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[s]Being an atheist does not make your irreligious . And there are no special awards attached to being an atheist ; it's a shameful thing to be an atheist and not what you should feel proud of . Take that smile off your face and hide your face in shame [/s]

aren't you a progressive creationist one of the most idiotic creationist beliefs on the face of the earth
You are the one that needs to hide your head in shame!

Pidgin2

SHALOM!

I answered your stupid conundrum, explaining why Yahshua's Statement was not a contradiction: it would be polite of you to address that first, before jumping to some other point.

If Yahshua had contradicted The Bible, the Israelites would have executed him on the spot.

He was therefore using a figure-of-speech peculiar to their language.

jonbellion:
lmao
Jesus didn't die for my "sins"

First of all: HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY KNOW THAT?

God is The only possible Judge of such a thing.

Secondly: YAHSHUA'S DYING FOR THE SINS OF THE WORLD HAS NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH THE GOSPEL.

Yahshua never preached that he was going to die for anyone's Sins, nor required anyone to believe that he was going to, or had done that.

Therefore, you are fighting a non sequitur.

If Jesus existed he died for his stupidity going around Isreal and claiming he was god which was considered blasphemy according to the Jews.

YAHSHUA NEVER, AT ANY TIME, CLAIMED TO BE GOD.

That is a popular misconception amongst those who failed to read The Bible for themselves, but rather trusted others to read it for them- who subsequently betrayed that trust.

. JOHN 10:24-40.

24. Then came the Jews round about him,
and said unto him,
"How long dost thou make us to doubt?
If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly."
25. Jesus answered them,
"I told you, and ye believed not:
the works that I do in my Father's Name,
they bear witness of me.
26. "But ye believe not,
because ye are not of my sheep,
as I said unto you.
27. "My sheep hear my Voice,
and I know them,
and they follow me:
28. "And I give unto them Eternal Life;
and they shall never perish,
neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29. "My Father, Which gave them me,
is greater than all;
and no man is able
to pluck them
out of my Father's Hand.
30. “I and my Father are one."
31. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32. Jesus answered them,
"Many Good Works have I shewed you from my Father;
for which of those works do ye stone me?"
33. The Jews answered him, saying,
"For a good work we stone thee not;
but for blasphemy;
and because that thou,
being a man,
makest thyself God."
34. Jesus answered them,
"Is it not written in your Law,


'I SAID,

"YE ARE GODS?" '


35. "If he called them gods,
unto whom The Word of God came,
and the Scripture cannot be broken;
36. "Say ye of him,
whom The Father hath sanctified,
and sent into the World,


'THOU BLASPHEMEST;'


because I said,


'I AM THE SON OF GOD?'


37. "If I do not the Works of my Father,
believe me not.
38. "But if I do,
though ye believe not me,
believe the Works:
that ye may know,
and believe,
that the Father is in me,
and I in him."
39 Therefore they sought again to take him:
but he escaped out of their hand,
40. And went away again beyond Jordan
into the place where John at first baptized;
and there he abode.

YAHSHUA SUCCESSFULLY DEFENDED AGAINST THE CHARGE THAT HE HAD CLAIMED TO BE EQUAL WITH GOD.

Notice that he had never claimed to be the Messiah.

This was the only thing that he had forbidden all of his Disciples to tell anyone.

. MATTHEW 16:13-20.

13. When Jesus came
into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi,
he asked his Disciples, saying,
"Whom do men say that I the Son of Man am?"
14. And they said,
"Some say that thou art John the Baptist:
some, Elias; and others, Jeremias,
or one of the Prophets."
15. He saith unto them,
"But whom say ye that I am?"
16. And Simon Peter answered and said,
"Thou art the Christ,
The Son of The Living God."
17. And Jesus answered and said unto him,
"Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona:
for flesh and blood
hath not revealed it unto thee,
but my Father Which is in Heaven.
18. "And I say also unto thee,

'THAT THOU ART PETER,
AND UPON THIS ROCK
I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH;
AND THE GATES OF HELL
SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT.'

