Stewie101:


What do you mean by an atheist state? Do you even know how that sounds? And how can you compare that with an Islamic state? An Islamic state is one which upholds the supremacy of the laws in the Quran and it's reaffirmation in the Hadith and the Sunna as the set of laws that should be implemented and enforced throughout all the country. Atheism isn't a religion. Atheism doesn't have a codified system of beliefs and laws. Atheism doesn't have a book that is believed to be divinely inspired by a supreme being. Atheism is just a disbelief in the existence of god due to uncompelling and irrational arguments for his existence.

North Korea is a despotic, communist country ruled by a dictator. And any dictator can use whatever beliefs and ideologies to justify any system of rule, especially when he doesn't want any form of polarization, which religious belief and diversity seems to create. This doesn't make that belief intrinsically antithetical to social and moral progress. How about strongly progressive secular countries like Denmark and Sweden? Why aren't they experiencing the equivalent of what's happening in North Korea?

I am still wondering how your response is an argument against atheism. Atheism isn't a political ideology. You should learn to disentangle political ideas from ideas bothering on religion. Atheism existing within a democratic, liberal political framework, effectively facilitates the opposite of what's happening in North Korea.

And am I the only one that is noticing how you are conveniently refusing to acknowledge other factors influencing the current social picture in North Korea? I am talking of factors like popaganda, brainwashing and the systematic stifling of independent critical thinking. Last time i checked, these are the kind of things atheists are strongly against.

AgentOfAllah:
I doubt I have ever claimed that the "universe came from nothing". I don't even know what "nothing" means. Nor do I know what Laurence Krauss' views are on the subject matter, so it is curious how you've come to infer that I "tacitly" endorse his supposed view of the origins of the universe.

Stewie101:


How you manage to just reduce a complex and sectarian problem in a particular region that has strong historical and political underpinnings to just a problem of atheism is really appalling. You are definitely not a person I'd want to have a conversation with on any subject because you seem to be someone who would be inclined to lie and make uneducated and uninformed assertions and parade them as fact just to support your argument. I don't even know why anyone takes you seriously.

Stewie101:

I am talking of factors like popaganda, brainwashing and the systematic stifling of independent critical thinking. Last time i checked, these are the kind of things atheists are strongly against.

KingEbukasBlog:


Even before modern scientific evidence backed theism , theologians believed the sixth-day creation shouldn't be taken literary . First it was Jewish scholar Philo of Alexandria in the first century and then Christian theologian Augustine of Hippo also made the same observation in the 4th century .

[What makes something an enigma ? The mystery or wonder behind its existence , behavior or acts . Let's look at the magicians . What makes magic interesting is that the magicians' prestidigitation or subterfuge is difficult to decipher . His acts of magic leaves you transfixed . If a magician reveals the mystery behind his acts then it ceases to be an enigma . You immediately lose interest .

One of the laws of power is never to be an open book . You lose control over people or their interests if they could easily understand you or predict your moves . Mystery excites the mind . God could have seen things this way . Please mind you . I'm not saying this is what it is , I'm saying this could be what it is

I think God wants man to relish the wonder behind His existence and his works ; to work tirelessly employing different ways and means to make these discoveries and that is what makes science(the study of God's works or nature ) and the philosophy of theism intriguing and exciting . Unlike atheism which is vapid and somniferous

CatfishBilly:
You mean a brain that sleeps?

hahn:


Answer the damn question and stop throwing big words in a bid to color your empty statements

Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs?

KingEbukasBlog:


I do not rage when atheists demand proof , so why should I answer the question

Here is my question : Why do atheists rage when Christians demand proof

dalaman:


Not necessarily so. I don't believe the universe came from nothing but I disbelief in all Gods.

hahn:


So the fact that you have created more threads directed at atheists than at your god proves what?

Proof of what exactly?

hopefulLandlord:
I'm starting to like this Stewie101 guy, don't let it get to your big head though

akintom:
1 Thessalonians 5:21(BBE)

Let all things be tested; keep to what is good;


1 Thessalonians 5:21(KJV)

prove all things; hold fast that which is good;

Of course, the stimulus of the pathologic rage of Christians, is the cognitive dissonance, which is secondary to the conflicting verses in the Bible.

