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65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by UmarIbnShittu(m): 8:32am On Nov 01, 2017
1.   Why crucifixion?

Jews wanted him to be killed through crucifixion, so they can prove that Jesus is not a beloved of God, rather the curse of God is on him. Jews could have killed him easily as they were in hundreds of thousands in number and very strong. If killing should have been their desire, they could have done it easily. Just like they paid thirty pieces of silver to one of his disciples, if they would have paid him more, he might have done this service too. But they wanted him to be crucified so they can prove that he is not from God, rather he is an imposter and a fabricator. If he was from God, then God will definitely save him. May be that was the reason that Jesus was so reluctant to suffer on the cross.

2.   Who wanted him to be crucified?

Two of Jesus’ disciples commented (in Luke 24:20) as follows:

And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him. (Luke 24:20)

They all say unto him, Let him be crucified. And the Governor said what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying Let him be crucified…. Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children. (Matt 27: 22-25)
3.   Crucifixion was demanded by the Jews

When the chief priests therefore and officers saw him, they cried out, saying, Crucify him, crucify him. (John 19:6)

The Jews answered him (Pilate), We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God. (John 19:7)

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4.  One incident and many aspects?
 Romans took it as punishment of sedition.
The Jews made it as a punishment of blasphemy.
Jesus considers it a killing, when one of his disciples betrayed him.
Christians think a sacrifice presented for our salvation.
Who is right?

5.  Why Jesus was hiding?

That’s why the Jews paid thirty pieces of silver to Judas giving them the necessary information about Jesus.

…Neither go into town, nor tell it to any in the town.  (Mark 8: 26)

And he charged them that they should tell no man of him. ((Mark 8: 30)
6.  Jesus’ prayers and supplications to be saved from crucifixion:

Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder.            (John 26: 36)

And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me.   (John 26: 39)

…. He went away again, and prayed the second time and prayed, saying ……and prayed the third time, saying the same words.   (John 26:42-44)
7.  God always hears his prayers and his prayers were heard

And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I think thee that thou hast heard me. And I knew that thou hearest me always.       (John 11:41-42)

Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared.  (Hebrews 5:7)
8.   An Angel was sent to strengthen Jesus?

And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.  (Luke 22: 43-44)
9.   Pilate delays in judgment

Pilate intentionally delayed in giving his verdict and did not deliver his judgment until and unless he was sure that due to the Sabbath, Jesus would be on the cross for only a few hours. Jesus a thirty-three years young person was on the cross for only few (3-6) hours.

10.  Pilate’s complete favor to Jesus

Pilate was in complete favor of Jesus, considering him innocent, and for his wife’s dream, was trying to save his life. That’s why Pilate wanted to use his special right to free one person, but the Jews did not let him do it.

Pilate said unto them, whom will ye that I release unto you? Barabbas or Jesus…. But the chief Priests and the elders persuaded the multitude that they should ask Barabbas, and destroy Jesus. The Governor answered and said unto them, whether of the twain will ye that I release unto you? They said Barabbas. Matt 27: 17-21)
11.   Pilate’s wife sees a dream to save Jesus

When he sat down on the judgment seat, his wife sent unto him saying, Have thou nothing to do with that just man: for I have suffered many things this day in a dream because of him.”  (Matt 27:19)
Why was this dream was against the purpose of the advent of Jesus, to give his life on the cross? Her dream should have been that crucify him immediately. Let him finish his work. But her dream was against it. Although her dream was so special that it was mentioned in the Bible.

12.  Pilate finds him “Not guilty”

 … Pilate … he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person. (Matt 27:24)


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13.  Earthquake, eclipse & a storm – A sign of God’s disliking & anger

An earthquake, eclipse of Sun and a Storm, all three occurred just after the crucifixion is a clear sign of God’s anger.

