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|Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by gabng(m): 1:25am On May 23, 2017|
Alas, the relentless cockroach has been found out.
You don't know what you don't know
Stop forming local champion.
|Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by gabng(m): 1:26am On May 23, 2017|
Armed Forces Special Forces (AFSF) Battalion
|Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by NNAMDIII(m): 2:48am On May 23, 2017|
bedspread:you be novice for military matter!
|Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by TheKingdom: 3:14am On May 23, 2017|
Wow, naija people can never change. See all the know it all replies on this thread, meanwhile how many of una know the military laws of the British colony aka Nigeria?
|Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by 2n2k(m): 3:34am On May 23, 2017|
Domkat Bali was the CDS when Buhari was the head of state. Idiagbon was the chief of staff (supreme headquarters), Bali was no 3 as CDS, Babangida was chief of Army staff, Aikhomu was chief of naval staff, Ibrahim Alfa was Air chief.
However, when Babangida overthrew Buhari to become the president from chief of army position, Abacha was moved from GOC 2nd division to become Army chief, Ebitu Ukiwe was appointed chief of staff [general headquarters] (not supreme headquarters which was scrapped) while all other service chiefs including Bali retained their positions.
About a year down the line, Ukiwe committed a gaffe during a press interview when he admitted that OIC membership was not discussed by the ruling council before Nigeria became a member. At the meeting of the ruling council the following week, he was simply walked out and Aikhomu (the chief of naval staff) took over his position while Nyako became navy chief.
In January 1987, babangida fell sick and was hospitalized abroad for medical treatment that lasted many weeks. The service chiefs jointly ruled the country without identifiable or identified leader among them. When babangida made a broadcast on his return, he thanked them jointly for holding the administration without specifying who actually led the country in his absence.
It should be noted that in Buhari regime, there was no south-west and south-east representation among the chiefs of staff (idiagbon was from north-central), while aikhomu from south-south was the only southerner.
Under Babangida, the brief period that Ukiwe served gave south-east a representation. When he was removed after only a year and Aikhomu moved over to his position from naval chief. Aikhomu's replacement as the naval chief was a northerner, thus the situation reverted to Buhari era scenario of no representation from south west and east.
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|Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by 2n2k(m): 4:19am On May 23, 2017|
What is this about GCFR and GCON when discussing military matters? You actually believed they are ranks
Well for knowledge improvement sake, those are national civil honours.
There are two Orders namely Federal Republic (FR) and Niger (N). Note that it is Niger not Nigeria.
Each of the Orders have four classes: Member (MON or MFR), Officer (OON or OFR), Commander (CON or CFR) and Grand Commander (GCON or GCFR)
These are civilian national honours that the president can confer on anybody both Nigerians and foreigners, military or civilian based on advice of the national honours committee.
Shagari conferred the GCFR honour on Awolowo in 1982 when neither president shagari nor Vice President ekwueme had any national honours. Did that make awolowo higher than shagari or ekwueme then?
Jonathan conferred GCFR on Dangote. Was Dangote higher than the sitting VP that had GCON then?
Until this 4th republic when national honours became bastardized, it was successors that conferred honours on the past office holders unlike now that honours are conferrred on the first day in office.
|Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Daddy217: 4:31am On May 23, 2017|
As the name implies, the CDS is more powerful than the COAS. Cos all the serving chiefs are under the CDS. In this present case the rank says it all.
|Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by Eaa247(m): 6:16am On May 23, 2017|
u actually confirmed my suspicion dat a goat gave birth to u by quoting me again. If I ever reply u again it means I belong to ur class.
|Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by winj3: 9:19am On May 23, 2017|
In the military there are 2 main appointment areas,
---staff appointment (They are usually in staff offices where budget, policy, procurement, plans are made - COAS is there)
-The chief of army staff (as the name says) is a staff appointment - He sits in an office with officers and men who have staff appointments and co-ordinating powers over all units. The COAS DOES NOT COMMAND TROOPS.
---troop (company commander, battalion commander, brigade commander, task force, GOC)
-GOC - General officers COMMANDING (COMMANDING), HE COMMANDS TROOPS IN THE FIELD (Brigades, regiments, battalions as general officer)
|Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by winj3: 9:57am On May 23, 2017|
If you want to engage on this issue you should come armed with some research and facts!
NO, I do not “agree that the closest military adviser to the president is the NSA”
-The NSA is NOT a military adviser BUT A SECURITY adviser. The military adviser is the Defence minister.
The NSA can only influence the president MILITARILY based on the specific issue OR he is a very close confidant of the president (nothing to do with his job)
THE NSA is nothing more than assistant to the President for National Security matters.
