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Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by EvangelistNdudi(m): 9:41am On Apr 27, 2017
Since the day i got to know that some books were deliberately removed from Bible (the reason for that is best known to them that did that)
I have putting it upon myself to search for those books, read it and try to know the reason of them been remove
but i was so disappointed because nothing was wrong with those once i have read

The question i would have love to ask the 'authority' that remove a book like "Wisdom Of Solomon" from the Bible is:
how will Christians understand the level of Solomon's wisdom if a book like this is not in the Bible?

You can read bellow a chapter from Wisdom Of Solomon and find out if this book worth to be in Bible or not

WISDOM OF SOLOMON chapter 3 (1 to end)

"1 But the souls of the righteous are in the hand of God, and there shall no torment touch them.

2 In the sight of the unwise they seemed to die: and their departure is taken for misery,

3 And their going from us to be utter destruction: but they are in peace.

4 For though they be punished in the sight of men, yet is their hope full of immortality.

5 And having been a little chastised, they shall be greatly rewarded: for God proved them, and found them worthy for himself.

6 As gold in the furnace hath he tried them, and received them as a burnt offering.

7 And in the time of their visitation they shall shine, and run to and fro like sparks among the stubble.

8 They shall judge the nations, and have dominion over the people, and their Lord shall reign for ever.

9 They that put their trust in him shall understand the truth: and such as be faithful in love shall abide with him: for grace and mercy is to his saints, and he hath care for his elect.

10 But the ungodly shall be punished according to their own imaginations, which have neglected the righteous, and forsaken the Lord.

11 For whoso despiseth wisdom and nurture, he is miserable, and their hope is vain, their labours unfruitful, and their works unprofitable;

12 Their wives are foolish, and their children wicked:

13 Their offspring is cursed. Wherefore blessed is the barren that is undefiled, which hath not known the sinful bed: she shall have fruit in the visitation of souls.

14 And blessed is the eunuch, which with his hands hath wrought no iniquity, nor imagined wicked things against God: for unto him shall be given the special gift of faith, and an inheritance in the temple of the Lord more acceptable to his mind.

15 For glorious is the fruit of good labours: and the root of wisdom shall never fall away.

16 As for the children of adulterers, they shall not come to their perfection, and the seed of an unrighteous bed shall be rooted out.

17 For though they live long, yet shall they be nothing regarded: and their last age shall be without honour.

18 Or, if they die quickly, they have no hope, neither comfort in the day of trial.

19 For horrible is the end of the unrighteous generation."


Brethren, I believe this is the time for we Christians to start making research on some certain things to really know where we are heading to

Thank you and God bless you.
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by pafra(m): 9:50am On Apr 27, 2017
Who said it was part of the bible? How can you be asking for the removal of what was not part of the bible?

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Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by Laralag: 9:53am On Apr 27, 2017
From what I know, some of this books u mentioned r in the jerusalem bible used by Catholics, like Serach, Wisdom of solomon, infact there r a abt 7 books u find in will find in these bible that r not in d other bible, like king james version
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by An2elect2(f): 9:59am On Apr 27, 2017
But the Bible is enough na.
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by Hawx(m): 10:09am On Apr 27, 2017
EvangelistNdudi:
Since the day i got to know that some books were deliberately removed from Bible (the reason for that is best known to them that did that)
I have putting it upon myself to search for those books, read it and try to know the reason of them been remove
but i was so disappointed because nothing was wrong with those once i have read

The question i would have love to ask the 'authority' that remove a book like "Wisdom Of Solomon" from the Bible is:
how will Christians understand the level of Solomon's wisdom if a book like this is not in the Bible?

You can read bellow a chapter from Wisdom Of Solomon and find out if this book worth to be in Bible or not

WISDOM OF SOLOMON chapter 3 (1 to end)

"1 But the souls of the righteous are in the hand of God, and there shall no torment touch them.

2 In the sight of the unwise they seemed to die: and their departure is taken for misery,

3 And their going from us to be utter destruction: but they are in peace.

4 For though they be punished in the sight of men, yet is their hope full of immortality.

5 And having been a little chastised, they shall be greatly rewarded: for God proved them, and found them worthy for himself.

