Recently a friend and I were discussing about the first beings Adam and Eve... And we got to that part where Eve did the forbidden and I couldn't help but wonder... Was it that God wanted to test them... It doesn't look like that to me, given the severity of the consequence of their actions to Gods project. More so at the point the serpent was deceiving Eve, was THE ALL KNOWING not aware of the great misery about to happen to his project..... Why was he late to the event.. I hope someone could shed some light on my ignorance or lack of depth. Thanks

Do U want the Islamic or Christianity view?

[quote author=iamgenius post=60270689]Do U want the Islamic or Christianity view?[/quote

Christian bro... Am not playing games with y'all...

[quote author=MrIncredible152 post=60270797][/quote] I'm serious too, if you keep reading the christian view ur brain will always surpass the wisdom(if any at all) behind it.

iamgenius:
I'm serious too, if you keep reading the christian view ur brain will always surpass the wisdom(if any at all) behind it.

Please can you share your view

MrIncredible152:


Please can you share your view

Islamic, do you agree?

iamgenius:
Islamic, do you agree?

I can't help myself and no knowledge is wasted... Hit me then

MrIncredible152:


I can't help myself and no knowledge is wasted... Hit me then

Ok, lets get started. I will be quoting from Chapter 2 (Surah Al-Baqorah)of the Holy Quran.

VERSE 30: "And (remember) when your Lord said to the angels: "Verily, I am going to place (mankind) generations after generations on earth." They said: "Will You place therein those who will make mischief therein and shed blood, - while we glorify You with praises and thanks (Exalted be You above all that they associate with You as partners) and sanctify You." He (Allah) said: "I know that which you do not know."
This is before Allah(God) created mankind, and note the word He said He said He WANT TO PLACE US(all mankind) ON THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH. And the angels brought their suggestion that these people will only cause mischief on the surface of the earth, and Allah(God) replied them that He knows what they do not know (because he created them, and their knowledge is limited)

After God created Prophet Aadam(peace be upon him), now the quest to place him on the surface of the earth now begin.

VERSE 31: "And He(God) taught Adam all the names (of everything) , then He showed them to the angels and said, "Tell Me the names of these if you are truthful."
Then God taught Aadam (peace be upon him) the names of everything. And God challenged the angels to name the things. The angels then reply below

VERSE 32: "They (angels) said: "Glory be to You, we have no knowledge except what you have taught us. Verily, it is You, the All-Knower, the All-Wise."
This shows the submissiin if the angels to their Creator that they knew nothing except what Allah(God) wants them to know. Then...

VERSE 33: "He(God) said: "O Adam! Inform them of their names," and when he had informed them of their names, He said: "Did I not tell you that I know the Ghaib (unseen) in the heavens and the earth, and I know what you reveal and what you have been concealing?"

VERSE 34: "And (remember) when We said to the angels: "Prostrate yourselves before Adam.". And they prostrated except Iblis (Satan), he refused and was proud and was one of the disbelievers (disobedient to Allah)."
God want the angels and Satan to know how respectable the first man He created with His Own Hand is, that is why He commanded them to prostrate(in respect, not by means of worship) to Aadam.

I hope you remember the first verse I quoted that Mankind are meant to come to this earth, not to dwell in paradise. Although Gid created the first man not on the earth but in the heaven(paradise).

VERSE 35: "And We said: "O Adam! Dwell you and your wife in the Paradise and eat both of you freely with pleasure and delight of things therein as wherever you will, but come not near this tree or you both will be of the Zalimun (wrong-doers)."
A warning by their Creator.
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VERSE 36: "Then the Shaitan (Satan) made them slip therefrom (the Paradise), and got them out from that in which they were. We said: "Get you down, all, with enmity between yourselves. On earth will be a dwelling place for you and an enjoyment for a time."
Satan whispers into their ears to eat the forbidden fruit, why did he do that? Because he was arrogant and too proud, notice that he was the only one that didn't not bow in respect to Adam because of his arrogance and that's why he(Satan) become the cursed one till the day of judgement.

VERSE 37: "Then Adam received from his Lord Words . And his Lord pardoned him (accepted his repentance). Verily, He is the One Who forgives (accepts repentance), the Most Merciful."

VERSE 38: "We said: "Get down all of you from this place (the Paradise), then whenever there comes to you Guidance from Me, and whoever follows My Guidance, there shall be no fear on them, nor shall they grieve."

That is how Commanded the both to come down to the surface of the earth. So the believe that some people had that it was the fault of Adam and Eve that we their children suffering on this earth, that if not for their disobedience we the children will rather be in Paradise is not true at all at all. Since God want to place us on the earth from the beginning and there will be a cause for that, and it is their disobedient to what God haf already willed to happen
That is little explanation I can do for now.

Thanks for your view.