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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:46am On Mar 07, 2016
Patchesagain:


I let you call me Patrick because I found it quite funny how you guys claimed to have discovered my identity...a and yet were completely wrong!!

If you can say that you and the Augustine on beegeagles blog are not the same. Then I and Croat are definitly not the same - confirmed by Henry and members of the other forum

Your obsession with me is borderline homosexual
?
NaijaPikingidi used 'snooper intel tools' to 'hack' out your real name as Patrick, and when he called you Patrick you answered him immediately saying "Yes, you know my name!".

Your real name is Patrick not Paul. Too late to change it, you criminal.

There is no Augustine on any Nigerian forum or blog claiming falsely to be an European and denying Nigerian citizenship, what we have is a Patches from South Africa who is an identity thief claiming to be a Croatian white man and denying South African citizenship of his own homeland. Shame on you for denying your fatherland in public. Shame on you fraudster !

Obsession? No ! I am a crime burster, bursting your fraud bubble. Look dude, in my office are retired USA military, FBI, and CIA guys.....I tap knowledge from them. You cannot fool me, that's why I used personality trait identification technique to detect that Patches and Croat have 100% same writing format, thinking pattern, and cognitive emotions.....that is a CIA technique used to detect people they are targeting or spying on in the espionage world.

Henry confirmed nothing, does he have your IP address or saw your international passport to confirm your true citizenship? He confirmed nothing, he cannot prove anything. He merely wanted peace on the photo thread......and hey on the photo thread africaken said he believes you are a South African marketer working for Denel......LOL....people know Croat = Patches
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:10am On Mar 07, 2016
[size=13pt]SANDF Ratel IFV cannot run....or SANDF drivers cannot drive even at home without enemy pursuing them gringrin[/size]

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DonBobes(m): 8:01am On Mar 07, 2016
agaugust:
[size=13pt]SANDF Ratel IFV cannot run....or SANDF drivers cannot drive even at home without enemy pursuing them gringrin[/size]

lwkm
kai, nawa 4 u o! Wher u go bring ds pix again.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 8:44am On Mar 07, 2016
THE WORD ACCIDENTS MEANS UNINTENTIONAL OCCURRANCE AND DOES HAPPEN ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. EVEN ADVANCE COUNTRIES WITH SOPHISTICATED MILITARY TRAINING AND HARDWARE. SEE BELOW THE TESTIMONY:

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 8:46am On Mar 07, 2016
HERE NIGERIA MILITARY DOES HAVE MISHAPS WITH BOTH OUTDATED ARTILLERY AND CRASHED HELICOPTER

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 8:58am On Mar 07, 2016
NIGERIA LIKE CALLING CATTLE BLACK WHEN INFACT HAVE WORST TRIBALISM. XENOPHOBIA IS SOUTH AFRICA IS NOT WORST LIKE WHAT NIGERIA DID TO GHANA IN 1983. SEE PHOTOS OF BARBARISM AT ITS WORST: Clash between Hausa and Yorubas turns bloody in Mile 12, Lagos

http://drumbeatnews.com/photos-clash-between-hausa-and-yorubas-turns-bloody-in-mile-12-lagos/

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:03am On Mar 07, 2016
Contrary to the belief by most people that the Nigerian Army are being paid heavily, the opposite is the case as the Nigerian Army salary structure reveals that these men who risk their lives to defend the sovereignty of Nigeria go home with stipends.

A Nigerian soldier is being paid according to his or her rank and years of service. The list below is a report seen as of December 2015.
Salary Structure of the Nigerian
Army
Private Soldier earns about N48-49,000
Lance Corporal earns about N54-55,
Corporal earns N58,000
Sergeant earns N63,000
Staff Sergeant earns N68,000
Warrant Officer earns N80,000
Master Warrant Officer earns N90,000

Nigerian Army Salary Structure for
Commissioned Officers
Second Lieutenant- N120,000
Lieutenant- N180,000
Captain- N220,000
Major- N300,000
Lt. Colonel- N350,000
Colonel- N550,000
Brigadier General- N750,000
Major General- N950,000
Lt. General- N1 million
General- N1.5 million
Those are the salary of Nigerian soldiers.
What is your take on the Nigerian Army
Salary?..
www.nigerianinfopedia.com/nigerian-army-salary-structure-much-nigerian-soldier-salary/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:28am On Mar 07, 2016
NIGERIAN UAV CRASHES:

