. . . .many more will have to suffer!

We have said it several times before. This Fashola govt is anti-people and anti-poor. He takes delight in bringing tears to the poor under the guise of building a mega city.

With all the demolitions since 2007, where is the mega city? Lagos is still dirty, crowded and slummy. Fashola has been demolishing markets and giving the land to his cronies to build expensive shops that the poor can't afford

We shall wait for him in2011. We are going to mobilise all the poor people he has displaced since 2007 to vote him out of office. Let's see whether you stupid eliteswho enjoy his stupid and wasteful flowers have the numerical strength to keep him in office

It looks like Fashola is only good at destroying buildings and Constructions in Lagos than building more,lol.

@Gbengaporno

Go get a life dude!

Where were u during Tinubu's tenure, BLOODY HYPOCRITES!

gbengapro:

We have said it several times before. This Fashola govt is anti-people and anti-poor. He takes delight in bringing tears to the poor under the guise of building a mega city.

With all the demolitions since 2007, where is the mega city? Lagos is still dirty, crowded and slummy. Fashola has been demolishing markets and giving the land to his cronies to build expensive shops that the poor can't afford

We shall wait for him in2011. We are going to mobilise all the poor people he has displaced since 2007 to vote him out of office. Let's see whether you silly eliteswho enjoy his silly and wasteful flowers have the numerical strength to keep him in office

gbenga pro - giving lagos back to the area boys

I think most of us will like to know if official demolition information with date and time was passed on to the marketers otherwise, this will be considered as another Fashola’s failure.

@nakedall

these people were told over 20 times in d past and the show owners and tenants were invited to Alausa few days to d exercise, what more do u want Govt to do?

Dr Kitaun:

@nakedall

these people were told over 20 times in d past and the show owners and tenants were invited to Alausa few days to d exercise, what more do u want Govt to do?

how do you have so much information on this? ?i always knew u were a fashola drone. . .i can even bet my hard earned money that you benefited from this evil demolition. . .may God help you people destroying lives over personal gain

this is a nice development

We know its development, but its should be done properly and not facing d people with misfortune.

@ Dr Kitaun,

Was there any compensation or resettlement plan before demolition?

Was the demolished market part of Lagos plan before? the market is not even an official market, the main market is still intact.

@Forpeace

I know so much abt BRF & BAT, also abt Ajelogo/ Akanimodo. I'm a stakeholder in LAGOS Politics so y'all shd keep shut on what u know not!

Dr Kitun and co,

It is a pity you people take any criticism of Governor Fashola personal, you sound as if you have personal interest or relationship  involved.

Although some people might have political motives by criticizing the policies of Fashola, a lot of people do so out of genuine concern and convictions. According to a lot of people Fashola's policies are elitist, anti-people and incoherent.
I had tried so much to explain that the purpose of government is to provide social, physical and  economic security to the greatest number of people - especially the poor masses.

This involves providing social structures like either free or cheap schools - My governor instead of building new schools prefers to demolish sub-standard schools aggravating the already dire illiteracy levels. A social responsible government would assist the sub-standard schools with books, teaching aids or grants. It could even have adopted the Soludo option of consolidating 3 or four sub-standard schools.

A socially responsible government would care about the livelihood of its poor masses and put in place cheap markets and shops before demolishing existing illegal markets and banning street trading. It should even provide micro credit through collaboration with existing banks.  This same government that embark on anti people economic policies would turn around and impose all kinds of taxation and levies on these same people.

A socially responsible government should be building health centres in every local government or is it Local Government development areas to attempt to alleviate our horrible health statistics , instead of building one or two Ultra - modern hospitals that is grossly inadequate to serve the masses.

I laugh when some people say that people who cannot cope with Lagos should relocate to their villages. I do not blame them. that is the typical black mentality - Pull down the ladder you used in climbing up so that no other person can use it to climb. If that was the official policy of governments past, most people saying that would still be in their villages contributing to the illiterate statistics. Over 80% of Lagos population have their roots in other states and came to Lagos to look for greener pastures. Even Fashola is not indigenous to Lagos.

Fashola's Lagos generate more revenue that all other previous governments, he could afford to embark on projects that would be beneficial to everybody including the poor masses, instead of concentrating on projects for the elites like Dr. Kitun.

I do not really blame him, he did not promise Lagosians anything before he was voted in. He did not outline a Health policy, an economic policy, a water policy or any other policy. He was just imposed (just like Yara dua) by Tinubu. He got to power on the strength of opposition to PDP as Lagosians did not want to be captured by PDP.

[b]Dr Kitun and co,

It is a pity you people take any criticism of Governor Fashola personal, you sound as if you have personal interest or relationship involved.

