ajokebelle:


Thank you.
But if we are now in the era of grace, then why do we refer back to something's in the books that were in the era of law.

First,,you need to understand that the law was not destroyed, the law was fulfilled. Man could not keep the law that was one of the reasons why Christ came. Christ offered himself as a sacrificial lamb by taking our place and dying on the cross, so if anyone believes on the finished works of Christ on the cross he has fulfilled the law and has become righteous. He fulfilled the law through his faith in Christ Jesus. Apostle Paul says if we live by the law.. Christ profits us nothing because we have rejected God's gift.

Because the old covenant or testament contains the era of the law doesn't mean it should be wiped out from the bible. it was placed there for our knowledge,, that we might learn.

But as Christians we don't live by the law .the law brings sin.
And anyone that sins is not born of God.

Christ took the penalty of the law upon himself. So we actually paid the price of the law but we paid the price of the law in Christ.

pastoray:



You are not a pastor.
Your conclusion on each passages shared are heretic.
Prov 4:7

You're falling about the original author coz I didn't write the Post originally.

lionness:
The Bible is Defunct...The only thing it preaches that is Eternal is Faith...Faith is timeless...but everything else in it, follow at your own peril.
Now, back to the issue of taking a wife: use your brain...and your heart...if you like, follow the Bible...take a prostitute, or go and serve some Baba Olowo for 7 years, and another 7 years, and waste 14 years of your life trying to get some rich man's daughter...the bible tells stories of brave old dead prophets, we are not in their time...this is 2017, not 100 BC or 100 AD...even if Jesus Christ was to come back, his preaching and teachings will be entirely different from those in the Bible, and these current flocks of pastors will be the same people to kill him.

so what's the way forward if all the articles and description of faith in the bible are archaic? if its advice on how to choose a wife can not be followed what else can be trusted? even the so called faith being preached in the Bible is strange to what Jesus preached. its more of what Paul said. and most times they are at polar end of each other.

my advise to you...

Take a look at what the Qur'an says on all issues. and compare them.
NOTE: not what they say it says.

Your salvation is in your own hands.

Yunus2012:


so what's the way forward if all the articles and description of faith in the bible are archaic? if its advice on how to choose a wife can not be followed what else can be trusted? even the so called faith being preached in the Bible is strange to what Jesus preached. its more of what Paul said. and most times they are at polar end of each other.

my advise to you...

Take a look at what the Qur'an says on all issues. and compare them.
NOTE: not what they say it says.

Your salvation is in your own hands.

Qur'an

(33:50) O Prophet, We have made lawful for you your wives whose bridal dues you have paid, 87 and the slave-girls you possess from among the prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and maternal aunts who have migrated with you, and a believing woman who gives herself to the Prophet and whom he wants to take in marriage.88 (O Prophet), this privilege is yours alone to the exclusion of other believers. 89 We know well what restrictions We have imposed upon them as regards their wives and those whom their right hands possess, (and have exempted you from those restrictions) that there may be no constraint upon you. 90 Allah is Most Forgiving, Most Merciful.


Same misogynistic bullshit as the old testament.

LordIsaac:
No man has authority to join any two people together. Find a wife, and by the laws of the land, marry. Period.

.O found what you said sensible

benosky:
I will go for number 7.
A rib is not too much of sacrifice.
I will just get me some ak47 in case the serpent decide to come with another apple.

lol, how do you know it ws an apple?

PianoWizard:
Christ took the penalty of the law upon himself. So we actually paid the price of the law but we paid the price of the law in Christ.

Frankly, these two sentences are meaningless gibberish.

Proudgorgeousga:


Qur'an

(33:50) O Prophet, We have made lawful for you your wives whose bridal dues you have paid, 87 and the slave-girls you possess from among the prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and maternal aunts who have migrated with you, and a believing woman who gives herself to the Prophet and whom he wants to take in marriage.88 (O Prophet), this privilege is yours alone to the exclusion of other believers. 89 We know well what restrictions We have imposed upon them as regards their wives and those whom their right hands possess, (and have exempted you from those restrictions) that there may be no constraint upon you. 90 Allah is Most Forgiving, Most Merciful.


