riversman:

i dont care wat u say, Middle Belt my backside, they are all tryna cut themselves off now, before they were all clingin to the North,


HAUSA PEOPLE ARE the downfall of NAIJA,

ishmael:

Guy, you are correct. They are just trying to cut themselves off now because the core hausas have turned against them too. Danjuma was among those who killed Aguiyi Ironsi; Danjuma was among those who killed so many igbo officers during the 1966 counter coup and mutiny; and somebody is trying to call another person a slowpoke for referring to TY Danjuma as a northerner or hausa man. Danjuma was among those that spearheaded the civil war where millions of igbos were killed. Gowon, Danjuma, Damkat Bali, Joe Garba, Buhari, IBB, Abdulsalam, Shagaya, Victor Malu, David Mark, etc are the same people, AREWA.

He did all he could legally and otherwise to stop Goodluck from becoming acting president. When he failed he left the country because he probably couldn’t stand working under Goodluck. Guess who it was? A northerner? NO! [size=14pt]It was Aaondoaka. A man that was not only southern, but was as southern as any southerner can be. [/size] SO HOW DARE THEY CALL IT A NORTHERN CONSPIRACY?

Jarus:

IBB - Gwari
Abacha - Kanuri
Danjuma - From Plateau state, not sure of his tribe, but not Hausa
Atiku - Fulani
Turai - Fulani

So who's the Hausa you're blaming for your woes?

The earlier people know the difference between Hausa and northerners, the better.

This war raging in Nigeria is not about north and south, it is not about Moslems or Christians and it is also not about Jonathan- the Baba Suwe looking Ijaw man.
This Abuja power game is just all about hunger for power- the power to control the purse of the crude oil of the Old East/Midwest. It is a fight between the old Kaduna mafia vs t he new wannabe mafias represented by Jonathan. In the past, those wannabes are quite happy to take whatever they are given, but they seems to have grown their own wings and want to fly like the old masters themselves. But once push comes to shove, they always has a way of settling it among themselves through sharing all that is around the purse and they will shout that peace is here at last and the rest of Nigeria idiots will jump and punch the air in euphoria as the selected rogues laugh behind their backs.
In the old days, by now marshal music must have been singing on FRCN and other radio stations and with a half baked educated northerner in a khaki yapping on as to how he loved Nigeria, and he can’t continue to watch as thing comatose, while what he actually meant was,, it better when there is few of us around the purse with the gun and then calls the shots. And then the so called elected/unelected democrats will immediately be falling on top of each other as they fight for positions around the oil purse. And one of the numerous lawyers with SAN attached to his name will forget the constitution and law, to become attorney general, ever happy to write, defend and interpret the junta’s new decrees. The chief judges will look the other way round and swears in unelected men with guns and tanks.
But things have really changed. Their inability to suppress the oil bunkerers called the militant has educated them that any more marshal music will not be welcome again and even the militant will fight them. So let those that think that everyone is now so committed to democracy to think again, because, last Wednesday episode at the Abuja airport in the dead of the night as they smuggle in Mr Yar Adua is sample of the bottled intent.
Again, I feel sorry for the ever deluding patriotic Nigerians- unfortunately, this raging fight is not about you or your welfare and soon enough a big distraction as always used by these selected few is just around the corner- THE FOOTBALL WORLD CUP. Who cares about Yar Adua when their is a Messi and Ronaldos of this world on telly. Yar Adua might even get up and watch, like he watched the African cup of nations recently with tubes all over his body.

Jarus:

IBB - Gwari
Abacha - Kanuri
Danjuma - From Plateau state, not sure of his tribe, but not Hausa
Atiku - Fulani
Turai - Fulani

So who's the Hausa you're blaming for your woes?

The earlier people know the difference between Hausa and northerners, the better.
IBB-NUPE: DANJUMA-BIROM: ATIKU-HAUSA/FULANI: TURAI-HAUSA/FULANI:ABAHA:originally Kanuri but presented himself more Hausa than Kanuri, he even favoured Emir of Kano than Shehu of Borno during his life time. He saw himself as purely from Kano.

Iranoladun:

I'm actually disappointed that the poster is not Becomerich!

A tribal thread with the usual 'blame culture' rather than accepting responsibility collectively for our woes!

The people get the kind of leader they deserve QED!

udojoe:

The tribal extraction these persons are from notwithstanding, the are all from the north. I am not championing division but the truth must be told at times.

Jarus:

Much as I hate to engage in arguments that border on 'this or that ethnic group/region is the problem of Nigeria', I think the poster can be educated.

Okay now, let's assume that by Hausa, you mean north in general. I personally don't think the north is the problem of Nigeria. The South is as guilty as the north.

Now, let's dwell on teh common arguments usually used against teh north.
It's oversimplification to say because they have ruled Nigeria more, then they are the cause of all our problems. We did not fare better under Obasanjo.

