There is no plausible justification whatsoever for a suppose credible country like america to be dealing with a known fugitive like babangida in the interest of millions of civil nigerians.

Nigeria is slipping into the present state of oblivion because of people like IBB,so getting him to help solve the problems in anyway is like adding petrol to a house on fire instead of water.

However,in reality,america is of no use to nigeria,if we are living creatures that breathes and reasons,we should be able to solve our problems without involving america or any other so-called developed world,we should be dealing with america on our terms as a sovereign not them telling us what to do as if we are police dogs,mumus.

Abagworo:

ibb did his best even though it wasnt good enough.america consulting him is no news since he is a major power broker in nigeria.

slyfoxxjoe:

if this story is true then i must say it is in sharp cotradiction to everything obama preached and stood for during his campaign (which is normal for a politician anyway) why bad moyth and pretend like u have no intrest in nigeria then turn around and send your top deligates to meet with nigerian officials for "hidden agenda's" why advocate democracy then send your assistant secretary of state to meet with the worst tyrant known in nigerian history? any negotiations beetwen the US and nigeria should be done with the current president or foriegn affairs minister not a past leader and a corrupt one for that matter!, they should respect our constitution and soveriegnty enough to relate with us the formal and appropriate way!, i love obama a lot but i think he is begining to make some realy silly decisions.

Iyke-D:

@Afam,

As per injecting the Chinese into the discussion, I believe that was in response to earlier comments that Nigeria need to handover its
oil to the Chinese as supposed to the likes of Chevron. My point was no matter who we are dealing with, they will always exploit the
foolishness of our leaders. For all we knock the Americans and for all their faults, they do have a better track record on human rights
than the Russians or the Chinese. US companies do try to reflect some of those values even outside the US (maybe not all the time).

Iyke-D=topic=395996.msg5495816#msg5495816 date=1265905154:

I am not surprised my point was lost on you.  In my very first comment I made no mention of whether I had a US visa or passport, just stating the facts as I saw them regarding the reality of Nigerian politics and the US. I was insulted for being an "azz kisser" for America because of the visa they gave me.  All you seem to do is engage in name-calling, you never address any single issue. Do you have any idea how silly you sound?

In any case, here you are telling us how "successful" you are in South Africa and I guess I am supposed to be so impressed by your
"success". You have proceeded to tell me how you have been traveling to the US since you were 13 until you turned 30? Oh, and you
are a "business man". What do I care? I don't need your biography, this is just an internet forum! Christ!

Yes, I know Nigeria will be saved by the Chinese or whoever from the "blood sucking US government". Terrorists invading your country?
Are you for real? So from age 13 you were traveling to a terrorist country until you turned 30? Please take your medications or if you don't
have any see a doctor. [b]Better yet, enroll in a good school in South Africa (there are none left in your country) because it appears you need[/b]it (even though you are a very successful businessman). You are not rooted in reality.

Dude
Azz Kissers
Fxcking
Can't do jack

Can't get enough of US music videos or films?

citizenY=topic=395996.msg5495816#msg5495816 date=1265905154:

@Shoot2kill.

One question only. WHY di the Americans not consult you?

Answer- You are inconsequential, out of your depth and even outside Nigeria and
too young to even know IBB and Nigerian terrain. Na word of mouth you hear.

You are squeezing a few coins in South Africa, so what? This IBB still has clout.

Otherwise, I like your patriotism but be more practical.

texazzpete=topic=395996.msg5495816#msg5495816 date=1265905154:

@Shoot2Kill
When making your points, can't you at least TRY and sound intelligent?

Anyway, the article clearly says IBB and other influential politicians will be contacted. Singling out IBB was merely to generate a sensationalist headline.

Finally, no matter how many rabid, paranoid fantasies you have about the CIA, it's obvious that America's main concern is not with the oil, but the long term stability of Nigeria. An unstable Nigeria will be a massive breeding ground for the next generation of Islamic terrorists. And no-one wants that.

I beg to differ. Was it not the same Obama that drew criticism during the campaign for insisting that he'd talk to the 'enemies' if that would bring peace? is it not the same Obama who is amenable to reaching out to moderate members of the Taliban if that could end the war in Afghanistan early enough, and if that could help keep out the infinitely worse Al Qaeda?
if Obama can dialogue with the North Koreans (with their human rights record), why not IBB?

Abagworo:

@shoot2kill.why are you so anti-american?try to appreciate their role and sacrifices in global stability.

pcmecom:

@abagworo
I know you wont believe america has fought 50 wars since the end of the second world war, it sounds like another conspiracy theory!!!
maybe you can start your own research from here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_military_operations

my brother open your eyes and begin to see beyond the news headlines!!!

Shoot2Kill:

Bros this has nothing to do with “anti – American” , this is about my home country. I love my country more than any country in the world and i will not allow these demonic group of people to destroy it.

I don’t hate America as a country ,i hate the American Government because over the years their foreign policy has not changed. We Nigerians are monkeys to them and they can swat us like a fly if they want to ,that is why we must be united and resist them. They should leave us alone.

For your information i come from a family that contributed to the woes of Nigeria and i rebelled against the corrupt politicians in my family. That is the kind of person i am .I am not supposed to worry about the ordinary man but i do because that is just my nature. I hate to see my fellow Nigerians suffer just because one capitalist country wants to secure it's hold on our OIL.

GLOBAL STABILTY you say ? What Global Stabilty ?

They invented the HIV virus in an effort to kill Africans!

IRAQ was a peaceful country until they invaded !

Afghanistan was a peaceful country until they invaded !

