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Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by badoh(m): 6:35pm On May 21, 2017
Good day,
kindly enlighten me on the more superior position between Chief of defense staff and Chief of Army staff in the Nigeria settings.
It seems the Chief of Defence staff do not get much public attention compared to the Chief of Army staff .
What are the expected roles of the two Military Chiefs?

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by dingbang(m): 6:38pm On May 21, 2017
Because the CDC is not corrupt like the COAS that's why he doesn't get much public attention...

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by vickylincon(m): 6:43pm On May 21, 2017
dingbang:
Because the CDC is not corrupt like the COAS that's why he doesn't get much public attention...


wehdone. someone is asking a constitutional question, all you could think of is corruption. So, if your students asked you; that's the answer u will give them. To the question, chief of defence is like the coordinator for all the service chief. he has more powers

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Crocky23: 6:44pm On May 21, 2017
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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by UAE123(m): 6:46pm On May 21, 2017
The Chief of Defence Staff control the 3 members of the armed forces which are the Army,Navy & Air force because their heads report to him & it is his constitutional duty to oversee all of them & give direction where necessary but the Chief of Army Staff only control the Army.

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by dingbang(m): 6:46pm On May 21, 2017
vickylincon:
wehdone. someone is asking a constitutional question, all you could think of is corruption. So, if your students asked you; that's the answer u will give them. To the question, chief of defence is like the coordinator for all the service chief. he has more powers
my friend get lost from my radar.. My phone..my comments

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Babanah: 6:49pm On May 21, 2017
The COAS has operational control over the army but whenever there is a joint exercise between the army, navy and Air Force the CDC take operational control.

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by ShobayoEmma(m): 7:09pm On May 21, 2017
Ofcourse it is the Chief of Defence staff but because the marginalization is real, technically now makes Buratai to be the ....

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 7:33pm On May 21, 2017
Administratively, the CDS oversee the activities of the COAS, CAS and CNS. But operationally, the CDS is "just there" while the COAS controls the ground troops and the entire Army.

However, CDS only take charge during "joint" operations, which is rare.
Also, though the CDS has Administrative supervision over the COAS, he CANNOT tell the COAS what to do at any given time. Only the C-in-C enjoy such power. All Service Chiefs brief the C-in-C irrespective of their title.

The COAS by virtue of the control he has, is more powerful and influential within the army than the CDS. The COAS is more dangerous too.

Hence, a C-in-C could make anybody CDS but the COAS is usually a TRUSTED general.

@OP The COAS na him be d koko

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by kolafolabi(m): 8:52pm On May 21, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:
Administratively, the CDS oversee the activities of the COAS, CAS and CNS. But operationally, the CDS is "just there" while the COAS controls the ground troops and the entire Army.

However, CDS only take charge during "joint" operations, which is rare.
Also, though the CDS has Administrative supervision over the COAS, he CANNOT tell the COAS what to do at any given time. Only the C-in-C enjoy such power. All Service Chiefs brief the C-in-C irrespective of their title.

The COAS by virtue of the control he has, is more powerful and influential within the army than the CDS. The COAS is more dangerous too.

Hence, a C-in-C could make anybody CDS but the COAS is usually a TRUSTED general.

@OP The COAS na him be d koko

Well clarified... Nice one

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by bedspread: 9:11pm On May 21, 2017
CDS IS SENIOR IN RANK

BUT THE CDS NA CEREMONIAL POST

CAS COMMANDS MORE TROOP.

IN THE REAL SENSE PMB WILL RATHER KEEP BURATAI AS CAS THAN MAKE HIM CDS

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Histrings08(m): 9:31pm On May 21, 2017
Chief of defence of course.... Buh Nigerian chief of army Staff have over d years grown too powerful

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by WilliamsNedd: 10:33pm On May 21, 2017
Missionary position I guess or reverse cowgirl. undecided

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 11:26pm On May 21, 2017
Histrings08:
Chief of defence of course.... Buh Nigerian chief of army Staff have over d years grown too powerful
All over the world the army chief is more powerful than the defence chief within yje Army.

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by BabaRamota1980: 11:57pm On May 21, 2017
The Defense Chief is in charge of budgetary allocation to the Chief of Army, Air, Naval.

No military formation from any Service deploys without first briefing and getting approval from Defense Chief.

Service Chiefs own operations and missions but Defense Chief is accountable, wheter good or bad.

Defense Chief is sitting at the top of the heirarchy and all military infrastructures and assets of a country are under his management.

Defense Chief work on political, diplomatic, legal, cultural, mercantile and military interests and his office is supported by staffs specialized to give advisory in these fields of international engagement.


Which do you think is superior?

