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Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by AreaFada2: 8:24am On Aug 22, 2017 |
ObalufonIII:Ok. I take moving with the times as the key message. I also think the "universality" of the word Oba has increased its attractiveness in Yorubaland. Oba became a stand alone superior title after Ogiso era in Benin. Pre-Eweka I it was Oba-Godo as Ogiso, from Eweka it became Oba. I believe the other matter is that there was no other ruler called Oba as a title within core Benin territory or areas that originally came under Benin rule. The lesser title Enogie (mostly princely dukes, Oba's younger brothers/younger sons made provincial rulers) & chiefs (Ogie) were devolved to those people. For example, in Esanland, Onoje are the normal titles of traditional rulers there. Orodje, Ovie & other titles in Urhobo land. The first Olu of Warri (Prince Ginuwa of Benin) only got the title "Ogiame" or Lord/ruler of the Seas from his father Oba Olua when leaving Benin. That set the title Oba apart long ago already among Edoid people. Whereas Oba title seems ubiquitous in Yorubaland. The Yoruba who sees many Baales turned Obas everywhere in Yorubaland may not readily realise the singular significance of it in Benin. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by Alexis11: 8:37am On Aug 22, 2017 |
sunsplash99: Oga relax, No be quarrel.... Lol Proximity is a factor here. Akoko Edo is close enough to Akoko land (the biggest) in Ondo state and they have mixed together for lonnnng. It does not make them Yoruba. Funny enough even in Yoruba land, if somebody from Owo (in Ondo State) decided to speak his dialect to people in Iwo ( in Osun state), majority will not have an idea of what he's talking about. Was there Ondo akoko or Edo akoko before Lugard came? |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by Alexis11: 8:43am On Aug 22, 2017 |
KingOvoramwen1: Like I said, you are a kid and very insignificant..... Go to that Ibadan and see how many real Edolites are doing something good with their lives. 3 Likes |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by KingOvoramwen1(m): 8:45am On Aug 22, 2017 |
Alexis11: Only a kid would argue the age of a grown man Like I said oily ewedu is always an option for you |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by SoldierBoy1(m): 8:45am On Aug 22, 2017 |
This nairaland breeds hatred filled people, because I never knew of Edo guys having problems with Yorubas until I saw comments on nairaland. I have a lot of edo boys in school as friends and we are close guys, but then it seems the version of human beings on NL is different. Though I respect some guys here. 2 Likes |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by SoldierBoy1(m): 8:48am On Aug 22, 2017 |
Alexis11:Guy just leave am. Ignore |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by ademijuwonlo(f): 8:51am On Aug 22, 2017 |
AreaFada2:In Yoruba we have "Oloye" (chiefs) and they can be further identified base on their portfolios e.g Balogun, Iyaloja, Otunba etc. They can be called by Oloye as well as by their official title that signify their positions but note that they are Oloyes irrespective of their titles. The Oba word shows that the king reigns over his domain while Alafin , Ooni, Alake etc are the titles for the Oba' seats in their domains. Since there are plenty obas in Yoruba land these titles help differentiate each Oba 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by Alexis11: 8:51am On Aug 22, 2017 |
KingOvoramwen1: Thanks for this. At least, any Yoruba that sees this can now decide whether to take you serious or not Where is Myndd44 sef.... Lol 1 Like |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by KingOvoramwen1(m): 8:52am On Aug 22, 2017 |
SoldierBoy1: You yorubers claim Igbo's hate you, Edo's hate you, urhobo hates you, ..... But have you sat down one day to reflect on what you people are doing that might disgust others? |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by KingOvoramwen1(m): 8:55am On Aug 22, 2017 |
ademijuwonlo: Lol where you trying to make a point out of all you wrote up there?...... Lmao gosh you should not have even typed at all |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by SoldierBoy1(m): 8:56am On Aug 22, 2017 |
KingOvoramwen1:I never said any tribe hates Yorubas, I only said it's only on nairaland I see guys manifesting hatred for other tribes. 3 Likes |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by KingOvoramwen1(m): 8:59am On Aug 22, 2017 |
SoldierBoy1: Yes because like said earlier you yorubers jump on every thread when its very obvious your inputs are neither wanted or needed! |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by ademijuwonlo(f): 9:00am On Aug 22, 2017 |
KingOvoramwen1:Did i complain to you that my hand pains or what.....So, why are you taking paracetamol for someone's headache? We all have right to express our views and I didn't stop you from saying something others could learn from. Please contribute meaningfully next time and not sarcastically attack others. Do have a productive day 1 Like |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by Alexis11: 9:00am On Aug 22, 2017 |
KingOvoramwen1: Hahahahaha.... Now this is funny! I've never seen any Yoruba man dead or alive that said this. Wait, why am I hearing this from you first 4 Likes |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by scholes0(m): 9:11am On Aug 22, 2017 |
