fratermathy:


I saw one of the recent interviews in which Nnamdi Kanu said Delta is a part of Biafra. In fact, he went further to precisely mention Isoko as well. When he mentioned Delta, he didn't say "Delta Igbo". He said "Delta State", a state in which Urhobos are the most populous ethnic group. What more proof do we need for forceful inclusion into Biafra?

You may not like that fact we have been vocal in our rebuttal but then, no one likes the fact that they are included in a struggle that is not theirs, a struggle built on hate speeches and "overflogged vitriolic".

No one cares that you've been vocal in your rebuttals; many groups in the SS and SE have spoken out against IPOB. The problem I have with people like you is that, even before Kanu's interviews, you were going around proclaiming your exclusion from the Biafran nation, not just once but many times so all of this noise can't just be because of his interviews . It's well documented that I, personally speaking, do not want your people anywhere near our Igbo independent country, and there's many that agree with me here. However, seeing the Urhobos, in particular, continuously coming out to reiterate the same rhetoric is getting tiresome now. We get it, Kanu has responded you in kind. Now, what's the problem?

TonyeBarcanista:
The problem I have with the article is the claim that small Urhobo with 1 senatorial district in Delta state is the 4th largest ethnic nation ahead of Ijaws (60% in Rivers, 100% Bayelsa, 40% Delta, and also in Akwa Ibom and Ondo states- undisputed 4th largest with 20million population) and the fifth largest tribe Tiv (Dominant in Benue and also present in Taraba state)


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I ignore trolls

Tonye, let's not get into a banter over who's the bigger "minority". Any group has a right to claim whatever and be well justified for doing so too until there comes a time when we will have a honest census in this nation.

But your claim that Ijaws occupy 40% of Delta is outrightly wrong. Ijaws in Delta share a senatorial district of just 1.2m persons with Itsekiris and Isokos, of which Isokos are the most populous in that district.

Secondly, that an ethnic group is spread over states doesn't mean they have more population than others. Population density doesn't correlate with geographical spread. There may be 10 persons occupying a series of villages that spread into 20 states and on the other hand, 10,000 persons may occupy a single village in a single state. As you would agree, Urhoboland has densely populated urban areas such as Effurun-Warri axis, Sapele, Ughelli, Abraka, etc.

In any case, let's not get carried away by the banter of "most populous minority" in full view of the so called "majorities". Just accept that the logic you are attempting to use in this instance is quite flawed, regardless of whether or not Urhobo is 4th, 5th, 6th or even 10th most populous ethnic group in Nigeria!

fratermathy:


[s]Tonye, let's not get into a banter over who's the bigger "minority". Any group has a right to claim whatever and be well justified for doing so too until there comes a time when we will have a honest census in this nation.

But your claim that Ijaws occupy 40% of Delta is outrightly wrong. Ijaws in Delta share a senatorial district of just 1.2m persons with Itsekiris and Isokos, of which Isokos are the most populous in that district.

Secondly, that an ethnic group is spread over states doesn't mean they have more population than others. Population density doesn't correlate with geographical spread. There may be 10 persons occupying a series of villages that spread into 20 states and on the other hand, 10,000 persons may occupy a single village in a single state. As you would agree, Urhoboland has densely populated urban areas such as Effurun-Warri axis, Sapele, Ughelli, Abraka, etc.

In any case, let's not get carried away by the banter of "most populous minority" in full view of the so called "majorities". Just accept that the logic you are attempting to use in this instance is quite flawed, regardless of whether or not Urhobo is 4th, 5th, 6th or even 10th most populous ethnic group in Nigeria! [/s]

Trash!
Urhobo is the smallest ethnic group in Nigeria. If we do head count, una no reach one milly.

fratermathy:


"aniomafirstson"

The other day it was "Isoko1stson or Isokofirstson". I'm awaiting "Urhobofirstson".

No real Anioma, Urhobo or Isoko person will create such usernames. The Irony of this is that all such usernames are pro-Biafra! . If I should ask simple questions about the places you claim to be from, you'd all falter and run.

You guys should stick your noses to your regions and leave my peripheral view please.

Shifting the goal post again?

that is what you are good @ tho

just know that urhobo will never be part of Biafra

fratermathy:


I saw one of the recent interviews in which Nnamdi Kanu said Delta is a part of Biafra. In fact, he went further to precisely mention Isoko as well. When he mentioned Delta, he didn't say "Delta Igbo". He said "Delta State", a state in which Urhobos are the most populous ethnic group. What more proof do we need for forceful inclusion into Biafra?