Now from sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour. (Matt 27:45)

…the earth did quake, and the rocks rent. (Matt 27: 51)
14.   Pilate marveled

And Pilate marveled if he were already dead. (Mark 15: 44)
When Pilate was informed about the death of Jesus on the cross, he marveled at hearing it. We know that Pilate was the most experienced person in this field; who may have experienced hundreds of crucifixions in his time. That is why; he knew very it well that a 33 years, unmarried young person shouldn’t die in few hours, while the other two thieves (elder than him) were still alive after the crucifixion.

15.   The other two (thieves) next to Jesus were still alive so they broke their legs

Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him. (John 19: 32)

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Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by ifex370(m): 8:45am On Nov 01, 2017
UmarIbnShittu:
1.   Why crucifixion?

Jews wanted him to be killed through crucifixion, so they can prove that Jesus is not a beloved of God, rather the curse of God is on him. Jews could have killed him easily as they were in hundreds of thousands in number and very strong. If killing should have been their desire, they could have done it easily. Just like they paid thirty pieces of silver to one of his disciples, if they would have paid him more, he might have done this service too. But they wanted him to be crucified so they can prove that he is not from God, rather he is an imposter and a fabricator. If he was from God, then God will definitely save him. May be that was the reason that Jesus was so reluctant to suffer on the cross.

2.   Who wanted him to be crucified?

Two of Jesus’ disciples commented (in Luke 24:20) as follows:

And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him. (Luke 24:20)

They all say unto him, Let him be crucified. And the Governor said what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying Let him be crucified…. Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children. (Matt 27: 22-25)
3.   Crucifixion was demanded by the Jews

When the chief priests therefore and officers saw him, they cried out, saying, Crucify him, crucify him. (John 19:6)

The Jews answered him (Pilate), We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God. (John 19:7)

=============================

4.  One incident and many aspects?
 Romans took it as punishment of sedition.
The Jews made it as a punishment of blasphemy.
Jesus considers it a killing, when one of his disciples betrayed him.
Christians think a sacrifice presented for our salvation.
Who is right?

5.  Why Jesus was hiding?

That’s why the Jews paid thirty pieces of silver to Judas giving them the necessary information about Jesus.

…Neither go into town, nor tell it to any in the town.  (Mark 8: 26)

And he charged them that they should tell no man of him. ((Mark 8: 30)
6.  Jesus’ prayers and supplications to be saved from crucifixion:

Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder.            (John 26: 36)

And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me.   (John 26: 39)

…. He went away again, and prayed the second time and prayed, saying ……and prayed the third time, saying the same words.   (John 26:42-44)
7.  God always hears his prayers and his prayers were heard

And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I think thee that thou hast heard me. And I knew that thou hearest me always.       (John 11:41-42)

Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared.  (Hebrews 5:7)
8.   An Angel was sent to strengthen Jesus?

And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.  (Luke 22: 43-44)
9.   Pilate delays in judgment

Pilate intentionally delayed in giving his verdict and did not deliver his judgment until and unless he was sure that due to the Sabbath, Jesus would be on the cross for only a few hours. Jesus a thirty-three years young person was on the cross for only few (3-6) hours.

10.  Pilate’s complete favor to Jesus

Pilate was in complete favor of Jesus, considering him innocent, and for his wife’s dream, was trying to save his life. That’s why Pilate wanted to use his special right to free one person, but the Jews did not let him do it.

Pilate said unto them, whom will ye that I release unto you? Barabbas or Jesus…. But the chief Priests and the elders persuaded the multitude that they should ask Barabbas, and destroy Jesus. The Governor answered and said unto them, whether of the twain will ye that I release unto you? They said Barabbas. Matt 27: 17-21)
11.   Pilate’s wife sees a dream to save Jesus

When he sat down on the judgment seat, his wife sent unto him saying, Have thou nothing to do with that just man: for I have suffered many things this day in a dream because of him.”  (Matt 27:19)
Why was this dream was against the purpose of the advent of Jesus, to give his life on the cross? Her dream should have been that crucify him immediately. Let him finish his work. But her dream was against it. Although her dream was so special that it was mentioned in the Bible.