Although some people might have political motives by criticizing the policies of Fashola, a lot of people do so out of genuine concern and convictions. According to a lot of people Fashola's policies are elitist, anti-people and incoherent.
I had tried so much to explain that the purpose of government is to provide social, physical and economic security to the greatest number of people - especially the poor masses.

This involves providing social structures like either free or cheap schools - My governor instead of building new schools prefers to demolish sub-standard schools aggravating the already dire illiteracy levels. A social responsible government would assist the sub-standard schools with books, teaching aids or grants. It could even have adopted the Soludo option of consolidating 3 or four sub-standard schools.

A socially responsible government would care about the livelihood of its poor masses and put in place cheap markets and shops before demolishing existing illegal markets and banning street trading. It should even provide micro credit through collaboration with existing banks. This same government that embark on anti people economic policies would turn around and impose all kinds of taxation and levies on these same people.

A socially responsible government should be building health centres in every local government or is it Local Government development areas to attempt to alleviate our horrible health statistics , instead of building one or two Ultra - modern hospitals that is grossly inadequate to serve the masses.

I laugh when some people say that people who cannot cope with Lagos should relocate to their villages. I do not blame them. that is the typical black mentality - Pull down the ladder you used in climbing up so that no other person can use it to climb. If that was the official policy of governments past, most people saying that would still be in their villages contributing to the illiterate statistics. Over 80% of Lagos population have their roots in other states and came to Lagos to look for greener pastures. Even Fashola is not indigenous to Lagos.

Fashola's Lagos generate more revenue that all other previous governments, he could afford to embark on projects that would be beneficial to everybody including the poor masses, instead of concentrating on projects for the elites like Dr. Kitun.

I do not really blame him, he did not promise Lagosians anything before he was voted in. He did not outline a Health policy, an economic policy, a water policy or any other policy. He was just imposed (just like Yara dua) by Tinubu. He got to power on the strength of opposition to PDP as Lagosians did not want to be captured by PDP. [/b]

@wirinet

This is what i just spoke about, even if u can go and see for yourself what FASHOLA is doing, u can please goggle in the comfort of ur room where u r typing hogwash(no offence pls).

You claim he is doing nothing meaningful for the masses and i wonder the kind of people we av in NIGERIA.

Well sha u r not speaking for the masses.Assignment go to all local Government and ask if he provide all the claims u provide above before i disproove ur claims.

justfash50:


@wirinet

This is what i just spoke about, even if u can go and see for yourself what FASHOLA is doing, u can please goggle in the comfort of your room where u r typing hogwash(no offence pls).

You claim he is doing nothing meaningful for the masses and i wonder the kind of people we av in NIGERIA.

Well sha u r not speaking for the masses.Assignment go to all local Government and ask if he provide all the claims u provide above before i disproove your claims.

You have spoken but you have said nothing. Since you are more adept at google than i am, why don't you do me a favour by posting your google links, so we have have something concrete to discuss.

Also you know that it is not practicable for me to visit all the local Governments in Lagos compile all Fashola's projects, but since i follow the various media, it should be easy to know fashola's projects.

I live in Ikorodu, so i can at least tell you Fashola's impact in Ikorodu. There are no new roads in Ikorodu, in fact no road expansion project had taken place in Ikorodu. Fashola is developing a new housing estate in Igbogbo.

Since you are more knowledgeable than most of us, please give us updated statistics on fashola's projects, especially the ones that benefits the masses.


How many new roads have Fashola built (Please do not give me renovated or expanded rod)

How many new hospitals has Fashola built.

How many new primary and secondary schools; I remember the day i was taking a bus form Marako to Ajah, with lots of secondary school students from Victoria Island Secondary School - built by Jakande. I was Inform that there in no public school in the Ajah- Jakande Axis, and children of poor parents who cannot afford private school, has to attend the VISS opposite mobil head office. Please contradict their claims.

How many new markets has Fashola built.

How many new water schemes has fashola built.

How many new housing estates has fashola built and what is their cost.

When we discuss, lets argue with facts and statistics and not conjectures and assumptions

wirinet:

You have spoken but you have said nothing. Since you are more adept at google than i am, why don't you do me a favour by posting your google links, so we have have something concrete to discuss.

Also you know that it is not practicable for me to visit all the local Governments in Lagos compile all Fashola's projects, but since i follow the various media, it should be easy to know fashola's projects.

I live in Ikorodu, so i can at least tell you Fashola's impact in Ikorodu. There are no new roads in Ikorodu, in fact no road expansion project had taken place in Ikorodu. Fashola is developing a new housing estate in Igbogbo.

Since you are more knowledgeable than most of us, please give us updated statistics on fashola's projects, especially the ones that benefits the masses.


