MikeZA: So?...

...You eat the humble pie

MikeZA: With magical horses,I see.

You should start by telling us what the french did, that we did not do?

agaugust:

...You eat the humble pie

LOL

agaugust:

...You eat the humble pie

I doubt you even know where Angola is on the map. Southern Angola forests are thicker than Sambisa.

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Size According To Limited Funds......

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PHOTO : SOUTH AFRICAN ARMY'S NEW TANKS, SIZE IS ACCORDING TO LIMITED FUNDS


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Henry120:

You should start by telling us what the french did, that we did not do?

. You less than 8 transport planes. So shut up. You can't transport. 1. Vehicles(infantry fighting,vehicles,trucks,armoured fighting vehicles,trucks,reccon vehicles etc) 2. Fly in engineers. 3. Deploy more than 5 fighter jets 6. Tanker aircraft. 7. Attack helicopters. 8. Special forces 10. Medics and more. Nor can you supply such force by air.

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South Africa hasn't ordered any tanks. Focus is on getting new trucks and APCs.

Henry120:

You should start by telling us what the french did, that we did not do?

Fly Rafeals to Chad.

MikeZA: Fly Rafeals to Chad.

We flew Alpha jets to Niger, our FOB, from where we carried out missions in mali.


I'll respond to the rest tomorrow.

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The only tenders out are for small things like 1. Armour piercing bullets. 2. Laser designators 3. Laser range finders 4.Rifle accessories.

South Africa has this month alone hosted defence ministers and their generals from two different nations,if it was Nigeria some chaps will be beating their cheats and making silly claims.

So let's say if Nigeria were to try and place an offer to buy a couple of Apaches would it be aloud?

And when are y'all getting the new jets, I'm looking forward to seeing what you guys are going to buy

Helghast: So let's say if Nigeria were to try and place an offer to buy a couple of Apaches would it be aloud?

And when are y'all getting the new jets, I'm looking forward to seeing what you guys are going to buy

Aloud by who? There is no sacstion on nigeria so yeah you could by them. Qustion is
A: can you afford them
B: does any body one to sell them to you



No one knows.

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[size=13pt]Nigerian army sweeps Doron Baga Town...Boko Haram Fighters Flee Into Chad

Entire Boko Haram Base Flushed Down The Toilet

http://defenceinfo.mil.ng/update-on-doron-baga-troops-clear-terrorists-camps-in-counter-offensive/[/size]

Israeli army will soon be in Nigeria to be trained by us in COIN warfare. Nigeria is the best COIN army in the world now !
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agaugust:
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[size=13pt]Nigerian army sweeps Doron Baga Town...Boko Haram Fighters Flee Into Chad

Entire Boko Haram Base Flushed Down The Toilet

http://defenceinfo.mil.ng/update-on-doron-baga-troops-clear-terrorists-camps-in-counter-offensive/[/size]

Israeli army will soon be in Nigeria to be trained by us in COIN warfare. Nigeria is the best COIN army in the world now !
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When nigeria attacks BH is able to flee when chad attacks they rescue 100 kidnaped nigerians.

Maybe nigeria shoud go and train in chad, because letting the insurgets escape your attack means you waisting your own time.

zaandrew:

When nigeria attacks BH is able to flee when chad attacks they rescue 100 kidnaped nigerians.

Maybe nigeria shoud go and train in chad, because letting the insurgets escape your attack means you waisting your own time.

No, dude, you got it all wrong.

Bokos kidnapped Nigerian civilians close to lake Chad border line and immediately used speed boats to carry them across lake water border into Chad. On landing in Chad, they unluckily fell into the hands of well armed and mobile Chadian army special COIN units.

Boko was caught immobile without vehicles, caught by surprise, out-numbered by Chadian soldiers and defeated.

Did your Soweto military academy teach you to study a battle before you comment? No !

Intelligence is a luxury most South Africans cannot afford

http://www.punchng.com/news/soldiers-free-boko-haram-captives/

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agaugust:

No, dude, you got it all wrong.

Bokos kidnapped Nigerian civilians close to lake Chad border line and immediately used speed boats to carry them across lake water border into Chad. On landing in Chad, they unluckily fell into the hands of well armed and mobile Chadian army special COIN units.

Boko was caught immobile without vehicles, caught by surprise, out-numbered by Chadian soldiers and defeated.

Did your Soweto military academy teach you to study a battle before you comment? No !