The influence and role of the NSA varies from president to president, Sambo Dasuki's influence is nothing to do with that of the current guy.
The NSA is a co-ordinator of the nation’s security based on the intelligence he gets from local and global sources, uses it to advice the president on course of action.
It is a staff position in the Office of the President and does not have line or budget authority over DHQ, unlike Defence minister, who is Senate-confirmed official with statutory authority over his department.
The NSA is able to give daily advice (due to proximity) to the President.
The NSA updates the president on security related activities as they happen and if the military are involved in such security related intervention he reports the security aspect of it while the Defence minister will report the military aspects of it or they can both co-ordinate.
The roles may interlope but the defence minister is a more sought after role in any country!
There is a clear reason why senate approves the defence minister and not care much for the national security adviser role! NSA na security secretary and administrator, although some influential people have occupied the role and broadened their portfolio.
The NSA is not even inside the line of succession if president is out of action, the VP, Senate president, Foreign affairs minister and Defence minister are considered.
|Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by blackgig(m): 11:29am On May 23, 2017|
Hello . . . . @the bolded, you just copied whats obtainable in the United States from wikipedia, replaced with the positions that's obtainable in Nigeria i.e: "replaced secretary of state with Foreign affairs minister" and pasted here. Nawa o.
|Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by winj3: 12:13pm On May 23, 2017|
The Nigerian NSA is modelled out the same in America and many other countries with the same role.
The Nigerian NSA is exactly as I decribed.
What is your evidence the functions are not the same?
Let me guess, you have none except making words "bold"
|Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by gabng(m): 2:11pm On May 23, 2017|
You must indeed be delirious son
You cant be my class when you don't have the brain matter for an IQ test.
You know not what you don't know.
Admit it & learn or remain in denial.
|Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by emerged01(m): 3:34pm On May 23, 2017|
|Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by birdman(m): 5:09am On May 24, 2017|
are you a leaner? chief of defence is a figurehead. COAS is the one that has the power to orchestrate or stop coups
|Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by bedspread: 9:07am On May 24, 2017|
NNAMDIII:I LAUGH U SPIRTUALLY....
BY GOD'S GRACE I AM A PRODUCT OF RHE NN FROM NURSERY SCHOOL TO SECONDARY.
I HV BEEN IN MILITARY SURROUNDINGS FOR OVER abt 22yrs...
In military knowledge you cannot know it as I do.
My old man served in the military until being a one star general....
Check your facts..or maybe you are a product of this Facebook military boys we hv now
|Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by NNAMDIII(m): 2:34am On May 26, 2017|
bedspread:What if i told you that i passed through the grounds of yamuza zakari and my uncle was the former Director General of NYSC! Nairaland is a faceless forum,anybody can claim anything! CDS is superior to COAS!
I don't like arguing with anonymous people, if you still believe that COAS is superior to CDS, i can still ask a nairalander here who's also a Major in NA! I'll just mention your moniker so that he could clear your doubts! How's your morale ex-boy?
|Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by win2kwire: 10:44am On Jun 01, 2017|
birdman:na wah o.
-This person is basing their argument on certaIN ROGUE COAS like IBB and Abacha for their comment.
--A GOC, Brigade commander or even ADC can initiate coup, succeeding does not make these lower rankers anything more than OPPORTUNISTS!
---Seniority is in the dustbin in a coup (yes only coup) situation!!!
The CDS is the tri-Service commander and is a senior rank compared to COAS. The CDS has the power to gather troops from army, Airforce and NAvy to form a joint task force, unit or armed forces special forces team! COAS cannot do that!!!
The CDS can do that because he outranks the COAS, CAS and CNS!
The CDS controls the discipline, moral and professional life of everything in the armed forces (Defence staff), including the COAS, CAS and CNS. He is the CHIEF (yes chief) of defence staff (all defence staff) - if you wear a military uniform he is your boss!
So please shut up and stop displaying your ignorance!
|Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by birdman(m): 1:14pm On Jun 01, 2017|
Wise up and stop this grammar. COAS is the presidents kinsman or very close buddy while CDS is the figurehead used to appease other groups. Check Buharis govt fir example. Wise up..dont be like GEJ who replaced Ihejirika, his ally as COAS with someone else. You see how it ended? For the third time i tell you, wise up... And pay attention
|Re: Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior? by win2kwire: 1:24pm On Jun 01, 2017|
THE QUESTION WAS.................... Chief Of Defence Staff Vs Chief Of Army Staff: Which Position Is More Superior?
NOT NIGERIAN POLITICAL OR MILITARY POWER PLAY, NEPOTISM AND FAVOURTISM! If you pay attention to the most basic detail you will have the most basic commonsense response!
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