biaframustcome:
Leave Ndigbo out of your Nigerian politics of poverty, disease, failure, corruption, robbery, illiteracy, underdevelopment, criminality, incompetence.

Yes we don't know how to play Nigerian politics

Lmao best post in this thread. Nigeria had her chance. It is a sinking ship, the best course of action is to get on a life boat and get away.

koropotopoto:
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of course we are of royal blood
we don't lick asss like yerobas
if that is what you called not being serious
go to hell
Igbos are lovers of freedom and industrious.

those that keep playing that politics since Adam are they better than us in any aspect?
the north that is in power since God knows when are they better than us?
Southwest that are slave to the north despite everything are they doing better than igbos today

that proves that we don't need politics to survive?

declare a regional government today and see those who will be crying of starvation in Just one year
i hope that you know that osun has pensioners idp camp

Pentioners in IDP camp? Holyshit! This is extreme foul-mouthedness. Be guided son!

pazienza:


So the talk is nolonger about not building bridges with other Nigerian groups, it's now about building bridges with political parties other than PDP. Nice twist and shifting of goal posts
Let's see Nigerians in APC reward Okorocha and Ogbonnaya onu for the bridges they had built so far in APC, then we might reconsider APC.

So, you only pick and choose who, this and that political party to support?

We are not like you, is Okorocha not already a governor under APC regardless of your hate and anti APC noise so what reward are you taking about?



It's not only up to APC to select and support any man or woman for any position, it's​ also up to you to support and campaign for them, unlike the hate, bigotry and bitterness you threw at Ngige , your own brother just because he ran under APC.

And talking about reward, APC did not leave him hanging because he was rewarded with federal position, a Minister of the federal republic of Nigeria.


APC is doing their own part for your people, the question is what are you doing to help your own people apart from hate and bitterness.

Shawnnn01:


All these because a Yoruba is at the helm. What happened to the times Igbo formed alliances with the north to rule Nigeria ? Did you see the Yoruba whine up n down. Like one person said imagine if it was the Igbo that lost Abiola n his mandate Nigeria will be undergoing another civil war by now. Stop the victim mentality, it is annoying.

Besides whipping up sentiments you havent said anything logical or sensible about my post. Just the usual brainless anti-igbo hate that we truly dont give a rat's crap about to be honest

deomelo:


So, you only pick and choose who, this and that political party to support?

We are not like you, is Okorocha not already a governor under APC regardless of your hate and anti APC noise so what reward are you taking about?



It's not only up to APC to select and support any man or woman for any position, it's​ also up to you to support and campaign for them, unlike the hate, bigotry and bitterness you threw at Ngige , your own brother just because he ran under APC.

And talking about reward, APC did not leave him hanging because he was rewarded with federal position, a Minister of the federal republic of Nigeria.


APC is doing their own part for your people, the question is what are you doing to help your own people apart from hate and bitterness.

How is Okorocha being a governor of Imo state a reward from APC, are you well at all?

No. It's up to APC to prove to us their credentials by providing equal appointments and allocations to Igboland states already under APC in the East, the onus is on them to prove to us how supporting them will be different from us supporting PDP, and so far, considering Okorocha lamentations we already know the answer to that question.

If it's about immediate appointments to party men, no matter how peripheral the appointment might be and not meaningfula infrastructural development and representation of Ndiigbo in relevant appointments and federal government schemes, then APC is no different from PDP, I'd even say that PDP was better, as Igbo party men there got juicier portfolios than APC is currently offering Igbos in their midst.

Dedetwo:


It appears some crappy imaginations tend to run certain folks out of social decorum. Ndigbo are not minority and never acted as one in Nigerian polity. Ndigbo have collectively chosen a political party regardless who latter becomes the presidential candidate of the party. When a Yoruba man became the presidential candidate of PDP, Ndigbo voted for the political party not necessarily for a Yoruba man. The same happened when a seemingly Ijo dude became the presidential candidate of PDP, again Ndigbo voted for the party not the man. Why are these silly comments of Igbo behaving like a minority did not surface when they overwhelmingly voted for PDP when a Yoruba dude was the flag bearer of the party? It must be recall that Yoruba did not even vote the Yoruba dude who was the flag bearer of the PDP. It appears that certain Igbo dudes hunger for the goofy president of the cesspit called Nigeria.

You had gotten no other choice then because the candidates of both PDP and APP/AD were Yorubas - Obasanjo and Falae.

deomelo:




You don discourage me even before finishing reading and enjoying your write-up.

The highlight says you are part of the problem since you are part of the victim and blame other people mentality.

I know for a fact that Nigerians don't hate you and it's the other way around.

Ibo people are all over Yorubaland living in peace, doing business and making money, raising families and so on.

Other Nigerians especially Yoruba people hating you is a reflection of your own hate, your state of mind and communal paranoia.

On the other hand, the only hate I see is Ibo people hating not only the rest of Nigeria but also their own Ibo people.

We see and read here every day how Anambra people abuse and treat Imo people like trash and so on.

Handle the hate within your own Ibo community first before facing other people with all that.

