Why should any unbeliever accept the bible as the word of God? What objective and irrefutable evidence does the bible provide to show that it's claims are true? On what merits should it be accepted as true?

IT IS OLDER THAN YOU. simple. and it would OUTLIVE YOU.


so dont come here and start what you can't finish.

dalaman:
Why should any unbeliever accept the bible as the word of God? What objective and irrefutable evidence does the bible provide to show that it's claims are true? On what merits should it be accepted as true?

First you have to be dunce.

Then you have to be very gullible to believe all the rubbish in the bible

You also have to a be good hypocrite because it takes a lot of hypocrisy to read one thing and then interpret it in another way

You also have to be self centered and lack possess a huge dose of apathy because it takes a high level of narcissism to be comfortable with the fact that your god is a psychopath who will send everyone who doesn't believe in it to hell despite it's hide and seek and also to willingly serve a god that is oblivious to world suffering

And whatever happens that you are ignorant of or can't explain just say "god did it" or "na devil cause am"

greatnaija01:
IT IS OLDER THAN YOU. simple. and it would OUTLIVE YOU.


so dont come here and start what you can't finish.

what an asinine post

Koran is older than me and would outlive me

Book of Mormon is older than me and would outlive me

Vedas is older than me and would outlive me

Kitáb-i-Aqdas is older than me and would outlive me

Tripitaka (Pali Canon) is older than me and would outlive me

Mahayana Sutras is older than me and would outlive me

Tibetan Book of the Dead is older than me and would outlive me

to mention a few

books that are older than me and would outlive me are a dime a dozen

dalaman:
Why should any unbeliever accept the bible as the word of God? What objective and irrefutable evidence does the bible provide to show that it's claims are true? On what merits should it be accepted as true?

we are not the people to convince me, marketers may convince u 2 buy their product with sweet mouth , but we are more of action. U are asking nairalanders, dats why u not getting answers . ask the author of the book, the right questions by the way, am confident u will get answers dat will leave u perfectly convinced.

HRHQueenPhil:


we are not the people to convince me, marketers may convince u 2 buy their product with sweet mouth , but we are more of action. U are asking nairalanders, dats why u not getting answers . ask the author of the book, the right questions by the way, am confident u will get answers dat will leave u perfectly convinced.

Authors you mean? Aren't they dead? Moses , Isaiah, Ezekiel, John, Paul etc?

the author is d HOLY SPIRIT

DeSepiero:


Authors you mean? Aren't they dead? Moses , Isaiah, Ezekiel, John, Paul etc?

HRHQueenPhil:
the author is d HOLY SPIRIT

Wrong!!! Try again.

greatnaija01:
IT IS OLDER THAN YOU. simple. and it would OUTLIVE YOU.


so dont come here and start what you can't finish.

Zoroastrianism was OLDER than Christianity. By about 1000 years, in fact.

Why aren't you busy setting up fire temples and worshipping Zarathustra?


Your post didn't answer the OP at all. Get out if you're just going to be a fool.

dalaman:
Why should any unbeliever accept the bible as the word of God? What objective and irrefutable evidence does the bible provide to show that it's claims are true? On what merits should it be accepted as true?

THE BIBLE IS A WRITTEN word OF GOD THAT TESTIFY ABOUT THE LIVING WORD OF GOD...

THE BIBLE HAVE NO LIFE AND CANNOT GIVE LIFE...IT ONLY POINT AND LEAD US TO WHERE WE CAN FIND LIVE...

DeSepiero:


Authors you mean? Aren't they dead? Moses , Isaiah, Ezekiel, John, Paul etc?

Most of the authors are unknown. The books only carry pseudonames.

bloodofthelamb:


THE BIBLE IS A WRITTEN word OF GOD THAT TESTIFY ABOUT THE LIVING WORD OF GOD...

THE BIBLE HAVE NO LIFE AND CANNOT GIVE LIFE...IT ONLY POINT AND LEAD US TO WHERE WE CAN FIND LIVE...

How do you know that the bible is the written word of God? How did you confirm it?

Let me use this syllogism by Nicolas Berggren to prove that the bible is not the word of God.

1.If the Christian God (as defined) exists, there is a being who is omnipotent, omniscient, and perfectly good. [propositonal function]
2. If there is a being who is omnipotent, omniscient, and perfectly good, his revelation is error-free, unambiguously clear, easy to understand and objectively verifiable as true. [propositional function]
3. The Bible is neither error-free, unambiguously clear, easy to understand nor objectively verifiable. [proposition based on observation]
C. Therefore Christian God does not exist.

