nengibo:
So it also shouldn't be an Asa woman's business

period. All these ethnic jingoism, a symptom of a backward country.

nextdoor84:
All this nonsense will come to an abrupt end in no time...All igbo and igboid communities will be united and never to be dispersed again.
Etched is Igbo
Ekpeye is Igbo
Omuma is igbo
Ndoni is igbo
Ndoki and asa are igbos
Ikwerre is igbo
Egbema is igbo
Ogba is igbo
Opobo is igbo. Cos king jaja and his descendants own it...if you are an ijaw man living there, you are just a tenant!!

don't know we still have intelligent ppl like u.

AtlanticBreeze:

How did I fall for another afonja masquerading as We SS

He is from Kogi state don't mind him.

Amarabae:
I know ikwerres well like the back of my hand.
My point is that Whether an ikwerre claim or deny being Igbo, it should not be an Ijaw man business.
Btw, is it not recently that Kalabari people started claiming ijaw, because back then when growing up, kalabari people hardly claim ijaw but rather just kalabari.
What about Epie-Atissa people in Bayelsa? I know some people from that area.
They are not fully claiming ijaw.
Some of them see themselves as a seperate tribe.
So sort yourselves out in the ijaw tribe, let the Igbos sort themselves out.

Degema people also deny they are part of calabari, A degema man will nearly lynch you if you call him calabari, thats why I tell people I rather talk about rivers state based on ethnicity. Me I dont even like Ikwerre people, I dont like when someigbos try to force them as igbos

Amarabae:
period.
All these ethnic jingoism, a symptom of a backward country.

Yes, but it's also as a result of people like the Op who keep spreading falsehood and hate online & offline, so accord blame to who it is due

GodIsBiafran:


He is from Kogi state don't mind him.

I've been in nairaland long enough to know afonjas masquerading as WE SS. As soon as Ekinematics responded to my comment. I knew the ewedu guzzler is one

hammerF:


I listed all the groups in Rivers that share in Port Harcourt. It is basically a no mans land.

Any metropolis that size ought to be a no mans land.

Its not a no mans land, una don finish with Lagos athink

AtlanticBreeze:

I've been in nairaland long enough to know afonjas masquerading as WE SS. As soon as Ekinematics responded to my comment. I knew the ewedu guzzler is one

Yes oh Rivers men don't have voice its only igbos that will speak for us, drug guzzler

obailala:
Why do people never get tired of this same endless argument?

Port-Harcourt is owned by the Ikwerres. To me, Ikwerres (just like the Aniomas) are pure Igbos, to the rest of the world, Ikwerres are pure Igbos. But then, the Ikwerre man claims and strongly believes he isnt Igbo, they even take offence when people refer to them as Igbos. So who are my to argue with them?... They arent children so why must this argument persist endlessly?

Exactly my point, I get ashamed when I see igbos arguing these, making this Ikwerre's feel we cant do without them. I have lived in Rivers for a long time and I think igbos should pander to the tribes that accept their igboness and leave Ikwerre alone for God's sake!!!!!!

nengibo:

Its not a no mans land, una don finish with Lagos athink

It is only a foolish man dat lives his private residence to lay claim to a metropolis. Some metropolis have even graduated to global cities.

U find people from every part of the world living there.

U are very foolish.

nengibo:

Yes oh Rivers men don't have voice its only igbos that will speak for us, drug guzzler

where are you from in Rivers, answer before I engage your ewedu clogged brain

nengibo:

Yes oh I am a land grabber that made Opobians and Ibani people in general members of all Ijaw groups,and also installed an Amanyanabo & his Alaapu council,
Are you not the same idiot that was arguing with Opobo indigens about being Ijaw on facebook, they digraced u dere now you have come to nairaland

This Edo man will you gerrout of this thread! Its none of your business. Go and play with your Afonja/Itshekiri cousins.

AtlanticBreeze:

Exactly my point, I get ashamed when I see igbos arguing these, making this Ikwerre's feel we cant do without them. I have lived in Rivers for a long time and I think igbos should pander to the tribes that accept their igboness and leave Ikwerre alone for God's sake!!!!!!

Some Ikwere people will tell u dey are Igbos and others will say Ikwere. If it was an apple, do u throw dem all away becos some u consider bad?

