ivolt:


So you cannot differentiate between a military exercise and
military deployment?

Even if I were to agree with your false claims that the military was
deployed for combat, they did tick off both reason 2 and 3.

HungerBAD:
By Bisi Olawunmi

The secessionist insurrection of the Indigenous Peoples of Biafra (IPOB) took a dramatic turn in the week ended Saturday, September 23, 2017, during which the secessionist group was proscribed and its erstwhile boastful leader, Nnamdi Kanu, took to his heels when confronted with fired up soldiers. Reminds you of another boastful secessionist in Biafra 1 – Emeka Odimegwu Ojukwu – who also went on the lam when federal troops closed in on him back in January 1970? At least, Ojukwu walked the talk of war, but this wet pants peed on only hearing the sound of guns! So much for the empty braggadocio! Also during the same week, there was an international angle to the secessionist agitation as the Federal Government decided to name two countries – Britain and France – as collaborators in IPOB’s partitioning agenda.

Minister of Information, Culture and Tourism, Lai Mohammed, told the nation on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 how Britain and France have been tacitly complicit with IPOB in its destabilisation of Nigeria. Britain, stated the minister, continues to tolerate Radio Biafra’s hate and incendiary broadcasts from London while France is said to be the financial clearing house of IPOB from where funds flow to the secessionist group. The minister had asserted: “Let me tell you, the financial headquarters (of IPOB) is in France, we know” and also posed a rhetorical question: “Who does not know that IPOB internal radio is located in London?” Mohammed explained how Britain had been frustrating Nigeria’s diplomatic efforts with the British authorities to shut down the pirate radio station only to be given the nebulous excuse of freedom of expression.

He had wondered: “If we have a person in Nigeria openly soliciting arms to come and fight in the UK, what would you think of it. Would you consider that freedom of expression?” The minister implied that the two countries have been engaged in semantics or what I would call diplomatic jousting. Minister Mohammed spoke of “knotty diplomatic issues which you need to skip” only to add in a double talk “I don’t want any diplomatic row.” Of course, the minister knew the charges against the two countries would spark diplomatic skirmishes, perhaps low level, for now.

Well, these are trying times in Nigeria and nationalist fervor demands that the country must be ready to ruffle some diplomatic nests in defense of the sanctity of her territorial integrity and sovereignty. There is reciprocity in diplomatic relations. We need to remember that Britain and France have played ignoble roles in the international arena in recent times under the self-serving subterfuge called ‘International Community.’ Britain followed the United States to declare war on Iraq on the lie that Iraqi President, Saddam Hussein, had ‘weapons of mass destruction’ which must be neutralised.

They ended up destroying that country and got its president hanged, as a rub in. Yet, Tony Blair, the then British Prime Minister, who stridently orchestrated Gulf War II could still face the world and declare that he had no apology for the destruction of Iraq, a country that has not known peace since. Such brazenness! Such denial of criminal culpability by a British Prime Minister who had made a past time of pillorying President Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe whose main offence was winning re-elections in his country.

Apparently, Blair, with imperialist hang-over, wanted a regime change in Zimbabwe but met more than his match in President Mugabe, who once derisively called him Tony b-Liar. The old Zimbabwean war horse was right, Tony Blair lied on Iraq. So, if Britain condoned the Iraqi war, why is the Nigerian government peeved by the British High Commission’s statement condoning Radio Biafra’s hate and inciting broadcasts on the puerile doctrine of freedom of expression? The same Britain that shut down the Internet when youths went on rampage in London on the excuse that they were using it to network and mobilize others for the riot.

Talk of diplomatic duplicity or double standard. The immediate past British Prime Minister, chubby boy, David Cameron, in an expansive mood, once described Nigeria as a fantastically corrupt country, another brazenness from a country that is fantastically a receiver of stolen funds, being the financial capital of the world, both legitimate and illicit. Well, it was good riddance, as the political gambler fantastically lost the Brexit vote that saw to his exit from 10, Downing Street, the Prime Minister’s official residence.

As for France, it supported Biafra I and facilitated Emeka Ojukwu’s exile in Ivory Coast, her satellite nation, so, it should be no surprise that it is the financial clearing house for IPOB, the leading agent for Biafra II. France was indicted in the Rwanda Genocide of 1994, in which an estimated 800,000 Tutsis lost their lives, for being complicit with the then Hutu-led government. France also led the Western onslaught on Libya that saw the killing of Libyan leader, Muamar Gaddafi. In 2011, France, brazenly thwarted the will of the Ivorian people, when under the cover of ‘International Community’ mandate, it provided military support for a candidate, Alassane Quattara, in Cote D’Ivoire’s disputed presidential election conflict to capture a sitting African President, Laurent Gbagbo! Gbagbo had won the majority vote in the main election and was pronounced winner of the re-run election by the country’s Constitutional Court only for the UN Representative in Cote D’Ivoire to assume the role of electoral commission to declare Quattara as the winner!!

