iterator24:
www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/t72tank.htm
that's its specs

Thanks for confirming

T-72 launches ATGM's via the gun barrel

agaugust:


Yes, and your source proves it all.

A snorkel is only fitted onT-72 for deep water swimming and its a vertical tube standing up straight on the left side of the main gun turret.

The anti-tank guided missile on the Nigerian tank is a horizontal tube lying down flat at the far back of the tank.

You know what's butt hurting the Soweto guys? SANDF Olifant tanks have NO anti tank missile and a weaker 105mm gun.

Nigerian army T-72 tanks have anti-tank guided missile and more deadly 125mm gun.

We will ride unstoppable into Pretoria government building and take over South Africa o !
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With three round natures (APFSDS-T, HEAT-MP, ATGMs) in the autoloader vs four, more antitank rounds would available for the higher rate of fire.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/t72tank.htm

ATGM's are launched from the main gun

A telescoping snorkel is stored on the rear of the turret - ready to deploy for fording

Stop wasting our time

Henry120:


Gripens did not fly to anywhere to recapture anywhere. Stop telling lies to yourself.

FOMAC forces were already stationed in bangui, and the SANDF had half a battalion stationed in bangui.

If you didn't have cowards running your defence ministry, your DHQ re-strategised and launched a counter attack.

Instead your soldiers chose to stay home in soweto like the cowards they are.

MI-35 helicopters have been engaging targets for eons, nothing new.

FOMAC would not allow us to recapture Bangui

They are the cowards not us

And 200 men is not half a battalion

Henry120:


The SU-30 has shown it is the world's most manoeuvrable jet, it sure would conduct those jaw dropping manoeuvres in actual combat.

No it would not, you asshat

Listen to what we are telling you

Henry120:


SAAF pilots aren't well trained, the numbers are there for everyone to see.


The call came in, the French and Fomac responded. Don't be delusional, the SANDF hide away like the cowards they are.

Do you really want to call us cowards?

Considering the vast ammounts of incidents your men have run away

iterator24:
dummy, the tank has specifications, read it and stop embarrassing yourself and saffers in general

Maybe you should read it yourself atgms are fired from the main gun

iterator24:
back it up with a source dimwit, I provided you one. .

So have i

Henry120:
New top 10 African militaries ranking.

The SANDF is sure one to watch, with 3 C-130's for 75,000 personnel and 9 pilots for 26 jets, even the somalis can take on them.

Trolling

patches689:


With three round natures (APFSDS-T, HEAT-MP, ATGMs) in the autoloader vs four, more antitank rounds would available for the higher rate of fire.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/t72tank.htm

ATGM's are launched from the main gun

A telescoping snorkel is stored on the rear of the turret - ready to deploy for fording

Stop wasting our time

There are many modernizations of T-72 tanks in many versions specially configured for modern day customers, you are quoting only the old basic versions of T-72.

Now Russia/East bloc is mounting ATGM on so many different armoured vehicles for in modern times.
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patches689:


No augustus' you clown, read the source, it says that snorkels are stored on the rear stowage binns on the turret. I cant beleive you are still trying to argue with me, when the information is right there infornt of your face. Shows you are delusional

It is a telecsopimg tube that is stored horizontally on the rear of the turret, its turned vertical and extened when they want to ford a river

Dont you think it would be a bad idea for tanks to drive around with a 20ft tube sticking into the air?

Its a snorkel

Sorry to burst your bubble

Sorry you actually busted your own bubble.

You just admitted what I said, the snorkel is long, about 20 feet, the ATGM missile tube is less than that length, its only about 5 feet long !

PHOTO 1 : T-72 TANK WITH SNORKEL IN WATER ERECTED FOR USE
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patches689:



Snorkel is a telecsopimg tube that is stored horizontally on the rear of the turret, its turned vertical and extened when they want to ford a river

Dont you think it would be a bad idea for tanks to drive around with a 20ft tube sticking into the air?

Its a snorkel

Sorry to burst your bubble

Sorry you actually busted your own bubble.

You just admitted what I said, the snorkel is long, about 20 feet, the ATGM missile tube is less than that length, its only about 5 feet long !

