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Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by ziga: 3:51pm On Mar 06, 2010
idifu:

even the so called tuface and Dbanj are nothing but hype, they aren't talented to me, i dont care if folks are gonna love to hear dis truth or not, Tuface and Dbanj would neva shine if it were in d dayz of the old when we had professionals running the music industry in Nigeria and not all of these ignorant modafuckas who don't know what music is about, Fela is music,Sunny ade,Ebenezer obey,christy essien igbokwe,orlando owoh,orlando julius,felix liberty, chris okotie,dizzy k falola,alex zitto, majek fashek,ras kimono,mandators, orits wiliki,shina peters e.t.c these guys were music and not the crap we hear on radio these days, they all lack originality.


I guess the rest of the people listening to "the so called tuface and dbanj" don't know what they are doing.

Wake up bro and leave the past in the past. Time has changed, governments have changed, weather has changed, and also music has changed. You don't have to like it but you have to accept it.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by cap28: 4:08pm On Mar 06, 2010
~Sauron~:

This post is contradictory. . . . . .
Fela displayed more scantily-clad women than the artistes of this generation and Fela's profanities were second to none.
The artistes are only giving back what the consumers require. U cannot blame Wande Coal for that. Blame the rot in our society.

thats not true, these women were not being expoited in the cheap and degrading way that these so called "video vixens" are.  i must admit that the women in the nigerian videos are yet to be degraded in the ways that the african american women are but we're getting there.

Fela portrayed these women as queens, their costumes were not sexually provocative and they were not put on show as cheap sexual gimmicks, they played their own part as back up singers and dancers without bringing in a cheap pornographic element.

Yes,  Fela used profanity but this did not detract from his main message which was to challenge and root out social injustice.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by shotuns: 5:06pm On Mar 06, 2010
May be they lost their thinking cap, when the head is sick , the body is functionless,
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by OBLONG(m): 5:26pm On Mar 06, 2010
I agree with the poster---- most Nigerian artists don't have talent these days.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by eldee(m): 5:34pm On Mar 06, 2010
cap28:

Fela portrayed these women as queens, their costumes were not sexually provocative and they were not put on show as cheap sexual gimmicks, they played their own part as back up singers and dancers without bringing in a cheap pornographic element.
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Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Nobody: 5:49pm On Mar 06, 2010
This is my #1 reason for not listening to Nigerian artist.

Mehn, be creative. I'm tired of seeing look alike Jamaicans on a Nigerian music video.

Hate seeing that Jamaican influence, gawwwd.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by chic2pimp(m): 5:55pm On Mar 06, 2010
cap28:


Fela portrayed these women as queens, their costumes were not sexually provocative and they were not put on show as cheap sexual gimmicks, they played their own part as back up singers and dancers without bringing in a cheap pornographic element.

Buhahahahahahahaha grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

FL Gators:

This is my #1 reason for not listening to Nigerian artist.

Mehn, be creative. I'm tired of seeing look alike Jamaicans on a Nigerian music video.

Hate seeing that Jamaican influence, gawwwd.
Hehe grin grin grin

Gimme Lagbaja over any of those wastemen anyday.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by eldee(m): 6:39pm On Mar 06, 2010
FL Gators:

This is my #1 reason for not listening to Nigerian artist.

Mehn, be creative. I'm tired of seeing look alike Jamaicans on a Nigerian music video.

Hate seeing that Jamaican influence, gawwwd.


Hehehe . . . Majek Fashek looks more Jamaican than Bob Marley himself grin grin grin
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Nobody: 6:45pm On Mar 06, 2010
Dude is not Nigerian, I'm sure of it.

Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by eldee(m): 6:51pm On Mar 06, 2010
FL Gators:

Dude is not Nigerian, I'm sure of it.

