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Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Leonbonapart(m): 7:32am On Nov 01, 2017 |
Abdullahi4u7:of the whole world |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Myde4naija(m): 7:40am On Nov 01, 2017 |
shallysgirl:lol, I know Jesus would have show appear to you in ur dream, can u please described him to me, cos all the Jesus picture I use to see everywhere are full of comedy. 2 Likes |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by TeamSimple(m): 8:15am On Nov 01, 2017 |
Leonbonapart:just like the Crusaders , Orange volunteers , anti-balakas and othe Christians terrorist groups left the world in shock in the past . The world knows terrorism and human slavery started through Christianity . 1 Like |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by abujamal: 10:24am On Nov 01, 2017 |
Lakside1955:that is in arabic not in islamic Studies. We have christians among arabic. Go to egypt |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by ENGANI(m): 11:07am On Nov 01, 2017 |
Leonbonapart:You have already displayed what your jungle parents upbrought you with, that is malicious insult.You are absolutely ignorant, clueless and dumb about Christianity per se, you dont have point to substantiate your claims so end up insuting my religion. .....You are but a disgrace and just a bad egg among christians in Nigeria and world largely. Go to your jungle and study the scriptures, understand them and come I can make things clear to you, good Christians never insult someone's religion as you did, I have reiterated that I will never insult Prophet Jesus (pbuh) and his Mother Mary (pbuh) the way you insulted Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).I rest my case 1 Like |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Aegerine: 3:20pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
Chiedu4Trump: Yes! you are right. Both the Christian and the Muslims do not serve the same God, and we SHALL never serve the same God. A Muslim will never become as confused to the extent of worshipping Jesus Christ or 3 in 1 as your faith dictate. Instead, they worship the only one and true Allah who created your own acclaimed God (Jesus). Mind you, I am a Muslim so that you understand clearly the angle from which I am coming from. That verse (46: 9) of the Qur'an that you cited and used wrongly to justify your assertion of " Christianity as a true religion " does not hold any water to a Muslim who knows his or her onion. We are only concerned about the innocent and feeble Muslims who might be caught in the web of your deception. Yes Muhammad was not a new thing among the messenger as he said. A simple logical reason should convey the meaning of that clearly to you. If not, then let me you out. The simple meaning is that many messengers have come before him starting from Noah, Lut, Yunus, Ibrahim, Musa, Isa (your acclaimed Jesus), and his preaching was the same as all what those other prophet came with. The first challenge here for you is that if you think or believe or affirm that Muhammad teaching was different from them, then bring forth it. In fact, go deeper into your search to Qur'an to Quran 18 vs 110, Allah instructed him to clearly express his identity as a human being like me and you. Therefore, a Muslim does not worship Muhammad or see him as God, you are the one that turned Jesus Christ and his mother into Gods even in clear violation of his teachings. On the second part point of that verse, it was Allah that was instructing Muhammad to tell the people that he does not know what is going to be done with him. But in your clever scheming to confuse the whole world that your religion is the way, you normally omits the word "SAY" at the beginning of that verse to make it look like it was Muhammad (Peace be upon him) direct saying. However, we are not surprised because your religion is based, nurtured and nourished by deception. In fact, the Christianity is based on falsehood in totality. Before you pick a fight with me on this, go back to your bible and read Romans 3 vs 8. Let me help you, in that verse, we read that: "If through my falsehood, the glory of the Lord is proclaimed, why am I being adjudged a sinner" (Check your Bible for confirmation pls) In essence that verse is your source of information to continue spreading falsehood and deceiving people till eternity). So, we are not surprised that you twisted the meaning of Quran 46 vs 9 so as to glorify your God. Now back to the meaning of that verse, who created Muhammad? Allah. Therefore, Muhammad is just a servant, slave and messenger of Allah and nothing more. So, it is not out of place for the creator to instruct his creation to make such proclamation. After all, the dominion and supreme sovereignty lies with Allah and he can choose to do anything he likes with Muhammad. Muhammad was also happy to confess such because he knows that the order was from his creator. That does not means that Allah has not honoured Muhammad or will give him more honour on a particular which we shall all witness. It is an expression and confirmation that dominion and final decision lies with Allah. Mind you, several such sayings that signifies servitude to a higher being were also credited to Jesus Christ in your bible. I can help you with upon request. So stop making so much fuss about Qur'an 46 vs 9 and take time to study and understand more of your bible. On beat and love your wife issue, this is too trivial and insignificant for me to bate an eyelid over. Atleast for now till further notice. Now I will ask you the following questions. Help us with answer for us to begin to take Christianity with any iota of seriousness. 