No one in Nigeria loves Igbos than Yorubas; immediately after the civil war and just like before it, Yorubas opened their land, farms, markets, towns, businesses, houses, free education, hospitals, etc. to Igbos so as to prosper and recover their losses during the war. Gains from their businesses and properties during the war were also returned to them. Many of them made millions and started developing East. There was a time in Ondo State that Igbo made up a very large number of Bursars, etc in the public institutions, You would never heard of them being sacked. God in His infinite mercies has been prospering Yorubas because of their good hearts. Awolowo did all he could to stop the catastrophe of the civil war but he was still being blamed by Igbos till today due to lies and their hatred that can't hold water.
The greatest Igbo man to me now is Nnamani; he was abused for charging his people to acquire education and be where decisions that would affect them are being made. Take for example, a single government policy or Hausa person below level 15 cader may bankrupt an Igbo billionaire importer when decisions not favouring him is made because his own people are not where decisions are being made.

IGBOS HAS NO FUTURE IN NIGEIRA THATS THE TRUTH , IT IS A FIGHT TO FINISH THIS TIME AROUND BIAFRA NO NOTHING .

pazienza:


How is Okorocha being a governor of Imo state a reward from APC, are you well at all?

No. It's up to APC to prove to us their credentials by providing equal appointments and allocations to Igboland states already under APC in the East, the onus is on them to prove to us how supporting them will be different from us supporting PDP, and so far, considering Okorocha lamentations we already know the answer to that question.

You mentioned reward so exactly how do you reward if not by creating political opportunities for them to run under the party banner, get elected, build political structures to allow them to even aim higher all the way to presidential level.

Would you have preferred the APC saying vote for us, but we won't allow any of your sons and daughters run under our banner for any political office because that goes with your narrative that other people hate you and doesn't give you opportunities

How dare you to even utter the phrase peripheral appointments when even after not voting for the party, APC still rightfully so gave the region federal appointments from Ministerial to agency directors, ambassadors and so on.

Saying APC should credential candidates from the region is you talking from both sides of your mouth and I/m not even sure if you yourself really understand your own pointless argument because APC credentialed candidates in the region to run under their banner, but the hateful and bigoted people in that region refused to vote for them.

All you do is demand and demand without putting your own skin in the game hence the OP's assertions. Nothing comes easy or handed to you for free. Do your own job before demanding same from other people.


.They credentialed Ngige right?...but what did you do, instead of voting for him, you refused to and even abused him and his part, but the party did not take any offence and they made him a federal minister regardless of your own ibo on ibo treachery.

Again, stop being an hypocrite and stop talking from both sides of your mouth.

And talking about allocation and how to prove they are different from the PDP. No, it is up to you to prove to yourself that you can be objective and not shortsighted when you vote for candidates. Was the PDP any different from the PDP you voted for since 1999? What have they done for you? Nothing.

IS 2nd NB built after decades of false promises by the PDP including jona swearing to send himself into exile if he did not build that bridge, but you still give the same PDP all your votes even though they failed you time after time, no bridge, no federal roads for any kind of presence.

...but today, federal roads in that region are under construction or rehabilitation, there is money on the table for 2nd NB.

If it's about immediate appointments to party men, no matter how peripheral the appointment might be and not meaningfula infrastructural development and representation of Ndiigbo in relevant appointments and federal government schemes, then APC is no different from PDP, I'd even say that PDP was better, as Igbo party men there got juicier portfolios than APC is currently offering Igbos in their midst.

Your problem is shortsightedness.

How do you gain maximum benefits from anything in life? You work for it, you put your skin in the game. You want to eat, but you don't want to work. It's called laziness and lazy mentality.

You want everything to be handed to you on a platter of gold while abusing and disrespecting the same person holding the platter of gold?

You have governors collecting taxes and allocations so ask them for infrastructures. Your local and elected officials are responsible for your basic welfare and infrastructures. Other states outside that region are commissioning projects everyday and not sitting around for the FG for anything thing, but not you people, you want daddy to brush your teeth for you, you want them to tie your shoes for you.

Face your governors and when election times comes, vote for APC candidates instead of denying them your votes, abusing or acting as if they are your enemies because even the ones they credentialed for you to vote for, you did not vote for them, instead you spewed ignorance and bigotry against them.


Cleanup your hands before demanding equity.

lx3as:


No one in Nigeria loves Igbos than Yorubas; immediately after the civil just like before it, Yorubas opened their land, farms, markets, towns, businesses, houses, free education, hospitals, etc. to Igbos so as to prosper and recover their losses during the war. Gains from their businesses and properties during the war were also returned to them. Many of them made millions and started developing East. There was a time in Ondo State that Igbo made up a very large number of Bursars, etc in the public institutions, You would never heard of them being sacked. God in His infinite mercies has been prospering Yorubas because of their good hearts. Awolowo did all he could to stop the catastrophe of the civil war but he was still being blamed by Igbos till today due to lies and their hatred that can't hold water.
The greatest Igbo man to me now is Nnamani; he was abused for charging his people to acquire education and be where decisions that would affect them are being made. Take for example, a single government policy or Hausa person below level 15 cader may bankrupt an Igbo billionaire importer when decisions not favouring him is made because his own people are not where decisions are being made.

Well said jare. They say people hate them when in fact they breath and eat hate and bitterness everyday.

Adding to your point.