Maynne . . . that guy's from Ogun State.
His real name of Fashola Majekodunmi or sumn . . grin grin grin

Check out the Jamaican colours on his album sef grin
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by texazzpete(m): 6:51pm On Mar 06, 2010
cap28:


thanx but no thanx - my brain is switched on which is more than i can say for yours, i dont need to plug myself into mindless trash in order to escape the reality of whats going on around me.


Is that really why you listen to music? Weird.
cap28:

thats not true, these women were not being expoited in the cheap and degrading way that these so called "video vixens" are.  i must admit that the women in the nigerian videos are yet to be degraded in the ways that the african american women are but we're getting there.

Fela portrayed these women as queens, their costumes were not sexually provocative and they were not put on show as cheap sexual gimmicks, they played their own part as back up singers and dancers without bringing in a cheap pornographic element.


BWAHAHAHAHA!
Yeah, i remember those women shaking their ample backsides in a 'queenly' manner cheesy
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Nobody: 6:56pm On Mar 06, 2010
eldee:

Maynne . . . that guy's from Ogun State.
His real name of Fashola Majekodunmi or sumn . . grin grin grin

Check out the Jamaican colours on his album sef grin
Thatz actually an African color, red, green and yellow. Jamaican is green yellow and black.
He's trying to make himself as Jamaican as possible, very sad.

texazzpete:

Is that really why you listen to music? Weird.
BWAHAHAHAHA!
Yeah, i remember those women shaking their ample backsides in a 'queenly' manner cheesy

grin grin grin grin grin grin grin Which one is queenly manner again? grin
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by chic2pimp(m): 7:00pm On Mar 06, 2010
texazzpete:


Yeah, i remember those women shaking their ample backsides in a 'queenly' manner cheesy

No mind am jare grin.
Check out  the song 'Wonder Wonder' or 'Water No Get Enemy' and see the amount of times those women shook their backside.
If My memory serves me right, it was after every beat undecided grin
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by mamagee3(f): 7:30pm On Mar 06, 2010
It's called Unoriginality, they don't want to be themselves. . .
They have this belief that Foreign talents are better and can't be compared to the ones in their own country
So, they try as hard as possible to be like the foreign ones. . .
Demarcating themselves from their real talents and gift that was given to them by God. . .
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by OBLONG(m): 8:29pm On Mar 06, 2010
mama-gee:

It's called Unoriginality, they don't want to be themselves. . .
They have this belief that Foreign talents are better and can't be compared to the ones in their own country
So, they try as hard as possible to be like the foreign ones. . .
Demarcating themselves from their real talents and gift that was given to them by God. . .


Mama gee is at it again---- very brainless kiss kiss kiss kiss
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by shotster50(m): 12:56am On Mar 07, 2010
This issue of imitating the west is not limited to Nigeria. Everybody has a bit of an American influence one way or the other. After a whole lifetime of being exposed to that culture, do you not think then that it would only be natural if you show it in some way or form. You think Nigerian musicians are copying their American counterparts First of all the music itself (Rap / Hip Hop / R n B) is American, so going by that logic, they shouldnt even be doing that. They should all wear Ankaras and Laces, singing and dancing by some Flower gardens , maybe that would be African enough.

My point is, we should be grateful we have people resourceful enough to grind like they do in the kind of environment we have in Nigeria. Not a lot of African countries have what we have at the moment, yet we still complain.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by A40(m): 2:41am On Mar 07, 2010
We are not in the Golden Era anymore mehn and this is the pattern everywhere. There is a recession going down and these artistes are trying to survive to be honest sha a lot of em are in it for the wrong reasons so expecting them to drop some thought-provoking ish is expecting too much. There is just so much ish that has changed that expecting things to go back to their previous status quo is a pipedream. The average artiste now cannot even beat a drum and who needs that when we have machines

One more thing though are these so-called African American's or Jamaican's Africans as well?? Peter Tosh tells me that no matter where you come from as long as you are a black man you are an African so can we logically say these guys are copying??
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Nobody: 3:38am On Mar 07, 2010
eldee:

Jay Sean?? Isn't he like Indian or sumn?? Sean Paul?? B[i]i[/i]tch please that nigga is as American as the word goes.
I rest my case . . . The best selling Jamaican albums were composed in the 1980s.
When I said Jamaican music had lost relevance you said I was lying . . . now you post proof for my post.