PHOTO 2 : T-72 TANK WITH ATGM CROSSING RIVER, THE TUBE IS NOT USED AS A SNORKEL BECAUSE IT IS A MISSILE LAUNCHER !
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FighterPilot:


Snorkel

You don't know the length and shape of a snorkel tube compared to an ATGM missile launcher.

PHOTO 3 : IS THIS ONE A SNORKEL TOO ?
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PHOTO 4 : RUSSIAN ATGM AND ITS BOX

PHOTO 5 : NIGERIAN T-72 ATGM AND IT'S BOX

PHOTO 6 : RUSSIAN KORNET ATGM AND IT'S BOX, NOT A WATER SNORKEL !

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agaugust:


Sorry you actually busted your own bubble.

You just admitted what I said, the snorkel is long, about 20 feet, the ATGM missile tube is less than that length, its only about 5 feet long !

PHOTO 1 : T-72 TANK WITH SNORKEL IN WATER ERECTED FOR USE
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So you dont know what the word telescoping means?

agaugust:


Sorry you actually busted your own bubble.

You just admitted what I said, the snorkel is long, about 20 feet, the ATGM missile tube is less than that length, its only about 5 feet long !

PHOTO 2 : T-72 TANK WITH ATGM CROSSING RIVER, THE TUBE IS NOT USED AS A SNORKEL BECAUSE IT IS A MISSILE LAUNCHER !
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Snorkel not used because they know the depth of the river and that they dont need it

agaugust:


There are many modernizations of T-72 tanks in many versions specially configured for modern day customers, you are quoting only the old basic versions of T-72.

Now Russia/East bloc is mounting ATGM on so many different armoured vehicles for in modern times.
.

Dude - a couple posts ago you said that source was conclusive proof of what you are saying. Now its outdated info because it no longer suits you?

Stop wasting our time with this drivel

Its a snorkel end of story

agaugust:
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PHOTO 4 : RUSSIAN ATGM AND ITS BOX

PHOTO 5 : NIGERIAN T-72 ATGM AND IT'S BOX

PHOTO 6 : RUSSIAN KORNET ATGM AND IT'S BOX, NOT A WATER SNORKEL !

.[/size]

No

That is a telescoping snorkel attached to a stowage bin

No ammount of your protests will prove otherwise -we deal in facts here not opinion

agaugust:


There are many modernizations of T-72 tanks in many versions specially configured for modern day customers, you are quoting only the old basic versions of T-72.

Now Russia/East bloc is mounting ATGM on so many different armoured vehicles for in modern times.
.

Why would they mount a single shot atgm on a vehical that can fire atgms allready?

agaugust:
[size=14pt]
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PHOTO 4 : RUSSIAN ATGM AND ITS BOX

PHOTO 5 : NIGERIAN T-72 ATGM AND IT'S BOX

PHOTO 6 : RUSSIAN KORNET ATGM AND IT'S BOX, NOT A WATER SNORKEL !

.[/size]

You are a bloody stupiddd, you don't know the difference between snorkel and launcher.

@agagua will use a snorkel to fire ATGMs. Bwahahaha… A launcher is always attached firmly to a guidance system. Look at agaugust's fallacious missile launcher which is completely detached to a guide. I wonder what kind of a launcher is that which will mislead the missile away from the target.

MikeCZAR:
They flew to CAR.

If a call to invade and destroy seleka came, SA would've went in with fighters, attack helicopters and more.

Nigerian pilots aren't well trained.

but they (SANDF) wasn't,didn't and haven't been able to do so.

agaugust:


Sorry you actually busted your own bubble.

You just admitted what I said, the snorkel is long, about 20 feet, the ATGM missile tube is less than that length, its only about 5 feet long !

PHOTO 1 : T-72 TANK WITH SNORKEL IN WATER ERECTED FOR USE
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Bwahahahaha… Don't you know that snorkels can fold back like an umbrella or antenna of radio.

Centrifude:
*Unrelated*
Are any of you guys following what's going on in North Korea right now?

Their Internet has been offline for a while now, Americans don't mess around, this is the highest form of retaliation its crazy.

Their internet was only offline for 2hours. Pretty insignificant, besides they use an intranet in North-Korea. I don't see what the Americans and CNN are making a fuss about this. Have they ever chatted up a N.K citizen in North-Korea over the internet?