12.  Pilate finds him “Not guilty”

 … Pilate … he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person. (Matt 27:24)


==============================

13.  Earthquake, eclipse & a storm – A sign of God’s disliking & anger

An earthquake, eclipse of Sun and a Storm, all three occurred just after the crucifixion is a clear sign of God’s anger.

Now from sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour. (Matt 27:45)

…the earth did quake, and the rocks rent. (Matt 27: 51)
14.   Pilate marveled

And Pilate marveled if he were already dead. (Mark 15: 44)
When Pilate was informed about the death of Jesus on the cross, he marveled at hearing it. We know that Pilate was the most experienced person in this field; who may have experienced hundreds of crucifixions in his time. That is why; he knew very it well that a 33 years, unmarried young person shouldn’t die in few hours, while the other two thieves (elder than him) were still alive after the crucifixion.

15.   The other two (thieves) next to Jesus were still alive so they broke their legs

Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him. (John 19: 32)

All the passage's you gave prove beyond doubt that he was crucified on the cross...


Omor ano js understand some people oo

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Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by felixomor: 9:21am On Nov 01, 2017
Mscheww.

The same bible u say is "corrupted" is what you are quoting to prove Jesus wrong.

Confusion!

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Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by Nobody: 11:02am On Nov 01, 2017
*spreads mat*
Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by shittufarukumar(m): 11:50am On Nov 01, 2017
Mod stop deleting my post locking my account oo abi y r u hiding the truth!!!

any body hu wants to c d complete 65 proof shuld send hi to me on whatsapp 09061220741
Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by shittufarukumar(m): 11:59am On Nov 01, 2017
felixomor:
Mscheww.

The same bible u say is "corrupted" is what you are quoting to prove Jesus wrong.

Confusion!
tell ur modrators to stop deleting my post and locking my account or join my what'sapp group
Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by Nobody: 12:10pm On Nov 01, 2017
shittufarukumar:
tell ur modrators to stop deleting my post and locking my account or join my what'sapp group
you need wisdom, do you think it's a joke for someone to use 3years to start and complete his earthly ministry.
Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by shittufarukumar(m): 12:23pm On Nov 01, 2017
Tosinex:
you need wisdom, do you think it's a joke for someone to use 3years to start and complete his earthly ministry.
wisdom on what?
Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by eodavids(m): 2:46pm On Nov 01, 2017
shittufarukumar:
wisdom on what?

Except you repent, you will discover your grave mistake in the centre of the lake of fire

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Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by shittufarukumar(m): 3:53pm On Nov 01, 2017
eodavids:


Except you repent, you will discover your grave mistake in the centre of the lake of fire
repent from what?
Telling the truth?
Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by DaInferno(m): 6:54pm On Nov 01, 2017
God gives you sense... You misuse it!
Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by shittufarukumar(m): 7:05pm On Nov 01, 2017
DaInferno:
God gives you sense... You misuse it!
shed more light to ur statement
Hw have I misused my sense
Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by Originakalokalo(m): 5:22am On Nov 02, 2017
Majority of the Jews did not believe in JESUS.

Because they didn't expect their Messiah to be hung on a cross.

They expected their Messiah to save them.

Go to Jerusalem and find out.

Not just making assumptions that are baseless
Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by shittufarukumar(m): 5:37am On Nov 02, 2017
Originakalokalo:


Majority of the Jews did not believe in JESUS.

Because they didn't expect their Messiah to be hung on a cross.

They expected their Messiah to save them.

Go to Jerusalem and find out.