We easily tag the northerners lazy, corrupt, quota-system dependent etc, as if the southerners are saints. The South has been known to produce as many thieves as the North. For every Saminu Turaki, there is an Ibori; for every IBB, there is an Obj. Similarly, we have had strong anti-corruption voices from the north. For every Gani, there is a Balarabe Musa, for every Femi Falana, there is a Umar Dangiwa.

Another problem with many southerners is that a genuine national struggle is hijacked and regionalized, and that is why they usually lose. MKO Abiola won all through Nigeria, north, South, East, West in 1993, but when the struggle to get him his IBB-denied mandate began, the West think, Abiola being their own, they can win teh struggle alone. And they lost. The same thing is happening in teh current Yar'adua crisis. People easily forget that northern leaders and activists like Shagari, Buhari, Najaatu Mohammed, Balarabe Musa, Abubakar Umar etc are all leading voices against Yar'adua's despoil of constitution. Yet, those of us down south here easily say the north is to blame for the current problem., for no other reason than YRD is a northerner. In fact, we even forget that the man that foisted YRD on us is a Southerner.

I don't subscribe to the argument that the north, Hausa/Fulani or whatever name we call them are the problem of Nigeria.

PS: When one northerner tried to shift the blame to the south too, through one article titled "Southerners are Politically Naive and Myopic. . .", I gave it hot to him too.

tunnytox:

Thank you jarus for educating this poster, we keep saying that the north is Nigeria's problem but can the north achieve anything without the collaborations of greedy southern politicians?

Fhemmmy:

How do u explain when the leader is chosen and was not elected?

IBB-NUPE: DANJUMA-BIROM: ATIKU-HAUSA/FULANI: TURAI-HAUSA/FULANI:ABAHA:originally Kanuri but presented himself more Hausa than Kanuri, he even favoured Emir of Kano than Shehu of Borno during his life time. He saw himself as purely from Kano.

riversman:

****Moderators plizz back off, am only asking a question****


I am kinda concerned as the Nigerian Military bases and college are based in the north for the most part and if there is some form of unrest in Nigeria, the north basically has us on lockdown.

ALl of the military bases in the south are not self sufficient, all rely on fire power/ resources from Kaduna/Kano

Most of the ex-military leaders are all trying to stick thier smelly asses back into naija poltics, where is the conscience of these politicians?? When IBB and ATIKU have a bright political future in 2011, wat does that tell our jobless and educated youth, that they also have a shot with scraping all the icing on the national cake?

Jarus:

Don't you think that the choosing is made possible by the conduct of the people too. Or why are leaders not 'chosen' in US?IBB as Nupe? Are you sure?

Jarus:

Much as I hate to engage in arguments that border on 'this or that ethnic group/region is the problem of Nigeria', I think the poster can be educated.

Okay now, let's assume that by Hausa, you mean north in general. I personally don't think the north is the problem of Nigeria. The South is as guilty as the north.

Now, let's dwell on teh common arguments usually used against teh north.
It's oversimplification to say because they have ruled Nigeria more, then they are the cause of all our problems. We did not fare better under Obasanjo.

We easily tag the northerners lazy, corrupt, quota-system dependent etc, as if the southerners are saints. The South has been known to produce as many thieves as the North. For every Saminu Turaki, there is an Ibori; for every IBB, there is an Obj. Similarly, we have had strong anti-corruption voices from the north. For every Gani, there is a Balarabe Musa, for every Femi Falana, there is a Umar Dangiwa.

Another problem with many southerners is that a genuine national struggle is hijacked and regionalized, and that is why they usually lose. MKO Abiola won all through Nigeria, north, South, East, West in 1993, but when the struggle to get him his IBB-denied mandate began, the West think, Abiola being their own, they can win teh struggle alone. And they lost. The same thing is happening in teh current Yar'adua crisis. People easily forget that northern leaders and activists like Shagari, Buhari, Najaatu Mohammed, Balarabe Musa, Abubakar Umar etc are all leading voices against Yar'adua's despoil of constitution. Yet, those of us down south here easily say the north is to blame for the current problem., for no other reason than YRD is a northerner. In fact, we even forget that the man that foisted YRD on us is a Southerner.

I don't subscribe to the argument that the north, Hausa/Fulani or whatever name we call them are the problem of Nigeria.

PS: When one northerner tried to shift the blame to the south too, through one article titled "Southerners are Politically Naive and Myopic. . .", I gave it hot to him too.

Katsumoto:

I get the point that you are trying to make but please, do not compare Balarabe Musa to Gani. How many Northern progressives were jailed and hunted by IBB and Abacha like Gani, Beko, Falana, Soyinka, Agbakoba were? To my knowledge, Balarabe Musa and Col Umar were never jailed incessantly. It is easy to criticise your brother (IBB & Abacha) when you know that he would just ignore you. I applaud Musa and Umar for their progressiveness but they did not experience the same treatment as their southern colleagues.