YelloweWest:

You see. This is the hypocrisy from u guys I don't understand.
What exactly to you mean by 50/50?
Just 50/50 in terms of financial obligations?
Dose the woman have as much time as the man to work?
Who will raise the kids??
Will the man agree to do 50% of house chores?

Take me for example. I'm a lawyer but can't work for now cos I'm pregnant. I'll be out of a job for awhile while I nurse my kid.
I have 5 other young children.
My husband is the sole breadwinner every dimr that he makes belongs to our family. HE HAS NEVER COMPLAINED!
though we are quite comfortable money is not an issue cos he is quite successful, I can't imagine my husband asking me to contribute financial.
He brings home the bacon and I cook it! Everyone is happy!
I have businesses that I run which bring me a steady income but my husband does not care about my money! He always calls it groundnut money and that I and the children are his responsibility.
Why is it that men are no longer like this??
This is how my dad was with my mum.
I consider myself very lucky having a husband like my dad. Unlike men who no longer take pride in taking care of their family. Shame!

supersystemsng:


I relate with older ladies...Bro, my female friends are older ladies...they're cool

Back to the discuss[b], most of our personalities thesedays are the aftermath of what we pick from the media, or society and are not values that have been tried and tested[/b]. Sadly, it produces ego, ego produces character, character pride, pride illusion, illusion false beliefs, false beliefs false indoctrination, false indoctrination, false existence, the end point is pain, sorrow,tears...We have issues coming...And if the upcoming generation doesn't prepare for the barrage, it would cause massive after-effect...It's glaring...it's coming...let's wach and see

pocohantas:


I don't do hate tags! Especially when it is misunderstood by people. I believe in fairness and mutual respect.

It's only on NL they call me 'feminist'...their definition of feminist, just because my views don't always agree with theirs. I hate subjugation of humans, I guess that makes me a feminist in the eyes of NL males

XKZ:


The fact that people ask for fairness (whether based on gender, or race) doesn't mean they're pushing mediocrity.

People have biases and where there isn't an active means of maintaining balance people in power tend to favour those who look like them. A man inherently believes a man will do a better job when presented with two candidates (male and female) with exactly the same characteristics.

With respect to your opinion on women in coding kindly read the article below.

http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2014/10/06/345799830/the-forgotten-female-programmers-who-created-modern-tech

https://iq.intel.com/how-female-eniac-programmers-pioneered-the-software-industry/

Gerrard59:


I can understand the biases (same applies to female executives). However, affirmative action does not solve it. As businesses, the aim is to make profit. If a recruiter believes employing a (fe)male will do the job and brings forth profits, so be it.

No doubt, females pioneered the industry. However, we have less females opting for Computer Science, Mathematics, Physics degrees, which are the disciplines these firms recruit their technical hands from. Instead of stipulating laws and creating spaces, young lasses should be encouraged to study such courses/disciplines and invariably, firms will have a wider pool to pick/choose from.

How come no one demands gender parity in welding, truck-driving, construction jobs?

Obalende:
People who have lived in post-feminist societies (Sweden, Australia, US, Canada) reportedly say not good for men and women so know what you are getting into guys and girls... sky rocket single motherhood numbers, no fault any time at will divorce because the girl is "unhappy", guys don't talk to girls again for fear of harassment claims, gender parity over talent on the job market, complete destruction of marriage, gender fluidity/ gender expression etc, girls can wear whatever they want (Im not saying they cant oh I think its a good thing) and dress like prostitutes, sleeping around on the increase, dysfunctional children. So guys be careful wat u ask for.....

Futureberry:
same basics happen to women too, try as much as possible to cover both genders, don't focus on one,people, me in particular will perceived you as a self centered advocate

talk2hb1:

Abeg lets marry if you are still single, and come and pay Groom Price. My List is ready 5years ago, just waiting for Missy Right to come along
Mind you, you will do the proposing Ooo!!!

XKZ:


The difference is that decision making positions are already heavily dominated by men. So male bias has a bigger effect than female bias.

OrdercityWeb:

Aren't you contradicting yourself?

Yonce:



Your entire post reeks of immaturity, I'm sorry to say. This isn't a woman vs man situation but you're making it so.

We should be encouraging our women to show interest in jobs like this and even supporting them. . . .not trying to be sarcastic at their expense. If my daughter shows interest in joining the army tomorrow, it's left for me to encourage her to be the best in her field and not dumb her down to a role acceptable to society.

Yonce:

Sure, the real question is, are you man enough?

Yonce:

As I said, all this is strictly based on if the man is worthy.

PDPGuy:
Feminism can never really take root in Nigeria until the bride-price tradition is abolished.

There is no way a man would pay bride-price for his wife, and expect to only be a co-equal partner in the marriage even if she works a full time job.

So, a Nigerian man will always lay claim to being the natural head of house if he is married to a Naija woman.