6 As gold in the furnace hath he tried them, and received them as a burnt offering.

7 And in the time of their visitation they shall shine, and run to and fro like sparks among the stubble.

8 They shall judge the nations, and have dominion over the people, and their Lord shall reign for ever.

9 They that put their trust in him shall understand the truth: and such as be faithful in love shall abide with him: for grace and mercy is to his saints, and he hath care for his elect.

10 But the ungodly shall be punished according to their own imaginations, which have neglected the righteous, and forsaken the Lord.

11 For whoso despiseth wisdom and nurture, he is miserable, and their hope is vain, their labours unfruitful, and their works unprofitable;

12 Their wives are foolish, and their children wicked:

13 Their offspring is cursed. Wherefore blessed is the barren that is undefiled, which hath not known the sinful bed: she shall have fruit in the visitation of souls.

14 And blessed is the eunuch, which with his hands hath wrought no iniquity, nor imagined wicked things against God: for unto him shall be given the special gift of faith, and an inheritance in the temple of the Lord more acceptable to his mind.

15 For glorious is the fruit of good labours: and the root of wisdom shall never fall away.

16 As for the children of adulterers, they shall not come to their perfection, and the seed of an unrighteous bed shall be rooted out.

17 For though they live long, yet shall they be nothing regarded: and their last age shall be without honour.

18 Or, if they die quickly, they have no hope, neither comfort in the day of trial.

19 For horrible is the end of the unrighteous generation."


Brethren, I believe this is the time for we Christians to start making research on some certain things to really know where we are heading to

Thank you and God bless you.
Why did you prefer chapter 3?
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by Image123(m): 10:32am On Apr 27, 2017
EvangelistNdudi:
Since the day i got to know that some books were deliberately removed from Bible (the reason for that is best known to them that did that)
I have putting it upon myself to search for those books, read it and try to know the reason of them been remove
but i was so disappointed because nothing was wrong with those once i have read

The question i would have love to ask the 'authority' that remove a book like "Wisdom Of Solomon" from the Bible is:
how will Christians understand the level of Solomon's wisdom if a book like this is not in the Bible?

You can read bellow a chapter from Wisdom Of Solomon and find out if this book worth to be in Bible or not

WISDOM OF SOLOMON chapter 3 (1 to end)

"1 But the souls of the righteous are in the hand of God, and there shall no torment touch them.

2 In the sight of the unwise they seemed to die: and their departure is taken for misery,

3 And their going from us to be utter destruction: but they are in peace.

4 For though they be punished in the sight of men, yet is their hope full of immortality.

5 And having been a little chastised, they shall be greatly rewarded: for God proved them, and found them worthy for himself.

6 As gold in the furnace hath he tried them, and received them as a burnt offering.

7 And in the time of their visitation they shall shine, and run to and fro like sparks among the stubble.

8 They shall judge the nations, and have dominion over the people, and their Lord shall reign for ever.

9 They that put their trust in him shall understand the truth: and such as be faithful in love shall abide with him: for grace and mercy is to his saints, and he hath care for his elect.

10 But the ungodly shall be punished according to their own imaginations, which have neglected the righteous, and forsaken the Lord.

11 For whoso despiseth wisdom and nurture, he is miserable, and their hope is vain, their labours unfruitful, and their works unprofitable;

12 Their wives are foolish, and their children wicked:

13 Their offspring is cursed. Wherefore blessed is the barren that is undefiled, which hath not known the sinful bed: she shall have fruit in the visitation of souls.

14 And blessed is the eunuch, which with his hands hath wrought no iniquity, nor imagined wicked things against God: for unto him shall be given the special gift of faith, and an inheritance in the temple of the Lord more acceptable to his mind.

15 For glorious is the fruit of good labours: and the root of wisdom shall never fall away.

16 As for the children of adulterers, they shall not come to their perfection, and the seed of an unrighteous bed shall be rooted out.

17 For though they live long, yet shall they be nothing regarded: and their last age shall be without honour.

18 Or, if they die quickly, they have no hope, neither comfort in the day of trial.

19 For horrible is the end of the unrighteous generation."


Brethren, I believe this is the time for we Christians to start making research on some certain things to really know where we are heading to

Thank you and God bless you.

