Fighter Pilot:

Russia and China do not put people in Jail for being gays and they do recognise same-sex activities in pivate.

You are a bloody liar.

agaugust:

i wont repeat page 806 posts. your Umkhonto missile has a very limited altitude of only 10km and CANNOT harm any nigerian F-7 jet or Alpha jet flying at 12km altitude. weapons fight based on their technical limitations not based on the wideness your basket mouth

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Flying at a altitude of 12km to target a stealth warship? Which has more than 50 decoys and other advanced EW kit?. Without any modern targeting pod like the lighting pod in SAAF's Gripens. Your F7 jet is a complete joke for a country like Nigeria to fly it as its main air superiority fighter.

agaugust:

if a 3 feet short dwarf beats up a 6 feet tall man, the giant is a fool. simple.

Your analogy is childish. The hungry giant here doesn't have hands to fight two fast moving dwarfs. NO animal can fight with an empty stomach.

GH^KWAME:



Gay And ‘Pro-Gay’ Athletes, Tourists Will Face Arrest At Sochi 2014 Winter Olympics

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China Arrest Gay Activists During Idaho Events

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How do you explain the above links then?

You dont know these south Africans. They can lie and lie more when they are discovered.

Fighter Pilot:

Nigeria is not industrialised and is just a baby compared to SA in terms of any Industry, be it Auto-mobile and defence.

You people have been singing this same song for years now. Forgetting that industrialisation happens gradually.

We said we were building drones, you said the same thing. Now what happened? We launched a drone and more are to be buillt.

We said we are building an APC(igirigi), you sang the same song. What happened? We launched it and now it has been confirmed that proforce and DICON are mass producing.

We have produced warships and building a stealth warship (only country in Africa) etc...


Keep singing the "Nigeria is not industrialized" song while our industries gradually grow to over take yours the same way you argued that our economy will never be number one.

Mumu soldier.

agaugust:

south african defence industry is only more advanced than nigeria in missiles, howitzer artillery, drones, and MRAPs.

nigerian defence industry has become more advanced than south africa in sea warfare because nigeria is building the first stealth warship built in africa now, along with our biggest naval ship building/dockyard in all africa.

for small arms, light armoured vehicles, spy equipment, we are almost equal as at now.

for advanced heavy weapons, both countries are importers NOT producers

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Actually you're wrong let state more what South Africa defence industry can do and Nigeria's enable to do 1. Missiles 2. UAV 3. UCAV 4. Smart bombs 5. MRAPS 6. Maintains 7. Repair: DCD marine facility in Cape town is the largest ship repair yard in Africa 8.Advanced 155mm and 105mm howitzer shells 9. Mine detecting vehicles 10. Overhaul aircraft maintains and development.............Transferred technology doesn't mean your industry is advanced. You can't develop systems on your own,which would mean you're advanced................Spy equipment? Nigeria has no single Electronic warfare or electronic intelligence dedicated aircraft developed or fitted in Nigeria. South Africa companies install EW kits for the most advanced air forces in the world.......................South Africa imports because it would be costly to develop new systems like fighter jets from nothing. To show we are capable any weapon foreign system is fitted with South African made weapons,avionics and EW kits from the valour frigates to the Gripen multi-role fighter jets. I can't say the Badger cause it will be built in SA.........Development takes time and is costly but if needed South Africa has shown that it can develop anything from fighters to tanks. We can't say the same with Nigeria.

Fighter Pilot:


Still Nigeria is harsh when it comes to Gays andd lesbians.

Nobody goes about harassing gays and lesbians publicly in nigeria as is the case in south-africa. We (99% of us) can bear the sight of a man kissing another man.

agaugust:

Nigerian stealth warships Type 056 is still being built and the full weapons are not yet known or disclosed, last month i posted here big news from south african defenseweb and beegeagle that nigeria has changed our stealth warships radars from Chinese to British.

the final selection of weapons on board the nigerian stealth warships are still being worked out, and is classified information until concluded.

for now NNS ARADU Otomat missiles 180km range will sink any warship Valour or Squalor of south african navy.