Look at the case of abandon property. Every property and every kobo in Yorubaland was kept and returned to them after the war, but such is not the case elsewhere in Nigeria, even in the SS their own backyard.


Is it even possible to peacefully accommodate millions your people, give your sons and daughters government appointments and positions an still hate you at the same time?

It beats me why they love to demand from people what they themselves can not offer other people.

When Northerner killed an indigene of same Yenagoa they went begging. Ak 47 armed herdsmen are considered de facto members of the community more than unarmed Igbo traders.

www.pulse.ng/student/drug-dealer-fulani-man-shoots-bayelsa-youth-with-ak-47-over-failed-igbo-deal-id3551620.html

Their failure to fulfil their promise led to the invasion by the herdsmen whose continuous presence have made them de facto members of the communities in Okordia-Zarama.


A source quoted by Leadership said one of the Fulani herdsmen had visited one of the youth to receive the agreed items.


“On getting to the place, he did not meet the Ijaw boy and decided to cart away some items," the source said.
"When the Ijaw boy came back and was told what his Fulani friend did, he became angry.”
The shooting occurred after an altercation following the confiscation.


“We suspected that he decided to challenge the Fulani herdsman and insulted him over the decision to cart away items from his shop without waiting to hear from him on their business deal.

"The Fulani herdsman was alleged to have brought out an A.K 47 rifle and shot into the air to scare him. When he saw that the Ijaw boy was not scared, he shot him in the neck.”
Poilce say the youth is recuperating in the hospital.


This is not the first shooting of a local by Fulani herdsmen in Bayelsa .
In December 2013, a cement merchant in his early thirties, Ebamugha Akeni , was shot dead by some armed Fulani herdsmen along the lonely Odi-Trofani road.


"Yes we are aware of the Fulani herdsmen attack and death of a youth," the state Police Public Relations officer, Alex Akhigbe said after the killing.

Mynd44:

A lot of people dont really know what political alliances are so theu think it is just months to a major election, you try to forge something forgetting that if the person you are negotiating with senses that you dont have the numbers, they will simply railroad you. The alliances are key to having a strong negotiation point.

People assume that once you lose an election it is done but no, sometimes, you stay and do other things like helping others win other elections if not in the same local government then outside.

Look at Aregbesola, by population, Alimosho Local government is on top in Nigeria and guess the most popular poitician there is the Osun state governor. This is a local government where the election of the state is not decided until you see the result (unless it is Fashola's second term and you are contesting against a weak Ade Dosumu). That is spreading your influence.

There is a huge political war in Ogun state for 2019 right now as YAYI(this guy is the one representing me in the senate) allegedly wants to be governor in 2019. Now while that is not news, the news is that the state governor Amosun is losing grounds within the APC to YAYI and it scares the governor but guess what? YAYI does not actually make noise in Ogun state.

I have a friend who is a ward chairman(Amosun's camp) in Ogun and everytime he tells me that their camp is depelting by the second as serious alliances are being called up alliances drawn up in 2002 and 2011 are being used to beat them and even party members are just showing up to Amosun to but not with him.

That is what alliance does for you. You can forge one and not use it in 7 years but you need to have them

You know what ? I am in Abeokuta as we speak and what you heard about Yayi's growing clout in Ogun state politics is nothing but the truth.

Amosun is feeling the heat like never before and now can't even trust anyone from his crew anymore. Now he's trying to enter into alliances with the likes GNI, Adebutu Lado, Paseda and other opposition figures because of what Yayi is dishing out to him. Wards executives are been changed on daily basis and our gomina is getting more confused. But I still can't see Yayi clinching the APC ticket sha because he will be rigged out.

EmeritusMbaM:


Why cant you pass your message without insulting other tribes. Must you denigrate others? Grow up

looks like this mental is back home,back2 ewa phorum

Afam4eva:
You know, this is actually one of the worst times to be an Igbo man as far as being part of the Nigerian entity is concerned. We know that since the end of the civil war the hate for the Igbo man has been engraved in the minds of the average Nigerian, from the west to the North and even to the South-south. Though the Igbos did a pretty good job despite the adversities by pulling themselves out of the rubble and from 1999, we started to enjoy some level of prosperity politically, even though i feel it wasn't enough considering the fact that we're part of the tripod upon which this nation was built. Atleast it was a good start.

However, a little more than a decade later, the Igbo nation is looking more like a conquered territory. Some people blame it on wrong political calculations and alliances while others blame it on the hate that the Nigerian state has had against people of Igbo extraction. I would blame it on the unwillingness of Igbos to play politics the Nigerian way.

It has come a time that we need to forego the emotions of the civil war and solidarity with any group and play politics the way the Northerners play or atleast, go the route of the Yorubas. These people have mastered the idiosyncrasies that is Nigeria and have seized the moment to put themselves at a stage that will benefit them. It seems the Igbos are the only majority group that have failed and looking like a minority group by the day. Instead of deceiving ourselves by concocting spiritual alliances with a region known as the south-south or Niger Delta or whatever they want to call themselves these days, our alliances should face westwards and to the north. The people from the south-south are the most ungrateful humans ever to walk this part of the world. How can one explain that a group as big as the Igbo race put all their eggs in one basket for a man known as Goodluck Jonathan who wasn't even an Igbo man and as soon as he lost, his people started throwing abuses at us.