That's the exact proof that it's not part of the bible. God said that His words cannot pass away. Stop looking for useless and expired something.
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by Synord: 10:53am On Apr 27, 2017
An2elect2:
But the Bible is enough na.
we never even read old testament finish grin
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by EvangelistNdudi(m): 11:03am On Apr 27, 2017
Hawx:

Why did you prefer chapter 3?
I only use that chapter for example
no chapter is bad , you can go to 'kjv' site and type any of these books in search box

'1 Esdras, 2 Esdras,
Tobit, Judith , Wisdom of Solomon,
Ecclesiasticus , Baruch , the Letter of Jeremiah , Prayer of Manasseh, 1 Maccabees , and 2 Maccabees '

or do you have or know of any chapter that is different from the words of God in those books?
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by EvangelistNdudi(m): 11:11am On Apr 27, 2017
An2elect2:
But the Bible is enough na.
no doubt but what i'm saying is why removing them
the way Solomon talk in that book will strengthen your faith more bro

just as i said, the reason for removing those books is best known to them that remove it
but for me and my home, this books will be added to my Bible
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by EvangelistNdudi(m): 11:13am On Apr 27, 2017
Synord:


we never even read old testament finish grin
my brother please try to always read Bible
it will open your inner eyes to many things
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by EvangelistNdudi(m): 11:14am On Apr 27, 2017
Image123:


That's the exact proof that it's not part of the bible. God said that His words cannot pass away. Stop looking for useless and expired something.
you call that useless and expired? and you are a Christian?

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Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by EvangelistNdudi(m): 11:17am On Apr 27, 2017
pafra:
Who said it was part of the bible? How can you be asking for the removal of what was not part of the bible?
please read the post again and understand the message

thank you.
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by pafra(m): 11:26am On Apr 27, 2017
EvangelistNdudi:
please read the post again and understand the message

thank you.

Guy you should understand me. There's nothing to read in your post. The mentioned books are not part of the bible get it clear
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by Image123(m): 11:38am On Apr 27, 2017
EvangelistNdudi:
you call that useless and expired? and you are a Christian?

Your question has been answered. When will you become a christian?
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 4:12pm On Apr 27, 2017
EvangelistNdudi:
please read the post again and understand the message

thank you.
are you a Catholic ? did Solomon write this book ? is the book in harmony with the bible ? yes Solomon wrote many word of wisdom in Proverbs and Ecclesiastes, but Solomon made know mention of the Godhead. but in the book you are referring us to as the word of God , the book claim ,Solomon mention the Godhead in wisdom 7:29:
“She [wisdom] is a reflection of eternal light, a spotless mirror of the working of God, and an image of his goodness”
secondly. Wisdom 9:18 says that salvation is an act of wisdom, whereas Scripture is clear that salvation is by faith, a gift of God to those whom He calls, justifies, and sanctified. bro, as a matter of fact if man should depend on his wisdom for salvation, then that man is lost forever.
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by EvangelistNdudi(m): 5:24pm On Apr 27, 2017
malvisguy212:
are you a Catholic ? did Solomon write this book ? is the book in harmony with the bible ? yes Solomon wrote many word of wisdom in Proverbs and Ecclesiastes, but Solomon made know mention of the Godhead. but in the book you are referring us to as the word of God , the book claim ,Solomon mention the Godhead in wisdom 7:29:
“She [wisdom] is a reflection of eternal light, a spotless mirror of the working of God, and an image of his goodness”
secondly. Wisdom 9:18 says that salvation is an act of wisdom, whereas Scripture is clear that salvation is by faith, a gift of God to those whom He calls, justifies, and sanctified. bro, as a matter of fact if man should depend on his wisdom for salvation, then that man is lost forever.
No, I am not a Catholic member
why should I believe that the book was not writing by Solomon

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Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 5:40pm On Apr 27, 2017
EvangelistNdudi:
No, I am not a Catholic member why should I believe that the book was not writing by Solomon
Solomon did not write the book.
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by itsloba: 6:24pm On Apr 27, 2017
As for me, i even wish the bible contains lesser books. Even the 66 books left, we are still saddled with the great responsibility of correctly interpreting and applying them to our lives.
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by EvangelistNdudi(m): 8:49pm On Apr 27, 2017
malvisguy212:
Solomon did not write the book.
then who did?

