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Re: Does Jesus Have A God ? by Onemilo(m): 7:23pm On Jun 03, 2017
ajiboye007:



what exactly is ur question ?

God is not an author of confusion..........


not only jesus said i and my father are one only made him God , the truth is jesus himself claim to be God .

i can give u verses where he claim to be God and i ask u to explain it .


Give the verses my brother and let the Bible answer, as always.
Re: Does Jesus Have A God ? by Onemilo(m): 7:26pm On Jun 03, 2017
ajiboye007:


according to u right ?

do u understand what diversity is ?

if u do , then apply it to the scripture or what the christian teach about jesus and father.


My brother, Diversity has nothing to do with this.. ..

The Bible is self explanatory? Isn't it?
Then let it point the way to the truth.

Jesus sent himself?
Re: Does Jesus Have A God ? by ajiboye007(m): 7:33pm On Jun 03, 2017
Onemilo:



My brother, Diversity has nothing to do with this.. ..

The Bible is self explanatory? Isn't it?
Then let it point the way to the truth.

Jesus sent himself?

the bible teach jesus is word of God , do u have problem with this ?

the bible teach the word is God Do u have problem with this ?

now listing

Isaiah 55:11
so is my word that goes out from my mouth: It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it.

pls answer this if the word returns to back to God the word become what ?

ISAIAH 45:22-23
… 22 "Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; For I am God, and there is no other. 23 "I have sworn by Myself, The word has gone
forth from My mouth in righteousness And will not turn back,
That to Me every knee will bow, every
tongue will swear allegiance.

Romans 14:11
It is written: "As surely as I live, says the Lord, every knee will bow before Me; every tongue will confess to God."

Philippians 2:10
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
Re: Does Jesus Have A God ? by Onemilo(m): 7:57pm On Jun 03, 2017
My brother, this is why I asked if God is the author of confusion...

I was expecting 'I'm God" from the horse's mouth.. . As "This is my son, whom I'm pleased with" was so clear.

This is why I said you shouldn't be illogical.

If Jesus was God, and he sent himself to Comman suffer, cry on the cross, just so to forgive sins, where he could just say "Ur sins are forgiven, sin no more"

For the sake of this argument, Let's say I agree to @bold .

Jesus was God, Jesus was the father, Whose Father was Jesus praying to for miracles? Whose father was Jesus praying to, to save him on cross?

"Support claims with Bible verses"
Re: Does Jesus Have A God ? by CAPTIVATOR: 8:12pm On Jun 03, 2017
ajiboye007:



lol ....... true, the father is the highest authority, but does this denied the other member are human just like the father ? now read post and look at topic . was 1cor 11:3 talking about authority ? again u failed to see that the father is human just like the rest of member, the same son is God just like the father is God . now sallow this ....

john 17:5
5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

ask ur self what glory the father and son share togethe before the world begins ?

john 5:22-23
22 Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son,
23 that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.

pls tell us how the son will receive the same honor just like the father if they are not equal ?

What u refuse to understand is , the bible teach the son is word of the father , meaning the word is equal to father. because ur word ur is not lesser than u ,just as the same time ur is lesser to u because being the one that send the word
.

Humans are GODS too. but we have a God


Do you accept that Jesus have a God ?
Re: Does Jesus Have A God ? by ajiboye007(m): 10:20pm On Jun 03, 2017
CAPTIVATOR:


Humans are GODS too. but we have a God


Do you accept that Jesus have a God ?

i think u have read my argument so far, i dont know why u are still asking me that, when my answer is oblivious .


u are yet to prove ur argument or counter my argument so far , stop arguing from silence.
Re: Does Jesus Have A God ? by oaroloye(m): 7:45am On Jun 04, 2017
ajiboye007:
DOES JESUS HAVE A GOD ?

i believe some of us must have hard this ,can God have a God ?. this is one of questions muslims use to joke around in other mock christians and to say jesus is not God .

the jew of that time were confused just like today muslim, they believe jesus was a lair for claiming to be God.
John 8:19
"Where is Your Father?" they asked Him. "You do not know Me or My Father," Jesus answered. "If you knew Me, you would know My Father as well."

yeah if muslim truly knew who jesus is ,they won't be asking ''can God have a God".

john 14:7-9
… 7 If you had known Me, you would know My Father as well. From now on you do know Him and have seen Him.” 8 Philip said to Him, “Lord,
show us the Father, and that will be enough for us.” 9 Jesus replied, “Philip, I have been with you all this time, and still you do not know Me? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?…

the statement jesus made, my God why do u forsake me. jesus was merely reciting a psalms to the fulfilment of what is written about him . the statement have nothing to do with one God begging or asking another God for help as muslim suggests.