1: What is the origin and meaning of the name Christianity. Did Jesus give the religion the name 2: What is the literal meaning of the Bible? As far as I know the term "Bible" is Greek word. What is the direct English translation? 3 Reflect on these names: Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam. Any similar trend among the first 3? Does Islam stand out from the pack or not. 4: Do you agree that the Bible is full or contractions and errors or not? 5: Reflect on the name; ALLAH and the name: GOD. Can you give us the origin of the 2. Which one sounds unique befitting a true supreme being. Let me help you on this. God can be anything ranging from Amadioha, Ogun, Oya, Human being, water tree etc. The distinction by the capital "G" or small "g" in the spelling (of God and god) can only be observed in written form. in the oral form, both God and god are exactly the same thing. In fact, it has both the masculine and feminine version to it. That is: God and Goddess or god and goddess. Therefore, the term God or god is ambiguous and can have multiple meaning. We only use it in language to denote a being above the ordinary which can even be a human being. So how can that be name befitting of true God as you claim to worship? Now reflect on the name "ALLAH" Can you have "Allah" and Allahess" ? of course not Whether you write it as Allah or allah ( even though writing it is "allah"is not good enough), it still means the same the thing. That is God of the Muslim, and that is the name he has given himself which nothing even and Angel can never share with him. Thank you 2 Likes |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Kdon2: 8:09pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
webincomeplus: In d Quran or Bible. you all are just intimidated by the name Jesus Christ the saviour of all human race who is by the way a Jew and not Arab! webincomeplus: In d Quran or Bible. you all are just intimidated by the name Jesus Christ the saviour of all human race who is by the way a Jew and not Arab! |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by webincomeplus(m): 9:04pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
Kdon2:You try. You can now clap for yourself. |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Kdon2: 9:13pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
webincomeplus:Good... thank you. webincomeplus:Good... thank you. |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by davidodiba(m): 8:17am On Nov 02, 2017 |
Laid2001: Take this.... THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER BETWEEN JESUS AND GOD AND THE HOLY SPIRIT... Open your mind and learn without sentiment..... |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Abdullahi4u7(m): 11:51pm On Nov 02, 2017 |
Leonbonapart:How? Any evidence? |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Abdullahi4u7(m): 11:54pm On Nov 02, 2017 |
davidodiba:1+1+1+1=1 crew. opening one's mind to learn without sentiment will only make one realise that what you said was a lie! |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Abdullahi4u7(m): 12:08am On Nov 03, 2017 |
Douglaufuoma:Who is the father? |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Abdullahi4u7(m): 12:10am On Nov 03, 2017 |
Douglaufuoma:Whatever Allah wishes, he addresses himself with. |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Douglaufuoma(m): 10:59pm On Nov 03, 2017 |
Abdullahi4u7:then why fault christian when they say God is trinity; three persons in one God. Because a father, mother and children can make up one family and not families, why do the Koran then claim oneness of God. Brother try and read in between the lines. If u most eat toad, eat the big one. Let's not be like the wolf that says the milipide is too dirty but can pluck leave to eat it. If u believe allah is one hold up to it not to turn round and tell me again the same allah now can claim more than one |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Douglaufuoma(m): 11:06pm On Nov 03, 2017 |
Abdullahi4u7:father mother children, one family and three families. The brain is use for thinking, sorry I say so. If you can call group of people working together with name; like zenth bank, access bank staffs e.t.c and other zenth banks, access banks staffs. What more a supreme being |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Abdullahi4u7(m): 11:27pm On Nov 03, 2017 |