19. "And I will give unto thee
The Keys of The Kingdom of Heaven:
and whatsoever thou shalt bind on Earth
shall be bound in Heaven:
and whatsoever thou shalt loose on Earth
shall be loosed in Heaven."
20. Then charged he his Disciples
that they should tell no man
that he was Jesus the Christ.

THE CLAIM THAT YAHSHUA IS THE CHRIST IS ONE OF THE SIGNS OF THE FALSE PROPHETS PREDICTED TO COME.

. MATTHEW 24:1-5.

AND Jesus went out,
and departed from the Temple:
and his Disciples came to him
for to shew him
the buildings of the Temple.
2. And Jesus said unto them,
"See ye not all these things?
Verily I say unto you,

'THERE SHALL NOT BE LEFT HERE
ONE STONE UPON ANOTHER,
THAT SHALL NOT BE THROWN DOWN.' "

3. And as he sat upon the Mount of Olives,
the Disciples came unto him privately,
saying,
"Tell us,
when shall these things be?
and what shall be
The Sign of thy Coming,
and of The End of the World?"
4. And Jesus answered
and said unto them,
"Take heed that no man deceive you.
5. "For many shall come in my Name,
saying, I am Christ;
and shall deceive many.”

YOU WILL FIND, WHEN YOU READ YAHSHUA'S WORDS FOR YOURSELF, THAT THE GOSPEL IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU HAVE SUPPOSED.

What concerns me a sub-Saharan African with a Palestinian jew .

THE ORIGINAL HEBREWS WERE BLACK, AND SOME NEGRO TRIBES MAINTAIN BELIEF IN THEIR ANCESTRAL ORIGINS.

Where the Saviour of the World comes from is unimportant; the efficacy of his Salvation is important.

You don't have any problem using Technology invented by people not of your race, do you?

So stop pretending that Yahshua's Race is an important factor to you.

What did your own race ever produce to help you?

I gather that they did not even succeed in Teaching you the Spiritual Facts of Existence.

How exactly did a jew die for the sins of mankind
You need to wake up from this crap

YAHWEH GOD ACCEPTED THIS ONE MAN, TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE REST OF MANKIND, AT HIS DISCRETION.

. JOHN 17:20-23.

20. "Neither pray I for these alone,
but for them also which shall believe on me
through their Word;
21. "That they all may be One;
as Thou, Father, art in me,
and I in Thee,
that they also may be
One in us:
that the World may believe
that Thou hast sent me.
22. "And the Glory
Which thou gavest me
I have given them;
that they may be One,
even as we are One:
23. "I in them, and Thou in me,
that they may be made Perfect in One;
and that the World may know
that Thou hast sent me,
and hast loved them,
as Thou hast loved me."

COMING TO HIM THROUGH YAHSHUA HIS SON, WE FIND ACCEPTANCE WITH GOD.

. MATTHEW 10:32-33.

32. "Whosoever therefore
shall confess me before men,
him will I confess also
before my Father
Which is in Heaven.
33. "But whosoever
shall deny me before men,
him will I also deny
before my Father
Which is in Heaven."

. JOHN 14:1-18.

"LET not your heart be troubled:
ye believe in God,
believe also in me.
2. "In my Father's House
are many Mansions:
if it were not so,
I would have told you.
I go to prepare a place for you.
3. "And if I go and prepare a place for you,
I will come again,
and receive you unto myself;
that where I am,
there ye may be also.
4. "And whither I go ye know,
and The Way ye know."
5. Thomas saith unto him,
"Lord, we know not whither thou goest;
and how can we know The Way?"
6. Jesus saith unto him,
"I am The Way, The Truth, and The Life:
no man cometh unto The Father, but by me.
7. "If ye had known me,
ye should have Known my Father also:
and from henceforth ye Know Him,
and have seen Him."
8. Philip saith unto him,
"Lord, shew us the Father,
and it sufficeth us."
9. Jesus saith unto him,
"Have I been so long time with you,
and yet hast thou not known me, Philip?
He that hath seen me hath seen The Father;
and how sayest thou then,

'SHEW US THE FATHER?'