That's why most Nigerian men who are married to European/American women fully accept the notion that they are co-equal partners in the marriage because there was no bride-price involved, and the women equally foot half the bills for running the home. It's also highly likely that the woman paid for the dates on some occasions, unlike in Nigeria where the man is expected to foot 99.9% of the bills on dates.

Odunharry:
True talk pocahontas.. It somehow bruise their ego but truth is only few ladies will go Dutch.
Left to me, i won't be comfortable if a lady is the one paying my bills.
The truth is, I don't usually collect stuffs from ladies back then. I have made adjustment though.

It's not bad if a lady decide to foot the bill once a while though.

IamEmem:


No I am not. What am saying is that women should be empowered and not relegated, neither should women empowerment erode their primary duties especially the home front.

talk2hb1:

That brings us to the Question what do you mean by Man Enough? (Gender Disparity), My 12Years Old Daughter, should be a proof.

What makes a man worthy, what makes a woman worthy.
Its Obvious Feminist doesn't know what they want, they will want to be a feminist when they want.

XKZ:


When it was seen as a easy job (compared to hardware) suitable for women, it had lots of women because they were encouraged to do it.
When it became lucrative they were discouraged.

As you pointed out women need to be encouraged to go into the field and it is creating spaces and opportunities for them in those fields that would encourage them join the fields.

You've raised a good question about welding and construction jobs... Maybe the fact no one is pushing gender parity in those industries indicates that where they make requests, such requests are actually objective and merit based

supersystemsng:


the feminist struggle needs to be clearly defined..this i second

pocohantas:


...But the men are the ones collecting the bride price na....see trouble o. As for paying on dates...one has been truthful enough to admit most Nigerian men don't like it, they just say it for the sake of saying it. Practically, Nigerian men love to be in control of every.

These things are what makes our men feel like men, I won't be surprised if that's why the very traditional ones among them don't want it removed. They'll feel emasculated.



Thanks for saying the truth. There are actually women spending on their men, it's just not the norm here. So, it's expected they hush it to protect the ego of their men and not come off as domineering.

talk2hb1:

That brings us to the Question what do you mean by Man Enough? (Gender Disparity), My 12Years Old Daughter, should be a proof.

What makes a man worthy, what makes a woman worthy.
Its Obvious Feminist doesn't know what they want, they will want to be a feminist when they want.

Not0fThis:
Nigeria of all places. That's a big NO.

IamEmem:


No I am not. What am saying is that women should be empowered and not relegated, neither should women empowerment erode their primary duties especially the home front.

OrdercityWeb:

The 2 bolded portions are contradictory actually.

Cc:pocohantas

Odunharry:

You just giving excuse for the female folks.. man for.

supersystemsng:


the feminist struggle needs to be clearly defined..this i second

Odunharry:

You just giving excuse for the female folks.. man for.

OrdercityWeb:

Yes

OrdercityWeb:

The 2 bolded portions are contradictory actually.

Cc:pocohantas

Odunharry:

You just giving excuse for the female folks.. Alot of them won't and can't spend even of they have the cash. Many will still tell u wat is he man for.

YelloweWest:

You see. This is the hypocrisy from u guys I don't understand.
What exactly to you mean by 50/50?
Just 50/50 in terms of financial obligations?
Dose the woman have as much time as the man to work?
Who will raise the kids??
Will the man agree to do 50% of house chores?

Take me for example. I'm a lawyer but can't work for now cos I'm pregnant. I'll be out of a job for awhile while I nurse my kid.
I have 5 other young children.
My husband is the sole breadwinner every dimr that he makes belongs to our family. HE HAS NEVER COMPLAINED!
though we are quite comfortable money is not an issue cos he is quite successful, I can't imagine my husband asking me to contribute financial.
He brings home the bacon and I cook it! Everyone is happy!
I have businesses that I run which bring me a steady income but my husband does not care about my money! He always calls it groundnut money and that I and the children are his responsibility.
Why is it that men are no longer like this??
This is how my dad was with my mum.
I consider myself very lucky having a husband like my dad. Unlike men who no longer take pride in taking care of their family. Shame!

GreatEvilBeast:
What else do these women want
In my opinion they're just asking for Superiority not equality..

Quote me and die

OrdercityWeb:

Meaning?
Elucidate please.

Frankenstein:
Women rights and enlightenment are more important today where wife battering, forced marriages, career suppression and barring women from inheritance are rife.

Although, some women have focused on misplaced priorities but that doesn't negate the need to free African women from social subjugation.

Frankenstein:
Women rights and enlightenment are more important today where wife battering, forced marriages, career suppression and barring women from inheritance are rife.

Although, some women have focused on misplaced priorities but that doesn't negate the need to free African women from social subjugation.

JONNYSPUTE:
Not relevant. Am yet to understand what exactly our women want. Equality or superiority? U want equality but u can't help ur husband pay house rent,school fees,buy foodstuff Nd do all other things that men do but u want him to help u wash the dishes,clean the house Nd bath babies. Pls women define exactly what u want.