agaugust:

Your blind Ingwe that gets disabled by smoke

zaandrew:

acording to henry only 19 helcopters have been bought by naf

Msauza: I DO NOT SEE THE REASON WHY SOUTH AFRICANS SHOULD WASTE THEIR STRENGTH BY DEBATING WITH CITIZENS OF THE THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. I MEAN YOU ARE NOT ON THE SAME CLASS.

YOU LIVE IN A RICH COUNTRY WHILE NIGERIA REMAINS POOR FOREVER. NO WONDÈR THE WORLD BANK HAVE LISTED NIGERIA AS THE POOREST OF THE POOR OF ALL COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD.

zaandrew:

Southern africa is not Iraq

Henry120:

You are back to distorting my comments.

I said we are aware of the identity of the first batch of 19 helicopters we are to receive. We do not at this point know whether this order of 40 helicopters is inclusive of the 19 or if they are a totally different order.

Don't deliberately distort it.

MikeZA: This is Africa.

agaugust:

SANDF has ZERO force projection beyond your local SADC region

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agaugust:


This is Africa too, West Africa...

zaandrew:




You gave a list of all the helcopters bought by the nigerian fedral goverment.

agaugust:


This is Africa too, West Africa...

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CraigB:
To your point --->
http://reformeronline.com/nigerian-firms-others-to-import-coal-from-south-africa-for-power-generation/
RE: NIGERIAN FIRMS, OTHERS TO IMPORT COAL FROM SOUTH AFRICA FOR POWER GENERATION
We find it disturbing and sad that a country like Nigeria, despite being blessed and endowed with so much mineral resources like natural gas and coal, that holds so much economic potential; is still amongst the poorest countries in the world, to the extent that we have practically become a nation that virtually imports everything to satisfy domestic demands.
Apart from the fact that Nigeria has not been able to judiciously utilize its abundant natural gas and coal resources for the benefit of its citizenry and the Nigerian economy, we have become a nation that prefers to import these same natural resources from other countries rather than harness and develop what we abundantly have here.
There are no words to best describe the anomaly when it was recently reported that some industrialists and electricity generating companies have started initiating moves to import coal from South Africa, as a proactive measure against the lingering power supply crisis in the country.
According to reports, this is to enable them to switch over to coal-powered turbines for their respective operators. The move was said to have been informed by the frustrations being experienced by the operators in getting gas to fuel their respective power plants. Leading the coal-import initiative from South Africa is Dangote Cement Plc, which has already placed an initial order of 30,000 tonnes of the commodity from the continent’s second largest economy. Already, the company has slated $250 million for power generating conversion , which would involve establishment of three plants at Dangote Cement’s facilities at Obajana in Kogi State; Gboko in Benue State; and Ibeshe in Ogun State. Also, “some Power Generating Companies (GENCOS) have already started considering converting their plants to coal-fired turbines, with unabated crisis in securing gas to power their respective facilities. Mostly affected by the gas paucity crisis are the GENCO that are located inland, which have not got the close proximity advantage to the gas supplying facilities, which are located in the Niger Delta region”, the report noted.
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It's a brain issue.

MikeZA: So? You can see even a 4X4 is moving through the mud.

agaugust:

SANDF has ZERO force projection beyond your local SADC region

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Msauza:


NIGERIA WILL REMAIN SLAVE TO SOUTH AFRICA FOREVER, NO WONDER THEY WOULD ALWAYS WANT TO COMPARE THEMSELVES TO SA IN EVERYTHING. SA IS INDEED THEIR YARDSTICK.

agaugust:

You are more blind than a street begger, let me help you....

PHOTO : THIS IS WHAT 99% OF SOUTH AFRICAN ARMY WILL BECOME IN MANY PARTS OF AFRICA AND ASIA



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Henry120:

All the helicopters purchased in 2013. I did not include 2014 orders.

MikeZA: Question is: Does Nigeria? Cause no country in sub saharan Africa has the capability to deploy and sustain forces,such as the size deployed by France in and around Mali.

agaugust:

You are more blind than a street begger, let me help you....

PHOTO : THIS IS WHAT 99% OF SOUTH AFRICAN ARMY WILL BECOME IN MANY PARTS OF AFRICA AND ASIA



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zaandrew:

Countries the sandf as sent ground forces for operstional purposes included

CAR not sadc
Sudan not sadc
Libya not sadc
And one west african country, forgot the name.

agaugust:

Nigeria deployed more than France.

Nigeria deployed 15,000 soldiers, with tanks, APCs, artillery, trucks, AAA guns, Frigates, LPD ship, corvettes, Alpha jets, C-130 Hercules, etc all 2,000 km away from Lagos, far up to Liberia/Sierra Leone and sustained them for 10 years without foreign help, because we were under international arms embargo.

That is world class force projection....Nigeria.....the strongest military in Africa second only to Egypt.

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Msauza:

What about this?

agaugust:

You deploy only 4x4 vehicles for peace keeping only, and you carefully select where you drive to.

C.A.R. Bangui is a city with tarred roads, not an all terrain rough war zone
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zaandrew:

Thanks to NATO and you could not adquitly support it. And 2000km. The SADF did for years supporting there forces in northen angola from sa

agaugust:

That's like a tank dug in for defensive position. Armies do that a lot. That photo is not a road path.

You see the road in the video below, 99% of SANDF will be fully stuck in the mud. Soweto army is weak


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPGUPPLTYdA

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agaugust:

That's like a tank dug in for defensive position. Armies do that a lot. That photo is not a road path.

You see the road in the video below, 99% of SANDF will be fully stuck in the mud. Soweto army is weak


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPGUPPLTYdA

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zaandrew:

Sorry if I don't care. You woefully short of helcopters and hinds are not what you need nor are heavy us choppers. You need meduime lift. And if your budget does not increas you can buy 100 choppers and it will not change the situstion on the ground.

agaugust:

NATO ? They gave us zero help, they gave us 100% arms embargo.

Angola was fully accessible to SADF by dry land all the way. Nigeria had to fly air and sail ocean into a swamp and thick jungle equatorial rain forest of Africa.

South Africa dare not try that, you will get stuck till kingdom come

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zaandrew:

No it is not. You can see it is mud.

agaugust:
That's like a tank dug in for defensive position. Armies do that a lot. That photo is not a road path.
You see the road in the video below, 99% of SANDF will be fully stuck in the mud. Soweto army is weak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPGUPPLTYdA
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agaugust:

Nigeria deployed more than France.

Nigeria deployed 15,000 soldiers, with tanks, APCs, artillery, trucks, AAA guns, Frigates, LPD ship, corvettes, Alpha jets, C-130 Hercules, etc all 2,000 km away from Lagos, far up to Liberia/Sierra Leone and sustained them for 10 years without foreign help, because we were under international arms embargo.

That is world class force projection....Nigeria.....the strongest military in Africa second only to Egypt.

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Henry120:

Not my problem if you want to continue to wallow in your self-imposed ignorance.

Ignorance is bliss.

zaandrew:

No it is not. You can see it is mud.

Looks no worse than the mud pan set up at the AAD shows.