Rossikki:


How many hours in your life have you spent researching the topic?

Be honest.

KahlDrogo:
Mynd44, can you close this thread please.

neoOduduwa:
This OP is mad

We know who the jews are, they're the flat-headed descendants of Judas Iscariot and they worship Chukwu Okike Abiama

Yorubas are not jews for fvck sake. Stop trying to wrap cat sh¡t in dog sh¡t

BabaRamota1980:


Lol. I dont need to research the topic.

I just need to read outcomes and conclusions of works done by respectable historians in the field of anthropology, history, divinity, science and culture. Their conclusion does not include Yoruba being a jewish people.

AshiwajuFoward:
Na wah. Maybe now that 'Afonjas' too are thought to be part of the super-duper race of jews, Cownu and his band of thugs will cut Yoruba people some slack.

Abeg, since when did being a Jew become a fad or badge of honour? Coz me I am not getting this jewish fixation o.

BabaRamota1980:
Hey Rossikki,

Be warned! Yoruba guys dont compromise on stories of our origin at all. We know who we are...from top (Ooni) to individual family compound (Oriki). We have never heard of Jew in our myths, our divinities (400+), our civilization, our oral accounts, our written narratives, our dynasties or in our spiritualism.

Dont start what you cant finish. Do not repeat this error again. You hear?

BabaRamota1980:
Hey Rossikki,

Be warned! Yoruba guys dont compromise on stories of our origin at all. We know who we are...from top (Ooni) to individual family compound (Oriki). We have never heard of Jew in our myths, our divinities (400+), our civilization, our oral accounts, our written narratives, our dynasties or in our spiritualism.

Dont start what you cant finish. Do not repeat this error again. You hear?

BabaRamota1980:
Rosikki,
I think you are confusing Canaanites with Judaism or Jews. The two are not the same. Jews are even different from ancient Hebrews. There are Hebrews in modern society that do not practice judaism.

Rossikki:


Ok.. mention one 'respectable historian' you've read who researched the issue.

BabaRamota1980:


Just focus on promoting Igbo people as Jews. They say they are jews. Work on putting them on world map as a Jewish group.

Yorubas are not Jews, we dont want your solicitation.

Even Professor Lange that you quoted did not call Yorubas Jews.

I noticed where you wrote Ijebu as Ijeeu.....you are cunningly attempting to repeat what Achebe did when he changed name of his ethnic group which for centuries has been known as Ibo and renamed it Igbo to claim ancestry to Ile Ife and the Moremi legend. But we produced the authentic Ugbo to discredit him .

We do not have a people call Ijeeu in Yorubaland. When you regain your sense and respectfully write their name correctly as it has always been known...IJEBU, then return here for a proper discovery on Yoruba history.

I also noticed you slipped Palestine into the Canaan reference with Clapperton account. This is first time Ive seen Caanan referred as Palestine. No one in history of Yorubas and connection to Canaan ever mentioned that.

If you would just write things the way they are you will have credibility. These cunning embellishments may serve good with Ibos who are searching left right and center for a histotical foothold and to them such embellishments is acceptable. To Yorubas who have a very solid historical roots that we are proud of...its an insult to call us Jews or adulterate name of our towns to fit your need for Jew branding. STOP IT!

Rossikki:


I know that the term Jews relates only to specific descendants of Jacob while Hebrew refers to the entire Abrahamic bloodline. The two terms are used interchangeably nowadays, but you are right, the more accurate term would be 'Hebrews'.

Rossikki:


Your closed mind is your biggest undoing. There were no 'embellishments' and the research quoted is not mine, but that of well-known and respected scholars. You need to get off this thing of thinking you know all there is to know about Yoruba or any other history. It shows you are not a student of history. Students of history always expect to learn more. Because history is very vast. Wisdom is knowing how little we know - Socrates.

BabaRamota1980:
I noticed where you wrote Ijebu as Ijeeu.....you are cunningly attempting to repeat what Achebe did when he changed name of his ethnic group which for centuries has been known as Ibo and renamed it Igbo to claim ancestry to Ile Ife and the Moremi legend. But we produced the authentic Ugbo to discredit him .

haffaze777:
Yoruba be Jew kee?rilwayne001 come and see something, shey u be Jew?

haffaze777:
Yoruba be Jew kee?rilwayne001 come and see something, shey u be Jew?

agadez007:
Yoruba muslims have Palestinian heritage while the Yoruba Christians are Jewish

Rilwayne001:


What sort of nonsense is this

agadez007:
Yoruba muslims have Palestinian heritage while the Yoruba Christians are Jewish

Rilwayne001:


What sort of nonsense is this

Rossikki:
The Bantu Branch of ‘Africans’ are Hebrew Israelites PART I of II


In this post I would like to establish the fact that the ‘Bantu’ branch of Africans, generally concentrated in the 'sub-Saharan' part of the continent, and their related family branches are actually descendants of the Hebrew Israelites. Identifying the Bantu as the descendants of the Israelites is extremely important. Having the understanding that the Bantu are Israelites is integral in order to gain a broader and more accurate comprehension of who the Israelites are, where their descendants are located, and what contributions they have made to the world.

Many of us are already very familiar with the Zondervan’s Bible Dictionary’s Ham (son of Noah), definition. Those who are not, please become soon familiar with it. However, again, for those of use who are already familiar with the Zondervan’s Bible Dictionary definition of Ham, we know that by it [the definition of Ham] we know that the Negroes are not Ham’s (true African) descendants.