http://beegeagle./2013/11/21/kelvin-hughes-tactical-navigation-and-situational-awareness-radars-selected-for-the-nigerian-navys-incoming-1800-ton-p18n-stealth-offshore-patrol-vessels-enlarged-derivative-of-the-type-056-corvet/

A corvette vessel is small and doesn't carry game charging weapons. Changing your Chinese radar is only normal cause China too relies on Europe for warship parts like engines and radar. And firing the Otomat missile will or never will guarantee a hit on the valour frigate cause it has many layers of protection from: stealth,EW jammers,modern radar,decoys,helicopter,modern SAM systems up to 16 or 32 umkhonto on each Frigate plus a close in weapon system which can put a wall of shells in front of any missile if detected and shred it into pieces..........................Besides a single old vessel can't or will never try to fight a modern stealth frigate escorted by a evasive diesel submarine.

Mike..ZA:
Development takes time and is costly but if needed South Africa has shown that it can develop anything from fighters to tanks. We can't say the same with Nigeria.

Because you are ignorant of that fact.

agaugust:

what i know well is the nightmare for you on page 806.... https://www.nairaland.com/415620/strongest-military-africa/806

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That page demonstrated your lack of knowledge about weapons. I mean where in history was a air to air missile tried against a surface target in the sea without modifications.

agaugust:

listen dumbo, all the missiles and guided bombs manufactured in south africa, can you fire them without imported European weapon platforms ?

fool

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YES.

chris365:

Guy please just shut up already. Who told you Nigerian military does not service it's weapons andaterials? You are not in a Rambo movie you know!

Thats the problem we have with you south Africans. You are so ignorant and still believe only SA can do it all. Really myopic

You must have missed last year's Nigerian army day when army the army displayed it's artillery, tanks, APC's that were serviced by the army on home soil. (those equipments were deemed un serviceable before then)

The navy is expanding the dock yard to accommodate bigger ships. They have built ships. What makes you think they can't service and maintain them.

The airforce last year serviced about 10 (can't remember) alfa jets, F-7N1 and transport plane (C130) locally by air force engineers.

We also manufacture our light weapons, APC(igirigi and perforce), drones, bombs and grenades.

Stop being under the illusions that only SA has the capacity to maintain it's weapons.

I trully hope you pot belly generals and soldiers are not as dumb as you. Smh

Who helped Nigeria service her Alpha jets and C-130 planes?. I'm not saying Nigeria can't do a thing what I'm saying is WHAT NIGERIA DOES IN TERMS WEAPONS MANUFACTURE AND MAINTAINS SOUTH AFRICA DOES IT BETTER AND BIGGER.

Henry120:
Nobody goes about harassing gays and lesbians publicly in nigeria as is the case in south-africa. We (99% of us) can bear the sight of a man kissing another man.

The government of SA does not support harrassment of gay people and has even allowed for their marriages. In Nigeria, the government even harasses them and the worst of it all in Northern Nigeria they are being stoned to death.

The worst profession in Nigeria is to become a soldier. It is like becoming a street sweeper in SA.

chris365:

You are a bloody liar.

Google is your friend make use of it.

This is about China. Decriminilised in 1997
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_China

And this is for Russia which was decriminilised in 1993.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_history_in_Russia

agaugust:

Aircraft electronic warfare too has developed , and Nigeria has the best in Africa with our ATR-42 Surveyor ruling the oceans of Africa from the air.

I wont repeat my post on the new ECM, ESM, and ECCM onboard nigerian air force ATR-42, just came back from Scotland with ELINT upgrade and NATO latest standard....like a mini AWACS, but south africa has NOTHING to challenge our ATR-42 mighty Surveyor in electronic warfare.

http://beegeagle./2013/12/03/nigerian-air-force-alenia-atr-42-500-mpa-surveyor-naf-931-now-a-more-advanced-special-mission-aircraft-undergoes-elint-upgrade-world-exclusive-photo/

[img]http://beegeagle.files./2013/12/screen-shot-2013-11-03-at-12-34-23-am.png[/img]