Igbo nationalism is on the rise becos of this type of confusion caused by the Biafra war. U are going to see a more aggressive resurgence of igboness in the coming years.

Amarabae:
I know ikwerres well like the back of my hand.
My point is that Whether an ikwerre claim or deny being Igbo, it should not be an Ijaw man business.
Btw, is it not recently that Kalabari people started claiming ijaw, because back then when growing up, kalabari people hardly claim ijaw but rather just kalabari.
What about Epie-Atissa people in Bayelsa? I know some people from that area.
They are not fully claiming ijaw.
Some of them see themselves as a seperate tribe.
So sort yourselves out in the ijaw tribe, let the Igbos sort themselves out.

Don't mind this ijaws....
ogbia is not ijaw
Yenegoa is not even ijaw
Bloody identity grabbers....in their own books..once you live on water or by waterside you automatically pass for an ijaw...time will tell!!

Amarabae:
I know ikwerres well like the back of my hand.
My point is that Whether an ikwerre claim or deny being Igbo, it should not be an Ijaw man business.
Btw, is it not recently that Kalabari people started claiming ijaw, because back then when growing up, kalabari people hardly claim ijaw but rather just kalabari.

Madam stop saying what you don't know. Kalabari is a clan, Ijaw is the tribe. Ijaws are fond of identifying with their clans because it shows where they belong. The claim of every Ijawman is traceable. While Growing up, I always say I'm Okrika but it doesn't mean I don't know that Okrika is Ijaw. A Kalahari man is a Kalabari man, an Okrika man is an Okrika man, likewise Ibani man. They are 101% Ijaw. No time has ANY Kalabari man ever said he isn't Ijaw. I have first cousins from Amachree family...

What about Epie-Atissa people in Bayelsa? I know some people from that area.
They are not fully claiming ijaw.
Some of them see themselves as a seperate tribe.
So sort yourselves out in the ijaw tribe, let the Igbos sort themselves out.

When did they tell you that? Would you mind joining the Ijaw Community on FB and post this to see reactions from the people from the clan?

You have to understand the difference between a clan and a tribe(nation). I am Okrika (clan) of Ijaw (tribe).

nextdoor84:


Don't mind this ijaws....
ogbia is not ijaw
Yenegoa is not even ijaw
Bloody identity grabbers....in their own books..once you live on water or by waterside you automatically pass for an ijaw...time will tell!!

So even Jonathan isn't Ijaw? Hahahaahahahaha



What's your name on FB, I'll like us to sample Opinion amongst the people

hammerF:


Some Ikwere people will tell u dey are Igbos and others will say Ikwere. If it was an apple, do u throw dem all a way becos some u consider bad?

Igbo nationalism is on the rise becos of this type of confusion caused by the Biafra war. U are going to see a more aggressive resurgence of igboness in the coming years.

I lived in Ikwerre long enough, majority will tell you they are not igbo, only a few minority accepts to be igbo. Let this minority spread the campaign themselves and not igbos from outside Ikwerre. There are strong igno ethnicities in Rivers like Etche, Ahoada, Omuma, Oyigbo etc that we can pander to. This ikwerre debate is taking the shine off other igbo ethnicities in Rivers. I urge all igbos to stop this nonsense

TonyeBarcanista:

So even Jonathan isn't Ijaw? Hahahaahahahaha



What's your name on FB, I'll like us to sample Opinion amongst the people

Lets meet in PH or anywhere bro...even if it's in Abuja I will be there next week...if it's Lagos, that's my second home...

I sabi ogbia wella...the indigines will tell you they are not ijaws...they accept that tag for convenience and nothing more!!

TonyeBarcanista:

It is good that you argue intelligently and not unintelligently. You run to Wikipedia when nobody will accept it for intellectual discuss except there are facts to back up.

What does Ikwerre people Italk of themselves?