You may not like that fact we have been vocal in our rebuttal but then, no one likes the fact that they are included in a struggle that is not theirs, a struggle built on hate speeches and "overflogged vitriolic".

which struggle is yours? What has nigeria done for the urhobos? Instead of you people to join hands to release all of us from the hold of the hausa fulani, you people are busy creating more distance between you and the person that is actually doing something to change nigeria. You people are pathetic, you make me sick. I ask you again, what has nigeria done for the urhobos?

Ngozi123:


No one cares that you've been vocal in your rebuttals; many groups in the SS and SE have spoken out against IPOB. The problem I have with people like you is that, even before Kanu's interviews, you were going around proclaiming your exclusion from the Biafran nation, not just once but many times so all of this noise can't just be because of his interviews . It's well documented that I, personally speaking, do not want your people anywhere near our Igbo independent country, and there's many that agree with me here. However, seeing the Urhobos, in particular, continuously coming out to reiterate the same rhetoric is getting tiresome now. We get it, Kanu has responded you in kind. Now, what's the problem?

You don't seem to get it. These rebuttals are coming from different interest groups in Urhobo nation, not a single one. Just the way you guys have various persons and groups agitating for Biafra, so too do we have various persons and groups coming out to negate Urhobo's inclusion in it. In fact, whether or not IPOB or Kanu included Urhobo in Biafra, it is always important to set the records straight for the sake of posterity. We have the inalienable right to deny whatever we want, even if we choose to do so every blessed day. Just the way you guys have the right to agitate for your Igboid Biafra everyday too.

Urhobos are not trouble makers. If some unscrupulous persons didn't create the impressions, drew the maps, or outrightly included us in Biafra, we wouldn't have the moral justification for these rebuttals. And until such a time when the records are set straight by IPOB, Nnamdi Kanu or other Biafran interest groups, we would always have the more justification to keep coming at you guys like this. Any Urhobo can come up and leverage on the fact that it was you guys or one of yours that included Urhobo into your struggle in order to give a rebuttal. No one can stop such person(s) from doing so.

fratermathy:


You don't seem to get it. These rebuttals are coming from different interest groups in Urhobo nation, not a single one. Just the way you guys have various persons andand groups agitating for Biafra, so too do we have various persons and groups coming out to negate Urhobo's inclusion in it. In fact, whether or not IPOB or Kanu included Urhobo in Biafra, it is always important to set the records straight for the sake of posterity. We have the inalienable right to deny whatever we want, even if we choose to do so every blessed day. Just the day you guys have the right to agitate for your Igboid Biafra everyday too.

Urhobos are not trouble makers. If some unscrupulous persons didn't create the impressions, drew the maps, or outrightly included us in Biafra, we wouldn't have the moral justification for these rebuttals. And until such a time when the records are set straight by IPOB, Nnamdi Kanu or other Biafran interest groups, we would always have the more justification to keep coming at you guys like this. Any Urhobo can come up and leverage on the fact that it was you guys or one of yours that included Urhobo into your struggle in order to give a rebuttal. No one can stop such person(s) from doing so.

U guys come across as Jobless.

Make sure u maintain ur stance wen the middle-belt, sw and Edo join alliance with Biafra. U have made far too much noise over nothing.

izombie:
which struggle is yours? What has nigeria done for the urhobos? Instead of you people to join hands to release all of us from the hold of the hausa fulani, you people are busy creating more distance between you and the person that is actually doing something to change nigeria. You people are pathetic, you make me sick. I ask you again, what has nigeria done for the urhobos?

What will Biafra do for the Urhobos that Nigeria has not and cannot do? The system is the same. The majority-minority argument will be there. Resource control won't solve all the fundamental problems. So what more do you guys have to offer?

hammerF:


U guys come across as Jobless.

Make sure u maintain ur stance wen the middle-belt, sw and Edo join alliance with Biafra. U have made far too much noise over nothing.

Over "nothing", says you. Like I said earlier, I find it ironic that certain comments are coming from the chief noisemakers in Nigeria.

fratermathy:


What will Biafra do for the Urhobos that Nigeria has not and cannot do? The system is the same. The majority-minority argument will be there. Resource control won't solve all the fundamental problems. So what more do you guys have to offer?

Absolutely nothing.

