bbeautylik:
from No 1 - 7 wasn't the husband alive at some point to father and train the kids?........ I have 6 siblings all trained by my dad
none is wayward.

Then thank your God.... As our families are different so are our various crosses and temptations

akblings:

my attention was drawn to this statement
"train up a child in a way he should go"... Not d discussion

OK. But then from your quote there and trying to reconcile it with your former post. It is the parent's duty to train up a child in the way he should go and it is the child's choice either to go with the training or otherwise. It is not "Train up a child in the way he ***must go." I hope I have said a thousand words with that.

May Her Gentle Soul Rest With The Lord And Her Children, We Pray For Peace, Love And Understand Amongst Them ....Amen

greatnaija01:
My dear your conclusion was very WRONG.... the whole concept of PARENT-CHILD relationships is Train UP a child in the way he should go and when he is older he won't depart from it
The story is a sad and pathetic one and am sorry for the death of the dear woman BUT Everything rises and falls on TRAINING.

In many home it is the father that is the disciplinarian but the MUM soft and can bend discipline to soothe her childrens' comfort
If they were TRAINED... I MEAN THE REAL AFRICAN TOUGH TRAINING...even if they were thugs outside... THEY WOULD DO EVERYTHING TO MAKE THEIR MUM HAPPY.

SOW GOOD DISCIPLINED TRAINING IN TO A CHILD TODAY AND YOU WILL REAP A MATURE WISE ADULT TOMORROW.
Maybe now she is dead, they will see how harsh their attitudes were and put it all away.

America is a clear example of pampered childhood... INDISCIPLINE is just as high as CREATIVITY... hence gay, lezbian and even all sorts of vices are learned from there.

THIS IS A LESSON FOR ALL.

i totally disagree with you; though parent's grooming of their children will go along way to determine how they will act tomorrow, it is not always the case. You can not bring a child to this world and tell him/her how to live; people change. haven't you witnessed a scenerio where the two parents and all their children except one is wicked; why did he/she no follow the footsteps of his/her parent. What really determines how we will act at any given time is US, that entails WE knowing ourselves. Even Orphans lead a good life without coaching from anybody but life.

majekdom2:
lets stop this the way they should go. I have seen pastor's kids turn drug addict. I have seen the children of tough fathers still get parent. if a child wants to be bad, he will be bad. I am not saying training is not important. A rebel will be a rebel no matter the training.

you are very correct, what of the children who didn't even have both parents to train them but they still grew up loving one another

Benekruku:



R.I.P to the dead

It happen in almost every family where the numbers re high!


Give birth moderatly, It bonds the family.



More kids and more disunit


You hardly find such scenarios in moderate family of 3 or 4, At maximum







Anything above a family of 5 is crowd!


BIRTH RESPONSIBLY

U r very very correct! Fr m 2 s ok.

babalonimi:

U r very very correct! Fr m 2 s ok.

Thats what I meant! A family total of 5 at most( Parents with 3kids at most)

flourishing247:
Rip. I have to say she didn't do a good job training them. I speak from experience. Paying school fees and training up children in love are totally different. I know a family like this, all grown up but no love amongst them.
As a parent the most important thing is to train your kids to love themselves. Even if they quarrel they will make up in no time. This is the tiny stuff a lot of people miss. Once you notice them drifting apart start by dishing their food on a big tray. Teach them to eat together and do chores together.

thats true. its called sibling rivalry. it just springs out suddenly sometimes from the devils warehouse. it gets so bad some times that the siblings never talk in many years.

majekdom2:
Some children will never go the way you have trained atimes. It takes God grace. The children that do drugs or pastor's kids that act porn... what would you say about them??

Exactly my taught dear.I just realised most of the children who become wayward at times are mostly from a decent home.Most of the things their parents did not allowed them to do when they were much younger are the things they loved doing,when they are living alone. What an irony.God should help them to truely know him by themselves not the one parents imposed on them.

bbeautylik:
from No 1 - 7 wasn't the husband alive at some point to father and train the kids?........ I have 6 siblings all trained by my dad
none is wayward.

..........nne its not easy at all,especially when the woman is the breadwinner...........mhhhh after the day's stress you find out you dont even have the strenght to talk to kids or correct them in their wrong doing.........widows go through a lot




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refiner:

Her husband died very early...she trained them all single handedly...she was very strict and a beautiful christian but her eldest daughter had a fight with the first son and she manipulated the younger siblings against him...

am not surprised dear. Trust me wen I say it.. Everyone believe it or not its happening live that if I say the story unah go tink say I just made it up. But God for heaven know wetin its happening were I am. Exactly wat u just wrote. If this one the mama join hand self against one person. But u know who God bless not a thousand Philistines can pull u down.

bbeautylik:
Yes na. The no nonsense type

Looking at ur dp......I can see it.....u no even smile fully sef!
N u have a sharp mouth!!!! Ur guy dey try oooo

amakadihot87:
..........nne its not easy at all,especially when the woman is the breadwinner...........mhhhh after the day's stress you find out you dont even have the strenght to talk to kids or correct them in their wrong doing.........widows go through a lot




.