The Ogbakor Ikwerre Convention, a cultural organization of Ikwerre people, in a paper presented to the Human Rights Violation Commission headed by Rtd. Justice Chukwudifu Oputa on 10 October 2001, said:“Ikwerre ethnic nationality is not and has never been a sub-group of any other tribe in Nigeria including Ndi-Igbo. There is no doubt that the advent of the British and later regionalization put Ndi-Igbo at the helm of affairs in Eastern Nigeria. This brought Ndi-Igbo into Ikwerre land. In course of time, the Igbo took advantage of their position in the then Eastern Regional Government to grab land in Ikwerre and occupy political positions such as the mayor of Port Harcourt. In the process, Ikwerre along with other minority groups were marginalized and driven to the background.”


RUMUOMASI Deceleration of Ikwerre People


" … in their meeting at Rumuomasi in 1965 the Ikwerre had, under the umbrella of a highly promising new body that was to get the Ikwerre together as a people of new and clearer vision, they had declared themselves as a people of the distinct identity of Ikwerre Ethnic Nationality - not Ibo, not Ijo, not anything else but Ikwerre, Iwhnurọhna. This was the historic Rumuomasi Declaration of 1965 (G.O.M. Tasie, 2000).


Just like Ogoni people have Ogoni Bill of Right, Ijaws have Kaiama Declaration, Urhobo have theirs same with Efik ans Ibibio, so is Ikwerre.

I'm not aware that anything has changed.

So which group in Rivers claim to be Igbo?

It was the same thing in sapele before the civil war where igbos acquired properties and had streets with igbo names but sfter the war the names were changed.If the war had not happened they would have been laying claim to sapele. It is their way.

nextdoor84:


Don't mind this ijaws....
ogbia is not ijaw
Yenegoa is not even ijaw
Bloody identity grabbers....in their own books..once you live on water or by waterside you automatically pass for an ijaw...time will tell!!

The bold is very valid. Many people don't know that GEJ is an ogbia man not iJaw. lol

hammerF:


I listed all the groups in Rivers that share in Port Harcourt. It is basically a no mans land.

Any metropolis that size ought to be a no mans land.

I hope my so called liberal Yoruba people are paying attention to this thread. I am very uncomfortable with Igbos have large communities in the SW. Because, it is only a matter of time and they will start saying - 'no mans land' 'Port Harcourt is Igbo land' 'parts of Lagos is Igbo land' etc. These people are the problem with Nigeria. The earlier we wake up and smell the coffee the better.

TonyeBarcanista:
Lol who are these people that claim Igboness? I am sure nobody will stop anybody from being what they want to be.

Amechi Rotimi for instance confirmed to be an. Igbo man in one of the presidential campaign rallies in Enugu where he challenged the GEJ that claimed Azikiwe nomenclature to speak Igbo if he has one


My dear, it is not about location but cultural similarities......whatelse makes one an Igbo if not speaking Igbo dialect as a native language?


Fulanis scatter all over Africa yet they are still fulani


What is the difference between Afam from river state and AFAM from anambra state?

Amarabae:
I know ikwerres well like the back of my hand.
My point is that Whether an ikwerre claim or deny being Igbo, it should not be an Ijaw man business.
Btw, is it not recently that Kalabari people started claiming ijaw, because back then when growing up, kalabari people hardly claim ijaw but rather just kalabari.
What about Epie-Atissa people in Bayelsa? I know some people from that area.
They are not fully claiming ijaw.
Some of them see themselves as a seperate tribe.
So sort yourselves out in the ijaw tribe, let the Igbos sort themselves out.

You are very correct. I once referred to one of our staff as Ijaw and she politely told me that she is Epie and not Ijaw, but they are all under the umbrella of Ijaw.

nextdoor84:


Lets meet in PH or anywhere bro...even if it's in Abuja I will be there next week...if it's Lagos, that's my second home...

I sabi ogbia wella...the indigines will tell you they are not ijaws...they accept that tag for convenience and nothing more!!

Now I know you are a thoroughbred Rivers man. Ignore TonyeBarcanista jumping from one party to another. His arguiung this shows he does not know anything about iJaw, Jonathan is an ogbia man, not ijaw. there is also a major conflict of identity between Degema people in Kalabari and Kalabari people.

