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Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by SalC: 8:55am On Apr 27, 2017 |
Splinz:Please what aspect of the practice of the said true christianity did the council of Nicea condemn and can you give me names and proof of the people ie true christians who fled Rome because true Christian practice was forbidden? So after 1260 years were is the true church that came out of the wilderness or is the true church still in the wilderness? |
Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by orisa37: 9:20am On Apr 27, 2017 |
They were Antioch Christians. |
Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by rhektor(m): 11:55am On Apr 27, 2017 |
easymancfc: Where are those historical and biblical evidences?
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Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by italo: 5:46pm On Apr 27, 2017 |
rhektor: "And he says to him again after the resurrection, 'Feed my sheep.' It is on him that he builds the Church, and to him that he entrusts the sheep to feed. And although he assigns a like power to all the apostles, yet he founded a single Chair, thus establishing by his own authority the source and hallmark of the (Church's) oneness. No doubt the others were all that Peter was, but a primacy is given to Peter, and it is (thus) made clear that there is but one flock which is to be fed by all the apostles in common accord. If a man does not hold fast to this oneness of Peter, does he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he deserts the Chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, has he still confidence that he is in the Church? This unity firmly should we hold and maintain, especially we bishops, presiding in the Church, in order that we may approve the episcopate itself to be the one and undivided." Cyprian, The Unity of the Church, 4-5 (A.D. 251-256). |
Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by PastorAIO: 11:19pm On Apr 27, 2017 |
rhektor: That's why they said you should read the thread from the beginning. Mr man your interjections are adding nothing to this thread. |
Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by easymancfc(m): 6:28am On Apr 28, 2017 |
rhektor: Sorry it took so long, I was autobanned from the thread St. Irenaeus "The blessed apostles [Peter and Paul], having founded and built up the church [of Rome] . . . handed over the office of the episcopate to Linus" (Against Heresies 3:3:3 [A.D. 189]). Tertullian "[T]his is the way in which the apostolic churches transmit their lists: like the church of the Smyrneans, which records that Polycarp was placed there by John, like the church of the Romans, where Clement was ordained by Peter" (Demurrer Against the Heretics 32:2 [A.D. 200]). The Little Labyrinth "Victor . . . was the thirteenth bishop of Rome from Peter" (The Little Labyrinth [A.D. 211], in Eusebius, Church History 5:28:3). Cyprian of Carthage "The Lord says to Peter: ‘I say to you,’ he says, ‘that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not overcome it. . . . ’ [Matt. 16:18]. On him [Peter] he builds the Church, and to him he gives the command to feed the sheep [John 21:17], and although he assigns a like power to all the apostles, yet he founded a single chair [cathedra], and he established by his own authority a source and an intrinsic reason for that unity. . . . If someone [today] does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he [should] desert the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he still be confident that he is in the Church?" (The Unity of the Catholic Church 4; first edition [A.D. 251]). "Cornelius was made bishop by the decision of God and of his Christ, by the testimony of almost all the clergy, by the applause of the people then present, by the college of venerable priests and good men, at a time when no one had been made [bishop] before him—when the place of [Pope] Fabian, which is the place of Peter, the dignity of the sacerdotal chair, was vacant. Since it has been occupied both at the will of God and with the ratified consent of all of us, whoever now wishes to become bishop must do so outside. For he cannot have ecclesiastical rank who does not hold to the unity of the Church" (Letters 55:[52]):8 [A.D. 253]). "With a false bishop appointed for themselves by heretics, they dare even to set sail and carry letters from schismatics and blasphemers to the chair of Peter and to the principal church [at Rome], in which sacerdotal unity has its source" (ibid., 59:14). Eusebius of Caesarea "Paul testifies that Crescens was sent to Gaul [2 Tim. 4:10], but Linus, whom he mentions in the Second Epistle to Timothy [2 Tim. 4:21] as his companion at Rome, was Peter’s successor in the episcopate of the church there, as has already been shown. Clement also, who was appointed third bishop of the church at Rome, was, as Paul testifies, his co-laborer and fellow-soldier [Phil. 4:3]" (Church History 3:4:9–10 [A.D. 312]). |
Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by FECOSON: 8:10am On Apr 28, 2017 |
Its simple! What is the difference between Roman catholic church and the Protestant churches? What are those things done in the Catholic church of the present that were not in the Church of the Apostles time? 1. If you can prove that Peter and his fellow Apostles put on the Priestly Robe, then the first church is catholic 2. If you can prove that Peter ,Paul and the other Apostles use the rosaries then you have a point 3. If Mary the mother of Jesus was venerated to the status of Mother of God during the times of Peter and the other disciples, then you have a point. 4. Show me the earliest Monastery if it coincides with Jesus or His Apostles 5. Which seminary or Monastery did Timothy attend 6. How many Nuns were recorded in the books of Acts of the Apostles. Are you telling me that we no longer have "Reformation" like modernization? OK answer me Were your great grandfathers educated like you are now? Is the number of cars in Nigeria now the same with of that the 1960's Were Nigeria past leaders graduates apart from yar a' dua and Gej Was Abuja the capital? Why are you Christian, were your great grandfathers Christian? If you prove them, you have a points |
Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by FECOSON: 8:26am On Apr 28, 2017 |
evidence in the Bible The evidence is for you to stop using Catholic calendar Christmas Esther New year Valentine Etc Even government observe them |
Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by easymancfc(m): 11:49am On Apr 28, 2017 |
FECOSON: With all due respect to you.. you don't make any sense because you answer your own questions you answer your own questions with the REFORMATION STATEMENT... questions for you too... Did the apostles use KJV Bible only Did they were business suits or made the church "ME AND MY WIFE CHURCH " Did they use daily manna devotional or rhapsodies of realities... Did they own private jets ?? if you can't provide evidence for this then the early Church was definitely not Pentecostal or protestant You talk about Seminary for Timothy... Timothy learned from an apostolic man, that is his seminary... Paul after he met Jesus went to study in Arabia for 3 years and then went to make sure that what he is preaching is in line with what Jesus taught the apostles (see gal 2:1-2) So Timothy didn't need to go to seminary. but a person in the Four to twentieth century needs to learn all the things from Apostolic times so that he may know not just scripture and theology but also history of how the church has continued from the time of Paul and Timothy to this time... concerning nuns.. there is also scriptural evidence for this practice that was in seed form at the time.. Paul talks about how virginity and serving God is linked in 1 cor 7 :8 To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is well for them to remain single as I do. and 34 and his interests are divided. And the unmarried woman or girl is anxious about the affairs of the Lord, how to be holy in body and spirit; Jesus himself also talks about people who will be eunuchs for the sake of the Kingdom in mat 19 THE BOOK OF ACTS IS NOT THE END OF THE APOSTOLIC ERA.. BECAUSE THE APOSTLES LIVED BEYOND ACTS 28.. PETER AND PAUL DIDN'T PRAY THE ROSARY BECAUSE THE ROSARY HAD NOT COME INTO EXISTENCE IN ITS PRESENT FORM WHILE THEY ALIVE BUT THEY DEFINITELY USED A FORM/VARIATION OF IT CALLED THE PSALTER... AS FOR PRIESTLY GARMENTS.. UNFORTUNATELY FOR YOU NOT ONLY CATHOLICS WHERE PRIESTLY GARMENTS, OTHER CHRISTIAN PROTESTANT SECTS DO TOO.. BESIDES GOD COMMANDED THE USE OF SPECIAL GARMENTS FOR HIS MINISTERS IN THE OLD TESTAMENT AND THIS WAS NOT CONDEMNED IN THE NEW TESTAMENT... see exodus 28 1 Like |
Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by easymancfc(m): 12:24pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
FECOSON:Christmas is simply to celebrate Christ's birth, the beginning of his work of Salvation.. in heaven the Angels celebrated "Christmas" Luke 2:14 11 for to you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord. 12 And this will be a sign for you: you will find a babe wrapped in swaddling cloths and lying in a manger.” 13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying, 14 “Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace among men with whom he is pleased!” Easter is the celebration of Christ's resurrection which is the foundation of our faith and as Paul says 1 cor 15: 14 if Christ has not been raised, then our PREACHING IS IN VAIN and your FAITH IS IN VAIN.15 We are even found to be misrepresenting God, because we testified of God that he raised Christ, whom he did not raise if it is true that the dead are not raised. SUCH A MILESTONE IS WORTH CELEBRATING Valentine and other days are used to REMEMBER the great things our brothers and sisters in Christ have done and TRY TO IMITATE THEIR FAITH while we look to them for encouragement and inspiration just like the bible says Phil 3:17 Brethren, join in imitating me, and mark those who so live as you have an example in us Hebrews 6:12 so that you may not be sluggish, but imitators of those who through faith and patience inherit the promises. Hebrews 13: 7Remember your leaders, those who spoke to you the word of God; consider the outcome of their life, and imitate their faith. New Year is celebrating life which comes from God and giving God the glory for that life on that day which a new year begins I HOPE YOU KNOW THAT MOST IF NOT ALL CHRISTIANS CELEBRATE EASTER AND NEW YEAR, MAYBE CHRISTMAS TO A LESSER EXTENT.. THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS OR ANY CHRISTIAN HOLIDAY, THEY ONLY PERMIT CHRISTIANS IN THE COUNTRY TO CELEBRATE THEIR RELIGIOUS HOLIDAY JUST LIKE THEY ALLOW MUSLIM'S.. BESIDES NOT ALL GOVERNMENT PERMIT SUCH CELEBRATIONS.. GO TO THE MIDDLE EAST AND SEE... I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS SCRIPTURE col 2:16 Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a sabbath. |
Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by Atanuje(m): 2:56am On Jul 25, 2020 |
No,read foxes book of martyrs ,i believe the book will answer that question, the Romans were still pagans and persecuted the protestant Christian , under the guise of idolatry the catholic church was established and continues killing Christians and Jews including Moslems .CATHOLICS READ THE HISTORY OF YOUR SHRINE |
Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by Nobody: 6:31am On Jul 25, 2020 |
italo: Jesus said "by their fruit you will know them" And Paul listed the qualities of that single fruit in the Bible book of Galatians 5:22-23 So can you please explain how those listed qualities can be observed in the Catholic Church? James 2:18-26 |
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