As the brutal Boko Haram insurgency has entered its 7th year in Nigeria, the relationship between the government and China has deepened. In many ways it is a match of needs. The Nigerian military has a pressing need for counter-insurgency (COIN) equipment, such as drones, MRAP vehicles and smart bombs (many of which the US has been unwilling to provide the government due to human rights concerns). China is seeking to be a first tier exporter of such modern military systems as well as has a massive domestic demand for oil.

http://www.popsci.com/did-armed-chinese-made-drone-just-crash-nigeria

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:32am On Mar 07, 2016
NO INDIGENOUS NIGERIAN DRONE IN ACTION: DRONE IN ACTION FOREIGN.......LOCAL PRODUCE IS INFACT IS AEROSTAR

Nigeria joins a dubious club of the United States, the United Kingdom, Israel, Pakistan, and Iraq who have all used armed drones in modern war.
Much of Nigeria's drone arsenal are Israeli-made Aerostar UAVs, which are unarmed. Nigeria also has its own, locally-made drones that strongly resemble these Aerostars, and are likely also only surveillance tools. Instead, for the strike it looks like the drone was a Chinese CH-3.


The CH-3 is an armed adaption of earlier Chinese reconnaissance drones, and has been in Nigeria's inventory since at least 2014. In the video released of the attack, there's a large blast, and the Nigerian Air Force claims they hit a logistics base belonging to Boko Haram, possibly an ammunition storehouse. Nigeria, like Iraq, appears to buy their armed drones from China.

http://www.popsci.com.au/robots/drones/watch-nigerias-first-confirmed-drone-strike-against-boko-haram,414698
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:38am On Mar 07, 2016
@AUGUSTUS NO INDIGENOUS NIGERIAN UAV. ITS ISRAELI MADE AND PRODUCE AND PHOTOS POSTED WERE A PROPAGANDA BY YOU.

https://beegeagle./2013/07/03/an-israeli-made-aerostar-drone-of-the-nigerian-air-force-photo-credit-federal-ministry-of-information/

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:40am On Mar 07, 2016
BLUE LIES NO CAPACITY TO PRODUCE YOUR OWN....MAYBE THROUGH REVERSE ENGINEERING

Israeli drones under African skies


Post 04 May 2006

Last Updated on 23 April 2008

By Yossi Melman, Haaretz

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A few days ago, the American ambassador in Nigeria met with the Nigerian defense minister, Dr. Rabiu Kwankwaso. The ambassador complained about a major weapons deal that the Nigerian defense ministry had recently signed with the private Israeli company Aeronautics Defense Systems. He was upset that the deal had been given to an Israeli company without an international tender, thereby preventing American companies from bidding. Kwankwaso promised to clarify the issue and get back to him.

But despite the company and the Israeli Defense Ministry's concern over the American intervention, Israeli officials are convinced that the deal will go through.

The deal reflects only a small part of the operations of Aeronautics, a Yavneh-based company that manufactures drones and makes every effort to keep away from the media.


Largest arms deal

This is the largest arms deal that Israel has ever made with Nigeria. It was signed in the Nigerian capital in March between a local daughter company of Aeronautics and the Nigerian defense ministry. The Israeli company has agreed to design, develop, manufacture, install and prepare for operation three Aerostar Unmanned Aerial Vehicle intelligence systems and three Seastar systems for aerial and marine use. Each Aerostar system includes between three and six small unmanned planes, and each plane is equipped with sensors and cameras with both day- and night-vision capabilities. The drones can remain in the air for up to 14 hours.

The Seastar systems have drones that operate from ships and will be used by the Nigerian navy in the Delta region of the Niger River, an oil-rich area that in the last few months has become a battlefield where militias and guerrilla groups are fighting the federal government.