Same misogynistic bullshit as the old testament.

First where is the 87,88,89 etc in your quotation coming from?

now to the points: This particular verse is for a specific individual(the prophet) even though there is a similar provision for Muslims to marry such people. Even at that, there is wisdom behind it. If you call someone a prisoner of war (POW)and then you're been encouraged to married her, will the marriage not change her status form POW to that of a wife? This is specifically to aid integration of different communities.

Remember that when Qur'an talk about married it refers only to those that meets the criteria set by Islam and the Qur'an. this include but not limited to
1. seeking the consent of the lady to be married (no forced marriage) applicable to all
2. seeking the consent of the parent or guardian of the lady( not applicable for POW)
3. paying a dowry applicable to all
among others.
4. presence of witness no secret marriage in Islam.

Yunus2012:


First where is the 87,88,89 etc in your quotation coming from?

now to the points: This particular verse is for a specific individual(the prophet) even though there is a similar provision for Muslims to marry such people. Even at that, there is wisdom behind it. If you call someone a prisoner of war (POW)and then you're been encouraged to married her, will the marriage not change her status form POW to that of a wife? This is specifically to aid integration of different communities.

Remember that when Qur'an talk about married it refers only to those that meets the criteria set by Islam and the Qur'an. this include but not limited to
1. seeking the consent of the lady to be married (no forced marriage) applicable to all
2. seeking the consent of the parent or guardian of the lady( not applicable for POW)
3. paying a dowry applicable to all
among others.
4. presence of witness no secret marriage in Islam.

well same as the above bible verses it was for specific people at a specific time.

the bible also encourage marriage to war prisoners which is forced marriage

by the way is it not the same Islam where a woman cannot divorce her husband but the husband can easily divorce her by proclaiming I divorce you thrice.

where women have their choices limited to Muslim men and not the other way round.

where you can't divorce your husband if don't want to share a husband with another woman.

like I said earlier it is same ol misogyny.

Zodiac61:

Frankly, these two sentences are meaningless gibberish.

How won't they be gibberish when you lack understanding.

Proudgorgeousga:


well same as the above bible verses it was for specific people at a specific time.

the bible also encourage marriage to war prisoners which is forced marriage

by the way is it not the same Islam where a woman cannot divorce her husband but the husband can easily divorce her by proclaiming I divorce you thrice.

where women have their choices limited to Muslim men and not the other way round.

where you can't divorce your husband if don't want to share a husband with another woman.

like I said earlier it is same ol misogyny.

That of Islam is VERY different in that Islam has a well documented marriage process , which is the same for both free women and POW's. The Bible might truly call for their marriage, but how is it to be done to ensure that the status of women concerned are changed for the better? only Islam provided this.

You can not saying someone giving her consent to her marriage is forced. like I said earlier any marriage without the consent of the lady is Null and void. It is a figment of your imagination to say that Muslim women can not divorce their husbands. even today go to the various sharia courts and see women seeking divorce without the permission of anybody.

Yunus2012:


That of Islam is VERY different in that Islam has a well documented marriage process , which is the same for both free women and POW's. The Bible might truly call for their marriage, but how is it to be done to ensure that the status of women concerned are changed for the better? only Islam provided this.

You can not saying someone giving her consent to her marriage is forced. like I said earlier any marriage without the consent of the lady is Null and void. It is a figment of your imagination to say that Muslim women can not divorce their husbands. even today go to the various sharia courts and see women seeking divorce without the permission of anybody.

erm can a Muslim woman divorce her husband because he wants another wife?
or do they have to accept polygamy.
don't lie you forget there is Islam for Muslim section on nairaland and I read you guys arguments and double standards.
Can a Muslim woman marry a non Muslim is the marriage valid?
You defended marriage to prisoner of war in the quranic verse I quoted earlier hence the forced marriage comments. how can a prisoner give consent. How will some one you murdered her people be happy to marry you?

nawtibownie:
Had a good laugh reading through this. I look forward to reading 15 ways to choose a husband, according to the Bible.