CoolUsername:


I agree that evolution and deism are compatible but evolution is the antithesis of intelligent design.

And if you really think that evolution doesn't have a wealth of evidence then you are denying reality.

Do you really understand the meaning of the word "wealth"?

an abundance of valuable possessions or money

now note the word " abundance"

If we have abundance of valuable evidence, while is it subject to debate and argument?

onyenze123:


Do you really understand the meaning of the word "wealth"?



now note the word " abundance"

If we have abundance of valuable evidence, while is it subject to debate and argument?

It's really not subject to debate. No respectable scientist in the concerned field does so. Your logic is extremely flawed, does the fact that some people debate that the earth is flat mean that there isn't a wealth of evidence that it is spherical?

CoolUsername:


It's really not subject to debate. No respectable scientist in the concerned field does so. Your logic is extremely flawed, does the fact that some people debate that the earth is flat mean that there isn't a wealth of evidence that it is spherical?

We are talking about ratio here. What is ratio of for to against?

CoolUsername:


It's really not subject to debate. No respectable scientist in the concerned field does so. Your logic is extremely flawed, does the fact that some people debate that the earth is flat mean that there isn't a wealth of evidence that it is spherical?

Can you provide the just 1 out of the wealth of evidence supporting evolution.

And please not adaptation or variation...

You really should search the meaning of the word "wealth".

onyenze123:


We are talking about ratio here. What is ratio of for to against?

Show me one 21st century research paper published by a reputable scientific journal against evolution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_support_for_evolution?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C6836637634

winner01:
Can you provide the just 1 out of the wealth of evidence supporting evolution.

And please not adaptation or variation...

You really should search the meaning of the word "wealth".

There's no distinction between adaptation and evolution. You shouldn't try redefine well understood scientific terms.

Anyway, the fossil evidence clearly shows the emergence of new species that never existed before ie: There are no rabbits in Devonian rock. Not that there are statistically fewer rabbits, there are absolutely zero.

Seriously, if you can disprove evolution, quickly publish your paper and collect your Templeton prize. Don't miss this opportunity to make a name for yourself.

CoolUsername:


It's really not subject to debate. No respectable scientist in the concerned field does so. Your logic is extremely flawed, does the fact that some people debate that[b] the earth is flat[/b] mean that there isn't a wealth of evidence that it is spherical?

oyinbo scientist are not wise, UP is up and Down is down
It is we Nigerian who go upandan, come-and-be-going who should be saying earth is round

#Joke

I have just noticed something winner01 is felixmoron i don't have evidence I just feel it in my heart

Deicide:
I have just noticed something winner01 is felixmoron i don't have evidence I just feel it in my heart

Na so na , and deicide is cutemadridsta, dalaman is Seun, while aaronsod is johnydon22.

You won't see that stupid dalaman here

winner01:
You won't see that stupid dalaman here

. Ogbeni no go get heart attack because of me oo.

dalaman:


. Ogbeni no go get heart attack because of me oo.

At least I go get heart attack go dey enjoy with God, you know say if you get heart attack because of Christians, your own don kpeme be dat

winner01:
At least I go get heart attack go dey enjoy with God, you know say if you get heart attack because of Christians, your own don kpeme be dat

That remains your imaginations and fantasy. No go get heart attack because of me.

dalaman:


That remains your imaginations and fantasy. No go get heart attack because of me.

This one wey anything God dey repel you, na die you dey die small small o

winner01:
This one wey anything God dey repel you, na die you dey die small small o

No God can do anything to me because all God's are imaginary man made ideas and concepts.

dalaman:


No God can do anything to me because all God's are imaginary man made ideas and concepts.

Issokay if you think so, lass lass you go dey alright.

winner01:
Issokay if you think so, lass lass you go dey alright.

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dalaman:


No God can do anything to me because all God's are imaginary man made ideas and concepts.

do you believe the above?

Gggg102:



do you believe the above?

The above is a fact.

dalaman:

The above is a fact.

then you believe the fact?

Gggg102:


then you believe the fact?

He will not answer this.

Intelligent design yet there are more than 4000 genetic diseases. Where's the intelligence in that? Lol

sKeetz:
Intelligent design yet there are more than 4000 genetic diseases. Where's the intelligence in that? Lol

Can you design something more intelligent?

winner01:
Can you design something more intelligent?

are you comparing me to a so called omnipotent being? He should know better.

sKeetz:


are you comparing me to a so called omnipotent being? He should know better.

No, I'm not, I'm simply seeking to know if there's another model you can compare the human body with.

