have given them up and stopped using them altogether. Mozambique, because of it's civil war and being unable to maintain them. Iraq because of how it was beaten and Albania because it didnt see the need to maintain the size of it's armed forces. Nigeria has bought 15 modern versions of the jet (3 appear to be advanced trainers). They aint bad and Nigeria doesnt really have an air force to contend with in the region? You dont really need interceptors in peace-keeping missions and these are replacing older versions of the Mig-21 which is a sign of progression.

As for the rest of the Nigerian air force, well other fighters are sitting on the ground and will probebly be taken out altogether soon, you have plenty of light attack aircraft such as Aermacchi MB-339 (12) and even your nearest rivals (Cameroon) jets are your trainers as the Alpha Jet (24). Theres between 100-200 basic trainers, well over a dozen heavy transports. Your helicopters are found in a few modern armies such as Europe, Russia and the US. And theres well over 50+. Now where does Nigeria need F-16's? If they've got them then thats well ok. A bit unessasery but whatever. Anyway Nigeria if the big daddy in the region. Even if you brought all the air forces in West Africa together they could match this or come anywhere close.

Paca-Z:

South Africa Southafrica, they are always boldly saying 50% of the population is poor , 90%+ are "the owner of the house" @ lordangers , yet (they)-(90%+ the strangers^{At Lordangers}) have and are producing such weapons.

no body is unnecessarily blowing Nigeria's trumpet all we r saying is a little wow, cos most African nations dont't have up to that and pls i said most, 40/53 at least is still most. So if Nigeria is trying to get its priorities right y be negative? People are hungry, homeless, without regular light and drinking water, plus the regrettable corruption here and there, regular crisis, and u want them to go and buy such expensive stuff?|

for your concern with the soldiers in fact from the pictures and in reality those going on missions are well equipped no-one sends them with hunter's gun. that's why like i mentioned there are allies and organizations like UN and Au fyi.

Beaf:

The Chengdu F7 is a glorified MIG-21. . .And MIG-21 entered service in 1959!!! WWII tech.
Why can't we have MIG-35 equivalents, if since the 70's we have had MIG 21's? If cost is the problem, we can buy advanced aircraft from South Africa, Pakistan, India etc. We don't need planes that start with "car keys" in this high tech day and age. How long will we defend this backwardness?

I am glad you mentioned Iraq and how their airforce was taken to the cleaners in less than two days. We are an oil producing nation like Iraq, there is no example more apt of why we need a modern airfoce, navy and army. lets stop hailing the crap weapons our men risk their lives with. We owe them much more.

lordangers:

The F-7 was made in 1966 and was different (not completely) but it was defiantly better if only slightly. And why would the likes of China, Pakistan and Egypt all be using them (along with just under a dozen other nations). Nigeria has bought modern F-7's that meet the needs it has. Why does it need Mig-35's? Who will attack them?
Also Iraq gave up theirs after 2003 when they were invaded. The air force was disbanded and it would have been impossible to maintain 80 F-7's with no piolets or maintainance crews,

Beaf:

The F-7 is a MIG-21. Period.
It is an old, crancky and useless plane. You know why the Iraqi's buried their planes in the desert and flew the majority they didn't have the time to bury off to their mortal enemy, Iran? Because they are useless planes; no serious country flies that rubbish and all those who flew it are phasing it out (including the likes of Pakistan).
Yes the F-7 is the Chinese one of the Mig-21 but you are getting modern versions
If they are getting rid of the F-7 (Chinese) then why have they made a recent purchase of them in 2003?!
There are nations getting rid of their J-7's but they are the likes of Pakistan and have you seen their neighbourhood. They're "best friend" India is getting all these 4.5 generation fighters and the US is right on their doorstep. China sits on top of them and they have an insurgency where they need accurate ground attack units.

Who will attack us? Perhaps you haven't heard the latest that Cameroon is no claiming Obudu ranch in addition to Bakassi. If we had MIG-35's and other equivalent weapons, they wouldn't have dared.
So what if they are caliming it? You think they will try and take it by force? 
You could hold them off with our F-7's, your Jaguar's or even your Alpha Jets, you have 4x more then them, of those jets.
You could invade them if you wanted to, do you think they could stop you?

If the rationale for decripit weapons is that nobody will attack us, then we are better off arming our brave souls with sticks and catapults to save money.
Im saying who would attack us in the state we are in now? No one, 

Beaf:

The F-7 is a MIG-21. Period.
It is an old, crancky and useless plane. You know why the Iraqi's buried their planes in the desert and flew the majority they didn't have the time to bury off to their mortal enemy, Iran? Because they are useless planes; no serious country flies that rubbish and all those who flew it are phasing it out (including the likes of Pakistan).

Who will attack us? Perhaps you haven't heard the latest that Cameroon is no claiming Obudu ranch in addition to Bakassi. If we had MIG-35's and other equivalent weapons, they wouldn't have dared.

If the rationale for decripit weapons is that nobody will attack us, then we are better off arming our brave souls with sticks and catapults to save money.

xterra2:

the F-7 is not a MiG-21 fishbed it is an advanced version of it and ours is an advanced version of the advanced version of the MiG-21, (our F-7 is an advanced version of the normal F-7)
And let Cameroun claim Obudu thats they own palava but they wouldnt dare to attack or come close,