In fact we will send Urhobo to the dark ages where dey belong.

fratermathy:


You don't seem to get it. These rebuttals are coming from different interest groups in Urhobo nation, not a single one. Just the way you guys have various persons andand groups agitating for Biafra, so too do we have various persons and groups coming out to negate Urhobo's inclusion in it. In fact, whether or not IPOB or Kanu included Urhobo in Biafra, it is always important to set the records straight for the sake of posterity. We have the inalienable right to deny whatever we want, even if we choose to do so every blessed day. Just the day you guys have the right to agitate for your Igboid Biafra everyday too.

Urhobos are not trouble makers. If some unscrupulous persons didn't create the impressions, drew the maps, or outrightly included us in Biafra, we wouldn't have the moral justification for these rebuttals. And until such a time when the records are set straight by IPOB, Nnamdi Kanu or other Biafran interest groups, we would always have the more justification to keep coming at you guys like this. Any Urhobo can come up and leverage on the fact that it was you guys or one of yours that included Urhobo into your struggle in order to give a rebuttal. No one can stop such person(s) from doing so.

Nobody asked you to be part of Biafra

you won't contribute anything

we don't want you guys period

stay with Nigeria

aniomafirstson:

Nobody asked you to be part of Biafra

you won't contribute anything

we don't want you guys period

stay with Nigeria

Make sure to pass this to Nnamdi Kanu, the troublemaker general who includes us to his warped vision.

fratermathy:


Over "nothing", says you. Like I said earlier, I find it ironic that certain comments are coming from the chief noissmakers in Nigeria.

Urhobo the champion goal post shifters and attention seekers.

We have groups as far as Kaduna accepted in Biafra.

Yoruba are gaming to join which they eventually will end up in Biafra.

We have ardent Edo Biafra supporters all over the internet.

Urhobo are busy generating hate against the igbos.

Igbos dont forget anything.

hammerF:


Urhobo the champion goal post shifters and attention seekers.

We have groups as far as Kaduna accepted in Biafra.

Yoruba are gaming to join which they eventually will end up in Biafra.

We have ardent Edo Biafra supporters all over the internet.

Urhobo are busy generating hate against the igbos.

Igbos dont forget anything.

Again, I am pushed to laughter at the Irony of an Igbo IPOB youth saying Urhobos are generating hate against the Igbos! You guys already do that perfectly well for yourselves. We can't even compete with you on that one.

fratermathy:


Again, I am pushed to laughter at the Irony of an Igbo IPOB youth saying Urhobos are generating hate against the Igbos! You guys already do that perfectly well for yourselves. We can't even compete with you on that one.

Dat is y Yorubas are organising IPOB protest in Lagos and the Kaduna organising one in the south of Kaduna?

U really have sold the great Urhobo people very short on this site.

Igbos generally did not think their was an issue with Urhobos but u have convinced us all exceedingly well.

The only problem is wen we start, from where u stop, it becomes impossible to finish.

hammerF:


Dat is y Yorubas are organising IPOB protest in Lagos and the Kaduna organising one in the south of Kaduna?

U really have sold the great Urhobo people very short on this site.

Igbos generally did not think their was an issue with Urhobos but u have convinced us all exceedingly well.

The only problem is wen we start, from where u stop, it becomes impossible to finish.

LOL! Such an ironic turn of events.

In fact, where are your colleagues in Igbo "shortselling"? Pazienza, Nonaira, Ikology, Freemancipation, etc? (please mention the others)

Come and do what you guys do best here. I have been expecting you! I trust that Pazienza will come up with one new limitation of the Urhobos, and then leave the fight to be fought by Nonaira1. I enjoy sessions like this. It's been a while. Where are you guys?

CLOWNS!

fratermathy:


LOL! Such an ironic turn of events.

In fact, where are your colleagues in Igbo "shortselling"? Pazienza, Nonaira, Ikology, Freemancipation, etc? (please mention the others)

Come and do what you guys do best here. I have been expecting you! I trust that Pazienza will come up with one new limitation of the Urhobos, and then leave the fight to be fought by Nonaira1. I enjoy sessions like this. It's been a while. Where are you guys?

CLOWNS!

u sure ur alright? just checking...

hammerF:


u sure ur alright? just checking...

I am alright. By the way, below is for you and your cohorts.

hammerF:


Urhobo the champion goal post shifters and attention seekers.

We have groups as far as Kaduna accepted in Biafra.

[s]Yoruba are gaming to join which they eventually will end up in Biafra[/s].

We have ardent Edo Biafra supporters all over the internet.

Urhobo are busy generating hate against the igbos.

Igbos dont forget anything.

Oga keep yoruba out of your decision.