The increasing demand for oil and the hike in oil prices has turned the area into a strategically important region that serves as a focus of activity for American, British and French oil companies - and recently, also Chinese, Russian and Korean companies.

The Aeronautics deal is unusually large for Nigeria, which recently agreed to purchase 15 warplanes and flight training planes from China for a quarter of a billion dollars - $10 million less than it is paying for the Israeli deal.

The aggressive operating and marketing methods practiced by Aeronautics, which was founded in 1997 and is not selective in its choice of clients, have embroiled it in international scandals and a police inquiry over the last two years.

The company's expertise lies in supplying intelligence systems, primarily via drones. At first it won a tender to supply drone services to the IDF for activity in the Gaza area.

Aeronautics beat out Israel Aircraft Industries by offering its services at low prices. With an IDF contract in its pocket, Aeronautics was able to boast, as other manufacturers do, that the system had "proven itself in battle."

The early success whetted the appetite of the small company, which soon began ogling international markets. Aeronautics began operating in African countries, in the midst of civil war, whose corrupt regimes had a rich history of civil-rights violations, such as Equatorial Guinea.

The company's official Web site states that it is now active in India, the United States, England, Ethiopia, Russia, Nepal and Taiwan.


Ivory Coast dealings

In 2005 Aeronautics sold drones to the army of the Ivory Coast, involved in a civil war, while a French peace force was located there. A French unit gained control of Aeronautics equipment and destroyed it.

The Israeli involvement angered France, which demanded that Israel's Defense Ministry instruct Aeronautics and other Israeli companies to cut all ties with the Ivory Coast immediately and obey UN sanctions.

After a delay of several months, Israel was compelled to join countries around the world in imposing sanctions and halting the export of weapons to the Ivory Coast.

It was another episode that led to a police investigation of Aeronautics. The inquiry centered around the suspicion that the company had transferred information to a company in Russia without the Israeli government's permission. The Defense Ministry official responsible for security, Yehiel Horev, has been able to demand serious indictments for similar, suspected violations in the past, but the case was closed in this instance; the official reason was that the company was suspected of "technical violations."


A blind eye

This forgiving attitude toward Aeronautics gave people involved in the security export field the impression that the company had high-level patrons. Its board of directors and consultants include Major General Avigdor ("Yanush" Ben-Gal and former IDF chief of staff Amnon Lipkin-Shahak, and previously included former Shin Bet security service head Yaakov Perry as well. Perry said he left the company more than a year ago and was not involved in the Nigeria deal. Ben-Gal did not respond to a Haaretz request for comment.

Two Israeli businessmen - Alon Nelken from Savyon and Amit Sadeh, who represents him in Nigeria - mediated the Aeronautics-Nigeria deal. Both are well-connected to Nigerian government officials. To seal the deal, they enlisted the help of former Nigerian president General Ibrahim Babangida, who convinced the country's national security adviser - Lieutenant General Aliyu Mohammed Gusau, a powerful figure in Nigeria - of the importance of the Aeronautics deal.

Nelken, 52, came to Nigeria about 25 years ago as a representative of Israeli construction company Solel Boneh. He stayed there, working as a real estate entrepreneur and the owner of a security consulting company. He owns, among other projects, the Mega Plaza mall in Lagos.

The Nigerian government has already paid an advance of 10 percent ($26 million) for the Aeronautics deal, and some $5 million of that amount has been allocated to various agents.

Nelken and Sadeh are not listed in the Israeli Defense Ministry's security assistance division, apparently indicating that they are not allowed to be involved in security exports from Israel or even to conduct negotiations related to such imports. In response to a query on this matter, Aeronautics said: "This is a question that Nelken must be asked." Nelken confirmed that he had been involved in the deal, but refused to describe the extent of his involvement. The Defense Ministry did not respond to questions on the matter.

Nelken and Auronautics said the company had won the tender legally, beating out an American company, and is operating with the coordination and approval of the Israeli Defense Ministry.


History of close ties

Israel and Nigeria - the most populated country in Africa - share a history of close ties. Israeli companies operate in Nigeria in the fields of infrastructure, communications and agriculture. Hundreds of Israelis live there and ships belonging to the Israeli Zim shipping company stop at Nigerian ports. The two countries have long had security ties, and Israeli companies have previously sold Nigeria weapons for its police and military forces and its intelligence services.