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by BabaRamota1980: 12:03am On May 22, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:
Administratively, the CDS oversee the activities of the COAS, CAS and CNS. But operationally, the CDS is "just there" while the COAS controls the ground troops and the entire Army.

However, CDS only take charge during "joint" operations, which is rare.
Also, though the CDS has Administrative supervision over the COAS, he CANNOT tell the COAS what to do at any given time. Only the C-in-C enjoy such power. All Service Chiefs brief the C-in-C irrespective of their title.

The COAS by virtue of the control he has, is more powerful and influential within the army than the CDS. The COAS is more dangerous too.

Hence, a C-in-C could make anybody CDS but the COAS is usually a TRUSTED general.

@OP The COAS na him be d koko

The question is not on power but superiority.

Power is synonymous with territorial or followership and coverage of influence.

Superiority is synonymous with class, rank, heirarchy.

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by AK481(m): 12:24am On May 22, 2017
CDs is mere figure head.
Coas is executive head.

Just like the chairman of a bank vs the gmd of a bank.


Gowon vs ogundipe when ironsi was eliminated.
Smh..ogundipe had to run to London,despite ojukwu assurance that The Whole Igbo(who would soon be known as biafran soldiers) and Midwest troops will back him up,since he is next in line.gowon corked his riffle and fired some shot,ogundipe just like his today's children ran to London to be a mere ambassador .


The cds has no infantry loyal to him and cannot even mobilize a unit to quell any insuration that the coas support.

Cds is a nonsense post. That's why it Bubu gave it to yorubas,the actions happens @ the desk of coas.

"One more thing,the coas brief and receives orders directly from the c in c"

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by lenghtinny(m): 1:13am On May 22, 2017
The chief of defense staff is the man behind the curtain....

The CDS is superior

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Nobody: 1:26am On May 22, 2017
lenghtinny:
The chief of defense staff is the man behind the curtain....

The CDS is superior


Simple logic

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by tdayof(m): 5:20am On May 22, 2017
bedspread:
CDS IS SENIOR IN RANK

BUT THE CDS NA CEREMONIAL POST

CAS COMMANDS MORE TROOP.

IN THE REAL SENSE PMB WILL RATHER KEEP BURATAI AS CAS THAN MAKE HIM CDS

The Chief of Defence Staff is the highest ranking military officer of the Nigerian Armed Forces. It is occupied by the most senior commissioned officer appointed by the President, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Nigeria. The position was established for the first time under Nigeria's 1979 constitution.

The Chief of Defence Staff reports to the commander-in-Chief with administrative supervision of the Honourable Minister of Defence. It is the duty and responsibility of the CDS to formulate and execute policies, programmes towards the highest attainment of National Security and operational competence of the Armed Forces namely; the Army, Navy and Air Force. The CDS is assisted by the other Service Chiefs.


The chief of defense commands all troops under any of the armed forces while the COAS only has authority on men of the Nigerian army.

To you all saying the CDS cannot mobilize a unit from the army, I hope you know the most feared unit of the Nigerian armed forces after the Navy SBS is the AFSF (comprises of men from the Navy, Airforce, and Army) which is under the ONSA. These guys will answer to the CDS during an emergency as they are being funded by the ONSA.

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by emerged01(m): 5:54am On May 22, 2017
vickylincon:
wehdone. someone is asking a constitutional question, all you could think of is corruption. So, if your students asked you; that's the answer u will give them. To the question, chief of defence is like the coordinator for all the service chief. he has more powers

Just like that?

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Day169: 6:00am On May 22, 2017
The CDC is more empowered constitutionally as he oversees all of the armed forces in the country (both military and paramilitary).
On the other hand, historically, the army has almost solely been responsible for military incursions into government via coup d'etat (and mutiny). Hence the perceived superiority of the COAS!

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Jabioro: 6:13am On May 22, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:
Administratively, the CDS oversee the activities of the COAS, CAS and CNS. But operationally, the CDS is "just there" while the COAS controls the ground troops and the entire Army.

However, CDS only take charge during "joint" operations, which is rare.
Also, though the CDS has Administrative supervision over the COAS, he CANNOT tell the COAS what to do at any given time. Only the C-in-C enjoy such power. All Service Chiefs brief the C-in-C irrespective of their title.

The COAS by virtue of the control he has, is more powerful and influential within the army than the CDS. The COAS is more dangerous too.

Hence, a C-in-C could make anybody CDS but the COAS is usually a TRUSTED general.

@OP The COAS na him be d koko
The needed drugs has been administer here.. I would advice all these jumpae on nairaland to stick to it..

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by tdayof(m): 6:36am On May 22, 2017
AK481:
CDs is mere figure head.
Coas is executive head.