How many new roads have Fashola built (Please do not give me renovated or expanded rod)

How many new hospitals has Fashola built.

How many new primary and secondary schools; I remember the day i was taking a bus form Marako to Ajah, with lots of secondary school students from Victoria Island Secondary School - built by Jakande. I was Inform that there in no public school in the Ajah- Jakande Axis, and children of poor parents who cannot afford private school, has to attend the VISS opposite mobil head office. Please contradict their claims.

How many new markets has Fashola built.

How many new water schemes has fashola built.

How many new housing estates has fashola built and what is their cost.

When we discuss, lets argue with facts and statistics and not conjectures and assumptions

Problem with Naija is not new things, we need to fix and maintain the old things we have.

We need to take care of all the old things we have, hospitals, roads and all.

Before we start to build new things, we need to be able to take care of the old.

@Wirinet

I dont argue with educated illiterates, like justfash50, GOOGLE is more than enuff to answer u, I CAN ONLY BRING INTO DISCOURSE HERE WHAT GOOGLE WONT!!!

I belong to d unshakeable nucleus of AC that wants to lead Lagos to the promised land regardless of what u detractors cook up, we know why all these disgruntled elements are all antsy abt BRF's achievements- the now extincted JEUN SOKE syndrome!

WE WILL GET THERE!!!

Long overdue if you ask me.

I think Fashola is going about his Mega City campaign in a wrong way. I totally support the demolition of that illegal market and others that are also illegal or needs to get an upgrade but i think he should have first found a way of accomodating the legitimate traders before the destruction started. He should have set up a new market (a standard one), sold it or lease it to them before the bulldozers came in.

On a lighter note, I am of the opinion that all those anti Fashola people are for PDP, they will always find something negative to say.

ziga:

Problem with Naija is not new things, we need to fix and maintain the old things we have.

We need to take care of all the old things we have, hospitals, roads and all.

Before we start to build new things, we need to be able to take care of the old.

Thanks Ziga, you are arguing with common sense instead of with emotions.

I agree with your above assertions; but only partially. That is why we want to understand the policies of Fashola.

If you talk about roads, i might concede to your arguments. But when you talk about Hospitals, Schools, Water, energy, i would prefer a different approach.

It is a fact that the population of Lagos had been growing exponentially for the past couple of decades, so the number of hospitals and schools that was adequate 20 years ago would be grossly inadequate today, that is why many many children of poor families die, because public medical facilities are overstretched. I pray you do not have course to go to a public hospital, it is like a market place. I found out that if you want to see a doctor, you would have to get to the hospital before 7, and by then the queue would be so long, that you would be lucky to see a doctor by 1:00pm.  Many very sick children die while waiting to see a doctor.

Lagos state needs more new hospitals. it does not have to be anything sophisticated, maybe just simple consulting rooms with qualified doctors. Complicated cases can be referred to ultra- modern hospitals. Simple diseases like Malaria, typhoid and simple infectious deceases are the major problems of the society, which can easily be treated by consulting clinics.

Same for schools, Lagos needs many, many new schools. And also it does not have to be anything sophisticated. Simple Jakande-like schools would do. A lot of professionals in the society today were products of such schools.

Same for Water Schemes. No city worth its name is without clean potable piped water. The existing ones are grossly inadequate.

So Lagos state need a lot of New things before embarking on the so called Mega-city project. Building a new Mega-city without the supporting social and physical infrastructure is a recipe for anarchy.

@wirinet

I agree with you and you have strong and valid points too.

The problem i see is that the decay in Lagos has been so extensive and it has affected everything about the state.

The dilemma any lagos governor with people's interest will face is where do i start?

And no matter where you start, the beginning will always look hopeless, because innocent people will suffer. It will definitely be frustrating for the people as well as the government.

And that is the delicate stage where it gets very easy to give up. I'm sure we've all experienced situations like that in our lives where you don't know where to start and every way you turn seems to have large obstacles.

But this is where we all need to encourage ourselves.

As per clearing up the market, i am in full support of it. I also hope the displaced citizens who were truly looking to make a little buck to survive get relocated.

Fashola is a lawyer and he knows that you can not displace anyone living legally on any land, so those that were displaced from the illegal market will get no compensation but those who were displaced from their legal land/shop/businesses shall duly be compensated. i heard of a church that was demolished, but then the church was built on a legal land and had legal papers, at the end of the day, the government paid the church #45million naira to get a new place and build a new church there because the land was hindering the development of that area.

in essence, if you want to point at Lagos when pointing at other developed cities, be ready to bear the pain because toes would be stepped on (especially those on illegal lands)

honeric01:

Fashola is a lawyer and he knows that you can not displace anyone living legally on any land, so those that were displaced from the illegal market will get no compensation but those who were displaced from their legal land/shop/businesses shall duly be compensated. i heard of a church that was demolished, but then the church was built on a legal land and had legal papers, at the end of the day, the government paid the church #45million naira to get a new place and build a new church there because the land was hindering the development of that area.

in essence, if you want to point at Lagos when pointing at other developed cities, be ready to bear the pain because toes would be stepped on (especially those on illegal lands)

The issue we are discussing is not necessarily legal, its social. People have needs, it is government business to find ways of attending to those needs. People need livelihood, housing, security, government have to fashion out innovative ways to address those needs, these people are voters, and the government is meant to work on their behalf.