Sadly, Nigeria’s naïve President Goodluck Jonathan, as ECOWAS leader, had endorsed the UN envoy’s verdict, and consequent UN mandate, which accorded French military partisan involvement a dubious legitimacy. Cote D’Ivoire is France’s milking cow, a situation President Gbagbo had ended, so the empire struck back. With Quattara, who is married to a French woman, in charge, France has returned to gravy train in Cote D’Ivoire while President Gbagbo languishes in detention at The Hague facing criminal charges at the International Court of Justice.

The West sent Gbagbo to jail for a domestic conflict arising from an election dispute, but Tony Blair still struts around, a free man. Talk of the hypocrisy of the ‘International Community.

Nigeria’s political leadership should be under no illusion about any affectionate love from Britain or France, and, by extension, western countries. Britain and France are yesterday’s countries, over whose empires the sun has set, now playing a fickle third fiddle in international power relations and struggling for residual relevance in Africa. Nigeria, on the other hand, is a country of the future with great potentials which some vested interests may not want manifested being a threat to their hegemonic hold. You see, no country in Europe has Nigeria’s landmass, natural resources or population.

According to worldometers.info (2017) the combined population of Britain (66.2 million) and France (64.9 million) is 131.1 million compared to Nigeria’s 192.06 million while the combined landmass of Britain and France is 789,487sq km as against Nigeria’s 910,770sq km. Given these endowments plus high caliber human capital, the prospects of Nigeria as the great Black Hope is bright. We can now begin to understand why many countries would have dubious designs on Nigeria and would not be averse to its disintegration.

• Dr. Olawunmi, senior lecturer, Department of Mass Communication, Bowen University and former Washington Correspondent, News Agency of Nigeria (NAN).

http://guardian.ng/opinion/britain-france-and-ipob-duplicity-of-failed-empires/

jpphilips:


People like you are so used to those eastern caves that basic common sense must be interpreted with ethnic pettiness, Igbos in Nigeria have carved a niche that we collectively depend on, I am sure a lot of igbos in the west and elsewhere equally needs the protection of the Nigerian state perhaps from the reprisal of the arrogance of the umuahia lunatic, after all, there is no general consensus on his biafra meat pie.

The Nigeria our founding fathers left for us (all the ethnic groups) has a landmass of over 900k square kilometers, it doesn't belong to igbos alone, on that landmass and population, we have built our collective national security, so if you really want to leave, you may consider the option of leaving our landmass intact, you may go to any international waters, sand fill out a private country and name it your Biafra, igbos are wealthy they can afford it, I bet Nigeria will not disturb you, individuals like Richard Branson has made such investments, Countries like china have created private islands from the South china sea, that will be a test of fate for those who really want this biafra.
Attempting to take the land mass of all nigerians and convert it to Igbo only territory when other Igbos will have to share the rest of the country with the other tribes, is not only a suicidal but selfish and arrogant thought, one that even an igbo president knows must be met with force.

When others ask you to leave, they mean leave with your soul & body but leave our lands behind, Cameroon may not want to sell us theirs neither would Benin republic, i doubt if we have the military might to maintain overseas territories, the reason you got education is to earn some sense, i can see that most of those eastern cave dwellers lack it.

gidgiddy:


Military exercise is still the deployment of troops, anyway you want to see it. Military training exercises are not done in civilian areas.

Insurrection is the violent uprising of a group of people. No such thing existed in Abia state

As for aiding civil authority, there was none to aid since nobody asked for military intervention

Even if we are to believe that Operation Python dance was a way of aiding civil authority, they announced it would start on the 15th of September. The Army invaded Abia state and Kanu's house and killed several people before that date

Ngokafor:



True that...One minute,they are making noise on how their IGR is more than the entire world put together,how they are 'sohisticated' are 'feeding' and are life-lines to Igbos,how Igbos are criminals who should leave their 'land'..But the minute you mention 'dis-integration' with the attendant opportunity for them to be on their own and be free from Igbos,they go into epileptic fits of rage,protests, dis-agreements,cries and feverish conditions.

A handful of them only claim to want their own country on faceless forums like nairaland out of shame and embarassment when their desperate love for 'one Nigeria is pointed out..but in reality,they are all the same..They sure do have a morbid fear of being left alone in Nigeria for real.