Right now it's all about the US, Europe and Latin America . . . Caribbean music is as irrelevant as African music is to the Western world.


Eldee bumbohole, let me make myself CLEAR to you BEFORE I even bother to entertain your sorry and pathetic existence with my attention. Don't you EVER. EVER, EVER EVER, in your life call me out of my name. NEVER EVER do that, I'm not a b.tch, I am Jamaican woman who referred to you with the upmost respect and I'd be[b] D.AMNED[/b] if I will take disrespect from ANYONE. So understand yourself and come at me CORRECT. Second when in the f.cuk did I say that Jay Sean was Jamaican? See it's dunce ones like you who in effort of putting down others and convincing yourselves to be correct that you embarrass yourselves in the process.

Did I NOT capitalize ALL of the letters in Sean Paul's name to emphasize his being on the top 100? Ok. You are so pathetic you actually want to believe Jamaican music is irrelevant because of your own sad and childish envy of my people's recognition and respect. Jamaican music has been relevant to the blasted world since the 1960's during and after the Ska and Mento years. Jamaican music is amongst the most respected music genres in the world neither you or anyone else with blind hatred and envy can take that from us. We are on the billboard charts and always have been. My point is proven will always be, the issue is why isnt YOUR country on the map.

My culture isn't the one being questioned. Know yourself. Europe, America and Latin American music. . . HA! Caribbean people big up yourself no matter which island you come from. We are hated on constantly; let's keep giving 'em reasons! Eldee keep playing yourself. Africans, Latinos and Americans CROWD Jamaican clubs and get togethers in the US and even lie claiming to be from JA or having relatives from my island lol. You can hate till you pass out with your silly a.s.s. You are so pro Naija but you use the word "n.gga" like nothing. I dont want to hear/ read anything else you have to say. Fly hard and die hard for all I care.

As for you FLGators I thought you'd have an ounce of sense but sadly I am mistaken. You say you "hate the Jamaican influence" keep being a hater. We love it. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with being Jamaican or wanting to associate with Jamaican people. No ethnicity/ nation is without flaws or stereotypes and whats so d.amn sad is we are African to you Africans when it is convenient, Usain Bolt wins gold medals all of a sudden he's "Igbo" lol, Jamaican ppl get respect for our dances and reggae only to hear the tired lecture:"Remember you all got it from Africa!" PLEASE! When we get compliments, big ups, or respect on an international scale that you can't claim "Jamos are not worthy; Jamos are ghetto". Well let me explain to you as I did the mongrel Eldee, you see if you hate, dislike, or are down right disgusted by Jamaicans, don't refer to us, don't listen to our music and make like we dont exist. Keep your life Naija-oriented. Keep up the same superiority mentality that is riding your country of recognition and respect.

God has blessed my island and ALL Black ppl of the diaspora for surviving one of humanity's biggest crimes: Slavery not to mention lynching, attempted genocide and segregation. Now that we are gaining respect and momentum our own socalled brothers are trying to put us down and wonder why we at times try to disassociate ourselves lipsrsealed It's our will power, resilience and soul that has allowed us to stay firm and express ourselves in the process ppl gravitate towards us during our healing process as you two demonstrated we are still healing from MENTAL SLAVERY and jealousy.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Nobody: 4:03am On Mar 07, 2010
MzDarkSkin:

As for you FLGators I thought you'd have an ounce of sense but sadly I am mistaken. You say you "hate the Jamaican influence" keep being a hater. We love it. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with being Jamaican or wanting to associate with Jamaican people. No ethnicity/ nation is without flaws or stereotypes and whats so d.amn sad is we are African to you Africans when it is convenient, Usain Bolt wins gold medals all of a sudden he's "Igbo" lol, Jamaican ppl get respect for our dances and reggae only to hear the tired lecture:"Remember you all got it from Africa!" PLEASE! When we get compliments, big ups, or respect on an international scale that you can't claim "Jamos are not worthy; Jamos are ghetto". Well let me explain to you as I did the mongrel Eldee, you see if you hate, dislike, or are down right disgusted by Jamaicans, don't refer to us, don't listen to our music and make like we dont exist. Keep your life Naija-oriented. Keep up the same superiority mentality that is riding your country of recognition and respect.