Not just making assumptions that are baseless
don't conlude because u just saw 15 point how wish the mods did not delete the remaining 40 point u wuld have died of an hearth attak on realising u hv been tricked by Romans and british masters
Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by Nobody: 7:33am On Nov 02, 2017
shittufarukumar:
don't conlude because u just saw 15 point how wish the mods did not delete the remaining 40 point u wuld have died of an hearth attak on realising u hv been tricked by Romans and british masters
bros, i have seen the 65 points on facebook. i can testify that those points are not quite convincing to any sound bible scholar, if by misfortune you debate that with a sound apologist who has the knowledge of the bible and quran. my brother, you will end up destroying some islamic beliefs.
Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by shittufarukumar(m): 7:52am On Nov 02, 2017
chinedubrazil:

bros, i have seen the 65 points on facebook. i can testify that those points are not quite convincing to any sound bible scholar
a Bible scholar who lack common sense
Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by BluntBoy(m): 7:53am On Nov 02, 2017
ifex370:


All the passage's you gave prove beyond doubt that he was crucified on the cross...


Omor ano js understand some people oo

He is not denying that Christ was crucified. He is denying that Christ died on the Cross.
Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by Nobody: 7:57am On Nov 02, 2017
like one of us said earliar, "you need wisdom"

let me start examining your points
1. why crucifixion?
answer: you only talked about why the jews want to kill him but did you even mention whether Jesus Acknowledge the crucifixion or not?
no! even your explanation about the jews wanting to kill is wrong, where is it written that "they want to kill him to prove that he is not GOD" the thing is that you are so obsessed with Christ's Divinity, which you want to kill two birds with a stone.
going down the business, the jews has several reasons why they want to him,
1. he claimed to be the messiah
2. he challenge and counter some jewish doctrine
3. he claimed to be son of God.

Now, i think it would a impartial to ascertain if Jesus agree with the crucifixion.
yes Jesus did acknowledge it and give us the reason why God Allows The Crucifixion (read matthew 16:21-23, matthew 20:28, mark 10:45)
the Crucifixion Is remission of sin, which is God's Plan. it is left for u to choose God's Plan Or Human Plan.
Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by Nobody: 8:15am On Nov 02, 2017
your point 2 and 3 seems to be sub of point 1.
2. who want him to be killed?
answer: GOD ALSO WANT HIM TO BE KILLED read the passages i provided in point one.
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3. who demanded for it?
answer: it was GOD'S PLAN.

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4. one incident and many aspect?
answer: yes, GOD TOOK IT AS AN ACT TO SAVE THE WORLD UNDER THE CURSE(ORIGINAL SIN).
you can even see it in a likewise form as to the case of job.
devil took it as an opportunity for job to curse and disappoint God, job himself took it as a punishment of no reason. and God took it as a test of job's faith.

5. why was jesus hiding?
answer: you can see your insincerity in quoting mark 8:26 and 30 out of context.
chia see lie with desperation altogether. if una hold bible there mak una read mark 8:22-30 And Reason It With Sense.
there is no statement there that justify the crippled lie of jesus hiding.
Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by BluntBoy(m): 8:16am On Nov 02, 2017
UmarIbnShittu:
1.   Why crucifixion?

Jews wanted him to be killed through crucifixion, so they can prove that Jesus is not a beloved of God, rather the curse of God is on him. Jews could have killed him easily as they were in hundreds of thousands in number and very strong. If killing should have been their desire, they could have done it easily. Just like they paid thirty pieces of silver to one of his disciples, if they would have paid him more, he might have done this service too. But they wanted him to be crucified so they can prove that he is not from God, rather he is an imposter and a fabricator. If he was from God, then God will definitely save him. May be that was the reason that Jesus was so reluctant to suffer on the cross.

2.   Who wanted him to be crucified?

Two of Jesus’ disciples commented (in Luke 24:20) as follows:

And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him. (Luke 24:20)

They all say unto him, Let him be crucified. And the Governor said what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying Let him be crucified…. Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children. (Matt 27: 22-25)
3.   Crucifixion was demanded by the Jews

When the chief priests therefore and officers saw him, they cried out, saying, Crucify him, crucify him. (John 19:6)

The Jews answered him (Pilate), We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God. (John 19:7)

=============================

4.  One incident and many aspects?
 Romans took it as punishment of sedition.
The Jews made it as a punishment of blasphemy.
Jesus considers it a killing, when one of his disciples betrayed him.
Christians think a sacrifice presented for our salvation.
Who is right?