SoldierBoy1: lol, he is here formulating cock and bull story based on the state of his own mind. He is projecting the state of his own mind about Yorubas to other tribes, as well as to Yorubas themselves. saying "Yorubas said" or are complaining of being hated, when in actuality no Yoruba ever said such. looool Nairaland na waa. 3 Likes |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by scholes0(m): 9:13am On Aug 22, 2017 |
Alexis11: loool, I knowww right! Which Yoruba anywhere has time to be complaining about imaginary hate from every corner, either real haters or otherwise ? We are proud! we are not Igbos, they are the ones who complain of being hated by everybody, them against the world. 7 Likes |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by Dindondin(m): 9:53am On Aug 22, 2017 |
OoduaLeke:Don't mind the Binis. They are confused history twisters 3 Likes |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by SoldierBoy1(m): 9:55am On Aug 22, 2017 |
KingOvoramwen1:I don't understand you. Anyways God Bless. |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by SoldierBoy1(m): 9:57am On Aug 22, 2017 |
scholes0:We have never said such my brother so I don't get him. God Bless. 1 Like |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by Homeboiy: 10:03am On Aug 22, 2017 |
jojothaiv: baba iam late oo I was away for some days |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by Nobody: 10:07am On Aug 22, 2017 |
I am still interested in the location of Igbo Orunmila in the present Ijebu Land. If Osemawe & Ebumawe were twins and now Osemawe is the ruler of Ondo Kingdom while Ebumawe is just ruler of AgoIwoye in Ijebu land, we need to know the history of Ijebu Igbo, a town close to AgoIwoye. Igbo Orunmila might be around this area. Is Ebumawe subordinate to Awujale? Ijebus should tell us & why? 1 Like |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by jojothaiv(m): 10:10am On Aug 22, 2017 |
Homeboiy:walahi you no late, just try read wetin the Op write, na d exact thing wey u talk 4 1 thread na him d Op elaborate o! |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by Homeboiy: 10:11am On Aug 22, 2017 |
jojothaiv: OK boss let me check it out |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by einsteine(m): 10:16am On Aug 22, 2017 |
You are clearly the outsider here. My mom is from there and I don't understand where you got your narrative of marginalization from. Don't they have someone representing them at the Federal House of Representation? Haven't they held top positions both nationally and in Edo State? Only an outsider would keep saying Akoko Edo and Akoko in Edo State have anything to do with each other. They are just neighbors, that's all. As neighbors, many have learnt the yoruba language and even adopted Yoruba names. It doesn't mean they are Yorubas. Go to Somorika, Uneme Nekhua or Igarra and tell me their language is Yoruba or they are kin to Yorubas. There is a village called Sobe on the road from Akure to Benin. Are they Akures because they are close to Akure and can speak Yoruba? Kindly explain details of the marginalization you keep talking about. scholes0: 2 Likes |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by DateMynd44(m): 12:39pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
KingOvoramwen1:shut up. How dare u compare Edo with the Great Akwa Ibom. Edo state with a very useless culture which makes u people backward an underdeveloped. Edo state needs to be re-colonized again 1 Like |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by Nobody: 1:52pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
AreaFada2: Thank you! The term 'Oba' appears reversed in Yoruba land & Benin land with regards to position and use. Sadly, we have Obas in Yoruba land who are not deeply rooted in tradition before getting to the throne. Hence, for them anything goes. While Oba in Yoruba land was ubiquitous amongst rulers below the paramount ruler, in Benin land Oba is rather paramount. |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by scholes0(m): 2:18pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
Kindly explain details of the marginalization you keep talking about. [/quote] einsteine:First and foremost, stop the BS! the fact that your mother hails from there does not mean you are versed in the people, their desires and their aspirations, nor does it mean you know much about them. You are clearly the outsider here, because if you were really connected you would now that Akoko Edos complain bitterly of marginalization and lack of development/attention from government. Did you even read the first page of this thread, a girl there mentioned that they are marginalized and you are asking how? maybe you should ask them why they feel as such, especially since your other's relatives would be able to answer you effectively. Somorika and Uneme speak their languages as well as Yoruba / pidgin as languages of wider communication. Igarra does the same except that their local language is a dialect of Ebira. If were to go purely by language I think we better start getting ready to make Igarra a Kogi state enclave in Edo state then, abi na? The Ijaws and Itsekiri lands in Edo should be transferred to Delta. Secondly, Sobe is not close to Akure, Sobe is close to Owo, and even closer to Ifon. they speak a language similar to owan dialects as well as Yoruba language. I won't call them Yorubas unless they call themselves such. Ethnic identity is fluid and subject to influences. They are not Akures either. Akure is not an ethnic group, Akures are Ekitis culturally. That area is part of the Ondo-Edo border region, and there are influences from both in the entire area as well. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by einsteine(m): 2:22pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