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How do you know that the bible is the written word of God? How did you confirm it? [/quote


THROUGH FAITH. I BELIEVE TO KNOW AND NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND.

dalaman:
Why should any unbeliever accept the bible as the word of God? What objective and irrefutable evidence does the bible provide to show that it's claims are true? On what merits should it be accepted as true?

The first time your teacher tells you the -1-1 = +1, why did you believed?

hahn:
First you have to be dunce.

Then you have to be very gullible to believe all the rubbish in the bible

You also have to a be good hypocrite because it takes a lot of hypocrisy to read one thing and then interpret it in another way

You also have to be self centered and lack possess a huge dose of apathy because it takes a high level of narcissism to be comfortable with the fact that your god is a psychopath who will send everyone who doesn't believe in it to hell despite it's hide and seek and also to willingly serve a god that is oblivious to world suffering

And whatever happens that you are ignorant of or can't explain just say "god did it" or "na devil cause am"

To be frank, you discuss myths even more than their adherents. It means you are rather too keen on removing religion and you vent your frustration since you ain't getting it.
Those who hold on to the said 'myths' as real have the right to give whatever interpretation they see fit, it is not your business how they chose to interpret their texts.
Permit me to dispel your disingenuous claims, intellect is not mutually exclusive to theism neither is atheism a perfectly logical stance. Belief and intelligence are miles apart on a comparison scale, choosing to define one based on the level of the other is like saying you only know if hamburger is delicious if you taste fufu... So choosing to believe in a holy text doesn't make one a dunce, it has no correlation with intelligence, it is a matter of choice.

kingvicky:


To be frank, you discuss myths even more than their adherents.

Yes I do and that is mostly because I think about it more than most adherents do. Most theists don't ponder over their beliefs, it's teachings and it's god often enough but for me I see it in every facet of the society especially as a Nigerian

It means you are rather too keen on removing religion and you vent your frustration since you ain't getting it.

Assumptions. Assumptions. Typical of an average theist

Those who hold on to the said 'myths' as real have the right to give whatever interpretation they see fit, it is not your business how they chose to interpret their texts.

Oh but it is because these theists put their religion in my face in the name of "evangelism" and "preaching" by telling me they have the right to "spread the word"

Permit me to dispel your disingenuous claims, intellect is not mutually exclusive to theism neither is atheism a perfectly logical stance. Belief and intelligence are miles apart on a comparison scale, choosing to define one based on the level of the other is like saying you only know if hamburger is delicious if you taste fufu

Save this sermon for the deluded, illiterate goat herders or psychopathic and incompetent god who wrote the holy book you hold on to dearly who felt they/it had the audacity despite their/it's ignorance to state that people who do not believe are "fools"

... So choosing to believe in a holy text doesn't make one a dunce, it has no correlation with intelligence, it is a matter of choice.

Think about it for a moment. Only a dunce would believe that there is a god in the sky with a temper who loves us unconditionally but will send us to hell for not loving it but sees nothing wrong in watching women get raped, innocent children getting murdered, poverty, hunger and suffering or who believes in talking snakes, talking donkeys, flying chariots and other such nonsense.

I mean to actually believe these things are real requires either a deliberate dishonesty towards his/her own intelligence or the person is totally dunce and gullible.

Don't you think?

kingvicky

Choosing to be stupid doesn't make you wise, does it?

dalaman:
Why should any unbeliever accept the bible as the word of God? What objective and irrefutable evidence does the bible provide to show that it's claims are true? On what merits should it be accepted as true?

The God it Reveals has transformed lives and communities! Not by long therapy but in a moment. Besides, the promises and prophecies therein are true.

But we need differentiate here:
Is the seeker an unbeliever or an ex-believer.

Reason being that, the latter, like some folks on this forum, are likely to relate with the Bible based on their pent-up rage/bitterness/anger (one even said it takes a dunce to believe the Bible: generalisation re-defined! we have professors, intellectuals etc who believe the Bible, what then?) or whatever it is that makes them so, against the Bible.

Now, an unbeliever (even ex-believers) that seeks with an open heart (and not on a revenge mission) will find:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Strobel

kingvicky:


To be frank, you discuss myths even more than their adherents. It means you are rather too keen on removing religion and you vent your frustration since you ain't getting it.
Those who hold on to the said 'myths' as real have the right to give whatever interpretation they see fit, it is not your business how they chose to interpret their texts.
Permit me to dispel your disingenuous claims, intellect is not mutually exclusive to theism neither is atheism a perfectly logical stance. Belief and intelligence are miles apart on a comparison scale, choosing to define one based on the level of the other is like saying you only know if hamburger is delicious if you taste fufu... So choosing to believe in a holy text doesn't make one a dunce, it has no correlation with intelligence, it is a matter of choice.