The Americans are really stup1d, why make a movie about assassinating the President of an independent Nation, why even do this using real I.Ds.

Besides does N.K even depend on the U.S for their internet....... NO.

Can the U.S shutdown the internet connection in North-Korea without it affecting China?

I'm of the opinion the Americans had nothing to do with the breakdown of internet service in North-Korea.

Henry120:

Their internet was only offline for 2hours. Pretty insignificant, besides they use an intranet in North-Korea. I don't see what the Americans and CNN are making a fuss about this. Have they ever chatted up a N.K citizen in North-Korea over the internet?

The Americans are really stup1d, why make a movie about assassinating the President of an independent Nation, using real I.D's, instead of fictitious names.

Besides does N.K even depend on the U.S for their internet....... NO.

Can the U.S shutdown the internet connection in North-Korea without it affecting China?

I'm of the opinion the Americans had nothing to do with the breakdown of internet service in North-Korea.

You are an absolute clown

North Korean internet infrastructure is so simplistic that based Anonymous could have taken them down - and they are a decentralized group of activists

A centralized multi million dollar operation like the Americans and Europeans have could throw NK back into the stone age

Just look what they did with Iran

patches689:


You are an absolute clown

North Korean internet infrastructure is so simplistic that based Anonymous could have taken them down - and they are a decentralized group of activists

A centralized multi million dollar operation like the Americans and Europeans have could throw NK back into the stone age

Just look what they did with Iran

You bloody dummy, how do you take down the internet in North-Korea without it affecting China?

It is impossible to attack North-Korea without it affecting China. There is no proof the shutdown has anything to do with the Americans.

Iran and North Korea do not use the same infrastructure, the DPRK is dependent on china.

Would the chinese allow the americans shutdown the internet in N.K......... NO!!

So how did the supposed Americans achieve this feat that lasted for only 2hours? I know you south-africans are western a$s lickers, but you should also use your brains.

Patchesagain:


Trolling

The truth about the SANDF is always trolling to you. Quite typical and very predictable.

Patchesagain:


Do you really want to call us cowards?

Considering the vast ammounts of incidents your men have run away

Yes you are.

And how has the Nigerian army dealt with cases of desertion?......... decisively and with impeccable discipline.

The Army is still right there in the thick of the action, they did not leave, and have never left a war in it's long military rich history.

Patchesagain:


No it would not, you asshat

Listen to what we are telling you

Clown, you haven't proven anything. You making a series of infertile claims haven't made the SU-30 any less manoeuvrable or second fiddle to the F-15E.

Infact it is still the world's most manoeuvrable fighter and a better aircraft to the F-15E.

patches689:


FOMAC would not allow us to recapture Bangui

They are the cowards not us

And 200 men is not half a battalion

No, you guys are a bunch of cowards, not FOMAC. You have 400+ men in the CAR.

FighterPilot:


Again- The parliament takes the decision and the military. bosses obey. So, what do you want chief? Or does it not work like that in Nigeria? Your military chiefs undermine and disobey the parliament.
The government which contracted SANDF to train
their troops was no more. SANDF continued stay
was no more/longer needed. It is only in Nigeria where highest orders are being defied. No wonder their soldiers are being sentenced to death on large numbers.

Do you know what retribution is?

Cowards.

Henry120:


You bloody dummy, how do you take down the internet in North-Korea without it affecting China?

It is impossible to attack North-Korea without it affecting China. There is no proof the shutdown has anything to do with the Americans.

Iran and North Korea do not use the same infrastructure, the DPRK is dependent on china.

Would the chinese allow the americans shutdown the internet in N.K......... NO!!

So how did the supposed Americans achieve this feat that lasted for only 2hours? I know you south-africans are western a$s lickers, but you should also use your brains.

Your entire argument relies in the statement that NK and chinese internet is so intertwined that an attack on the north would affect china

Yet you provide no proof

It was a blatant DDoS attack on NK

Its either Anonymous or the Americans

Especially since the Norks launched another cyber attack - this time against SK

Henry120:


The truth about the SANDF is always trolling to you. Quite typical and very predictable.

Responds to accusations of trolling with more trolling

Thanks for underlining my point