U just answered her for me
Cc.bbeautylik

flourishing247:
Rip. I have to say she didn't do a good job training them. I speak from experience. Paying school fees and training up children in love are totally different. I know a family like this, all grown up but no love amongst them.
As a parent the most important thing is to train your kids to love themselves. Even if they quarrel they will make up in no time. This is the tiny stuff a lot of people miss. Once you notice them drifting apart start by dishing their food on a big tray. Teach them to eat together and do chores together.

no, you are wrong.. Don't say she don't train them well and if you are really talking from experience as you have said, you would know that even if you have trained your kids on the tenents of whichever religion and with good morals,it doesn't mean they would not turn scumbag it is so easy especially with peer groups influence, why do you think it is sometimes the kids of pastors or imam the most corrupt, all this things are trials of this world, some children would be problem to their parents no matter how hard the parent try and even a parent can be a trial to their own children as well, we just need to be prayerful and we should do the best we can in getting children know the messages of God .

GoodFaith:


Crazy mentality
Nobody can training their kids to love one other
What make kids love one other are
You all love your mother unconditional
No selfishness
Morally support one other

The love you have for your mother will not make you love your siblings. It makes you love just your mum and ignore your siblings. Every mothers dream is not for her children to love her totally but it's for her kids to be United in love.
There can only be one black sheep in a family. The black sheep can never influence others to follow him or her.
If you want your family to stay United and break barriers. Train them to love one another. I've seen swings rally round their sis that list her husband and I was amazed at the show of love. The overwhelmed her with support that when her husbands family wanted to mess up. They showed up in full force. People still talk about them till date. They have a bond that can't be broken.

tripoli007:
Bros am sorry to talk ill of the dead but your aunt failed as a mother ,does kids didn't have any love for one another ,so many things happen when kids are little and young of age and parents ignore ,all these now turns to something else when they are old and matured .My mom is from a family of 8 ,she is the 5th child the level of respect everyone gives themselves is really amazing and they all got there backs ,train your kids to love one another from young age ,if not it will be hard when.they are adults .I come from a big family myself ,I dear not challenge my elder bro of 5yrs when he speaks ,I calm and give him that respect but when tempers are down .I will quietly go and meet him and say bros u got me wrong ohh ,its like this or like that and at times we just laugh about it and we still strong .I hope the elder bro of your family can accept and reconcile all parties as the elder one .family is really important

That's absurd of you to say she failed as a mother, please apart from the fact that, it is absurd to say l things about the dead, your assumption is wrong... Who told you she don't do all those things you said... Look ,some children are just meant to give their parents problem no matter how hard the parent try to guide them right, some children aren't merciful at all, and today when peer influence is on the high side, it is so easy for them to change, this things happen, even in the Quran and in the Bible, the son of prophet Nuh(Noah)goes against his father, isn't his father a prophet, also his wife also reject him and both of them refused to enter the ark prophet nuh built to save them... So it's need prayers and a lot of admonition again and again, if a parent have tried their own best to train a child to be pious and morally sound, and the child refuse,then it is to the child,s detriment, God knows and sees the effort of the parent and He is not gonna hold them for whatever foolishness of the child.. Every one would bear his or her cross.

refiner:
With painful and sorrowful heart and a trembling fingers do i type this...

My dad sister died by 8pm lastnight...and guess her murderers?...her CHILDREN...yea u saw it right,they killed their mother with hatred,quarreling,fighting,heart break,matreatment and disunity...

I will make this brief...This lovely woman has got 7 children that are all grown up, but since they grew up to know what's right and wrong,they have been living like cats and mouse...d first daughter(second child) turned all her siblings against the first son,she manipulated them into hatred for their own blood brother and since then there have been fighting and quarreling among themselves.

The mother(a widow) tried everything within her power to unite them but it was like a rolling stone that gathereth nothing...she cried,she cursed,she did everything just for her family to be united again but the eldest daughter was adamant and strong headed!

That lovely woman started having one series of illness to another,she barely eat,she barely sleep but she always think...and that was wha led to her painful death...my dad woke up around 3 am,this morning shivering and gasping for breathe,he saw her in his dream,she was in pain,she was crying uncontrollable but she wasnt able to speak a word...

Now tell me,will her children ever have peace in this life?

parents are either a curse or a blessing to their children,it depends solely on the children on whatever option they choose...pls let's stop causing pain and agony to those that brought us to this world,cause the burden will be too heavy for us to carry after their demise...

rip to the dead.

driand:
Your opinion though,

Go bury ur aunt and leave us out of this issue please!!!