Next time mark his name hahn, he has severally respond to text in uncivilised manner and with less decorum. Discussion with him is a waste of LIFE not only time. meanwhile I love your last line

xpmode:



Next time mark his name hahn, he has severally respond to text in uncivilised manner and with less decorum. Discussion with him is a waste of LIFE not only time. meanwhile I love your last line

Why won't you love his last line considering your lack of intelligence

hahn:


Why won't you love his last line considering your lack of intelligence

Must you mention me, am not talking to you, bye

GoodMuyis:


The first time your teacher tells you the -1-1 = +1, why did you believed?

I believed because there are mathematical laws that and involved and when applied will give you that answer.

xpmode:


Must you mention me, am not talking to you, bye

Next time don't mention me deludy

dalaman:
Why should any unbeliever accept the bible as the word of God? What objective and irrefutable evidence does the bible provide to show that it's claims are true? On what merits should it be accepted as true?

It's simple really. Read it as if it were the word of god, but be delighted that you don't believe in gods. After all, you've hopefully read a lot of fiction, haven't you? Did you believe the fictitious stories you read? Did you not learn from them?

I love books too much not to love the bible. In it's day, it would be the equivalent of handing everyone a library of books. How can that be a bad thing? But like everything, bad people will turn it to their advantage. And is that not the amazing story depicted in the story of the Garden of Eden?

"Ye shall not surely die, For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil." And did they die? Surely not. But they who would turn it to their advantage twist it and claim they died by claiming dying does not mean what anyone would think it meant! If only people could think for themselves instead of claiming a 'Moses' should go up the mountain, for they themselves are not worthy of being in the presence of God!

Read further on and the stories in the Gospels put more flesh on the word. Is it not obvious that the Pharisees were copying the god of the Garden of Eden? A serpent comes along, except this time, those who know now call him the Messiah. 'Know ye not ye are gods', he claims, but this time, just so you don't get it, the quibble is over the size of the letter 'g' in the word god!

The merit of pudding is in its eating, some say.

"And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not." Please tell me that is not one of the truest statements you have ever heard!

It is the "Word of God" if you put on godly lenses when you read it. Without them, its at best, a good story book. But God save us from the believing sorts.

dalaman:


I believed because there are mathematical laws that and involved and when applied will give you that answer.

I know where you are going and your was wrong. The mathematical laws you stated is biased to favour expected result. why should you introduce division when solving for debt of -1
At the primary/elementary level any -ve number is regarded as borrow and that is biased toward not confusing the kids brain.



Since you introduce law, I will also continue on that. For anyone accept the bible as the word of God, he must follow some spiritual law and evidence of spiritual activities.
An the mathematical law you talk about, you did not understand at first but had to accept it. Its only further study that you discovered the fact

On what merits should it be accepted as true? If it reading it with open mindedness and it affect your life +ve

hahn being an atheist, can you kindly show us the work your own intelligence has produce.
Like some kind of book you wrote or device invented (even if it is prototype)

GoodMuyis:
hahn being an atheist, can you kindly show us the work your own intelligence has produce.
Like some kind of book you wrote or device invented (even if it is prototype)

I am a business man and I manage a website that pays my bills

Also, my wife recently gave birth to a bouncing baby boy

All these thing were achieved without the belief in god

PS: I am not a writer nor a scientist




Can you mention one major discovery that has been made due to a text in your holy book?

GoodMuyis:


The first time your teacher tells you the -1-1 = +1, why did you believed?

- 1-1=-2

hahn:

I am a business man and I manage a website that pays my bills
Also, my wife recently gave birth to a bouncing baby boy
All these thing were achieved without the belief in god

PS: I am not a writer nor a scientist
Can you mention one major discovery that has been made due to a text in your holy book?

I am a business man myself and I have created many website that pays my bills and support charity

Mention one major discovery- due to a text in your holy book? Am telling you noting, until ten atheist does that

Gen 1:3 - And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. - This is where my major discovery lies.

Have you heard of nafarmfoods we have mage a good discovery and we are all religious people (Muslim/Christian) whose intelligence is working by God's grace

Martinez19:
- 1-1=-2

-1 (goat) -1 (goat) = -2 (goat)