Until a few years ago, Israeli Brigadier General (Res.) Shlomo Ilya was one of the major players in the supply of arms and security equipment to Nigeria. At the time, he was joined by Ben-Gal and Meir Dagan, now head of the Mossad.

Several Israeli companies operate in the Niger Delta, including JDP, which is owned by the Ashtrom International construction group and SCC, owned by Yosef Kalish from Haifa (who also owns the Sharbiv construction company in Israel.)

These companies are involved in infrastructure and agriculture initiatives and employ hundreds of workers.


Good for the State of Israel?

The Israeli embassy in Abuja was in on the secret contacts. Ambassador Noam Katz refused to discuss the issue, but an official Israeli source said that the deal involved "equipment that doesn't shoot," and that it was good for the State of Israel, especially in light of Nigeria's strengthened position as one of the world's major oil exporters.

However, some Israelis - and not just business competitors - are criticizing the deal. They say they are concerned that the presence of Israeli arms in Nigeria, especially in the Delta region, is liable to have negative ramifications. An Israeli businessman warned there was a fear that "due to the deal, the local population, with which we have excellent ties, will identify Israel and Israelis with its enemies."

http://nigeriavillagesquare.com/newsflash/israeli-drones-under-african-skies.html

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:55am On Mar 07, 2016
agaugust:
[size=13pt]SANDF Ratel IFV cannot run....or SANDF drivers cannot drive even at home without enemy pursuing them gringrin[/size]
All you did is prove how fvcking tough the Ratel is.....there were no injuries, and the Ratel will be operational again with in days.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 11:36am On Mar 07, 2016
Senior leaders of the Air Force cannot explain why Nigeria even needs an Air Force, but they continue to pursue combat aircraft to battle an unknown threat. Nigeria has an Air Force with few functional aircraft. The Nigerian Air Force (NAF) is largely irrelevant. Most of the Generals are pilots who feel the need to focus on fighter aircraft to protect Nigerian airspace against foreign incursion (by whom they won't say). With the exception of the helicopter fleet being used in the Niger Delta, most of NAF's aircraft are non-functional. There are six times as many general officers and flag officers in the Nigerian Air Force (NAF) and Nigerian Navy (NN) as there are operational ships and aircraft.

As of 2009, most of its fleets were grounded and its training institutions were constrained with shortages of technical skills such as instructors and institutional facilities. The highest percentage of the actual allocation to NAF compared with the annual budget proposal was just 31% in 2002. Evidently, the current budgetary allocations to the NAF cannot sustain effective and efficient aircraft maintenance activities. This is due to the constraints in spares acquisition. Lack of funding has been responsible for an inability to preserve aircraft regularly… Aircraft become due for Periodic Depot Maintenance (PDM) with time, and not by hours flown, because they are most of the time grounded for unserviceability. The reasons for unserviceability are usually traceable to lack of spares occasioned by insufficient funding.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/nigeria/air-force.htm

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 11:37am On Mar 07, 2016
The Air Officer Commanding Training Command, Air Vice Marshal Isyaku Umar, has lamented that the Nigerian Air Force Base in Kaduna has only one serviceable aircraft for the training of officers and men.

Umar told Chief of Air Staff Air Marshal Alex Badeh, who was on his maiden familiarization tour of the NAF base in Kaduna yesterday that “the NAF base has only one serviceable aircraft used in the training of its personnel”, saying the training base needs a minimum of three aircraft to be able to conduct its local training as well as VIP missions. He said since his assumption the command has been able to aid the federal overnment’s efforts in internal security operations with men and helicopter deployment and has as well participated actively in the recent Mali operation in line with NAF’s directives.

https://beegeagle./2013/02/08/nigerian-air-forces-301-flying-training-school-in-kaduna-has-only-one-serviceable-aircraft-of-the-required-complement-of-3-trainer-aircraft-11-student-and-instructor-pilots-conclude-training-at-303/

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by bidexiii: 11:49am On Mar 07, 2016
agaugust:
[size=13pt]SANDF Ratel IFV cannot run....or SANDF drivers cannot drive even at home without enemy pursuing them gringrin[/size]

Bikoo.....wetin happen......... grin grin shocked
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:26pm On Mar 07, 2016
Thiza:
The Air Officer Commanding Training Command, Air Vice Marshal Isyaku Umar, has lamented that the Nigerian Air Force Base in Kaduna has only one serviceable aircraft for the training of officers and men.