Douglaufuoma:Sorry for wetin? I should even be the one to tell you sorry for uttering that statement because it contradicted you and not me. Regarding your statement, As far as God is concerned, He needs not help from anyone. Only one person can't work as a bank 'cos he'll surely need more hands. God doesn't! |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Abdullahi4u7(m): 11:32pm On Nov 03, 2017 |
Douglaufuoma:You don't know the difference between plural of majesty and the normal plural of when something is more than one. They are two different things entirely. God's three persons? How ridiculous! Think na! |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Douglaufuoma(m): 11:38pm On Nov 03, 2017 |
Abdullahi4u7:please teach me, because I was never taught that. Why don't emirs, obas, sultan and president don't use that word we. Then didn't Allah that claim to be one use single noun or pronoun all through. We are learning everyday |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Douglaufuoma(m): 11:39pm On Nov 03, 2017 |
Abdullahi4u7:do you believe in the Holy spirit |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Douglaufuoma(m): 11:40pm On Nov 03, 2017 |
Aegerine:brother u tried, I like your courage. First Jesus did not write anything about himself, because He don't need to do it. Great men don't sing their song rather other people do it for them. Let's come down to the name, Allah said there is other gods aside him, if truely the name can not be pluralized as u claim, why didn't he say no other Allahs beside me, why using that word gods. Again why did Allah now use we instead of I like this; “Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create!” (Quran 23:14). Talking of contradiction, please explain this to me It is he who has created man from water -- Sura 25:54 And God has created every living creature from water. -- Sura 24:45 We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape. -- Sura 15:26 Amongst his signs is this, that he created you from dust. -- Sura 30:20 But the Koran confirm that Jesus is coming again on the last day to take the holy ones away, true or false. Is any name of the prophet wives mention in the Koran, what of his mother, if no why and if yes please quote it for me. Why is that Jesus and Mary' s name appear the most in the Koran more than any names. |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Aegerine: 9:59am On Nov 04, 2017 |
Douglaufuoma: You are a funny person. You think you know about Islam, but the truth is that you know nothing about it. To start with, no need to salute any courage of mine. It didn't take me any courage to refute the lie which brother was peddling by twisting the meaning of Qur'an 46 VS 9 in adherence to what Romans 3 vs 8 instructed you to do in your Bible. ( You can your bible for reference if you are not sure). Now, to the issue at hand, your assertion of great men not singing their own praise but sung by others is a tactical approach to digress from the spirit and content of what you quoted. Why don't you address the questions I raised, and face the challenges squarely before inundating me with another round of questions which I believe the intent is not sincere. However, I will not shy away from your assertions (I don't see them as sincere questions) like you did in my own case. Who is singing whose praise? You mean the praises of Jesus as sung by Paul, Mathew, Luke and co that culminated into what you referred to as Christianity today? Well good for you and not for me. For your information, Muhammad does not need any praise singer like ordinary men did for Jesus. Allah himself has already praised, defended,and elevated him. And if you think or belief that Muhammad is the author of the Qur'an, table for evidence. To the second issue, The Plural "We" as used in reference to Allah in the Qur'an is something my respected brothers on this forum have done enough to clear your doubt on, but you can choose to believe whatever you want. However, for the sake of emphasis, that usage of "We" by Allah with respect to himself is a exhibition of Majesty, dominion and sovereignty. If you don't know the only function of we is not to indicate first person pluralism, but what we have said above. Some royalty, kings and emperors in the world use it to signify such. Pls read up on the usage of the pronoun "We" elsewhere. You said Qur'an admitted that Jesus is coming back to pack the holy one. Coming back is true, but packing the holy one is false. Our own Qur'an from Allah did not admit that Jesus is coming back to pack some set of people. We have been duly informed about what he is coming back to achieve. Jesus is our beloved prophet you can not educate us about him, we already know better. Name calling in the Qur'an? Why was Muhammad wasn't mentioned as much as Jesus Christ? Well, it will interest you to note that Moses was mentioned on many occasions more than Jesus Christ, and Shaytan (Satan) was even mentioned more than Jesus Christ and Moses. Going by your reasoning, Allah regards Shaytan more than Moses, and Jesus, and Moses more than Jesus, and Jesus more than Muhammad since your yardstick or reverence indicator is the number of times each individual personal name was mentioned. Does that make any sense to you? I want to assume for you "NO". Therefore, that Muhammad direct name was not called on many occasions is due to greater respect and love that Allah has for him. He has been duly addressed by his titles such as Messenger, Prophet and the likes. The 4 occasions on which his name was directly mentioned by Allah were out of necessity that required direct name calling. If not his name would not have been mentioned at all, and you would have said Jesus owned the Qur'an. ........ Funnny set of people. By the way, you normally said that Muhammad authored the Qur'an and sang his own praise. Why didn't he mention his name in a more number of times and as well his wife, children and relatives. Your argument are always contradictory even to yourself. Lastly, help us to address those questions about Christianity and your bible that I asked in what you quoted. If you can't, pls let me be, I don't have time for this. Thank you. |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Abdullahi4u7(m): 11:03am On Nov 04, 2017 |
Douglaufuoma:Are you comparing these people with our creator? what do they have in common with Allah? |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Abdullahi4u7(m): 11:05am On Nov 04, 2017 |
Douglaufuoma:what's holy spirit? How's that related to our topic of discussion? |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Douglaufuoma(m): 12:09pm On Nov 04, 2017 |
Abdullahi4u7:u said its power of Majesty, ooh. please get it clear I am not trying to compare man and my God, never. but if presidency uses we, it means they are more than one. I am try to understand your concept of we referring to one, then if you can agree that we can refer to a single person according to your logic, why three persons cannot be one. father mother children; one family, executives legislators judiciary; one government, father son holy spirit; one God. |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Douglaufuoma(m): 12:17pm On Nov 04, 2017 |
Aegerine:you claim to know the bible and koran, but you know nothing. address the contradiction i cited from the Koran, then quote the contradiction you notice in the bible. the names you mention did the Koran say they are with God, if yes then why the case of Mohammed saying he don't know what the future have for him. how will you feel to see other people names in your master's book but your name was not there |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Abdullahi4u7(m): 1:02pm On Nov 04, 2017 |
Douglaufuoma:who said 'power of majesty'? |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Douglaufuoma(m): 1:15pm On Nov 04, 2017 |
Abdullahi4u7:please explain what you mean by the majesty in your write up. and also why the writer of the Koran use single noun in one place and plural noun in another for Allah. we are learning every day |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by davidodiba(m): 2:02pm On Nov 04, 2017 |
Abdullahi4u7: Lie? Your father is the father of lies. The devil is your daddy. ..so you are the lier |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Abdullahi4u7(m): 4:51pm On Nov 04, 2017 |
davidodiba:Who is this? Why do you lack manner to this extent? Can't you defend your point without insulting anyone? nawa o |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Abdullahi4u7(m): 5:05pm On Nov 04, 2017 |
Douglaufuoma:Look up the meaning of majesty in your dictionary, then think about how it applies to God. concerning why Allah addresses Himself as We in some places in the Qur'an and I in others, I can still recall that I told you that whatever Allah likes, He addresses himself with. But We as used in the Qur'an is a plural of majesty. Allah is one! Reference? Take a look at Qur'an112: Allah in the name of The Most Affectionate, the Merciful. Say you, He is Allah, the one. .1 Allah the Independent, Care free. .2 He begot none' nor was He begotten. .3 And nor anyone is equal to Him. .4 |
Re: Rasheed Jimoh-Ijaodola, Muslim Professor Bags PhD In Christian Studies by Douglaufuoma(m): 9:11pm On Nov 04, 2017 |
Abdullahi4u7:: Definition of MAJESTY plural majesties sovereign power, authority, or dignity —used in addressing or referring to reigning sovereigns and their consorts Your Majesty · Her Majesty's Government · a : royal bearing or aspect : GRANDEUR b : greatness or splendor of quality or character another meaning majesty noun, plural maj·es·ties. 1. regal, lofty, or stately dignity; imposing character; grandeur: majesty of bearing; the majesty of Chartres. 2. supreme greatness or authority; sovereignty: All paid tribute to the majesty of Rome. 3. (usually initial capital letter) a title used when speaking of or to a sovereign (usually preceded by his, her, or your ): His Majesty's Navy; Will your Majesty hear our petitions? 4. a royal personage, or royal personages collectively: The royal wedding was attended by the majesties of Europe. 5. Christ in Majesty, a representation of Christ as ruler of the universe. please I can't see were they use we instead of I. educate me more on why Allah that claim to be one all of a suddenly change to we, and he said his glory will he not share with nobody. |
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