God has blessed my island and ALL Black ppl of the diaspora for surviving one of humanity's biggest crimes: Slavery not to mention lynching, attempted genocide and segregation. Now that we are gaining respect and momentum our own socalled brothers are trying to put us down and wonder why we at times try to disassociate ourselves lipsrsealed It's our will power, resilience and soul that has allowed us to stay firm and express ourselves in the process ppl gravitate towards us during our healing process as you two demonstrated we are still healing from MENTAL SLAVERY and jealousy.

When I saw your post to eldee, I was like WTF?

Then you added me, then I was like, you've gotta be outta your damn mind.

What have you said sef? What have I said to generate your essay. Gurl, you betta calm your a$$ down.

I'd like to sit here and clarify my post to you, but I find you calming your a$$ down and reading my post for better understanding to be a better idea.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Nobody: 4:30am On Mar 07, 2010
FLGators said "Thatz actually an African color, red, green and yellow. Jamaican is green yellow and black.
He's trying to make himself as Jamaican as possible, very sad."


now either that is a loose example of sarcasm or a diss. there is no need to question my post to eldee its pretty clear the guy is loco and ignorant.

*a.s.s. officially calmed*
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Nobody: 4:37am On Mar 07, 2010
MzDarkSkin:

FLGators said "Thatz actually an African color, red, green and yellow. Jamaican is green yellow and black.
He's trying to make himself as Jamaican as possible, very sad."


now either that is a loose example of sarcasm or a diss. there is no need to question my post to eldee its pretty clear the guy is loco and ignorant.

*a.s.s. officially calmed*

Will you shut your trap and stop waving the "I stand against every opposition" flag? What is wrong with you, you think everybody is against you and your precious Islands? Keep proving the stereotype you're trying to clear about your people.

Sue me if I want my countrymen to act more Nigerian and retain their culture instead of emulating other nationality [esp Jamaicans] like the likes of K'naan.

Your lack of ability to reason disappoints me, plz get out of my face .
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by eldee(m): 5:45am On Mar 07, 2010
@MzDarkSkin

What can I say . . . even all your supporters will be ashamed of that last post.
After seeing the clear portrayal of ignorance in that last post, arguing with you will be an insult to my person.
You know what your problem is . . . FL put it clearly . . .'thinking everybody is against your islands'.

The unnecessary antagonistic character towards any perceived threat is a bad stereotype that even Bob Marley will be ashamed of because people like you exist.
You are the typical angry Jamaican woman.

@FL
First thing that came to my mind was . . .'kila gbe, kile ju??' grin grin
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Nobody: 5:52am On Mar 07, 2010
rotfl. maa da lohun jare. Awan igbo mimu were ilu e lo n le.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by NubianQ(f): 2:44pm On Mar 07, 2010
@Poster, I couldn't agee more!!! you re soo right, sometimes when i watch nigerian music videos i get a bit put off, grin

Yes we have talent in that country but i FEEL that they are not taking the right steps to put the talent to good use.

i still havent found the naija music i really like,

Till then, wink
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by riversman: 5:11pm On Mar 07, 2010
@ POSTER - wow!!!!! dats all i can say, cos u are one observant foreigner, if u havent been to naija then i am impressed with your knowledge of NAIJA's shameful music of today, Its the same American Hip Hop copy cat crap, At least americans stay with one genre, rock, rap, soul or watever,