Umar told Chief of Air Staff Air Marshal Alex Badeh, who was on his maiden familiarization tour of the NAF base in Kaduna yesterday that “the NAF base has only one serviceable aircraft used in the training of its personnel”, saying the training base needs a minimum of three aircraft to be able to conduct its local training as well as VIP missions. He said since his assumption the command has been able to aid the federal overnment’s efforts in internal security operations with men and helicopter deployment and has as well participated actively in the recent Mali operation in line with NAF’s directives.

https://beegeagle./2013/02/08/nigerian-air-forces-301-flying-training-school-in-kaduna-has-only-one-serviceable-aircraft-of-the-required-complement-of-3-trainer-aircraft-11-student-and-instructor-pilots-conclude-training-at-303/

You epitomize the acute stup1dity of South-Africans.


So in the bush you come from we are in 2013?


No wonder you South-African Blacks ran to the tree tops when you first encountered Boers, and remained there till 1994.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Xbee007(m): 1:43pm On Mar 07, 2016
Pls, can we all spare a minute to report this THIZA to the mods for constantly derailing this thread.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:37pm On Mar 07, 2016
agaugust:

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NaijaPikingidi used 'snooper intel tools' to 'hack' out your real name as Patrick, and when he called you Patrick you answered him immediately saying "Yes, you know my name!".

Your real name is Patrick not Paul. Too late to change it, you criminal.

There is no Augustine on any Nigerian forum or blog claiming falsely to be an European and denying Nigerian citizenship, what we have is a Patches from South Africa who is an identity thief claiming to be a Croatian white man and denying South African citizenship of his own homeland. Shame on you for denying your fatherland in public. Shame on you fraudster !

Obsession? No ! I am a crime burster, bursting your fraud bubble. Look dude, in my office are retired USA military, FBI, and CIA guys.....I tap knowledge from them. You cannot fool me, that's why I used personality trait identification technique to detect that Patches and Croat have 100% same writing format, thinking pattern, and cognitive emotions.....that is a CIA technique used to detect people they are targeting or spying on in the espionage world.

Henry confirmed nothing, does he have your IP address or saw your international passport to confirm your true citizenship? He confirmed nothing, he cannot prove anything. He merely wanted peace on the photo thread......and hey on the photo thread africaken said he believes you are a South African marketer working for Denel......LOL....people know Croat = Patches
.

Yes, I answered that... and by so doing I was making fun of him!!

There is no Paul on Nigerian forum claiming flasely to be European either.

You confirmed nothing, do you have my IP adress or my international passport to confirm my true citizenship!

I am not Croat, I dont need to adopt a nom de guerre to humiliate you.

Your homosexual fixation must end.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:37pm On Mar 07, 2016
agaugust:
[size=13pt]SANDF Ratel IFV cannot run....or SANDF drivers cannot drive even at home without enemy pursuing them gringrin[/size]

You must be desperate today
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by snydergp1st(m): 3:13pm On Mar 07, 2016
Xbee007:
Pls, can we all spare a minute to report this THIZA to the mods for constantly derailing this thread.
shame

grin grin grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Xbee007(m): 3:42pm On Mar 07, 2016
snydergp1st:
shame

grin grin grin

tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue
The fact is that there is no one here that doesn't know how to use Google. A 5minute search on the internet will surely reveal the ugly things going on in ur society ranging from constant molestation from ur police officers to raping of women in police custody.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Zaha(m): 4:07pm On Mar 07, 2016
Xbee007:
Pls, can we all spare a minute to report this THIZA to the mods for constantly derailing this thread.
i concur
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:04pm On Mar 07, 2016
jln115:

All you did is prove how fvcking tough the Ratel is.....there were no injuries, and the Ratel will be operational again with in days.