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Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by analice107: 10:43pm On Apr 27, 2017
EvangelistNdudi:
Since the day i got to know that some books were deliberately removed from Bible (the reason for that is best known to them that did that)
I have putting it upon myself to search for those books, read it and try to know the reason of them been remove
but i was so disappointed because nothing was wrong with those once i have read

The question i would have love to ask the 'authority' that remove a book like "Wisdom Of Solomon" from the Bible is:
how will Christians understand the level of Solomon's wisdom if a book like this is not in the Bible?

You can read bellow a chapter from Wisdom Of Solomon and find out if this book worth to be in Bible or not

WISDOM OF SOLOMON chapter 3 (1 to end)

"1 But the souls of the righteous are in the hand of God, and there shall no torment touch them.

2 In the sight of the unwise they seemed to die: and their departure is taken for misery,

3 And their going from us to be utter destruction: but they are in peace.

4 For though they be punished in the sight of men, yet is their hope full of immortality.

5 And having been a little chastised, they shall be greatly rewarded: for God proved them, and found them worthy for himself.

6 As gold in the furnace hath he tried them, and received them as a burnt offering.

7 And in the time of their visitation they shall shine, and run to and fro like sparks among the stubble.

8 They shall judge the nations, and have dominion over the people, and their Lord shall reign for ever.

9 They that put their trust in him shall understand the truth: and such as be faithful in love shall abide with him: for grace and mercy is to his saints, and he hath care for his elect.

10 But the ungodly shall be punished according to their own imaginations, which have neglected the righteous, and forsaken the Lord.

11 For whoso despiseth wisdom and nurture, he is miserable, and their hope is vain, their labours unfruitful, and their works unprofitable;

12 Their wives are foolish, and their children wicked:

13 Their offspring is cursed. Wherefore blessed is the barren that is undefiled, which hath not known the sinful bed: she shall have fruit in the visitation of souls.

14 And blessed is the eunuch, which with his hands hath wrought no iniquity, nor imagined wicked things against God: for unto him shall be given the special gift of faith, and an inheritance in the temple of the Lord more acceptable to his mind.

15 For glorious is the fruit of good labours: and the root of wisdom shall never fall away.

16 As for the children of adulterers, they shall not come to their perfection, and the seed of an unrighteous bed shall be rooted out.

17 For though they live long, yet shall they be nothing regarded: and their last age shall be without honour.

18 Or, if they die quickly, they have no hope, neither comfort in the day of trial.

19 For horrible is the end of the unrighteous generation."


Brethren, I believe this is the time for we Christians to start making research on some certain things to really know where we are heading to

Thank you and God bless you.
Let's start with you mentioning these removed books. What are their names?
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by analice107: 10:51pm On Apr 27, 2017
Synord:


we never even read old testament finish grin
My dear leave these people biko. Tell him to try reading and living by the teachings of "SERMON ON THE MOUNT". Only Mat. Chapters 5-8 alone, if he can do what Jesus taught there, he will quickly forget what the Maccabees is talking about.

I have those books he is talking about, none of them says anything remotely pointing to the messiah which is what the Bible books were considered for before inclusion. No prophets, no prophecies in any of them

Him never finish read the one wey dey here, him dey find extra.
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by analice107: 11:12pm On Apr 27, 2017
EvangelistNdudi:
I only use that chapter for example
no chapter is bad , you can go to 'kjv' site and type any of these books in search box

'1 Esdras, 2 Esdras,
Tobit, Judith , Wisdom of Solomon,
Ecclesiasticus , Baruch , the Letter of Jeremiah , Prayer of Manasseh, 1 Maccabees , and 2 Maccabees '

or do you have or know of any chapter that is different from the words of God in those books?
Can we pls discuss Judith? I want us to really talk about Judith and the events which took place in Judith if we can corroborate that very important event in another book of the Bible, then we can agree to add it.

Another question you shd ask yourself is this, from Genesis to Malachi, the New Testament writers made inferences or referred to the events or what was prophesied in the past, but how come none of this books was quoted by the New Testament writers, will you say, the Compilers of the Bible edited the references out?

Jesus never made mention of any of these books or any event which took place in the past why?

You know, i have read Judith very well, and i love the book, but there's just no way a deliverance that mighty will go unnoticed and never talked about by any other Bible author.

The major character in Judith is Holofernes, the commander in the Army of Nebuchadnezzar, but that name never appeared anywhere else except in the book of Judith. As a matter of fact, Judith does not appear anywhere else apart from in Judith.