The first mistake you don't make in politics is to bring yourself down to align with minorities except it's for your own interest. It's high time we stopped being emotional and moved with the tide and align with satan if need be because contrary to what a lot of Igbos may think, we're no saints and nobody is looking for a saint in Nigeria. As long as you're crooked but appear friendly, people will respect you.

Op, we Yoruba's don't hate the Igbo people, I'm not sure of others though. The problem of Igbo's within the Nigerian context is inferiority complex. The Igboman thinks if his kinsmen are not heading the Federal Government, he is a second class citizen. He also believe that if his kinsman is not elected a governor in states other than their own, he is therefore a second d class citizen. This line of the thinking should stop.

Igbo's don't pay enough attention to the developments of their home states like other Nigerians are doing. The resulting underdevelopment of the Southeast region as a result of general neglect by southeasters is a major reason why they are not proud to be Nigerians.

Unfortunately, Igbo's blame everybody else except themselves for the par!ous state of things over there.

ozowarac:
IGBOS HAS NO FUTURE IN NIGEIRA THATS THE TRUTH , IT IS A FIGHT TO FINISH THIS TIME AROUND BIAFRA NO NOTHING .

This is the mentality that is keeping you people backward.

Nigeria is never going to break -up OK. Get that into your dumb skull.

There will never be a Biafra. NEVER!!!!

rlauncher:


Op, we Yoruba's don't hate the Igbo people, I'm not sure of others though. The problem of Igbo's within the Nigerian context is inferiority complex. The Igboman thinks if his kinsmen are not heading the Federal Government, he is a second class citizen. He also believe that if his kinsman is not elected a governor in states other than their own, he is therefore a second d class citizen. This line of the thinking should stop.

Igbo's don't pay enough attention to the developments of their home states like other Nigerians are doing. The resulting underdevelopment of the Southeast region as a result of general neglect by southeasters is a major reason why they are not proud to be Nigerians.

Unfortunately, Igbo's blame everybody else except themselves for the par!ous state of things over there.

100% Correct.

rlauncher:


Op, we Yoruba's don't hate the Igbo people, I'm not sure of others though. The problem of Igbo's within the Nigerian context is inferiority complex. The Igboman thinks if his kinsmen are not heading the Federal Government, he is a second class citizen. He also believe that if his kinsman is not elected a governor in states other than their own, he is therefore a second d class citizen. This line of the thinking should stop.

Igbo's don't pay enough attention to the developments of their home states like other Nigerians are doing. The resulting underdevelopment of the Southeast region as a result of general neglect by southeasters is a major reason why they are not proud to be Nigerians.

Unfortunately, Igbo's blame everybody else except themselves for the par!ous state of things over there.

You are wrong. That Igbos were employed by PDP as their strategy for destabilizing Nigeria to make Buhari fail doesn't mean it's an ethnic thing or Igboland is underdeveloped compared with other parts of Nigeria. Igboland is probably the most developed but there is population pressure amidst limited resources which led to outward migration. Igbo population has been underestimated from time with it's resultant low allocation from federation account. The long term effects is gradual migration to places with more resources and less population of which the equilibrium has now been achieved and Igbos are no more migrating outwards but inwards as at 2016/2017.

Justiceleague1:


looks like this mental is back home,back2 ewa phorum

Cowardice runs in your blood, keep crying to the mods and reporting everyone like a primary school pupil, uno kuku get shame.

OP- Don't be naive. What is Nigerian politics? Ol boy you are nyamiri and omo ibo to the northerners and the yorubas respectively. Sanusi, the current Emir of Kano stated clearly that the north and yorubas elite have always conspired to keep you (Igbo) out of the mainstream. You know the article or should paste it again for you Northerners hold the ace given them by the British and yorubas are their preferred servants in the game. C'est la vie

Who was the most qualified man for the job of president in 1999 in PDP? Alex Ekwueme. What happened? Hausa elite brought a yoruba stooge called Obasanjo and used billions of naira to foist him on Nigeria. I can go on and on. I dont have hope in Nigeria, fire burn Nigerian poltics, I want an autonomous region or my own country. Shikena

deomelo:




You mentioned reward so exactly how do you reward if not by creating political opportunities for them to run under the party banner, get elected, build political structures to allow them to even aim higher all the way to presidential level.

Would you have preferred the APC saying vote for us, but we won't allow any of your sons and daughters run under our banner for any political office because that goes with your narrative that other people hate you and doesn't give you opportunities

How dare you to even utter the phrase peripheral appointments when even after not voting for the party, APC still rightfully so gave the region federal appointments from Ministerial to agency directors, ambassadors and so on.

Saying APC should credential candidates from the region is you talking from both sides of your mouth and I/m not even sure if you yourself really understand your own pointless argument because APC credentialed candidates in the region to run under their banner, but the hateful and bigoted people in that region refused to vote for them.

All you do is demand and demand without putting your own skin in the game hence the OP's assertions. Nothing comes easy or handed to you for free. Do your own job before demanding same from other people.


.They credentialed Ngige right?...but what did you do, instead of voting for him, you refused to and even abused him and his part, but the party did not take any offence and they made him a federal minister regardless of your own ibo on ibo treachery.