This condition is further complicated, by their intellectual dishonesty and arrogance.

KingEbukasBlog:


Atheism is dangerous and only the retarded embrace it. People need to be aware .

Why are you an A-Theist ??

KingEbukasBlog:


Therefore , the universe is eternal ?

I mean what other possibility is left ? See how you spoilt show for yourself . Finally the truth has been discovered .

Mister mister

Mr eternal universe .

Oya Oya Now produce the scientific evidence backing this belief or else you are seriously deluded . Let's have fun sir . Let's go !

KingEbukasBlog:


Atheism is not philosophical position so there are no constructional elements that constitute atheism . So claiming that atheists are strongly against brainwashing and obscurantism is ludicrous . Where did you get that from . What do you guys smoke before you argue ?

dalaman:


These guys whose names you dropped didn't write the bible. They didn't know the intention of the people that wrote those creation myth. That is if it was meant to be taken literally or not. There is no where inside the bible that sas or suggest that the creation myth isn't to be taken literally. Many young earth creationist even here on nairaland give it a literal 6 day interpretation why are they wrong? What is the true position of Yahweh on creation? Does he want prole to believe in what he told people to write in the bible or not? You can ask him.that as well since you claim to communicate with him.

Magicians by definition are tricksters that use tricks to beguile those they entertain. God on the other hand is said to want people to KNOW that he alone created the earth and everything. He is interested in people knowing. Your God even gave a failed attempt of how the universe came about in the book of genesis, because he wants people to know.

You can't compare magicians that want to conceal the tricks they employ witha God that is said to want people to know that he alone created everything.

Communicte with your God already and tell us how he create the earth so that we will know that he alone created it or just accept that you are delusional.

dalaman:


False dichotomy from your side. It is not God or nothing. The universe could be eternal. No scientist knows that. It could be created, no scientist knows that as well.

The nature of what created the universe even if it were created is UNKNOWN. When I talk about God am talking about Yahweh, Allah, Brahama, Odin etc. Non of these a gods created the universe. Unless if you want to run and hide behind the unknown and undefined desitic concept of God to run away .

CatfishBilly:
It takes one to know one.

Stewie101:


What "constructional elements" (just borrowing your own phrase) leads most atheists out of religion, if not the escape from brainwashing and religious propaganda like the ones your creationist friends peddle, and utilization of the tools of critical thinking which religion stifles? Are you disputing the fact that atheists preach about the usefulness of these three elements?

hahn:


Lol



It has gotten to that point in our conversation again

That point when I wonder why I even bother

KingEbukasBlog:


You are throwing the same questions back at me sir . Your questions were well answered . Allegory ? The bible is filled with allegories which apparently the creation story is one of them . Why God isn't revealing all things ? Because anything unknown or mysterious draws our interest and excites our minds . If God or His works were an open book I strongly doubt we would show interest towards unraveling the mystery behind the existence of God (Asiety) or His works ( Science ) . We are totally riveted with discoveries in nature and studying the nature of God's being because these are enigmas . What is wrong with this response sir ?

akintom:

Do really strive to understand, the difference between scientific propositions and atheistic views?

KingEbukasBlog:


forgotten your discourse with deepsight ?

onyenze123:


What is the atheistic views? (I know the scientific propositions)

onyenze123:


I am a deist.

AgentOfAllah:
I doubt I have ever claimed that the "universe came from nothing". I don't even know what "nothing" means. Nor do I know what Laurence Krauss' views are on the subject matter, so it is curious how you've come to infer that I "tacitly" endorse his supposed view of the origins of the universe.

hahn:


Lol

Guy are you still a Christian?

onyenze123:


He has joined deism. I have got a new member

johnydon22:


what makes a God?

Is a thing God because it created the universe or is God still God whether or not it created the universe?

dalaman:


KingEbukasBlog have you been caught lying?

dalaman:


Very interesting questions. This is what I've always wanted to ask KingEbukasBlog.

hahn:


And your puny god sits back and watches

Let that sink in