DEMOO07:
But who holds you back? When the Arewa youths asked you to leave... What were your reactions. Is it not you were stylishly begging? See, u just don't know what you want. Check all Kanu's speech. Very uncoordinated, Making hate speeches ... Is that the way to go about it? It shows the level of your intellectual capabilities. Was Yoruba there when he was Making those stupid speeches? You re only envious of Yoruba achievements. Even if you go, you cant hold yourselves. The ones you have been allocated, how ha e you spent it. Instead of you to ask your leaderships questions. You are having headache about Yoruba. Yoruba are wiser, they cant support you cos your approach was wrong. So Yoruba can't be stupid like you. We see end of issues from the start. We are the most civilised in Nigeria. The most accommodating and hospitable. I know you yourself benefited from Yoruba free education which cant be at your country. We see your strengths and we utilized it to our advantage unlike you. That is wisdom!

ivolt:

I am not aware of any law prohibits military from carrying out exercise in any part of Nigeria,
if there is, kindly cite such laws.

Ipob member were terrors to the public and security agents

Shutting down a state with illegal protest and rendering civil authority powerless
with constant harassment warrants a military aid.

The military is under no obligation to give you a date for their exercises.

Given the penchant of ipob to link all recent deaths to politics, I do not
believe any army killing story unless with hard evidence.

DEMOO07:
But who holds you back? When the Arewa youths asked you to leave... What were your reactions. Is it not you were stylishly begging? See, u just don't know what you want. Check all Kanu's speech. Very uncoordinated, Making hate speeches ... Is that the way to go about it? It shows the level of your intellectual capabilities. Was Yoruba there when he was Making those stupid speeches? You re only envious of Yoruba achievements. Even if you go, you cant hold yourselves. The ones you have been allocated, how ha e you spent it. Instead of you to ask your leaderships questions. You are having headache about Yoruba. Yoruba are wiser, they cant support you cos your approach was wrong. So Yoruba can't be stupid like you. We see end of issues from the start. We are the most civilised in Nigeria. The most accommodating and hospitable. I know you yourself benefited from Yoruba free education which cant be at your country. We see your strengths and we utilized it to our advantage unlike you. That is wisdom!

efeski:
[s]first of all, it seems that by default, you guys are wired to insult any contrary opinion or any view that doesnt rhyme with the ibo narrative so its not a question of seeing reasons to insult people based on airing their views

then,

ogundamasi and co will talk because just like you guys they also have freedom of expression especially on matters that concern our collective interest, welfare or coexistence.

moreover, when the sh!t hits the fan and you guys start falling like chickens or a stack of dominoes, y'all would then cry foul like the rest of the nation dont give a damn when you alienated yourselves by insulting every tom, dick and harry in the first place.

Once upon a time Ikemba lured you guys with sweet and scintilating rhetorics and like the children of hamelin lost to the tunes of the pied piper, more than three million (3,000,000) souls perished needlessly. What did he do, he ran away on exile. As at that time the principle of
stand/die for what you believe in was probably lost to him. He came back and was given a hero's welcome only to be marooned by the same people after forming a political party. makes me wonder, you heed his call to war, but cant trust him enough to put in at the helms of affairs using democratic processes. Taka good look in the mirror and ask yourselves what exactly is the problem my dear hebrew heebo eebo ibo igbo brethren.

Enter Nnamdi
Nigga blows hot air about shutting down the country should there be any attempt to arrest him. How he wont go on exile bla bla bla. Declares sit at home. Bestrides the land like a colossus. obviously suffering from narcissism and megalomania, partly induced by the sycophants and ass lickers and piss drinkers cowering before him all. Flagrantly flounting condition after condition of his bail.
Emboldened by social media videos of the horde of mostly unemployed youths and disgruntled elements aka supporters and fake cries of aye axemen, arrow mates / SS ooo bloody cries, forms and inspects guard of honor as a field marshall would; then like a junkie high on crack attempts to stop armored personnel carriers on a routine patrol with sticks and stones.
Niggah probably got a few broken bones and either pulling a skibii--- faking his death, or indeed has pulled an ojukwu --- he who

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fights

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and runs away lives to boast another day.
and then some uneducated and misguided folks here on nairaland would be disturbing da peace with dim witted half truths and hate filled comments enough to make a nigga puke at their level of stupidity.
in one breath you claim to be jack the giant slayer and in another you cry as an oppressed and marginalised victim.
tomorrow you run away and come back next week and start insulting people.
it goes round and round and shows the Igbos dont know what they want.