Again, stop being an hypocrite and stop talking from both sides of your mouth.

And talking about allocation and how to prove they are different from the PDP. No, it is up to you to prove to yourself that you can be objective and not shortsighted when you vote for candidates. Was the PDP any different from the PDP you voted for since 1999? What have they done for you? Nothing.

IS 2nd NB built after decades of false promises by the PDP including jona swearing to send himself into exile if he did not build that bridge, but you still give the same PDP all your votes even though they failed you time after time, no bridge, no federal roads for any kind of presence.

...but today, federal roads in that region are under construction or rehabilitation, there is money on the table for 2nd NB.






Your problem is shortsightedness.

How do you gain maximum benefits from anything in life? You work for it, you put your skin in the game. You want to eat, but you don't want to work. It's called laziness and lazy mentality.

You want everything to be handed to you on a platter of gold while abusing and disrespecting the same person holding the platter of gold?

You have governors collecting taxes and allocations so ask them for infrastructures. Your local and elected officials are responsible for your basic welfare and infrastructures. Other states outside that region are commissioning projects everyday and not sitting around for the FG for anything thing, but not you people, you want daddy to brush your teeth for you, you want them to tie your shoes for you.

Face your governors and when election times comes, vote for APC candidates instead of denying them your votes, abusing or acting as if they are your enemies because even the ones they credentialed for you to vote for, you did not vote for them, instead you spewed ignorance and bigotry against them.


Cleanup your hands before demanding equity.

Verbose post bereft of substance.

1. Okorocha was already a governor under APGA before he joined APC, he didn't need APC to be or remain Imo governor, APC needed him to have a foothold in Igboland.

2. This discussion was all about Ethnic politics, not about party politics, it was you who derailed it to party politics. An Igbo man was Buhari VP twice before a Yoruba became twice, so this your narrative of Igbos not playing party politics was BID.
3. Yes, considering the votes APC got in Imo state at state level, Imo has been treated same as every other SE state, how dare you demand for more votes from Ndiigbo?
SE only got appointments that the constitution made impossible for her to be deprived of, even the proposed infrastructural loan had SE totally bypassed, not even Imo was included, same with SME loans. https://www.nairaland.com/3434857/federal-government-leaves-out-south
https://www.nairaland.com/3603916/south-east-missing-fgs-loans

4. APC has proven itself to be an anti Igbo party that is totally out to marginalize Ndiigbo, even mallam Okorocha acknowledged this, https://www.google.com.ng/amp/www.vanguardngr.com/2017/02/despite-efforts-nothing-show-seast-part-nigeria-okorocha/amp/

So, the people were right in rejecting APC from the start, APC had proven us right.

5.Exactly, at least we agree on this. PDP or APC, Ndiigbo would continue to be marginalized by Nigerians and denied of big sensitive posts, presidency included, this has nothing to do with party or Igbos not building bridges, cos no Nigerian group had built more political bridge since the return of democracy in 1999.
Telling us to leave PDP for APC, is silly, as APC is no different from PDP.

6.2nd Niger bridge and Igboland roads werent built by Yoruba ( OBJ) , Arewa ( Yaradua), SS minority ( GEJ) presidents under PDP, and as we have seen, it's still not going to be built by an Arewa ( Buhari) president under APC. The issue is beyond party politics.

7. No group had worked more than Ndiigbo in building bridges with Nigerian groups, Okorocha is currently a pariah in the East for reaching out to APC, where is the reward for him and Imo state? Totally schemed out in key appointments and infrastructures/ developmental grants. You have no point.


8. SE governors are commissioning projects too, we are not just into propaganda like some people, Enugu was slowly built up into a standard city rated higher than all cities in SW by Resilient city international, despite Awolowo hijacking the funds meant for Eastern region rehabilitation after the war, and diverting it to SW, yet no one noticed when those developmental strides took place, because we are silent achievers.
FG had sited little or no major project in the past in SE, and Buhari continued in the pattern when he attempted to totally lock SE out in the proposed infrastructural loans, other regions can't be enjoying FG patronage, and you inspect SE not to demand such because you ignorantly believe our local leaders are not doing enough , you would be demonic for pursuing such line of thought, as there is nothing on ground to show that SW or any other Nigeria region leaders are outdoing those of SE in infrastructural development.


What we do with our allocations is none of your business, it's no justification for you to think you can conviniently starve us of our entitlements, your leaders haven't in any way done better than SE leaders that had the daunting task of rebuilding a war ravaged SE without any special funds or intervention by FG, as such funds were hijacked by enemies of progress and diverted to building the same Lagos peeps won't allow us hear word about today. I'd suggest you focus more on your failed leaders and less on Igbo leaders.

God will bless you in the open for this write-up.

sarrki:



God is my witness I read this 3x

God bless you sire

pazienza:


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1. Okorocha was already a governor under APGA before he joined APC, he didn't need APC to be or remain Imo governor, APC needed him to have a foothold in Igboland.

So, he just ran under the APC without the APC sanctioning his candidacy.

If he did not need APC, then why bother joining the APC instead of remaining with AGPA and whatever foothold you are talking about.

He obviously joined the APC because he say good future and opportunities that AGPA and PDP doesn't offer.

You need to leave sentiments alone and deal with realities and facts.