You really should stop this silliness. Personally, I think you're quite intelligent to be spewing such ignorance in defence of your beliefs. Intelligent design my nuts. if your god designed human species, then he is not so intelligent afterall.

You are so ignorant about evolution and the human genome and it's a shame you refuse to learn after all these years yet you spend so much time posting religioscience crap here.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-creationist/

if it's not too long for you to read...and btw that was 16 years ago.

I suggest you also read this book "The Not-So-Intelligent Designer: Why Evolution Explains the Human Body and Intelligent Design Does Not"


I get it, you don't want to go to hell (falling away of the saints in the last days) or lose your nairaland religion section allies if you follow the evidence.

If you need good books or recent journal publications I could get them and send you for free. Put your brain to good use and leave the religious looneys alone.

winner01:
No, I'm not, I'm simply seeking to know if there's another model you can compare the human body with.

....Compare the human body with?? In what terms are you asking? The human body as we know it now is as a results of millions of years of evolution by means of natural selection. The evidence to this is in every sphere of life such as in bacteria, dogs and even whales.

The claim that life forms and the universe must have been intelligently designed is riddled with fallacies which I could go into details if you would permit me. If everything was designed, what can we make of a designer that has left billions of his designs to die of diseases,wars, natural disasters and starvation. Your so called intelligent designer, it seems; has a very poor maintenance culture. It would interest you to know that 98% of species that ever existed on earth are currently extinct. Now, that is surely the handwork of a not so intelligent designer.

Even if an intelligent designer was proven to be true; you'll still have your work cut out for you. You would now have to prove that he is your own version of god; that he needs to be worshiped in the exact manner which you do and that he needs your money in form of tithes etc.

sKeetz:


....Compare the human body with?? In what terms are you asking? The human body as we know it now is as a results of millions of years of evolution by means of natural selection. The evidence to this is in every sphere of life such as in bacteria, dogs and even whales.

Except you're talking about pseudoscience, science is observable. We have observed micro evolution in finch birds, dogs, flies and many other biological organisms. What we have not observed is macro evolution I.e change of kinds.
You can show me just one observable evidence of change of kinds.

sKeetz:


The claim that life forms and the universe must have been intelligently designed is riddled with fallacies which I could go into details if you would permit me. If everything was designed, what can we make of a designer that has left billions of his designs to die of diseases,wars, natural disasters and starvation. Your so called intelligent designer, it seems; has a very poor maintenance culture. It would interest you to know that 98% of species that ever existed on earth are currently extinct. Now, that is surely the handwork of a not so intelligent designer.

This has nothing to do with the validity of the claims of intelligent design. If the design is left to die, it was first created.
This is a totally different argument.

sKeetz:



Even if an intelligent designer was proven to be true; you'll still have your work cut out for you. You would now have to prove that he is your own version of god; that he needs to be worshiped in the exact manner which you do and that he needs your money in form of tithes etc.

I never spoke about God or worship.

winner01:
Except you're talking about pseudoscience, science is observable. We have observed micro evolution in finch birds, dogs, flies and many other biological organisms. What we have not observed is macro evolution I.e change of kinds.
You can show me just one observable evidence of change of kinds.

Before I answer your question, I would love you to define kind to avoid any confusion.

This has nothing to do with the validity of the claims of intelligent design. If the design is left to die, it was first created.
This is a totally different argument.

It does have everything to do with intelligent design. I mean, with all the genetic disorders, natural disasters etc you still think there is an intelligent designer. Maybe not so intelligent

I never spoke about God or worship.

Oh my bad but this is the religious section and I assumed you made this thread as an argument for your god.

winner01:
No, I'm not, I'm simply seeking to know if there's another model you can compare the human body with.

Mr man.
You know simple malaria drugs you take is tweaking that "yahweh inspired model" to be "better".

Genetic engineering research to eliminate the weaknesses of the "yahweh inspired" model is in progress and achievements have been made for some decades now.

I guess some humans are smart enough to make your "perfect model" stronger and better for most of you to have the strength to come here and type this.

But hey, Yahweh's model is the perfect one, in some distorted imaginations.

4kings:

Mr man.
You know simple malaria drugs you take is tweaking that "yahweh inspired model" to be "better".

Genetic engineering research to eliminate the weaknesses of the "yahweh inspired" model is in progress and achievements have been made for some decades now.

I guess some humans are smart enough to make your "perfect model" stronger and better for most of you to have the strength to come here and type this.

But hey, Yahweh's model is the perfect one, in some distorted imaginations.

Do we have any other model created by you or anyone so we can have an idea if one model is better than the other?