NB:
Insults are welcome. The one with most likes get a. 40 shots of tokillher <tagbo probably drank fake tequila come to think of it
or b. iphone hex or
c. All paid pilgrimage to israel

Bluetooth2:


It's funny how you guys think independence is given on a platter of gold despite what recently happened to Catalan and Kurdistan. Not until enough blood has been spilled just like old Yugoslavia or Sudan, that the UN can come to the aid of Biafra.

Need I remind you that your hero ran away on hearing a few shots despite all the threat of raining hell on Nigeria. The point is secession agenda is not for cowards like Ojuku and Kanu!

bigfish3k:


you have not proved that I wrote wrongly with any superior argument order than to abuse me 'as lack of sense' for stating the obvious
did our forefathers leave us with a unitary system? is this unitary system working? there will be calm if we accept what our forefathers left for us like regionalism and 50% derivation
the igbos feel that their knack for growth is being impeded through deliberate policies against its region
if u claim that the whole 900k land mass is Nigerias....... so why not develop it equally and be fair to all, why the glaring nepotism against us
your policies are making us to feel that our landmass is not included. so we know what is best for us and u wouldn't allow us

According to ur analogy, Eritrea and east timor; Ukraine and other former USSR enclaves; Croatia, Serbia and other Yugoslavia enclaves I guess all left their natural God given land for others to go and build their new countries on the atlantic and other oceans

I schooled and grew up in the west and am still there, don't be having the believe that anybody opposing u have never crossed the niger

no tribe has demonstrated more love for Nigeria through its actions like the Igbos; but we are just all demanding for simple justice and fair play which Nigeria has been denying us for more than 50yrs. or don't u think there should be reactions?

hope u have noticed that during the heat of Nnamdi Kalus agitations , the senate agreed that it was going to revisit the devolution of powers debate and vote which they earlier voted against, now they feel that they have defeated him, they are now back tracking

lesson of this is that these people know what is best for this country and refuse to do it, so blame them and not those agitating.
they are obviously waiting for another person to spring up with agitations before they start to sing about the right things to do
instead of them to make use of this window of opportunity of peace

modelmike7:
Biafrans is dead already, it died with Sir Ojukwu of blessed memory!

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jpphilips:


Youngman, I only advised on how best to achieve your Biafra fantasy, I am not here to patronize the usual uninformed rhetorics of disgruntled youths.
Can you show me proof that your founding fathers bequeathed 50% derivation to you?

I am sure you are so historically malnutritioned not to know why we adopted Unitary system of governance, that is your personal problem to deal with.

What igbos are thinking or feeling is not a national problem, igbos don't make 50% of our population, if we must react to what igbos are feeling, you should be smart enough to outline what the Yorubas, Hausas, fulani, urhobo, Ijaws etc are feeling as well.

Before you can make an informed arguement on development, you should be smart enough to explain why the plethora of igbo appointees in previous administration never brought their infrastructure up to speed, if they did, there wont be any vacuum to fill at dwindled resources and borrowed funds, dont you agree?

If you envy the former USSR, Eritrea and others, you should be smart enough to do what they did. Did you hear they got to where they are by importing a lunatic from London disturbing their airwaves?

You can not prove beyond reasonable doubt that igbos have sacrifised more than other tribes in this country. The first civilian president of Yoruba extraction served in the military, defended the integrity of this country, his son is doing same, likewise several igalas, Ijaws, hausa, fulani etc have paid the supreme price for this country, while there are igbos in the military, it is silly to assume we have sacrifised more than others.
Businesses littered nationwide by igbos is not sacrifise but mere survival strategy.

bigfish3k:


which precedence did u follow to give ur advice that we should leave our land to go and develop a country in the ocean. which new country has ever done that?
the igbos propped up businesses in various parts of the country which other tribes are not doing, even though its symbiotic, its also risky as u can see from the quit notice given by the north and we are still building to develop the country, its a huge sacrifice

other tribes u mentioned are just comfortable with being marginalized, but we are not, that's why we are speaking up. we cant all be cowed. the best u can do is to support those that want freedom instead of castigating them or u remain neutral

where are the Igbo appointees u are talking about that will develop the region. are appointees not delegated authorities that will only do the biddings of their masters?