Nope, the Ratel sommersaults have been happening in SANDF for many years and your soldiers have been dying inside Ratel IFV at home in peace time.


“Loss of control leads to the vehicle rolling,” said one military watcher adding deaths had been reported as a result of Ratels rolling." - Source: Defenceweb March 4, 2016.

South Africans cannot drive their own army vehicles from point A to point B in peacetime at home, so what will happen to SANDF if enemy tanks are pursuing you and you need to drive fast out of sight.....or you need to drive with speed out of an ambush....?

Your dullard army cannot drive SANDF owned IFVs without sommer-tumbling in broad daylight !!!!! grin

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:13pm On Mar 07, 2016

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Iblawi1: 8:31pm On Mar 07, 2016
agaugust:
Jacob Zuma coming to Abuja to kneel down and beg Nigeria for mercy...

http://www.african-defense.com/defense-news/south-african-defence-minister-among-government-entourage-to-visit-nigeria/
one dummy is posting link of 3 to 8 years ago while we post news of this year and the year b4 it. I just hope the dummy knows that a lot has changed within those 3- 8 years. the fool doesnt know that we are rising while they are falling.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:49pm On Mar 07, 2016
agaugust:


Nope, the Ratel sommersaults have been happening in SANDF for many years and your soldiers have been dying inside Ratel IFV at home in peace time.


“Loss of control leads to the vehicle rolling,” said one military watcher adding deaths had been reported as a result of Ratels rolling." - Source: Defenceweb March 4, 2016.

South Africans cannot drive their own army vehicles from point A to point B in peacetime at home, so what will happen to SANDF if enemy tanks are pursuing you and you need to drive fast out of sight.....or you need to drive with speed out of an ambush....?

Your dullard army cannot drive SANDF owned IFVs without sommer-tumbling in broad daylight !!!!! grin
I see you didn't bother to post the next paragraph, were it clearly states, that the deaths were caused by soldiers standing upright out of the hatches!!

secondly accidents happen in all militaries.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:51pm On Mar 07, 2016
agaugust:
Jacob Zuma coming to Abuja to kneel down and beg Nigeria for mercy...

http://www.african-defense.com/defense-news/south-african-defence-minister-among-government-entourage-to-visit-nigeria/
Beg for what?....we trained your soldiers....remember?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:13pm On Mar 07, 2016
jln115:

Beg for what?....we trained your soldiers....remember?

Evidence that the SANDF which is hopelessly poorly trained, trained more experienced Nigerian troops?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:21pm On Mar 07, 2016
jln115:

I see you didn't bother to post the next paragraph, were it clearly states, that the deaths were caused by soldiers standing upright out of the hatches!!

secondly accidents happen in all militaries.

Accidents happen, not foolish accidents like your SANDF is having regularly on homesoil.

Show me where Nigerian Igirigi summersaulted like your Ratel that raised up all its four legs with back flat on the ground like a LovePeddler who just got paid to be laid.

In war wont your soldiers stand up and look out of the turret, to do visual observation, is that not what turret is meant for?

Yours are too common, RATEL IFV has speed of 110 km/h, but at 80 km/h your SANDF drivers sommersault and crash to death. Your drivers cannot drive at speed because they are mumus. If you are crashing at random in peacetime when nobodybis pursuing you, what will happen to you when enemy ambushes you in a war?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:25pm On Mar 07, 2016
jln115:

Beg for what?....we trained your soldiers....remember?

Show me where SANDF trained Nigerian military, STTEP is a private military company with trainers from different countries. STTEP is not SANDF, or is that company your national army under Zuma's command?

We trained your air force and army generals who command the entire SANDF remember...
Nigerian military built your SANDF foundation from basic flying to infantry skills, etc
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:31pm On Mar 07, 2016
Henry240:


Evidence that the SANDF which is hopelessly poorly trained, trained more experienced Nigerian troops?
Dude, so are you now denying that Eeben Barlow and his company trained your soldiers?

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