Intelligence is a luxury most South Africans cannot afford

http://www.punchng.com/news/soldiers-free-boko-haram-captives/

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Facts remain. BH attacked a nigerian vilage, rounded up 100 people and loaded them on trucks, drove them out of town, used boats to cross in to chad. At no point did nigeria send forves to stop them.

Points remain. Nigeria atcks BH. BH gets away, hapens all the time. Yoy keep letting them escap. BH atacks and rescues 100 hostages.

zaandrew:

Facts remain. BH attacked a nigerian vilage, rounded up 100 people and loaded them on trucks, drove them out of town, used boats to cross in to chad. At no point did nigeria send forves to stop them.

Points remain. Nigeria atcks BH. BH gets away, hapens all the time.

Fact remains, poachers cut off Rhino horns inside South Africa, transport them past your SANDF men and helicopters plus rangers on patrol and guard duty, cross border into Zimbabwe and sell your Rhino horns without South Africa sending army, air force, or rangers to stop them.

Point remains Poachers get away, happens all the time
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zaandrew:

Facts remain. BH attacked a nigerian vilage, rounded up 100 people and loaded them on trucks, drove them out of town, used boats to cross in to chad. At no point did nigeria send forves to stop them.

Points remain. Nigeria atcks BH. BH gets away, hapens all the time. Yoy keep letting them escap. BH atacks and rescues 100 hostages.

Well said.

agaugust:

Fact remains, poachers cut off Rhino horns inside South Africa, transport them past your SANDF men and helicopters plus rangers on patrol and guard duty, cross border into Zimbabwe and sell your Rhino horns without South Africa sending army, air force, or rangers to stop them.

Point remains Poachers get away, happens all the time
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Yep. Difrince is your averge paching party is 3 maybe 4 guys who get in and out. They all so operating in eastern kruger park. There is nothing there no roads no nothing. We all so have under 1000 to patrol the area the size of israle. And we have been catching poachers but it is a hard battel. Rhino horn is worth more than gold so it is not hard for the poaching sydcits to hire more guns.

All so SA started hot puisuit not long ago. And zimbawe is the wrong country.


Any case if SA can get the law preventing legal horn sale passed we can flood the market in china and veitnam. Supply and demand will result in price dropping. Thus makeing poaching less profitbi.

But the key point is size BH run around in big numbers attacking populated areas with vechlies. Poachers are in small numbers, avoid people and move on foot. Witch is the one easyer to find?

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zaandrew:


Yep. Difrince is your averge paching party is 3 maybe 4 guys who get in and out. They all so operating in eastern kruger park. There is nothing there no roads no nothing. We all so have under 1000 to patrol the area the size of israle. And we have been catching poachers but it is a hard battel. Rhino horn is worth more than gold so it is not hard for the poaching sydcits to hire more guns.

All so SA started hot puisuit not long ago. And zimbawe is the wrong country.


Any case if SA can get the law preventing legal horn sale passed we can flood the market in china and veitnam. Supply and demand will result in price dropping. Thus makeing poaching less profitbi.

But the key point is size BH run around in big numbers attacking populated areas with vechlies. Poachers are in small numbers, avoid people and move on foot. Witch is the one easyer to find?

Which one is easier? Go ask mighty Israeli military how easy it was to find the real Hamas terrorists in Gaza.

We have 30,000 troops spread over land mass of North East Nigeria bigger than the whole of Great Britain.

We have Boko Haram that spies on any town or any military base dressed as women covered head to toe in Islamic dress called hijab, if you ever seen one hijab full regalia before.

How do you track them? They are civilians in day time and Boko haram at night.

Spread 30,000 men over Britain and ask them to police every street and see the result you get.

I don't care what countries your Kruger park poachers escape to, they keep doing it again and again.

They invade your country from Mozambique and you can do NOTHING about it.

South Africa deployed your 'highly photographed' Special Forces military with helicopters in support, yet animal hunters overrun South Africa, and your Gripen jet nation of submarines has to remove all Rhinos from their habitat because you are defeated by the Poachers.

"We've got one Intelligence Tactical Regiment from Potchefstroom, which specialises in intelligence gathering. Special Forces and 21 Battallion, both in the park and on the borders," says Colonel Bobelo. The ground troops are supported by helicopters for a speedy chase of poachers. "The helicopters contribute a lot in terms of identifying areas where poachers are operating," he adds. Colonel Says that it became increasingly important to rope in the army when syndicates began using helicopters, night vision equipment and high-powered rifles in their expedition. The army is part of the National Joint Operational and Intelligence Structure."