2. This discussion was all about Ethnic politics, not about party politics, it was you who derailed it to party politics. An Igbo man was Buhari VP twice before a Yoruba became twice, so this your narrative of Igbos not playing party politics was BID.

3. Yes, considering the votes APC got in Imo state at state level, Imo has been treated same as every other SE state, how dare you demand for more votes from Ndiigbo?
SE only got appointments that the constitution made impossible for her to be deprived of, even the proposed infrastructural loan had SE totally bypassed, not even Imo was included, same with SME loans. https://www.nairaland.com/3434857/federal-government-leaves-out-south

4. APC has proven itself to be an anti Igbo party that is totally out to marginalize Ndiigbo, even mallam Okorocha acknowledged this, https://www.google.com.ng/amp/www.vanguardngr.com/2017/02/despite-efforts-nothing-show-seast-part-nigeria-okorocha/amp/

So, the people were right in rejecting APC from the start, APC had proven us right.

Sorry, I don't recognize that newspaper as a credible news media.

Even calling the man mallam is another example of the insults, hatred and bigotry you people throw at each other in that region.

Very sad.

5.Exactly, at least we agree on this. PDP or APC, Ndiigbo would continue to be marginalized by Nigerians and denied of big sensitive posts, presidency included, this has nothing to do with party or Igbos not building bridges, cos no Nigerian group had built more political bridge since the return of democracy in 1999.

Telling us to leave PDP for APC, is silly, as APC is no different from PDP.

The only bridge you built and have been building is with the PDP and you are still crying even though you've gained nothing from the PDP.

I don't even get your PDP/APC excuse. Shebi AGPA is your own local and regional political party? Please tell us why you did not present any candidate for president and instead outsourced it to the PDP.

Fact is, you are PDP from top to bottom.

ACN was SW regional party, but they formed alliance with groups and parties outside their region to win the presidency.

What political party or groups outside the SE have you joined to achieve your goals? None, I mean none. All you do is sit right there in your region and cry marginalization when in fact you are the one marginalizing yourself.

6.2nd Niger bridge and Igboland roads werent built by Yoruba ( OBJ) , Arewa ( Yaradua), SS minority ( GEJ) presidents under PDP, and as we have seen, it's still not going to be built by an Arewa ( Buhari) president under APC. The issue is beyond party politics.

You really should be ashamed if after 16 years of following and give almost 100% your votes to a political party and still end up with nothing.

And you have no reasonable or any moral right to opine that a barely 2 year old government won't do what your 16 years worthless PDP couldn't do.

We know about the past and you can not tell us anything about the future and besides, there is money on the table for the bridge so you miss road on that one.

7. No group had worked more than Ndiigbo in building bridges with Nigerian groups, Okorocha is currently a pariah in the East for reaching out to APC, where is the reward for him and Imo state? Totally schemed out in key appointments and infrastructures/ developmental grants. You have no point.

The only bridge you build is called hatred and bigotry, same you are displaying in this thread even against your own people.

Last I checked, Fashola just commissioned 100 unit housing estate in Imo.

Abeg show us the one the PDP commissioned.

8. SE governors are commissioning projects too, we are not just into propaganda like some people

Stop spewing what you can not prove with facts. Show us the projects of lay off that claim because we know it's all lies.


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Enugu was slowly built up into a standard city rated higher than all cities in SW by Resilient city international, despite Awolowo hijacking the funds meant for Eastern region rehabilitation after the war, and diverting it to SW, yet no one noticed when those developmental strides took place, because we are silent achievers.

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Empty and shallow chest beating bore me.

All you people do is lie and boast with rubbish that you can not show us. Are they starting and commissioning the projects on MARS?

FG had sited little or no major project in the past in SE, and Buhari continued in the pattern when he attempted to totally lock SE out in the proposed infrastructural loans, other regions can't be enjoying FG patronage, and you inspect SE not to demand such because you ignorantly believe our local leaders are not doing enough , you would be a demonic for pursuing such line of thought, as there is nothing on ground to show that SW or any other Nigeria region leaders are outdoing those of SE in infrastructural development.

What we do with our allocations is known of your business, it's no justification for you to think you can conviniently starve us of our entitlements.

Just another ignorant babbles. Stay in your region with your PDP and tribal politics while the rest of the world carry on with progress and development,

nku5:


Besides whipping up sentiments you havent said anything logical or sensible about my post. Just the usual brainless anti-igbo hate that we truly dont give a rat's crap about to be honest

What is bad in hating Igbos?? Who do you love ?

pazienza:


Verbose post bereft of substance.

1. Okorocha was already a governor under APGA before he joined APC, he didn't need APC to be or remain Imo governor, APC needed him to have a foothold in Igboland.

2. This discussion was all about Ethnic politics, not about party politics, it was you who derailed it to party politics. An Igbo man was Buhari VP twice before a Yoruba became twice, so this your narrative of Igbos not playing party politics was BID.
3. Yes, considering the votes APC got in Imo state at state level, Imo has been treated same as every other SE state, how dare you demand for more votes from Ndiigbo?
SE only got appointments that the constitution made impossible for her to be deprived of, even the proposed infrastructural loan had SE totally bypassed, not even Imo was included, same with SME loans. https://www.nairaland.com/3434857/federal-government-leaves-out-south
https://www.nairaland.com/3603916/south-east-missing-fgs-loans

4. APC has proven itself to be an anti Igbo party that is totally out to marginalize Ndiigbo, even mallam Okorocha acknowledged this, https://www.google.com.ng/amp/www.vanguardngr.com/2017/02/despite-efforts-nothing-show-seast-part-nigeria-okorocha/amp/

So, the people were right in rejecting APC from the start, APC had proven us right.