10. "Believest thou not
that I am in the Father,
and the Father in me?
The Words that I speak unto you
I speak not of myself:
but the Father that dwelleth in me,
he doeth The Works.
11. "Believe me
that I am in The Father,
and The Father in me:
or else believe me
for the very Works' sake.
12. "Verily, verily, I say unto you,

'HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME,
THE WORKS THAT I DO
SHALL HE DO ALSO;'

and Greater (Works) than these shall he do;
because I go unto my Father.
13. "And whatsoever ye shall ask in my Name,
that will I do,
that The Father may be glorified in The Son.
14. "If ye shall ask any thing in my Name,
I will do it.
15. "If ye love me,
keep my Commandments.
16. "And I will pray The Father,
and He shall give you another Comforter,
that He may abide with you for ever;
17. "Even The Spirit of Truth;
whom the World cannot receive,
because It seeth him not,
neither knoweth Him:
but ye know him;
for He dwelleth with you,
and shall be in you.
18. "I will not leave you comfortless:
I will come to you."

NO ONE ELSE CAN DO THIS FOR US.

Therefore, those who respect that he allowed himself to be Sacrificed- at the very least to draw our attention to his Message- can achieve SALVATION.

Y

akintom:


Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

The nazarene was a deluded miscreants that hadly got mentioned, in the historical documentation of the scholars, who lived about the very time that the delusionist was claimed to have lived.

The christards will rather impale massively, than submit that the whole buy-bull is a crap.

Which part of YAHSHUA WAS EXECUTED as ENEMY-OF-THE-STATE, because of his IDEAS, is too difficult for you to understand?

Both the ROMAN GOVERNMENT and the ISRAELITE LEADERSHIP wanted BOTH HIM AND HIS IDEAS GONE!

Anyone recognizing Yahshua was ejected from the Synagogues.


. JOHN 9:13-22.

13. They brought to the Pharisees
him that aforetime was blind.
14. And it was the Sabbath day
when Jesus made the clay,
and opened his eyes.
15. Then again the Pharisees also asked him
how he had received his sight.
He said unto them,
"He put clay upon mine eyes,
and I washed, and do see."
16. Therefore said some of the Pharisees,
"This man is not of God,
because he keepeth not the Sabbath day."
Others said,
"How can a man that is a Sinner do such Miracles?"
And there was a division among them.
17. They say unto the blind man again,
"What sayest thou of him,
that he hath opened thine eyes?"
He said,
"He is a Prophet."
18. But the Jews did not believe concerning him,
that he had been blind, and received his sight,
until they called the parents of him
that had received his sight.
19. And they asked them, saying,
"Is this your son,
who ye say was born blind?
How then doth he now see?"
20. His parents answered them and said,
"We know that this is our son,
and that he was born blind:
21. "But by what means he now seeth,
we know not;
or who hath opened his eyes,
we know not:
he is of age;
ask him:
he shall speak for himself."
22. These words spake his parents,
because they feared the Jews:
for the Jews had agreed already,
that if any man did confess that he was Christ,
he should be put out of the Synagogue.

AFTER PAUL CHALLENGED EMPEROR NERO TO KILL AS MANY CHRISTIANS AS HE COULD, TO FORCE THE SON OF GOD TO MANIFEST TO HIM, NO ROMAN HISTORIAN WANTED TO WRITE ABOUT YAHSHUA- OTHERWISE THEY WOULD BE EXECUTED AS CHRISTIANS.

Nero is infamous for having invented the "streetlight."

This consisted of wrapping Christians in oilcloth, and setting fire to them. They wete called SDRMENTICII (Firewood People,) and SEMISSII (Half-Stiver Stake People). Oyinbo Atheists like to pretend that there were no records of this Atrocity.

Therefore, only the very serious would become Christians, and commit their Faith to writing.

jonbellion:
no I do not
But you do

Your opinion is based on mere wishful-thinking, with no evidence to back it up.

SHALOM!

Omudia:
Firstly, do you believe that Christ Jesus came down from heaven?