5.  Why Jesus was hiding?

That’s why the Jews paid thirty pieces of silver to Judas giving them the necessary information about Jesus.

…Neither go into town, nor tell it to any in the town.  (Mark 8: 26)

And he charged them that they should tell no man of him. ((Mark 8: 30)
6.  Jesus’ prayers and supplications to be saved from crucifixion:

Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder.            (John 26: 36)

And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me.   (John 26: 39)

…. He went away again, and prayed the second time and prayed, saying ……and prayed the third time, saying the same words.   (John 26:42-44)
7.  God always hears his prayers and his prayers were heard

And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I think thee that thou hast heard me. And I knew that thou hearest me always.       (John 11:41-42)

Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared.  (Hebrews 5:7)
8.   An Angel was sent to strengthen Jesus?

And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.  (Luke 22: 43-44)
9.   Pilate delays in judgment

Pilate intentionally delayed in giving his verdict and did not deliver his judgment until and unless he was sure that due to the Sabbath, Jesus would be on the cross for only a few hours. Jesus a thirty-three years young person was on the cross for only few (3-6) hours.

10.  Pilate’s complete favor to Jesus

Pilate was in complete favor of Jesus, considering him innocent, and for his wife’s dream, was trying to save his life. That’s why Pilate wanted to use his special right to free one person, but the Jews did not let him do it.

Pilate said unto them, whom will ye that I release unto you? Barabbas or Jesus…. But the chief Priests and the elders persuaded the multitude that they should ask Barabbas, and destroy Jesus. The Governor answered and said unto them, whether of the twain will ye that I release unto you? They said Barabbas. Matt 27: 17-21)
11.   Pilate’s wife sees a dream to save Jesus

When he sat down on the judgment seat, his wife sent unto him saying, Have thou nothing to do with that just man: for I have suffered many things this day in a dream because of him.”  (Matt 27:19)
Why was this dream was against the purpose of the advent of Jesus, to give his life on the cross? Her dream should have been that crucify him immediately. Let him finish his work. But her dream was against it. Although her dream was so special that it was mentioned in the Bible.

12.  Pilate finds him “Not guilty”

 … Pilate … he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person. (Matt 27:24)


==============================

13.  Earthquake, eclipse & a storm – A sign of God’s disliking & anger

An earthquake, eclipse of Sun and a Storm, all three occurred just after the crucifixion is a clear sign of God’s anger.

Now from sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour. (Matt 27:45)

…the earth did quake, and the rocks rent. (Matt 27: 51)
14.   Pilate marveled

And Pilate marveled if he were already dead. (Mark 15: 44)
When Pilate was informed about the death of Jesus on the cross, he marveled at hearing it. We know that Pilate was the most experienced person in this field; who may have experienced hundreds of crucifixions in his time. That is why; he knew very it well that a 33 years, unmarried young person shouldn’t die in few hours, while the other two thieves (elder than him) were still alive after the crucifixion.

15.   The other two (thieves) next to Jesus were still alive so they broke their legs

Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him. (John 19: 32)

OK, I will make this very concise.

Pilate was in no conspiracy with Jesus or His disciples. He delayed in giving his verdict simply because he was not convinced that Jesus had committed a grievous crime worth a death sentence. Left alone, Pilate would have let Jesus go but he was scared of a Jewish insurrection that might undermine his authority and make Caesar have doubts in his ability to act as governor. The nightmare of every governor, then and now, is insurrection. Insurrections make leaders seem incompetent.