I am talking about a de-tribalised Nigerian president that will consciously develop the Igbo region with sea port through river niger/oguta lake and railway being top on the list of priorities given our business inclination

I don't see the army fighting and killing its own citizens during the civil war to make them be part of u against their wish as defending the integrity of the nation. 3million igbos died in that war too therefore we also sacrificed, so that sacrifice of defending integrity of the nation is balanced on both sides

but no other tribe has done economic sacrifice like the igbos

u are encouraging us to go to war if we want freedom, don't forget that its both sides that will loose souls, thereafter they will still come to round table discussion to resolve issues which u are avoiding now.
don't u think it will be better to sit and talk and achieve ur aims without going to war so as to avoid the loss of precious lives
btw, USSR dissolved peacefully, cezck and Slovak the same, Eritrea the same

I just want the best for my people if we are Nigerians. I want fairness, I want justice. we are not asking to cheat u, we are only asking u to stop cheating us. remember NNPC 15 appointments

Remember, it was an advise and nothing more, you can take it or leave, while you think you can ask whatever from Nigeria including balkanizing our territorial integrity, thereby undermining our collective national security, I ask you, what was your father's role during the birth of nigeria or you think any nobody from anywhere can just question our collective existence?

you are doing your own private business, at the expense of our collective foreign reserve, you call it sacrificing for Nigeria? wow!! this is the shallowest reasoning I have heard this year, how about calling it exploiting Nigerians since you trade for profit?

A President is only detribalized when he favours the igbo region? wow!! you could have just said you are more Nigerian than everyone else , you are a breathing joke.

3m Nigerians died in the Biafran war? let me pretend I didn't notice the statistical contraption you vomited up there, people who fought on the side of Nigeria are the true heroes of the war, those who fought behind ojukwu are mere pawns in ojukwu's chess game, sad but true. It doesn't matter whether or not you believe it. I am not sure you will in coming years Eulogize people fighting behind Shekau, will you?

I only advised you to go and sandfill an Island in your quest for Biafra, if your brain interpreted it as encouraging you to go to war, by all means you have your IQ to blame for that not me.
USSR followed a process in addition to other exigencies, I didn't hear they imported a runaway radio lunatic to achieve independence did you?

Are you begging APC for appointments? wow!! that's a new one, you told our people that APC is an Hausa, Islamic party that has come to Islamize Nigeria, leading to their fatal defeat in our region, are you suggesting you want to be part of the Islamization process now that APC controls the central government? Which appointments are you interested in Just to be sure what to advise Mr President? how about Minister for Islamization?


I need you to answer this question, just to be sure I am not wasting my time with uninformed kids littered everywhere on nairaland. I have learnt lately that most of you talk rubbish with confidence.

jpphilips:


Remember, it was an advise and nothing more, you can take it or leave, while you think you can ask whatever from Nigeria including balkanizing our territorial integrity, thereby undermining our collective national security, I ask you, what was your father's role during the birth of nigeria or you think any nobody from anywhere can just question our collective existence?

you are doing your own private business, at the expense of our collective foreign reserve, you call it sacrificing for Nigeria? wow!! this is the shallowest reasoning I have heard this year, how about calling it exploiting Nigerians since you trade for profit?

A President is only detribalized when he favours the igbo region? wow!! you could have just said you are more Nigerian than everyone else , you are a breathing joke.

3m Nigerians died in the Biafran war? let me pretend I didn't notice the statistical contraption you vomited up there, people who fought on the side of Nigeria are the true heroes of the war, those who fought behind ojukwu are mere pawns in ojukwu's chess game, sad but true. It doesn't matter whether or not you believe it. I am not sure you will in coming years Eulogize people fighting behind Shekau, will you?

I only advised you to go and sandfill an Island in your quest for Biafra, if your brain interpreted it as encouraging you to go to war, by all means you have your IQ to blame for that not me.
USSR followed a process in addition to other exigencies, I didn't hear they imported a runaway radio lunatic to achieve independence did you?

Are you begging APC for appointments? wow!! that's a new one, you told our people that APC is an Hausa, Islamic party that has come to Islamize Nigeria, leading to their fatal defeat in our region, are you suggesting you want to be part of the Islamization process now that APC controls the central government? Which appointments are you interested in Just to be sure what to advise Mr President? how about Minister for Islamization?


I need you to answer this question, just to be sure I am not wasting my time with uninformed kids littered everywhere on nairaland. I have learnt lately that most of you talk rubbish with confidence.

Can you show me proof that your founding fathers bequeathed 50% derivation to you?

WinningSun:



they are the major consumer of our reserves. all thier business is about importation.
even the young ones are aiming to be a major importer. later they will open their big mouth and say dollar is going high. naira doesn't have value.

jpphilips:


I can bet you that those traders in the South east have no clue where the usd they take to china comes from, they sit in their enclave with disgraceful, directionless illiteracy disturbing the whole country, I have a lot of respect for Igbos outside the SE no doubt, those left behind are as dumb as corpse. reading from them makes me wonder if Nigeria is split between the brains and the brainless.