Angola was a peaceful country until they sponsored UNITA !

They Supplied the South Africa Apartheid government with Computers and the HIV virus (which was used as a bio-weapon to infect millions of black babies all in the name of controlling Africa’s overblown population).The South African government listened to former apartheid agents who openly made this claim to the truth and reconciliation commission.

They armed the Afghans with AK-47s and stingers

They developed the first Nuke

They supplied guns to Liberian war lords

They sponsored rebels all over Africa

They killed Abiola

A weapon that can cause an earthquake(known as HAARP) has been developed by the United States (it was used for haiti)

The list is endless……………….


Have you forgotten AFRICOM? How can you not see that America will cause more problems in Nigeria by dealing with IBB and his cohort.

Are you telling me that in a nation of 150 Million IBB is the only one they can talk to ,what about Jonathan ,why did they not talk to Jonathan. I will answer that for you. Because he is if from Niger Delta. They don't trust him.

Who knows maybe they will threaten Jonathan with invasion and he will step aside to allow babangida onto the "throne".

Why do you think Al Qaeda is fighting the US now ? Because they wanted to control their country after the cold war and the afghans resisted. Why did the United states not capture Osama when they had a chance ? Because they are not really after him ,they just want to maintain their presence in Afghanistan.

Listen bro ,i am not just blowing steam here, I have contacts in the intelligence community and news coming to me is that the united states in currently building secret missile defence systems in a remote part of Afghanistan. These are being built to counter any missile attack by IRAN.I know you may not believe it but my source is solid and has never failed me.

If care is not taken the USA will gain access to Nigeria in full and built a military base in the north in the name of helping us deal with Islamic militants. We will be forever imprisoned by the US forces. The reason they are coming to see IBB is because they want to discuss the possibility of them building a fully functioning military base in the nigeria where they can maintain a presence that will scare countries like Libya and any other Islamic countries in north Africa. They will also be able to launch up to the minute air raids on Niger Delta militants from that position with Air force unmanned drones. Those in Niger Delta calling for the USA to intervene are very silly. The USA is their enemy because “they” threaten the supply of OIL to the USA.

The should go an ask the lingala people of DRC how they were massacred by Mobutu Seseko hit squads under the order of the CIA all in an effort to supply the united sates Fort Knox and Jewish-American mafia outfits with tons and tons of cheap diamonds. Remember that new OIL deposit have been found in Nigeria along with New gold deposit. We are in a rough ride if we don’t wake up now and cry foul. Once Babangida gains momentum, nobody will be able to stop him. The USA will assign Israeli trained body guards to protect him form any assignation attempts and he will be installed into the presidency just like they did in 1985.

pcmecom:

I am happy some people are beginning to see beyond the smoke screen!!

@shoot2kill, You have really done your home work, I am proud of you.

America indeed have weapons that can generate earthquakes, tsunami, hurricanes, floods and famine. These weapons are known as tectonic weapons and was first discovered by a scientist named nicolas tesla. Today tesla works still continues in a research facility called H.A.A.R.P.

I know some people would be reading this and by saying this is another conspiracy theory or even come to the conclusion that I may be nuts!!, I urge them to do their own research

http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/

http://www.haarp.net/

http://www.livevideo.com/video/3DDCA3ECDDB44895AD4E98868C7BEAFC/haarp-project-bluebeam-pt-ii.aspx

NB: Like I said in my previous post, I am not anti-american, I only dislike US foreign policy. It should be noted that the above weapons and technology is not only exclusive to the US, russia and china also have the technology

It seems like we have a lot of keyboard militants here. You guys need to cool down and understand how the world works. I'm no apologist for IBB, Obama or the US. USA is only trying to move fast as Nigeria is fast becoming a fertile ground for Al-Qaida, emergence of military government, civil war and/or worse. US has to move fast to protect its interest (oil, potential 120 million refuge problem that will destabilise West and Central Africa, Osama Bin Laden training ground, etc). They don’t have to wait until Nigeria becomes a post civil war Afghanistan, Somalia or Yugoslavia before they act. The consequences are just too dire to contemplate.

Since we didn't seem to know how to put our house in order (it took intervention of international governments before our senate and house decided to resolve Yaradua's absence), the US has made it there business to manage our house for us. How are they going to do that if not by contacting the guys with political clout in Nigeria. Talking about political clout in Nigeria, IBB will be in the top 3 (you know the other 2)! I guess the US is acting based on the intelligence from its spy agencies.

Who had a hand in the removal of Shagari? Who removed Buhari? Who annuled June 12? Who set the stage for the emergence of Abacha? Who had a hand in the emergence of Obasanjo (second coming)? Whose blessing was required for the selection of Yaradua? Which two people do you need to consult to resolve the opposition to Jonathan taking over?

Of course all animals are equal but some are more equal than others. It is wisdom to know that this is very true in all developing, underdeveloped and 'undeveloped' countries of the world.

riversman:

u hate america soo much why dont u go and protest at thier embassy? i bet u are listening to american music/ driving american cars, hisss

Bros this has nothing to do with “anti – American” , this is about my home country. I love my country more than any country in the world and i will not allow these demonic group of people to destroy it.

Eddeux:

ALL THAT I SEE ON THIS PAGE IS A BUNCH OF BS!! WHAT HAVE AMERICA DONE TO AFRICA THAT THE AFRICANS OR EUROPEANS HAVEN'T DONE AS WELL? It isn't like we colonized u like the euros did.
It's already being destroyed by imbeciles like urself. 40 years to develop, yet still a mess. stop blaming others for your country's misfortunes!