5.Exactly, at least we agree on this. PDP or APC, Ndiigbo would continue to be marginalized by Nigerians and denied of big sensitive posts, presidency included, this has nothing to do with party or Igbos not building bridges, cos no Nigerian group had built more political bridge since the return of democracy in 1999.
Telling us to leave PDP for APC, is silly, as APC is no different from PDP.

6.2nd Niger bridge and Igboland roads werent built by Yoruba ( OBJ) , Arewa ( Yaradua), SS minority ( GEJ) presidents under PDP, and as we have seen, it's still not going to be built by an Arewa ( Buhari) president under APC. The issue is beyond party politics.

7. No group had worked more than Ndiigbo in building bridges with Nigerian groups, Okorocha is currently a pariah in the East for reaching out to APC, where is the reward for him and Imo state? Totally schemed out in key appointments and infrastructures/ developmental grants. You have no point.


8. SE governors are commissioning projects too, we are not just into propaganda like some people, Enugu was slowly built up into a standard city rated higher than all cities in SW by Resilient city international, despite Awolowo hijacking the funds meant for Eastern region rehabilitation after the war, and diverting it to SW, yet no one noticed when those developmental strides took place, because we are silent achievers.
FG had sited little or no major project in the past in SE, and Buhari continued in the pattern when he attempted to totally lock SE out in the proposed infrastructural loans, other regions can't be enjoying FG patronage, and you inspect SE not to demand such because you ignorantly believe our local leaders are not doing enough , you would be a demonic for pursuing such line of thought, as there is nothing on ground to show that SW or any other Nigeria region leaders are outdoing those of SE in infrastructural development.


What we do with our allocations is none of your business, it's no justification for you to think you can conviniently starve us of our entitlements, your leaders haven't in any way done better than SE leaders that had the daunting task of rebuilding a war ravaged SE without any special funds or intervention by FG, as such funds were hijacked by enemies of progress and diverted to building the same Lagos peeps won't allow us hear word about today. I'd suggest you focus more on your failed leaders and less on Igbo leaders.

I am loyal sir.

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You mentioned reward so exactly how do you reward if not by creating political opportunities for them to run under the party banner, get elected, build political structures to allow them to even aim higher all the way to presidential level.

Would you have preferred the APC saying vote for us, but we won't allow any of your sons and daughters run under our banner for any political office because that goes with your narrative that other people hate you and doesn't give you opportunities

How dare you to even utter the phrase peripheral appointments when even after not voting for the party, APC still rightfully so gave the region federal appointments from Ministerial to agency directors, ambassadors and so on.

Saying APC should credential candidates from the region is you talking from both sides of your mouth and I/m not even sure if you yourself really understand your own pointless argument because APC credentialed candidates in the region.MOST IGBOS ARE FOOLS

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What exactly is "nigerian politics" anyway?

Reading all the comments here, I can't believe we have intelligent people here on nairaland. I am so used to seeing afonja and Igbo.

This is one of the best thread I have seen in this politics section on nairaland. Nice submissions.

blues20:

I'll will concur to the fact that you are ignorant of the nebulous ethnic make up of the so called S'South.

Nebulous in what sense? That we have Edoid groups in Delta, Bayelsa, Rivers and Edo States, Igboid groups in Rivers and Delta States, Ijoid groups in Bayelsa, Edo, Delta, Rivers, and Akwa Ibom States, Yoruboid groups in Delta State, Ogonoid groups in Rivers, Ibiboid groups in Cross Rivers and Akwa Ibom, and Ekoid groups in Cross Rivers?


How are all these groups related? Apart from the Igboid minority of minorities in Delta and Rivers States, what connections do the other ethnic groups have with Igbos or the SE?

You guys should stop deceiving yourselves with the delusion of SS/SE. There is no such thing. Just because SE supported GEJ doesn't mean that there is now an unwritten political alignment between us. We have our struggles which are TOTALLY DIFFERENT from that of the Igbo cause. Stop playing an unwanted "big brother" by dragging uninterested people into your aspirations.

South-South has come to stay as a geo-political identity in Nigeria. It is a conurbation of groups in the former Western/Mid-West and Eastern Regions and we have come to accept our minority identity. Our coalition is between ourselves ALONE and we understand our struggles. Igbos/SE should identify and fight for theirs ALONE!

fratermathy:


Nebulous in what sense? That we have Edoid groups in Delta, Bayelsa, Rivers and Edo States, Igboid groups in Rivers and Delta States, Ijoid groups in Bayelsa, Edo, Delta, Rivers, and Akwa Ibom States, Yoruboid groups in Delta State, Ogonoid groups in Rivers, Ibiboid groups in Cross Rivers and Akwa Ibom, and Ekoid groups in Cross Rivers?