Jesus died quickly on the cross because of the physical abuse he had gone through before crucifixion. He had been battered and rigorously drilled and there was not much strength left in Him.
Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by Nobody: 8:40am On Nov 02, 2017
6. he prayed, yes he prayed, he prayed again, didn't you read his last prayer?
matthew 26:42
once more Jesus went away and prayed, "my Father, IF THIS CUP OF SUFFERING CANNOT BE TAKEN AWAY UNLESS I DRINK IT, YOUR WILL BE DONE"

if you are wise enough you would understand this.

7. yes GOD saved him from death through RESURRECTION that is what hebrew 5:7 is pointing at.
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8. how does this you point 8 proves that he didn't died? ayam not understanding
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9. grin he knew that he was innocent and the implication of letting go scot free means conspiracy against the emperor

10. but at last was he crucified or not undecided
sometimes learn to give valid point.

11. according to her, the dream was against the crucifix nor against saving him. the dream might be a tool to fasten the event to its planned point.

12. who told you that the earthquake and darkness was the sign of disliking and anger of God?
where is
Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by Nobody: 8:50am On Nov 02, 2017
sorry for the skip on point 12.
point 12: so? is it a prove he didn't die?
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14. was it confirmed he died? what is so fishy in the quick death? was it his purpose to die?

15. they didn't break his leg because he is dead grin what is heck is wrong with that?


BUT OP LET ME ASK U, DO YOUR QURAN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT JESUS WAS ON THE CROSS? yes or no
Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by shittufarukumar(m): 9:53am On Nov 02, 2017
chinedubrazil:
sorry for the skip on point 12.
point 12: so? is it a prove he didn't die?
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14. was it confirmed he died? what is so fishy in the quick death? was it his purpose to die?

15. they didn't break his leg because he is dead grin what is heck is wrong with that?


BUT OP LET ME ASK U, DO YOUR QURAN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT JESUS WAS ON THE CROSS? yes or no
no
I'm using ur verses
Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by shittufarukumar(m): 9:57am On Nov 02, 2017
chinedubrazil:
6. he prayed, yes he prayed, he prayed again, didn't you read his last prayer?
matthew 26:42
once more Jesus went away and prayed, "my Father, IF THIS CUP OF SUFFERING CANNOT BE TAKEN AWAY UNLESS I DRINK IT, YOUR WILL BE DONE"

if you are wise enough you would understand this.

7. yes GOD saved him from death through RESURRECTION that is what hebrew 5:7 is pointing at.
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8. how does this you point 8 proves that he didn't died? ayam not understanding
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9. grin he knew that he was innocent and the implication of letting go scot free means conspiracy against the emperor

10. but at last was he crucified or not undecided
sometimes learn to give valid point.

11. according to her, the dream was against the crucifix nor against saving him. the dream might be a tool to fasten the event to its planned point.

12. who told you that the earthquake and darkness was the sign of disliking and anger of God?
where is
since u still insisted he died
why did he have to open the tomb where he was buried because spirit don't need to get in or out
Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by Nobody: 9:58am On Nov 02, 2017
shittufarukumar:
no I'm using ur verses
lol buh the verses differs from your wishful thinking na
Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by Nobody: 10:01am On Nov 02, 2017
shittufarukumar:
since u still insisted he died
why did he have to open the tomb where he was buried because spirit don't need to get in or out
if the tomb happened to be close and he pass through the wall, and eventually appear to the disciples, how could they confirm that he actually risen?
Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by shittufarukumar(m): 10:04am On Nov 02, 2017
[quote author=chinedubrazil post=61994986] ?
most of what u answered made no sense If I were to grade over 60 u will get ➖ minus 60
Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by Nobody: 10:06am On Nov 02, 2017
[quote author=shittufarukumar post=61997291][/quote] i know it wont make sense buh i am waiting for ur rebutal
Re: 65 Biblical Proofs Jesus Did Not Die On The Cross by shittufarukumar(m): 10:06am On Nov 02, 2017
chinedubrazil:

if the tomb happened to be close and he pass through the wall, and eventually appear to the disciples, how could they confirm that he actually risen?
that how it supposed to be for him to pass through the barrier

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