Developing countries did not develop by rendering people jobless and homeless, they developed by creating jobs and housing along with some other things. Nigeria's case is an aberration, where development is expected from monies collected from Abuja, so the government feels the people - especially the poor are a nuisance.
In a developed country, development is carried out by the government empowering people to be productive and able to pay tax. Hence development flows from within the social structure and not without.

I will still say it, it is good when some slums are demolished. In fact, all slums.

Enjoyment1:

I will still say it, it is good when some slums are demolished. In fact, all slums.

Do you not think that it would make more sense to "demolish" the factors that are responsible for creating the slums in the first place, than demolish the slums itself without creating alternatives. Since the poor people cannot vanish into thin air, you can put your money on it that another slum will rise from the ashes of a demolished on, in another location, its just a matter of time.

wirinet:

Do you not think that it would make more sense to "demolish" the factors that are responsible for creating the slums in the first place, than demolish the slums itself without creating alternatives. Since the poor people cannot vanish into thin air, you can put your money on it that another slum will rise from the ashes of a demolished on, in another location, its just a matter of time.

Well you are right. Demolishing slums are just not enough, except if those factors that gave rise to those slums are demolished.

wirinet:

The issue we are discussing is not necessarily legal, its social. People have needs, it is government business to find ways of attending to those needs. People need livelihood, housing, security, government have to fashion out innovative ways to address those needs, these people are voters, and the government is meant to work on their behalf.

Developing countries did not develop by rendering people jobless and homeless, they developed by creating jobs and housing along with some other things. Nigeria's case is an aberration, where development is expected from monies collected from Abuja, so the government feels the people - especially the poor are a nuisance.
In a developed country, development is carried out by the government empowering people to be productive and able to pay tax. Hence development flows from within the social structure and not without.

Is he demolishing the main markets? before he went ahead with oshodi market, people also came up shouting and whining, but we have all seen the breathe air that move has brought to Lagos. we should know that for development to take place, things like this need to go, slums don't add anything to the cities, it only takes away from it. there are series of legal shops in oshodi and other places that are yet to be rented, but Lagosians love free things, none would want to rent a shop, rather they prefer to build shanties because it cost next to nothing. if you do the right thing, you won't have to suffer when the wrong things are being corrected.

Dr Kitaun:

@Forpeace

I know so much abt BRF & BAT, also abt Ajelogo/ Akanimodo. I'm a stakeholder in LAGOS Politics so y'all shd keep shut on what u know not!

since you are a part of the problem we are trying to fix in the person of corruptor governor general fashola your right to comment or speak on issues is compromised. .You are obviously a boy here defending the illegalities of his boss so why should we take anything from you as serious? ?

your judgement is based on the money u have been making and want to continue making.

one can tell from your profile you live in abuja and we all know what the cost of living in abuja is,  .you are living big on tax payers money encouraging brf corruptions,benefiting from it and boasting about it openly on a forum where there are constant wails and cries for a better tomorrow. .

GOD is not asleep . .he will judge all you heartless criminals . . . .enemies of the poor . . .greedy scoundrels and armed robbers of the treasury . . .for how much longer do you think you can use my tax for your numerous girlfriends? ? God is not asleep

LOL!!!

Una internet anti-BRF campaigns don fail, na Incantations and Spiritual jingoism be the next on una agenda? Shameless twats!

forpeace:

since you are a part of the problem we are trying to fix in the person of corruptor governor general fashola your right to comment or speak on issues is compromised. .You are obviously a boy here defending the illegalities of his boss so why should we take anything from you as serious? ?

your judgement is based on the money u have been making and want to continue making.

one can tell from your profile you live in abuja and we all know what the cost of living in abuja is,  .you are living big on tax payers money encouraging brf corruptions,benefiting from it and boasting about it openly on a forum where there are constant wails and cries for a better tomorrow. .

GOD is not asleep . .he will judge all you heartless criminals . . . .enemies of the poor . . .greedy scoundrels and armed robbers of the treasury . . .for how much longer do you think you can use my tax for your numerous girlfriends? ? God is not asleep

uhm, i am sensing big hatred here, do you have any personal beef with BRF?