You are exactly like one of those children in the post.
Oponu,must you talk If you don't have any better contribution

luminouz:

Look at this one o putting blame on d woman! U think its easy to take care of 7 children after she lost her husband? How do u even know say she no train them well!!!! U never see pastor pikin wey mad abi?

Abi O,no mind am, how did he know she don't train them well,dem go just dey talk anyhow for here.. They are never realistic

Asidiq23:

Abi O,no mind am, how did he know she don't train them well,dem go just dey talk anyhow for here.. They are never realistic

refiner:
With painful and sorrowful heart and a trembling fingers do i type this...

My dad sister died by 8pm lastnight...and guess her murderers?...her CHILDREN...yea u saw it right,they killed their mother with hatred,quarreling,fighting,heart break,matreatment and disunity...

I will make this brief...This lovely woman has got 7 children that are all grown up, but since they grew up to know what's right and wrong,they have been living like cats and mouse...d first daughter(second child) turned all her siblings against the first son,she manipulated them into hatred for their own blood brother and since then there have been fighting and quarreling among themselves.

The mother(a widow) tried everything within her power to unite them but it was like a rolling stone that gathereth nothing...she cried,she cursed,she did everything just for her family to be united again but the eldest daughter was adamant and strong headed!

That lovely woman started having one series of illness to another,she barely eat,she barely sleep but she always think...and that was wha led to her painful death...my dad woke up around 3 am,this morning shivering and gasping for breathe,he saw her in his dream,she was in pain,she was crying uncontrollable but she wasnt able to speak a word...

Now tell me,will her children ever have peace in this life?

parents are either a curse or a blessing to their children,it depends solely on the children on whatever option they choose...pls let's stop causing pain and agony to those that brought us to this world,cause the burden will be too heavy for us to carry after their demise...

@ the highlighted: Sori to burst ur parochial bubble; weda parents bcm curses or blessings to their kids is not "solely dependent on the kids". U neva c at all. So u talking from ur keyhole of limited experience. Some parents are the very worst to ever hapn to their kids. If a open mouth, dey yarn u stuff ehn, u go pull this topic down, ASAP.

refiner:
With painful and sorrowful heart and a trembling fingers do i type this...

My dad sister died by 8pm lastnight...and guess her murderers?...her CHILDREN...yea u saw it right,they killed their mother with hatred,quarreling,fighting,heart break,matreatment and disunity...

I will make this brief...This lovely woman has got 7 children that are all grown up, but since they grew up to know what's right and wrong,they have been living like cats and mouse...d first daughter(second child) turned all her siblings against the first son,she manipulated them into hatred for their own blood brother and since then there have been fighting and quarreling among themselves.

The mother(a widow) tried everything within her power to unite them but it was like a rolling stone that gathereth nothing...she cried,she cursed,she did everything just for her family to be united again but the eldest daughter was adamant and strong headed!

That lovely woman started having one series of illness to another,she barely eat,she barely sleep but she always think...and that was wha led to her painful death...my dad woke up around 3 am,this morning shivering and gasping for breathe,he saw her in his dream,she was in pain,she was crying uncontrollable but she wasnt able to speak a word...

Now tell me,will her children ever have peace in this life?

parents are either a curse or a blessing to their children,it depends solely on the children on whatever option they choose...pls let's stop causing pain and agony to those that brought us to this world,cause the burden will be too heavy for us to carry after their demise...

Kai
So sad, but ur narrative is even the saddest.
U come with a "brief" version of events and and emboldened conclusion, With no details from her antecedents... nah, its far from the truth.
I av met very terrible siblings... one family of 5 I knew back in the 90s, they were so spoilt, their parents practically died of heart attacks thanks to their various escapades.
But guy...the parents sowed...they set the stage for the drama they later endured.
Where did the sister learn such classical withcraft/manipulation, spreading hatred...am sure she learnt from the best whom she saw for donkey years. Before we blame d harvest, lets be sure to admit the seed sown
RIP to the dead.

tripoli007:
Bros am sorry to talk ill of the dead but your aunt failed as a mother ,does kids didn't have any love for one another ,so many things happen when kids are little and young of age and parents ignore ,all these now turns to something else when they are old and matured .My mom is from a family of 8 ,she is the 5th child the level of respect everyone gives themselves is really amazing and they all got there backs ,train your kids to love one another from young age ,if not it will be hard when.they are adults .I come from a big family myself ,I dear not challenge my elder bro of 5yrs when he speaks ,I calm and give him that respect but when tempers are down .I will quietly go and meet him and say bros u got me wrong ohh ,its like this or like that and at times we just laugh about it and we still strong .I hope the elder bro of your family can accept and reconcile all parties as the elder one .family is really important

Wow! Lucky u bro.