Lack of self esteem is when you want to forcefully annex every tribe to your senseless failed cause.

Be warned

hammerF:


Urhobo the champion goal post shifters and attention seekers.

We have groups as far as Kaduna accepted in Biafra.

[s]Yoruba are gaming to join which they eventually will end up in Biafra[/s].

We have ardent Edo Biafra supporters all over the internet.

Urhobo are busy generating hate against the igbos.

Igbos dont forget anything.

Oga keep yoruba out of your delusion.

Lack of self esteem is when you want to forcefully annex every tribe to your senseless failed cause.

Be warned

fratermathy:

I am alright. By the way, below is for you and your cohorts.

SS/SE, unfortunately for u, the SS have already made their bed with the SE.

Certain things have always been a certain way and can never change.

Even if we wanted an Igbo only state, just as u see Kaduna and Tiv requesting membership, so will our Ijaw and Ibibio brothers.

Have u seen how many times Ijaw visited Kanu.

Even the champions of NigerDelta Republic all visited Kanu.

Asari how many interview has he given as a Biafran?

This time, Biafra territory will stretch from Cross River to Lagos and Rivers to Southern Kaduna.

We will show Urhobo the Ocean wen the time comes as they will not be admitted under any circumstances.

hammerF:


SS/SE, unfortunately for u, the SS have already made their bed with the SE.

Certain things have always been a certain way and can never change.

Whatever you want but always remember these and respect them:

hammerF:
This time, Biafra territory will stretch from Cross River to Lagos and Rivers to Southern Kaduna.

We will show Urhobo the Ocean wen the time comes as they will not be admitted under any circumstances.

You are the funniest IPOB youth I've meet in a while. Please add Borno State too. Kanuris want Biafra. Infact just rename Nigeria to Biafra and all our problems will be solved.

fratermathy:


Tonye, let's not get into a banter over who's the bigger "minority". Any group has a right to claim whatever and be well justified for doing so too until there comes a time when we will have a honest census in this nation.

But your claim that Ijaws occupy 40% of Delta is outrightly wrong. Ijaws in Delta share a senatorial district of just 1.2m persons with Itsekiris and Isokos, of which Isokos are the most populous in that district.

Secondly, that an ethnic group is spread over states doesn't mean they have more population than others. Population density doesn't correlate with geographical spread. There may be 10 persons occupying a series of villages that spread into 20 states and on the other hand, 10,000 persons may occupy a single village in a single state. As you would agree, Urhoboland has densely populated urban areas such as Effurun-Warri axis, Sapele, Ughelli, Abraka, etc.

In any case, let's not get carried away by the banter of "most populous minority" in full view of the so called "majorities". Just accept that the logic you are attempting to use in this instance is quite flawed, regardless of whether or not Urhobo is 4th, 5th, 6th or even 10th most populous ethnic group in Nigeria!

Exactly why I refused to further engage the dude that first quoted me. I saw it as a bait for Ijaw-Urhobo ebrawl...


We are all minorities but together we are majority group

fratermathy:


Whatever you want but always remember these and respect them:

Two weeks later, him and his family were nearly killed, with some hospitalized wen his fellow Urhobo caught up to him, in his village, in Urhobo land.

http://dailypost.ng/2017/07/16/hoodlums-attack-delta-senator-omo-agege-family-members-delta/

Fratermathy u live in Asaba but full of hate.

U hate Itsekiri, u hate igbo, u hate ijaw.

Are u a mad man or just plain greedy?

hammerF:


Two weeks later, him and his family were nearly killed, with some hospitalized wen his fellow Urhobo caught up to him, in his village, in Urhobo land.

http://dailypost.ng/2017/07/16/hoodlums-attack-delta-senator-omo-agege-family-members-delta/

I guess he was nearly killed by the Urhobos who love Biafra so much that they would try to kill anyone that says no to their secret wishes to be Biafrans. Infact the UPU president and myself should be careful now so that Urhobo IPOB assassins won't locate us and murder us too.

Cc:
Efewestern
Sanchez01

Fratermathy, disclose ur identity to ur people and say any anti-Biafra comment, i dare u.

One of dem will silently plot ur death.

hammerF:
Fratermathy u live in Asaba but full of hate.

U hate Itsekiri, u hate igbo, u hate ijaw.

Are u a mad man or just plain greedy?

Such a show of desperation!

Always come out as a faceless group to denounce Biafra for ur own safety.

Whether u believe it or not their are Urhobo Biafrans.

If we conduct referendum, u will see their votes in black and white.