But naija artistes only follow $$$, thier heart is definitely not in it, have u ever seen D'Banj perform LIVE, he is a waste,



NNEKA is the future of naija music, Till date only 3 nigerian acts are considered relevant in the american music industry, NNEKA, KSA and Majek Fashek, You can hate Majek all u want, but he is recognized internationally and he has played bigger stages than any naija artiste out there, he was on David Letterman as welll, I brought up Letterman because one fool said white americans control the music we listen to around the world, If thats true, then till any otha naija act can sum up the CLASS, ORIGINALITY and VOCAL STRENGTH to hit DAVID LETTERMAN or the likes and perform for those WHITE MEN, i consider NNEKA as the best thing out there



WATCH OUT FOR NEXT YR's grammy, NNEKA is on her way




@ELDEEE - must u respond to everything, Geez, at first i thot u were some really respected dude on here, but seems i was wrong, u are nothing but a "keyboard typing" thirsty dude, geez, step away from NL for a day, Muchos Gracias
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Nobody: 5:18pm On Mar 07, 2010
Majek Fashek, Nnkena and KSA?

Who da hell are those? Just heard about Majek Fashek yest.

Recognized where? In your village abi?
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Princek12(m): 5:20pm On Mar 07, 2010
It is well settled that the success of Nigerian artists is attributed to their use of pidgin and African beats in their songs, with the exception of a few Nigerian artists who are  Jamaican and American wannabes. The style of their videos, however, are contemporary and trendy, which, undoubtedly to certain degree, mimics American videos. But that is a worldwide trend which is not limited to Nigerian artists.  

To the poster: so singing in pidgin English and frequently Yoruba (or sometimes Ibo and the like) against a Nigerian beat is not enough to be Nigerian. Do you want the videos to show artists who are wearing dashiki or traditional attire while some fat Iya Apati woman in the village wearing wrapper and placing a bucket of water on her head  shakes her voluptuous yansh to prove to you that they are not copying American or Jamaican artists?
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by riversman: 5:29pm On Mar 07, 2010
U are a BIG FOOL if u just found out about MAJEK FASHEK, i bet D'Banja and MI are the naija music founding fathers to you, hisss


Majek paved the way for those idiots, himself, Ras Kimono, Uncle Charles "charly boy" Oputa, and Dr Alban, they were the ones that began mixing english and indigenous nigerian languages,

If u havent lived in Nigeria before as a Nigerian or never been to nigeria to understand the culture then u are not legally allowed to argue naija music, HISSS!!!!

children of nowadays, sad
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Nobody: 5:48pm On Mar 07, 2010
riversman:

U are a BIG FOOL if u just found out about MAJEK FASHEK, i bet D'Banja and MI are the naija music founding fathers to you, hisss


Majek paved the way for those idiots, himself, Ras Kimono, Uncle Charles "charly boy" Oputa, and Dr Alban, they were the ones that began mixing english and indigenous nigerian languages,

If u havent lived in Nigeria before as a Nigerian or never been to nigeria to understand the culture then u are not legally allowed to argue naija music, HISSS!!!!

children of nowadays, sad
*death*

And you also bet Omotola is my founding mother. Better stop betting before you lose the last shirt on your back.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by riversman: 5:50pm On Mar 07, 2010
FL GAtors - dead at ur foolishness and omode-ish attitude, bish get a LIFE, OmoTola foundin kini, puhlease grin
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Nobody: 5:52pm On Mar 07, 2010
riversman:

FL GAtors - dead at your foolishness and omode-ish attitude, bish get a LIFE, OmoTola foundin kini, puhlease grin
If you're dead why are you still typing?
Or is "Dead" another artist you listen too? Is he also recognized in your village?
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by riversman: 5:55pm On Mar 07, 2010
Dead na ur Papa, i sweat his latest track "Aids Killed me" is a hell banger, ur momsy told me that, grin grin grin

me sef get mouf, OPONU oshi,

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