Since your reply was devoid of specifics as to how the people in Akoko Edo are being marginalized, there is no need to continue this discussion any further. Keep continuing with your faulty notion that Akoko Edos are supposed to be in Ondo State. scholes0: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by KingOvoramwen1(m): 2:25pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
[[s]quote author=scholes0 post=59720025] Kindly explain details of the marginalization you keep talking about. You are clearly the outsider here. My mom is from there and I don't understand where you got your narrative of marginalization from. Don't they have someone representing them at the Federal House of Representation? Haven't they held top positions both nationally and in Edo State? Only an outsider would keep saying Akoko Edo and Akok to Ifon. they speak a language similar to owan dialects as well as Yoruba language. I won't call them Yorubas unless they call themselves such. Ethnic identity is fluid and subject to influences. They are not Akures either. Akure is not an ethnic group, Akures are Ekitis culturally. That area is part of the Ondo-Edo border region, and there are influences from both in the entire area as well. [/quote][/s] TRASH AS USUAL I NEVER EXPECTED LESS THEY SPEAK EDIOD NOTHING LIKE YORUBA THERE!!/...... WAIT OO HAVE U PPL NOT BEING REBUFFED , REJECTED AND DISCARDED ENOUGH? GOD FORBID ALL THIS ATTACHEE OO THEY ARE EDOS !! SIMPLE AS THE EWEDU AND OIL YOU EAT |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by KingOvoramwen1(m): 2:27pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
einsteine: That kid is very messed up in the head with inferiority complex you better just troll or ignore this rubbish he types |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by scholes0(m): 3:36pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
einsteine: Since you want to be spoonfed. Nigeria: Akoko Edo LG Neglected, Marginalised http://allafrica.com/stories/200309300418.html Akoko-Edo in Diaspora Protest Non-inclusion in Development Projects It is alarming to note that this is not a systemic approach at neglecting one of the oldest local government councils in the country. If, we from the South-South are shouting of marginalization and neglect in the entity called Nigeria, what the state government has done to Akoko-Edo is worse than the neglect of Niger-Delta region over the year. It is common knowledge that Akoko-Edo is well endowed with mineral resources and arable land for agricultural plantation products. The mineral resources are currently being extracted and shipped out of the area to develop other parts of the state and country. This is similar to what is presently happening in the oil-producing areas of Niger-Delta.https://www.facebook.com/AfenmaiConnect/photos/pb.1421216244849264.-2207520000.1472695653./1565888443715376/?type=3&theater EDO NORTH SENATORIAL DISTRICT: THE IMPERATIVES FOR THE AKOKO - EDO PEOPLE The issues as I see them are these: No Akoko - Edo person nay Igarra has ever been senator in the history of the senatorial district and that is serious; conservatively you need at least the sum of Three Hundred Million Naira to get to the Senate unfortunately again; the hard work begins after you are elected senator; you need men of influence and power to get things done for your constituency at whatever level how much more the senate in a country where the already scarce resources are surreptitiously deployed to build personal empires and fiefdoms; the only thing constant in life is change and men do change for good or for worse; Victor Hugo wrote "a man is not idle because he is absorbed in thought. There is a visible labour and there is an invisible labour"; no privileged class ever lets power go on a platter; it must be wrestled from their grip; Akoko - Edo is the oldest Local Government Area in Nigeria today; other local divisions in the old Midwest State are now 2 - 3 Local Government Areas.http://random-stephens..ca/2010/07/edo-north-senatorial-district.html Akoko-Edo is the largest, is the most marginalised and probably the most impoverished local government in Nigeria and it will continue to be like that until we change its configuration and the only way to do is to create additional local governments.https://guardian.ng/politics/akpatason-has-not-done-enough-for-re-election-says-bankole-balogun/ What say you? 4 Likes |
Re: The Uneme People And The Curse Of Oba Egbeka Of Benin Empire by Nobody: 4:04pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
babaolofin: I am still waiting for response, nobody has responded, people are avoiding this question. The relationship between Osemawe & Ebumawe as twins and if Awujale has any historical supremacy over Ebumawe before the creation of Ijebu division by the colonial master. Igbo Orunmila might be around the present Ijebu Igbo & AgoIwoye |
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