There are four classes of people, according to Yahshua: DOGS, PIGS, GOATS, and SHEEP.

Those who just vomit the Word of God, only to come back to it, once the World has digested It for them, are "DOGS."

I think I need to Post on this....

The point is, THE BIBLE is an ENLIGHTENMENT RELIGION: the worshippers are expected to MENTALLY ATTACK the BASE MATERIAL, and achieve BREAKTHROUGHS, in order to perceive a HIGHER MESSAGE.

Those who cannot do this fall by the way side, and are failures.

Of all the things Yahshua said and did, THIS is where you hang up?

I I'm ashamed that no one can anwser this simple question as christian.well,let the word of God answer it for us in the book of Act 7:56 And Stephen said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.My fellow brothers in the lord God created one earth but many HEAVENS.The one our God live is highest .Remember our lord Jesus was with h God in the beginning.though ELIJAH and Enoch do ascend to heaven but not the heaven our lord Jesus came from.I hope the word of GOD have anwsered ur question?

please read these bible verses about heavens:Gen2:1,2:4 DEU 10:14,32:1 and Psam 2:4,8:1and8:3 and so many other verseses.

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jonbellion:
The christians are always fond of saying that "carnal minds" can never understand the bible.
Well my mind must be be carnal then
2 kings 2:11
As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind.
John 3:11
No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven--the Son of Man.(these were jesus' words)
I don't think you need a soothsayer to tell you there is something wrong here
What's your say on this christians
Hopfullandlord, Hahn. Lennycool, jackbizzle, benzics, lepasharon, liberadeus, immorttal, seun, randomperson, teempakguy, SirWere, Akintom
The christian crew

You call that a contradiction?

Study in Context, and you'll see what Jesus meant.

Here's one of my previous posts. It should help answer that.

Talking about John 3:13; it
shouldn't be confusing at all.

Let's see what Jesus meant: Considering the context of
Verse 13, taking it from
verse 10. Jesus was talking
about Himself as Testifying
what He has seen (on the
Earth). Which they also should have seen and therefore, NOT marvel at/disbelieve His teachings. However, He was surprised that they marvelled at/disbelieved His testimony
even tho' He was yet testifying about what should
be obvious to them.

Here's where verse 13
comes in.

In line with that, He said, "If
I testify earthly things to you
(which you already should
know) and you don't believe
me; how much more will you
disbelieve me if I tell you about HEAVENLY things?
Considering the Fact that,
'no man has ever gone to
Heaven and returned to tell
you these things. But
Himself has come down from heaven and has a LIVE
Testimony of it'"

Here are the Verses:

"I assure you, we tell you
what we know and have
seen, and yet you won't
believe our testimony. But if
you don't believe me when I
tell you about earthly things, how can you possibly believe
if I tell you about heavenly
things? No one has ever
gone to heaven and
returned. But the Son of Man
has come down from heaven." (John 3:11-13 NLT).

Because the people were yet
weak and carnal, they
couldn't take HEAVENLY
Testimonies. That's why
Jesus had to keep some until
the Time comes when they shall be able to bear/take it.
John 16:12-13.

So, Jesus was NOT disputing
that Elijah was taken up to
Heaven. 2Kings 2:11.

Now, even tho' Elijah came
back as John the Baptist
(Matthew 11:12-15), he was
without memory. He didn't
have the memory of his past
life therefore, he didn't know he was Elijah. John
1:19-21.

In studying the Bible,
understand the context of
every verse. That'll help you
understand the true
meaning of that verse.

Kenneth4u205:
yes they were searching for the dead body of Elijah. the knew that no one can ascend physically into heaven to see God with this body of flesh .those guys were prophets that understand how God does things. that the didn't see the body does not mean that the body wasn't buried somewhere by God.prophet moses body was also buried by God many years earlier and nobody was able to locate it.by mere reason of the prophets searching for Elijah body shows that the knew that God buried the physical body somewhere. it was the spiritual body of Elijah to went to heaven.it was only Jesus that has ever seen God according to scripture you quoted in john

So a dead body was writing letter some years after ?