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ZONDERVAN’S BIBLE DICTIONARY, DEFINITION OF HAM


In fact, the historical mythology and traditions of the Yoruba people themselves speak of their origins outside of Africa in the Near East (Shemitic) region. Dierk Lange, Prof. Dr. Emeritus, of Bayreuth University in Germany, has performed extensive research concerning many West African groups and their origins in the Near East. In the abstract to one of his many essays, “Dierk Lange: Origin of the Yoruba and “The Lost Tribes of Israel”,” Dierk confirms the traditions of a Levantine (Israelite) origin of the Yoruba Nigerians.

“On the basis of comparative studies between the dynastic tradition of the Oyo-Yoruba and ancient Near Eastern history, the present article argues that Yoruba traditions of provenance, claiming immigration from the Near East, are basically correct. According to Ọyo-Yoruba tradition, the ancestral Yoruba saw the Assyrian conquests of the Israelite kingdom from the ninth and the eighth centuries B.C. from the perspective of the Israelites. After the fall of Samaria in 722 B.C.., they were deported to eastern Syria and adopted the ruling Assyrian kings as their own.” – Origin of the Yoruba and “The Lost Tribes of Israel”, By Dierk Lange

Dierk continues in the same article, stating that the Yoruba, although thought to be of local (African) origins actually migrated to the west coast of Africa from far away (the Mediterranean, the Middle East, and/or Egypt/Nubia). The Yoruba preserved evidence of their ancient Near Eastern (Israelite) ancestral origins despite other cultural influences and traditions superseding their own in Africa over time.

“According to the present opinion, the Yoruba are of local origin [African/Hamite], but this opinion reflects the great influence of post colonialism on African historiography rather than sober text-critical research. It involves the fallacious dismissal of the major traditions of provenance suggesting an origin of the ancestral Yoruba in the Near East. In fact, before the rise of academic African historiography in connection with the independence of African states around 1960, scholars relied more directly on the available traditions of Yoruba origin and they did some comparative research between Yoruba, ancient Mediterranean and Israelite cultures. On the basis of this evidence they suggested that the Yoruba immigrated from far away: either from Phoenicia, the Mediterranean world, Egypt, or Nubia (Biobaku 1955: 8–13; Lange 1995: 40–48). If any of these suppositions could be shown to be true and present opinion to be ideologically biased, it would mean that a culture of the ancient world survived in sub-Saharan Africa, which in the area of origin was superseded by subsequent sweeping developments such as Hellenization, Christianization and Islamization (Lange 1995, 1997, 1999).”

The Igbo people of Nigeria are also known to be descendants of the ancient Hebrew Israelites.

“These be the sons of Leah, which she bare unto Jacob in Padanaram, with his daughter Dinah: all the souls of his sons and his daughters were thirty and three. And the sons of Gad; Ziphion, and Haggi, Shuni, and Ezbon, Eri, and Arodi, and Areli.” – Genesis 49:15-16

This information is noteworthy because it identifies two of the primary tribes of the Niger-Congo branch of West Africans, the Yoruba and Ibo, as being “Middle Eastern”/Shemitic/Semitic Israelites that migrated into to Africa from territories outside of the African continent. The Bantu people are related to the Niger-Congo groups because it is from the Niger-Congo regions that the Bantu expansion originated.

“Members of the German culture historical school were convinced that states in West Africa originated in pre-Roman times as a result of Near Eastern or Mediterranean influences. They noted surprising similarities between the institutions of surviving traditional states all over Africa and therefore believed in a vast movement of diffusion.” – The Founding of Kanem by Assyrian Refugees ca. 600 BCE: Documentary, Linguistic, and Archaeological Evidence, by Dierk Lange

This vast ‘movement of diffusion’ of Near-East/Mediterranean influences all over Africa can be attributed to the consecutive migrations of Israelites into Africa. The earliest movements of diffusion are known as the “Bantu Expansion.”


So, in review, we can infer from the previous information that:

- Zondervan’s Bible Dictionary let’s us know that the Negroes are not Hamites (True Africans) but instead are from Shem (Middle Eastern). The Negroes are Shemitic

- Dierk Lange’s research has made it clear that the [b]Yoruba of the Niger-Congo (Negroland) region are indeed Shemitic.

- The Niger-Congo people had a branch that diffused the Near-East/Mediterranean customs throughout the lands the migrated all over Africa during the Bantu Expansion.[/b]

https://nasiresearch.org/2015/02/07/the-bantu-branch-of-africans-are-hebrew-israelites-part-i-of-ii/

Hati13:

Are you serious?

Bantus/Negros originated from West Africa, so they are true African.

Semitic languages developed in the Middle East, while Yoruba language which is part of the Niger-Congo developed in West Africa, so how can you say Yorubas are Semitic?

I will tell you about the origin of Ancient Hebrews/Jews in my next comment.

Olu317:
Yoruba language didn't develop in west Africa. You can find similar words (Semitic) shared in Middle East present in Yoruba language. And these words weren't borrowed. Get your facts right!

Rilwayne001:


What sort of nonsense is this

Aya mi ja gan sef!!!

Demmzy15:
Aya mi ja gan sef!!!