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Nigeria has no ELINT or EW plane. The ATR-42MP which it operates is a maritime surveillance or patrol aircraft. NO MINI AWAC!!!! EW kit doesn't mean it is a EW or ELINT plane. That equipment is for surveillance and patrol,it can't kind be used to guide your fighters during a dog fight. South Africa has the two EW and ELINT air systems (helicopters and plane) Here's perfect description of that plane. .en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATR_42 Now here's the profile of Nigeria's air force no mention of a EW or ELINT plane here.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Air_Force South Africa has this capability---»en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Air_Force. Besides project saucepan is on,new maritime patrol planes will be bought.

agaugust:

Nigeria too has many defence industries, DICON, AFIT, BADEH AEROSPACE, PROFORCE, NIGERDOCK, and several others

DENEL and ARMCOR themselves dont carry weapons and go to fight war or do they ? manufacturing companies are not soldiers. Lol !!!

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If needed SA engineers will man new weapons. They did so during the late phase of the boarder war in 88-89 with Ratel ZT3,when most soldiers never fired the Ingwe missile. South African companies are currently doing a lot of mine clearing in countries like Angola and the DRC.

agaugust:

DICON manufactures tens of thousands of assault rifles, GPMG machine guns, bullet proof vests, Rocket Propelled Grenade Launchers, ammunitions/ordnance, and many hundreds of 81mm Mortar artillery and many hundreds of Amoured personnel Carriers especially STEYR 4K-7FA, they also up-armour and up-gun hundreds of Pinzgauer vehicles.

NIGERDOCK up-guns hundreds of nigerian navy gun boats including our stealth combat catamarans.

nigeria has grown bigger than most nigerians even know, so i dont blame a south african for being ignorant.



South African defence industry built only 12 units of Rooivalk helicopters with ZERO export numbers in 25 years, and you exported only 102 units of G6 artillery in 25 years. so how big is your large scale ? like China ?

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Weapons that were manufactured or designed during the Bush war weren't designed for sells but better performance. The Rooivalk gave birth to South Africa's aviation industry,SA manufactures many parts for planes across the world including the A400M and Typhoon fighter jet................How many MRAPS and Mine detecting vehicles were exported to western nations?..........To sell weapons like helicopters a country needs a political and military muscle,where competition is high. Nigeria is yet to develop an aviation industry.

GH^KWAME:
Really?hmmmmm.... Anyway, who do you think murdered the former intel chief of Rwanda in the SA. Hotel?

Yes. The Rwandan president Paul Kagame is responsible his opponents are getting murdered all over the continent or world from Nigeria,Uganda and South Africa.

chris365:

So because we don't export means we don't manufacture in large quantity? I still doubt that you are a soldier.

The are a lot of reason why Nigeria doesn't export from producing weapons under license to producing weapons that are inferior to others in their class example being MRAPs. Producing is not important large or small,what's important is development of new systems and further developing old systems. 1. New designs 2. Quality 3.Politics 4.Fully Indigenous systems: This is the reason why South Africa has never managed to sell the Rooivalk.

chris365:

Because you are ignorant of that fact.

Purchasing weapons can be difficult during a war between powerful regional powers like Nigeria and South Africa. Defence industries will have to play a huge role in stuff like upgrading and maintains. A war of that scale would mean world powers will take sides like during the Biafran war. To stop both countries from fighting weapon sanctions can be applied starving both nations. This is where superior SA defence industry will became a game changer. South Africa can have proper fighting MBT between 3 to 7 years,well Nigeria...........................

Henry120:

Nobody goes about harassing gays and lesbians publicly in nigeria as is the case in south-africa.

Good point. The decision to legalize gay marriage was forced on them.

Bunch of hypocrites.

chris365:

Good point. The decision to legalize gay marriage was forced on them.

Bunch of hypocrites.

Forced on them? By who?

Even though i might not agree with gayism, this is too horrific, worse the useless & illiterate Nigerian police are doing nothing. Nigerians truly hate gays even though they like viewing them online. . so the guy who claimed nigerians don't harass gays and 99% don't want to see men kissing is lying, because nigerian are the top gay porn viewers online.