Just like the chairman of a bank vs the gmd of a bank.

The cds has no infantry loyal to him and cannot even mobilize a unit to quell any insuration that the coas support.

Cds is a nonsense post. That's why it Bubu gave it to yorubas,the actions happens @ the desk of coas.

"One more thing,the coas brief and receives orders directly from the c in c"


You just typed Bullshit. The CDS is a military man and a 4 Star general while the COAS is a lieutenant General. The CDS by his rank alone has power to mobilize guys from the Army and by his position as the CDS can mobilize from any of the Armed forces.

I wish civilians can stop interfering into military discussions if we know nothing about it.

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by bedspread: 7:06am On May 22, 2017
tdayof:


The Chief of Defence Staff is the highest ranking military officer of the Nigerian Armed Forces. It is occupied by the most senior commissioned officer appointed by the President, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Nigeria. The position was established for the first time under Nigeria's 1979 constitution.

The Chief of Defence Staff reports to the commander-in-Chief with administrative supervision of the Honourable Minister of Defence. It is the duty and responsibility of the CDS to formulate and execute policies, programmes towards the highest attainment of National Security and operational competence of the Armed Forces namely; the Army, Navy and Air Force. The CDS is assisted by the other Service Chiefs.


The chief of defense commands all troops under any of the armed forces while the COAS only has authority on men of the Nigerian army.
U ARE A JOKER..... HAVE U EVER THOUGHT WHY GEJ DIDNT TAKE AWAY GEN. IHEJIRIKA FROM THE COAS POST THROUGH OUT HIS TENURE??

THE CDS MIGHT BE SENIOR IN RANK TO THE COAS BUT THE POST OF THE COAS IS MORE SENSITIVE AND IMPORTANT THAN THE CDS.

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by bedspread: 7:10am On May 22, 2017
tdayof:



You just typed Bullshit. The CDS is a military man and a 4 Star general while the COAS is a lieutenant General. The CDS by his rank alone has power to mobilize guys from the Army and by his position as the CDS can mobilize from any of the Armed forces.

I wish civilians can stop interfering into military discussions if we know nothing about it.
BROS, CDS CANNOT MOBILIZE TROOPS WITHOUT THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE COAS.
THE COAS HAS THE TROOPS ON GROUND. THATS WHY HE CAN OPEN NEW FORMATIONS WHENEVER JUST LIKE BURATAI LAUNCHED IN KASTINA, PMB HOME TOWN..
CDS NA FIGURE HEAD POST.....

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Segadem(m): 7:22am On May 22, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:
Administratively, the CDS oversee the activities of the COAS, CAS and CNS. But operationally, the CDS is "just there" while the COAS controls the ground troops and the entire Army.

However, CDS only take charge during "joint" operations, which is rare.
Also, though the CDS has Administrative supervision over the COAS, he CANNOT tell the COAS what to do at any given time. Only the C-in-C enjoy such power. All Service Chiefs brief the C-in-C irrespective of their title.

The COAS by virtue of the control he has, is more powerful and influential within the army than the CDS. The COAS is more dangerous too.

Hence, a C-in-C could make anybody CDS but the COAS is usually a TRUSTED general.

@OP The COAS na him be d koko
Thanks

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Splashme: 7:25am On May 22, 2017
Ffg
Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by BlackMbakara1(m): 7:26am On May 22, 2017
Strategically the COAS is the strongest, while CDS administratively is the strongest.

COAS commands more loyalty, whereas CDS commands less...

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Segadem(m): 7:27am On May 22, 2017
tdayof:



You just typed Bullshit. The CDS is a military man and a 4 Star general while the COAS is a lieutenant General. The CDS by his rank alone has power to mobilize guys from the Army and by his position as the CDS can mobilize from any of the Armed forces.

I wish civilians can stop interfering into military discussions if we know nothing about it.
hmmmmm, I'm learning, but which of these two cheifs have power to plan coup?

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Nkem4040: 7:29am On May 22, 2017
Day169:
The CDC is more empowered constitutionally as he oversees all of the armed forces in the country (both military and paramilitary).
On the other hand, historically, the army has almost solely been responsible for military incursions into government via coup d'etat (and mutiny). Hence the perceived superiority of the COAS!

The army is only powerful because we are on land. If we all lived in the ocean or water, I assure you, the Navy will be the ones running the show including plotting coups. Likewise, if we all lived in the air, the Airforce will be in charge.

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Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by obinoral1179(m): 7:29am On May 22, 2017
CDS is more of a coordinator of the 3 armed Forces whereas COAS is the sole coordinator of the ARMY...... In terms of rank CDS comes first cause he is a 4 star general while the rest are 3 star general.

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