Matthew 11:27
"My Father has entrusted everything to me. No one truly knows the Son except the Father, and no one truly knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him."

my conclusion, its impossible to know who God is or to know who father is , if the critics does not know who the son is ,and only the son reveal them to who he pleases with ......

MAKE NO MISTAKES JESUS IS GOD .

YAHSHUA IS NOT GOD: HE IS THE SERVANT OF GOD. He never claimed equality of God.

When Paul attempted to destroy CHRISTIANITY from the OUTSIDE, he used PHARISEE CONVOLUTED LOGIC TO PROVE TO CHRISTIANS THAT THEIR BELIEFS WERE BLASPHEMY.

. ACTS 26:8-11.
. JOHN 5:16-20.

When he infiltrated Christianity, he told the Philippians Christians- who did not have access to Yahshua's actual Teachings- that Yahshua "THOUGHT IT NOT ROBBERY TO BE EQUAL WITH GOD "

That was a TOTAL LIE, because Lord Yahshua STATED EXPLICITLY: "MY FATHER IS GREATER THAN I."

There is no amount of LOGIC that can make "GREATER" mean the same thing as "EQUAL."

So followers of Paul have to IGNORE what YAHSHUA said, to use what PAUL, his supposed REPLACEMENT said.

THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS INFILTRATED PROTESTANTISM, AND RIDDLED IT WITH FALSE BELIEFS.

THE GOSPEL is used to reduce Christians into a SUGGESTIBLE STATE, which is EXACERBATED by the use of SONIC HARMONICS that MESS with BRAINWAVES, to MAKE Christians BELIEVE totally idiotic things, without being aware of how WRONG and STUPID they are:

"YOU ARE THE LORD,
THAT IS YOUR NAME!"

"THE LORD" is NOT His Name!
The Ancients thought God's Name was TOO HOLY to be written down like that- so they used "THE LORD" as a EUPHEMISM.

"YOU WILL NEVER
SHARE YOUR GLORY
WITH ANYBODY!"

Which totally contradicts Lord Yahshua, who said:

"THE GLORY THOU HAST GIVEN ME,
I HAVE GIVEN THEM!"

You show the verse to CHRISTIANS hooked on singing THAT song: my experience has consistently been that THEY IGNORE IT, and continue to SING BLASPHEMY.

They are LITERALLY ADDICTED to THE BLASPHEMY. Their BRAINS are CONDITIONED to release SOOTHING CHEMICALS, called ENDORPHINS, making them ENDORSE anything they are told when those Chemicals are in their Brains.

They VALUE that FEELING more than TRUTH.

So, it usually doesn't matter WHAT evidence you present to someone MENTALLY CONDITIONED like this, that their Beliefs are WRONG: they will IGNORE it.
Re: Does Jesus Have A God ? by Nobody: 9:10am On Jun 04, 2017
youngest85:
Either Jesus is God or not doesn't guarantee you paradise.

It is your deeds that determines where you go

If u like argue from now till whenever
Coming from a Muslim it's understandable but the reality is that it goes beyond that.
Re: Does Jesus Have A God ? by Nobody: 9:13am On Jun 04, 2017
snowlord:
r u a christain?if nt i wud advise u dnt argue.but odawise JESUS IS GOD N HE ACKNOWLEDGES D FACT OF A SUPERIOR BEEN HIS FATHER,JEHOVA.BT THEN AGAIN THE HOLY TRINITY IS A MYSTERY beyond any human undastandn,al u nid is faithful adherenc of d laws til such a tym HE WIL COM AGAIN
It takes the Holy Ghost to explain to man the scriptures. Most persons perish for lack of knowledge that's why they read the Bible like literature in English

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Re: Does Jesus Have A God ? by Onemilo(m): 6:29pm On Jun 06, 2017
ajiboye007:


.

My brother, it's been 3days already.

Please answer this, thank you!



Onemilo:
My brother, this is why I asked if God is the author of confusion...

I was expecting 'I'm God" from the horse's mouth.. . As "This is my son, whom I'm pleased with" was so clear.

This is why I said you shouldn't be illogical.

If Jesus was God, and he sent himself to Comman suffer, cry on the cross, just so to forgive sins, where he could just say "Ur sins are forgiven, sin no more"

For the sake of this argument, Let's say I agree to @bold .

Jesus was God, Jesus was the father, Whose Father was Jesus praying to for miracles? Whose father was Jesus praying to, to save him on cross?

"Support claims with Bible verses"

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