The city of Bethulia where Judith came from does not appear anywhere else except in Judith, why?

As at when the Bible talked about Nebuchadnezzar taking the Jews to Babylon as exiles, Jeremiah was alive. And, the Jews were indeed taken to Babylon, but the book of Judith records that, Judith killed Holofernes and delivered and saved the Jews from being taken to exile in Babylon.

We know that the Jews were taken to Babylon because Daniel, Esther, Shadrach, Meshach, Mordecai, Ezekiel, Ezra, Nehemiah were all in Exile in Babylon, but your famous Judith said that never happened.
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by analice107: 11:17pm On Apr 27, 2017
EvangelistNdudi:
no doubt but what i'm saying is why removing them
the way Solomon talk in that book will strengthen your faith more bro

just as i said, the reason for removing those books is best known to them that remove it
but for me and my home, this books will be added to my Bible
Sir, are you done taking in what Solomon said in Proverbs and Ecclesiastes?

I have read the Wisdom of Solomon, and l love Sirach the most, but calm down and read them, they are a repetition of proverbs and Ecclesiastes.
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by analice107: 11:21pm On Apr 27, 2017
itsloba:
As for me, i even wish the bible contains lesser books. Even the 66 books left, we are still saddled with the great responsibility of correctly interpreting and applying them to our lives.
My dear, it's applying them to our lives oo, it's not enough to read from Genesis to revelation, yet you can't control your temper.
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by EvangelistNdudi(m): 12:33am On Apr 28, 2017
analice107:

Let's start with you mentioning these removed books. What are their names?
 1 Esdras
2 Esdras
Tobit
Judith
Wisdom of Solomon
Ecclesiasticus
Baruch
the Letter of Jeremiah
Prayer of Manasseh
1 Maccabees
and 2 Maccabees
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by koxyz: 8:24am On Apr 28, 2017
EvangelistNdudi:
 1 Esdras 2 Esdras Tobit Judith Wisdom of Solomon Ecclesiasticus Baruch the Letter of Jeremiah Prayer of Manasseh 1 Maccabees and 2 Maccabees
The book of Enok is omitted from your list.
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by Immorttal: 9:49am On Apr 28, 2017
Christianity = confusion. If someone said theose omitted books do not deserve to be in the bible, what was the "songs of solomon" doing out there.

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Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by malvisguy212: 10:06am On Apr 28, 2017
EvangelistNdudi:
then who did?
first, his name (Solomon),appear no where in the text. secondly, the book was written around 1st or 2nd century BC, many centuries after the death of Solomon. meaning the book was written by Solomon close friends. thirdly, the reason I ask if you are a catholic is because most of the book supported catholic doctrine ," praying for the dead, petitioning Mary to intercede with the Father, worshiping angels, and alms-giving as atonement for sins" so my friend, the book is a religious book but it is not the word of God. not all book that have the bible content is the word of God. thank you.
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by EvangelistNdudi(m): 11:43am On Apr 28, 2017
koxyz:


The book of Enok is omitted from your list.
really? i'm not sure if i have come across that
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by EvangelistNdudi(m): 11:43am On Apr 28, 2017
Immorttal:
Christianity = confusion. If someone said theose omitted books do not deserve to be in the bible, what was the "songs of solomon" doing out there.
nice question
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by stonemasonn: 12:19pm On Apr 28, 2017
analice107:

My dear, it's applying them to our lives oo, it's not enough to read from Genesis to revelation, yet you can't control your temper.
Then why was the book of revelation added. Its hard to understand, I got a book from Jehovah witness that breaks down the book of revelation but so many things don't make sense.
Re: Why Was "Wisdom Of Solomon" And Other Books Remove From The Bible? by Nobody: 12:24pm On Apr 28, 2017
When you say "the bible" you need to be clear on what that means.

Anyway there are different types of bible

1. The popular (protestant) bible = 66 books - Wisdom of Solomon was never part of it so, it was not removed.

2. Roman catholic bible = more than 66 books ( not sure how many ) - contains Wisdom of Solomon

3. Orthodox bible = 79 or 80 books (not sure) - contains Wisdom of Solomon

4. Coptic orthodox bible - not sure how many books - but contain other books apart from the 66 books

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