How are all these groups related? Apart from the Igboid minority of minorities in Delta and Rivers States, what connections do the other ethnic groups have with Igbos or the SE?

You guys should stop deceiving yourselves with the delusion of SS/SE. There is no such thing. Just because SE supported GEJ doesn't mean that there is now an unwritten political alignment between us. We have our struggles which are TOTALLY DIFFERENT from that of the Igbo cause. Stop playing an unwanted "big brother" by dragging uninterested people into your aspirations.

South-South has come to stay as a geo-political identity in Nigeria. It is a conurbation of groups in the former Western/Mid-West and Eastern Regions and we have come to accept our minority identity. Our coalition is between ourselves ALONE and we understand our struggles. Igbos/SE should identify and fight for theirs ALONE!

And who is this OUR you speak of? Who made you and your group the spokespersons for SS? Where exactly was the rule written that your minority group can speak for SS, while Igbos in SS can't do the same?

Can't you see your are roaming already?

You are the minority amongst minorities, not the Igbo group who are already a majority.

Next time when you go on your psychopathic Igbophobic rants, endeavor to keep SS out of it, and use just your small Urhobo, as you can't be speaking for Enuani, Egbema, Isobo, Ndoki, Asa , Etche people in SS who together outnumber your small minority amongst minorities Urhobos.

Ekinematics:



I know my enemies.
The parasites called NW, NE, NC, SE and the SW.
These are all our enemies.

Thank you for this!

South Easterners often tag SSners along in the "our oyel" mentality as if they are any better than the North they so much love to hate for being leeches. Every region in Nigeria that depends on SS crude is a leech, a parasite, a tick, etc, and the SE is at the forefront of it all.

deomelo:



So, he just ran under the APC without the APC sanctioning his candidacy.

If he did not need APC, then why bother joining the APC instead of remaining with AGPA and whatever foothold you are talking about.

He obviously joined the APC because he say good future and opportunities that AGPA and PDP doesn't offer.

You need to leave sentiments alone and deal with realities and facts.





3. Yes, considering the votes APC got in Imo state at state level, Imo has been treated same as every other SE state, how dare you demand for more votes from Ndiigbo?
SE only got appointments that the constitution made impossible for her to be deprived of, even the proposed infrastructural loan had SE totally bypassed, not even Imo was included, same with SME loans. https://www.nairaland.com/3434857/federal-government-leaves-out-south


Sorry, I don't recognize that newspaper as a credible news media.

Even calling the man mallam is another example of the insults, hatred and bigotry you people throw at each other in that region.

Very sad.



The only bridge you built and have been building is with the PDP and you are still crying even though you've gained nothing from the PDP.

I don't even get your PDP/APC excuse. Shebi AGPA is your own local and regional political party? Please tell us why you did not present any candidate for president and instead outsourced it to the PDP.

Fact is, you are PDP from top to bottom.

ACN was SW regional party, but they formed alliance with groups and parties outside their region to win the presidency.

What political party or groups outside the SE have you joined to achieve your goals? None, I mean none. All you do is sit right there in your region and cry marginalization when in fact you are the one marginalizing yourself.





You really should be ashamed if after 16 years of following and give almost 100% your votes to a political party and still end up with nothing.

And you have no reasonable or any moral right to opine that a barely 2 year old government won't do what your 16 years worthless PDP couldn't do.

We know about the past and you can not tell us anything about the future and besides, there is money on the table for the bridge so you miss road on that one.






The only bridge you build is called hatred and bigotry, same you are displaying in this thread even against your own people.

Last I checked, Fashola just commissioned 100 unit housing estate in Imo.

Abeg show us the one the PDP commissioned.




Stop spewing what you can not prove with facts. Show us the projects of lay off that claim because we know it's all lies.


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Empty and shallow chest beating bore me.

All you people do is lie and boast with rubbish that you can not show us. Are they starting and commissioning the projects on MARS?





Just another ignorant babbles. Stay in your region with your PDP and tribal politics while the rest of the world carry on with progress and development,

1. You need brain transplant surgery, he didn't join APC to win Imo, he already had Imo in his pocket, he joined APC because of promise of being part of the national cake, basically the same reason you lots are dangling as the reason we should join APC, but as we can see, Okorocha servitude to APC has not yielded any national cake for him or Imo state, both him and his state had been schemed out of every national cake worth sharing by same Igbophobic elements found all over Nigeria, be it PDP or APC.
The above lends credence to the fact that the Igbo problem transcends beyond political parties, it's ethnic.

2.
Well, how about this particular link
https://www.google.com.ng/amp/www.vanguardngr.com/2017/02/despite-efforts-nothing-show-seast-part-nigeria-okorocha/amp/

Credible enough for you?

The truth remains that Okorocha just realized what the rest of us already knew. Association or bridge building by any Igbo man or groups with any Nigerian group or groups would change next to nothing, we have been there and back with many political parties in the past, and most political parties in Nigeria consists of same people. Many previous PDP elements are today APC staunch men.

3. I can't make head or tail of what you are blabbing about here. So I would ignore them as rantings of a roaming man.

4. So, a 100 unit bungalow housing project that about 22,000 of it had already been constructed in other parts of Nigeria is the only thing Okorocha and Imo people have to show for their support for APC? Lol