SANDF special forces and 21 Battalion with air force support got defeated in ANC homeland republic...by bush animal hunters
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agaugust:

Fact remains, poachers cut off Rhino horns inside South Africa, transport them past your SANDF men and helicopters plus rangers on patrol and guard duty, cross border into Zimbabwe and sell your Rhino horns without South Africa sending army, air force, or rangers to stop them.

Point remains Poachers get away, happens all the time
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Is good that is Rhinos (animals) not human as in the case in Nigeria.

Msauza:

Is good that is Rhinos (animals) not human as in the case in Nigeria.

If Rhinos have no value to SA, why do you send elite special forces and air force of SANDF to get k.illed trying to save animals ?

agaugust:
If Rhinos have no value to SA, why do you send elite special forces and air force of SANDF to get k.illed trying to save animals ?

The fact is they are not human and they are not the area of defence but conservation.

Msauza:

The fact is they are not human and they are not the area of defence but conservation.

Mozambique's hunters are invading your over-rated country and your 'famous' special forces bush war experts cannot stop them in your own home land bush. End of discussion. Gbam !

Next topic please..

agaugust:
Mozambique's hunters are invading your over-rated country and your 'famous' special forces bush war experts cannot stop them in your own home land bush. End of discussion. Gbam !
Next topic please..

I have said and I still say that Rhinos are not the area of responsibility of defence. Touch our beautiful people and you will see the sole of our shoes

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[size=13pt]Nigerian army sweeps Doron Baga Town...Boko Haram Fighters Flee Into Chad

Entire Boko Haram Base Flushed Down The Toilet

http://defenceinfo.mil.ng/update-on-doron-baga-troops-clear-terrorists-camps-in-counter-offensive/[/size]
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Israeli army will soon be in Nigeria to be trained by us in COIN warfare. Nigeria is the best COIN army in the world now !
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IMAGINE ISRAEL BEING TRAINED BY SUCH A POORLY EQUIPPED ARMY IN THE WORLD.

WE HAVE NEVER FORMED OUR DEFENCE FORCE TO LOOK AFTER RHINOS. WE CAN ONLY ADVICE WILD RANGERS ABOUT SECURITY.

agaugust:

You have none in South Africa.

Nigeria is an all terrain war zone.

Mangrove swamp.

Rivers and lakes.

Ocean.

Rocks and mountains.

Bog land, mud land.

Savannah bush.

Rain forest jungle

Sahel desert.

Reason why we built a better army than South Africa's dry land only SANDF

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We have all of those terrain types.

agaugust:

We see ISIS heading for Baghadad until USNAF/USMC F-18 jets and Drones stopped them.

We see Israeli army and air force pull out of Gaza without victory.

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We see Israeli army and air force pull out of Gaza without victory.

They met all of their objectives and smashed the christ out of Hamas

All known tunnels, 32 in total, have now been destroyed. Following the completion of the mission, all ground troops have been withdrawn from Gaza and redeployed to defensive positions in the vicinity. The IDF has, thus far, struck over 4,700 terror targets in Gaza, including 1,678 rocket-launching facilities, 191 weapons facilities, and 977 command centres, and eliminated over 750 terrorist combatants.
http://theconversation.com/problems-ahead-for-israel-after-pyrrhic-victory-in-gaza-30575

It was a costly victory, but it was a VICTORY - something Nigeria has yet to achieve

We have not seen Nigerian army stop k.illing Bokos 24/7

We have also seen BH capture Nigerian cities, Nigerian troops run away and mutiny and Nigeria now tops the world terrorism list.

By comparison, Isreal lost only 4 civilians during the campaign.

Nigeria is being defeated by BH as we speak.

agaugust:


Iraq fought Iran. Iraq fought USA/NATO/UN/The whole world. Iraq will roast South Africa.

Hamas is still firing r.ockets into Israeli cities after the Israeli army withdrew from Gaza. Mission failed.

Welcome to the world of COIN warfare !

Iraq fought Iran.

And lost

Iraq fought USA/NATO/UN/The whole world.

and lost... twice.


Iraq will roast South Africa.

They cannot even roast ISIS

Iraq is the worst military in a region of sh1t military

But, by comparison, Iraq is still better armed than Nigeria

Hamas is still firing r.ockets into Israeli cities after the Israeli army withdrew from Gaza. Mission failed.

yeah, 5 rockets... compared to the thousands they were launching before.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/08/13/gaza-militants-fire-rocket-into-israel-two-hours-before-end-of-ceasefire-israeli-police-allege/

Welcome to the world of COIN warfare

We have successful COIN operations under our belt. You dont.