Proudgorgeousga:


That's you own personal interpretation of no other gods. that part was talking about worshipping other gods/idols in addition to Yahweh. it has nothing to do with tithing.

johnydon22:


It is not about falling for this, that particular post affirms the argument i raise: Does the law apply or not?

If the Law does then all of them holds[which ever type they may be, all can be summarised as the law]

if the law has been done away with then they all must have been done away with, thats the point.

Goshen raised an argument different from yours, he nullified the totality of the old testament law, so this is not a trap for you but another example of Christian doctrinal and theological contradiction

Wilgrea7:
during my days as a liberal .. i went with the saying that the law was fulfilled in a new testament law

Matthew 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 22:38 This is the first and great commandment. 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

but then.. Christians will still want to run to the old testament to support things like tithes and first fruits.. its like trying to eat your cake and have it.. the law was for the jews.. if someone accepts part of the old testament law... he/she should accept all.. and i mean ALL

johnydon22:

P
Now here is someone who gets the point

rhektor:


Did Jesus condemn Tithing? No, in the first place tithing was not part of the 10 commandments it predates the 10 commandments. If it should be done away with then Jesus would have condemn it.

rhektor:



Christ is himself the fulfillment of the law. Either the law hold or not is not your headache

rhektor:


Did Jesus condemn Tithing? No, in the first place tithing was not part of the 10 commandments it predates the 10 commandments. If it should be done away with then Jesus would have condemn it.

Proudgorgeousga:


it's not a prerequisite for salvation. therefore not compulsory.

and Abraham did not give his income he gave spoils of war.

rhektor:


Madam be sure next time before writing anything here, the other time you accused Christian of cherrypiking now you are choosy in this comment so who is cherrypiking? Anyway let me tell you that Christianity is not just about salvation as one off thing there are other things that follow it up. Where will the work of faith be? If being saved is it. You claim Abraham did not give Tithe of his income but spoil of war really? So the spoil of war is outcome right? I'm really sorry for you. Because you just exposed your ignorance

rhektor:


Tithes is not just an old testament thing, if it were to be done away with Jesus himself would have condemn it, but he did not. Read Mathew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
What does this imply?

Wilgrea7:


the verse i quoted did not say “on these two do the old testament law and prophets hang" ... it said “on these two do all the laws and prophet hang".. the new testament is pro-jesus era.. old testament is pre-jesus .. the jews follow the old testament.. even during the time of Christ.. their scripture was the old testament.. so its not a matter of whether its in the old or new testament.. Jesus showed a good example.. did he pay tithe? if you choose to follow the law.. follow it to the last

rhektor:


Your comment has not addressed anything maybe you should explain yourself because I'm lost

ichuka:

Longtime bro
Cheers

Proudgorgeousga:


remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy.

how do you keep it holy?

rhektor:


Madam be sure next time before writing anything here, the other time you accused Christian of cherrypiking now you are choosy in this comment so who is cherrypiking? Anyway let me tell you that Christianity is not just about salvation as one off thing there are other things that follow it up. Where will the work of faith be? If being saved is it. You claim Abraham did not give Tithe of his income but spoil of war really? So the spoil of war is outcome right? I'm really sorry for you. Because you just exposed your ignorance

Proudgorgeousga:
cc. an2elect the only true Christian on nairaland your attention is needed.

An2elect2:
This is funny?
This is a theist-theist topic not water and oil mixing. So bye!

GoodMuyis:


Sabbath Days is an Holydays or Holidays

But Do you think its a sin if go to Bank just to ATM money for you on Sabbath day?

An2elect2:
You are the ignorant one here. Christians are not under the law and therefore are not required to tithe but give as the Spirit leads their hearts. This has been the status quo from the beginning of Christianity which kick started after Christ's death. The onus lies on you pro-tithers to prove otherwise and not bark at everyone that disagrees with you

rhektor:



To give as the spirit lead? So Jesus was wrong to permit tithing right? Keep it up

Goshen360:


How you doing my brother? Sure everything okay. I'm fine and being here just reading most times behind the scene.

Do know many of our Christian brothers and sisters have invested so much into lies and traditions of men by or through their church leaders to the point when truth (of the new covenant ) hit hem they become uncomfortable because they don't like to be wrong.

ichuka:

My bro,it's a very unfortunate thing.
Most of them believe there pastors more than Gods Word.
Good to hear you are fine.

An2elect2:
You can do better right?
Just be honest and look at the bible independent of your interpretation, you will see a lot of sense in it. Why? because i don't believe you find the bible sensible enough if its still subject to your interpretation.

I assume this is where according to you Jesus granted permission to tithe? Matthew 23:23 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and
Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a
tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cumin.
But you have neglected the more
important matters of the law--justice,
mercy and faithfulness. You should have
practiced the latter, without neglecting the
former Notice: This tenth-of proceeds was a lawful thing and not even among the weightier ones. But it was a lawful requirement.

So they had to tithe and keep the law because Jesus was not crucified yet hence the law was still around. In Colossians 2:14 Christ had taken the requirements of the law away, nailing it to his cross.

Believe me the Word of God does not need our feelings or opinions or sentiments. It is sufficient enough and capable to interpret itself.

rhektor:


He was still alive when he made this statement
Mathew 5:33-37
33 “Again you have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not swear falsely, but shall perform to the Lord what you have sworn.’ 34 But I say to you, Do not take an oath at all, either by heaven, for it is the throne of God, 35 or by the earth, for it is his footstool, or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. 36 And do not take an oath by your head, for you cannot make one hair white or black. 37 Let what you say be simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything more than this comes from evil.

So we should continue to swear now because everything has been nailed to the cross right?

Stop confusing yourself please

An2elect2:
You are wilfully being cunning like every other nominal Christian here. Why? because if you were honest you would clarify my post and not further twist the argument.

For eg. If I assert that something is so and I support it with the scriptures. I don't expect you to jump to another scripture that seems to disagree with me but to first and importantly explain that those scriptures are not saying what I'm saying. There you have it! Isn't that the way I replied you? You said Jesus permitted tithing for Christians and I quoted the only passage that seems to suggest that and first clarified that it wasn't saying what you are reading into it before anything else.

If you can't prove Christians are still to tithe or under the law like someone who respects God then I'm done discussing.

johnydon22:


I am more concerned with everyone coming to a reasonable conclusion, are we to do away with the old testament or not, why do we still need to quote them in defence on our stance of moral issues. If they are no longer valid then they become less an argument, if they are still valid then why are we not keeping all.

hopefulLandlord:
why are our holy spirit filled Christians avoiding this thread?

perhaps they're finding it hard making up their mind?

blueAgent:



The law is still 100% valid christains are decieved by Satan to believe it is not valid.


www.nairaland.com/3615455/does-new-covenant-abolish-ten/10

blueAgent:



If i were you i will be busy trying to prove Evolillusion and BigBangs as facts rather than spend your time fighting christainity.
You have lots of Homework and you have not yet started.

blueAgent:



The law is still 100% valid christains are decieved by Satan to believe it is not valid.


www.nairaland.com/3615455/does-new-covenant-abolish-ten/10