She will find rest with the Lord.
I know some people will blame the woman but most time it's not like that.

I have seen children from worst background, without parental care turn out great, also have seen the ones with all the love and care turn out to be something else. Peer pressure and influence, you will be wondering where you went wrong.




For a woman or man to singlehanded raise 7 kids, it's not easy.
This generation is something else, God have mercy.

DavidEsq:

@ the highlighted: Sori to burst ur parochial bubble; weda parents bcm curses or blessings to their kids is not "solely dependent on the kids". U neva c at all. So u talking from ur keyhole of limited experience. Some parents are the very worst to ever hapn to their kids. If a open mouth, dey yarn u stuff ehn, u go pull this topic down, ASAP.

Aberg yarn ooh brother..I dey surprise as everyone seems to have nice mother ...i cum dey wonder if na only me get worst mama..not really worst but her character get comma

greatnaija01:
My dear your conclusion was very WRONG.... the whole concept of PARENT-CHILD relationships is Train UP a child in the way he should go and when he is older he won't depart from it
The story is a sad and pathetic one and am sorry for the death of the dear woman BUT Everything rises and falls on TRAINING.

In many home it is the father that is the disciplinarian but the MUM soft and can bend discipline to soothe her childrens' comfort
If they were TRAINED... I MEAN THE REAL AFRICAN TOUGH TRAINING...even if they were thugs outside... THEY WOULD DO EVERYTHING TO MAKE THEIR MUM HAPPY.

SOW GOOD DISCIPLINED TRAINING IN TO A CHILD TODAY AND YOU WILL REAP A MATURE WISE ADULT TOMORROW.
Maybe now she is dead, they will see how harsh their attitudes were and put it all away.

America is a clear example of pampered childhood... INDISCIPLINE is just as high as CREATIVITY... hence gay, lezbian and even all sorts of vices are learned from there.

THIS IS A LESSON FOR ALL.

Thanks for the compliment.

Yet we manage to have the strongest military in the world, landed humans on the moon, fought to liberate many countries, have a robust space program, have many of the worlds top tourist destinations, etc

dis is a serious issue oooooo... its confusing tho.. diaris god sha

Asidiq23:

You are exactly like one of those children in the post.
Oponu,must you talk If you don't have any better contribution

Did I mention you? Or is it ur aunt? WTF is ur problem?

Tritri:



Aberg yarn ooh brother..I dey surprise as everyone seems to have nice mother ...i cum dey wonder if na only me get worst mama..not really worst but her character get comma

U no dey sleep ni

EgunMogaji:


Thanks for the compliment.

Yet we manage to have the strongest military in the world, landed humans on the moon, fought to liberate many countries, have a robust space program, have many of the worlds top tourist destinations, etc

Na by like dat?

Those who had laid blame on the dead aunty are bunch of sick people. Judas was a disciple of Jesus but he later sold his Master. Peter was a disciple of Jesus - and for three times Jesus warned him that devil would used him yet, Peter denied his Master three times. One of the greatest tragedy in life his to be born sighted but to lack of insight - one thing is to be born another thing is to reborn yourself.
I know two families whose stories are similar to the above. Weeping over their dead mother, service of songs, wake keeping, burial, and big party after the burial will not unite them, it is Only God that can unite, and remove the bitterness in their DNA - if they Humble themselves and open their eyes.

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greatnaija01:
My dear your conclusion was very WRONG.... the whole concept of PARENT-CHILD relationships is Train UP a child in the way he should go and when he is older he won't depart from it
The story is a sad and pathetic one and am sorry for the death of the dear woman BUT Everything rises and falls on TRAINING.

In many home it is the father that is the disciplinarian but the MUM soft and can bend discipline to soothe her childrens' comfort
If they were TRAINED... I MEAN THE REAL AFRICAN TOUGH TRAINING...even if they were thugs outside... THEY WOULD DO EVERYTHING TO MAKE THEIR MUM HAPPY.

SOW GOOD DISCIPLINED TRAINING IN TO A CHILD TODAY AND YOU WILL REAP A MATURE WISE ADULT TOMORROW.
Maybe now she is dead, they will see how harsh their attitudes were and put it all away.

America is a clear example of pampered childhood... INDISCIPLINE is just as high as CREATIVITY... hence gay, lezbian and even all sorts of vices are learned from there.

THIS IS A LESSON FOR ALL.

[/s] I totally disagree. training your children in the way you deem right is not a guarantee that they would grow up to love you. There are many cases of children who grew up with good home training and turned out to be the opposite of the values and morals instilled in them. There are a lot of factors to it.
And secondly what's ur definition of the best way to train a child? Because every parent has his own way of parenting his kid - different strokes for different folks. In America we have our own way of disciplining our kids. Get ur facts right before posting or trying to smear the image of a country you flagrantly no nothing about.