FisifunKododada:

[s]
I hope my so called liberal Yoruba people are paying attention to this thread. I am very uncomfortable with Igbos have large communities in the SW. Because, it is only a matter of time and they will start saying - 'no mans land' 'Port Harcourt is Igbo land' 'parts of Lagos is Igbo land' etc. These people are the problem with Nigeria. The earlier we wake up and smell the coffee the better.[/s]

do your worst
http://pointblanknews.com/pbn/exclusive/yorubas-are-the-problem-with-nigeria-says-sanusi-lamido-sanusi/

greatiyk4u:



Amechi Rotimi for instance confirmed to be an. Igbo man in one of the presidential campaign rallies in Enugu where he challenged the GEJ that claimed Azikiwe nomenclature to speak Igbo if he has one

Where is the link that Amaechi said he is Igbo?

2. Irrespective of 1, has the Position of Ikwerre Apex body and their Rumuomasi Declaration changed? (Check page 0 for it)

Meanwhile, I await the link

My dear, it is not about location but cultural similarities......whatelse makes one an Igbo if not speaking Igbo dialect as a native language?

What's makes one Igbo or Yoruba is not by speaking the dialect, it is by heritage... #Blood!!!

Fulanis scatter all over Africa yet they are still fulani


What is the difference between Afam from river state and AFAM from anambra state?

The Fulanis are Fulanis not because they speak Fulano language but because they have common ancestry. If a group in Mali says they are not Fulani even though their language appear Fulani, then the man from Kano has no business disputing it. Allow people define themselves not you doing for them, that's honorable.

nextdoor84:


Lets meet in PH or anywhere bro...even if it's in Abuja I will be there next week...if it's Lagos, that's my second home...

I sabi ogbia wella...the indigines will tell you they are not ijaws...they accept that tag for convenience and nothing more!!

meeting you is like meeting every Tom Dick and Harry.

You are neither am Ijawman nor an Ogbia man. What purpose will meeting you serve other than a few drinks and fish?

Why don't we move to FB and ask Ogbia people? Lol


Again, you don't know difference between a CLAN and a tribe

es144000:
It was the same thing in sapele before the civil war where igbos acquired properties and had streets with igbo names but sfter the war the names were changed.If the war had not happened they would have been laying claim to sapele. It is their way.

My brother how man go do na?

TonyeBarcanista:

meeting you is like meeting every Tom Dick and Harry.

You are neither am Ijawman nor an Ogbia man. What purpose will meeting you serve other than a few drinks and fish?

Why don't we move to FB and ask Ogbia people? Lol


Again, you don't know difference between a CLAN and a tribe

Barca the great keyboard warrior

TonyeBarcanista:
You are talking of 1959 when there was Igbo dominated Eastern Region.

Meanwhile as far back as 1912, the Ijaws (Okrika) signed the first treaty with the British for the establishment of Portharcourt. A second treaty was entered with Rebisi Chiefs (Ikwerre) (brokered by Ijaws) in 1913. That was prior to amalgamation.

Go and collect it back oga Sir if you aren't satisfied with the status quo

You signed the 1st treaty with mouth?
Abeg come with prove, did any clan from the East renamed any Village there? What was the name

FisifunKododada:


I hope my so called liberal Yoruba people are paying attention to this thread. I am very uncomfortable with Igbos have large communities in the SW. Because, it is only a matter of time and they will start saying - 'no mans land' 'Port Harcourt is Igbo land' 'parts of Lagos is Igbo land' etc. These people are the problem with Nigeria. The earlier we wake up and smell the coffee the better.

But e don tey way dem ipob declare Lagos a "No Man's Land" na. Na Kano, Warri and Benin be next

FisifunKododada:

I hope my so called liberal Yoruba people are paying attention to this thread. I am very uncomfortable with Igbos have large communities in the SW. Because, it is only a matter of time and they will start saying - 'no mans land' 'Port Harcourt is Igbo land' 'parts of Lagos is Igbo land' etc. These people are the problem with Nigeria. The earlier we wake up and smell the coffee the better.

FK wa worry ara e. Eboes are our wives. We have been re-setting their flatskulls since pre-independence. We flogged them in Akure when they decided to act a fool. You saw the way they humbled themselves when we told them they would be thrown into Lagos lagoon. No matter how loud a dog is, it can never over-power its owner. We own Eboes and they know it. Let them try dat nonsense they are trying in Port Harcourt in the SW and see how Sango/Ogun will use their flat heads for calabash.