2 'Gay Men' Beaten To DEATH While Police Watched In Nigeria (Watch GRAPHIC Video)

ZDee: Even though i might not agree with gayism, this is too horrific, worse the useless & illiterate Nigerian police are doing nothing. Nigerians truly hate gays even though they like viewing them online. . so the guy who claimed nigerians don't harass gays and 99% don't want to see men kissing is lying, because nigerian are the top gay porn viewers online.

2 'Gay Men' Beaten To DEATH While Police Watched In Nigeria (Watch GRAPHIC Video)

all this bla bla doesn't change a thing. majority of Nigerians (99%) don't accept it. period.

if south Africans were not forced to accept it, then why did the word "hate crime" and "corrective rape" originate from SA?

keep your homos and if you need more, we will export them to you to fvck.

23-Year Old Beheaded In Anti-Gay Hate Crime Murder In South Africa
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/23-year-old-beheaded-in-anti-gay-hate-crime-murder-in-south-africa/news/2012/06/13/41416

Mike..ZA:
,well Nigeria...........................

exactly. you are ignorant of the fact. let's keep it that way since you are unwilling to learn.

these south Africans on this thread are really myopic and funny.

what is a society that claims to accept gay rights but hunts them down like animals.

yet want to put themselves on par with western countries that forced it down their throats. pure hypocrites. at least we don't hide the fact that we hate the act.

chris365: these south Africans on this thread are really myopic and funny.

what is a society that claims to accept gay rights but hunts them down like animals.

yet want to put themselves on par with western countries that forced it down their throats. pure hypocrites. at least we don't hide the fact that we hate the act.

Which western country forced it down our throats? You've been saying this throughout the thread. Show me a source pls.

chris365:

all this bla bla doesn't change a thing. majority of Nigerians (99%) don't accept it. period.

if south Africans were not forced to accept it, then why did the word "hate crime" and "corrective rape" originate from SA?

keep your homos and if you need more, we will export them to you to fvck.

23-Year Old Beheaded In Anti-Gay Hate Crime Murder In South Africa
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/23-year-old-beheaded-in-anti-gay-hate-crime-murder-in-south-africa/news/2012/06/13/41416

Yes y'all don't except it, but you love viewing gay porn online. bloody hypocrites

Less than 1% of Nigerians Tolerate Homosexuality Yet, Nigeria is in the Top 5 Google Searches for Gay Porn


In Nigeria a Mere Rumor of Being Gay Can Lead to Violence

bunch of hypocrites these nigerians..

Mike..ZA:
Nigeria has no ELINT or EW plane. The ATR-42MP which it operates is a maritime surveillance or patrol aircraft. NO MINI AWAC!!!! EW kit doesn't mean it is a EW or ELINT plane. That equipment is for surveillance and patrol,it can't kind be used to guide your fighters during a dog fight. South Africa has the two EW and ELINT air systems (helicopters and plane) Here's perfect description of that plane. .en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATR_42 Now here's the profile of Nigeria's air force no mention of a EW or ELINT plane here.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Air_Force South Africa has this capability---»en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Air_Force. Besides project saucepan is on,new maritime patrol planes will be bought.

Please go a few pages back and look for the entry. The hump you see towards the rear (between the wings) is the ELINT addition. This was done towards the end of last year in Scotland. Stop arguing just for the sake of it. We don't have to tell you, we can let you fester in ignorance to boost your morale.

Fighter Pilot: The worst profession in Nigeria is to become a soldier. It is like becoming a street sweeper in SA.

Now this is from someone who hasn't got anything more to say .

You obviously have no idea of the competition for places to enlist in the Nigerian Armed Forces .

ZDee:

Yes y'all don't except it, but you love viewing gay porn online. bloody hypocrites

Less than 1% of Nigerians Tolerate Homosexuality Yet, Nigeria is in the Top 5 Google Searches for Gay Porn


In Nigeria a Mere Rumor of Being Gay Can Lead to Violence

bunch of hypocrites these nigerians..

Lots of people view porn on line, doesn't mean they want homosexuality/lesbianism as the norm. So I suppose the high number of r*pe/s*xual assault cases in South Africa is a consequence of SAs viewing porn online.

The act is not natural, and won't be accepted in Nigeria, simple.

Now back to military matters as this thread is not a gay counselling forum.