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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by Emapel: 3:28pm On Nov 24, 2017
Pastor's are the beggars..collect from the poor member, an still talk as if the money is transferred to God's account

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by derecho(m): 3:30pm On Nov 24, 2017
Thanks for your OPINION. But We walk on God's terms and leading.Our good deeds are best described as self-righteousness.Giving to others could be alms or anything but not tithe or offering.Tithe simply means tenth part of your income to God not pastors or the needy.Tithers,as u'll like to call them ,also give alms and give to the needy.

Bring ye ALL THE TITHES into the storehouse,
that there may be meat IN MY HOUSE...
BabaAduras:


God bless you for your comment.

I believe in tithing but I do not give my tithes to the church. I see my tithe as my token contribution to mankind, so I give my tithes to orphanages and needy people around me.

Sincerely yours, any Pastor that is proclaiming curses because of tithes is nothing but a desperate Pastorprenuer. If they are truly sent by God, they should know better that it is not in their power to bless or to curse. That Power only resides with God almighty to whom we all are going to return to to give account of stewardship on earth.

So I know I do not have to please any Pastor, the only Beign I need to fear and please is God. If I find favour with God, who is a pastor ( a mere mortal like me) to curse me? We should all know that Pastors pronouncements (especially those that are biblical) are very inconsequential.

I can tell you I am enjoying the favour of God. I am enjoying not because of anything I do or I am doing, I am only enjoying it ONLY because it pleases God. HE says, "I will have mercy on who I will mercy on". That is His SOVEREIGNTY over us.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by POYINKOR(m): 3:34pm On Nov 24, 2017
Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always. And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the Lord thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the Lord thy God hath blessed thee: Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the Lord thy God shall choose: And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the Lord thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household, And the Levite that is within thy gates; thou shalt not forsake him; for he hath no part nor inheritance with thee. At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest.
Deuteronomy 14:22‭-‬29 KJV

Tithe is food for all, not money for pastor

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by babseg(m): 3:35pm On Nov 24, 2017
Emapel:
Pastor's are the beggars..collect from the poor member, an still talk as if the money is transferred to God's account

These pastors cant even back up their claim with the bible but they are quick to curse.

Oyedepo can curse anything

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by LeanonGOD(m): 3:35pm On Nov 24, 2017
It seems that you are the arrogant-bishop press secretary - thanks for enlightening us about the bishop's background.
bezimo:


If you have nothing constructive and insightful on the matter get lost and try to inform your ignorance before you advertise it..Common sense demands that before you villify the man of God you should know a few basic things about him..
He was called of God in 1981 he was ordained and commisioned into church ministry in 1983 by Pastor EA Adeboye and anoited Bishop in 1987 by a most revered Man of God who mentored him in the 80s and 90s in person of ArchBishop Benson Idahosa..I guess that time you possibly werent even born.Oh he is not a God ordained priest..if not that you are a comfirm ignorant person. Who is a priest? How is a priest ordained? What is the function of a priest? How does a priest fit into the 5 fold minstry offices described by paul in the new testament?
Even the demonic forces of hell acknowledge Papa Oyedepo as a sent man of God with undeniable proofs. Oh you dont know. Is not your fault.
like Papa would often say impact is not by title.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by PrecisionFx(m): 3:39pm On Nov 24, 2017
bezimo:


If you have nothing constructive and insightful on the matter get lost and try to inform your ignorance before you advertise it..Common sense demands that before you villify the man of God you should know a few basic things about him..
He was called of God in 1981 he was ordained and commisioned into church ministry in 1983 by Pastor EA Adeboye and anoited Bishop in 1987 by a most revered Man of God who mentored him in the 80s and 90s in person of ArchBishop Benson Idahosa..I guess that time you possibly werent even born.Oh he is not a God ordained priest..if not that you are a comfirm ignorant person. Who is a priest? How is a priest ordained? What is the function of a priest? How does a priest fit into the 5 fold minstry offices described by paul in the new testament?
Even the demonic forces of hell acknowledge Papa Oyedepo as a sent man of God with undeniable proofs. Oh you dont know. Is not your fault.
like Papa would often say impact is not by title.




""He was called of God in 1981 - So how did u find out that he was called by God

""1983 by Pastor EA Adeboye and anoited Bishop in 1987 by a most revered Man of God who mentored him in the 80s and 90s in person of ArchBishop Benson Idahosa" - Oh his fellow yahoo boys ordained him. I thought maybe u would have told me that God ordained him by himself like Jesus n john the Baptist in the Bible.


As I clearly stated which u fled from addressing, Malachi isn't someone's name, in Hebrew it means the prophets. The whole book of Malachi is a book of rules n regulations for the levites(Pastors n prophets n Priests). Any man of God that reads out malachi 3 vs 10 to his congregation is a very BIG thief n a liar, He will end up in hell for pushing his responsibilities to his gullible members.

The rules of tithing is very clear in Deuteronomy 26 vs 12 and Deuteronomy 14 be 28.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by bukola08(m): 3:43pm On Nov 24, 2017
Ode. !!! Mtchrwwwwwew
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by PrecisionFx(m): 3:43pm On Nov 24, 2017
derecho:
Thanks for your OPINION. But We walk on God's terms and leading.Our good deeds are best described as self-righteousness.Giving to others could be alms or anything but not tithe or offering.Tithe simply means tenth part of your income to God not pastors or the needy.Tithers,as u'll like to call them ,also give alms and give to the needy.

Bring ye ALL THE TITHES into the storehouse,
that there may be meat IN MY HOUSE...


Oga tithe is not money.
Can u show me where the Bible states that u should pay 10% of ur money. Tithe is food, there's no confusion about that in the Bible.

Malachi 3 vs 10 is a warning to the priests who didn't pay their tithe in full



Go and read ur Bible.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by wiloy2k8(m): 3:44pm On Nov 24, 2017
deebrain:
Sir, Whether it makes me a beggar or it makes me a millionaire, whether the church uses the money to build an orphanage or send a LovePeddler to school, I WILL PAY MY TITHE. AND DO IT PROUDLY.

Brilliant online critics, kill yourselves.

who cares
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by lastmessenger: 3:50pm On Nov 24, 2017
Josade44:


Concerning what you said about the New testament having No drop of the mention or command on tithing..Pls read Jesus words to Some group of Pharisee in Matthew 23:23.

And again, Bishop is adresing born again Christians, He wasn't saying this in a crusade but in a church.

Tithing for Christians is a Covenant obligation, Do it joyfully and enjoy the dividend, vice versa.

As an ordained Pastor, I believe in imploring and teaching people about giving generally and not to build on a faulty foundation.

I've heard some folks say if you don't pay your tithes, ur life will be tithe: i dont agree with that. As a matter of fact, u might be the richest Christians from the human viewpoint fir having even tot of paying ur tithes, but true riches are not far form those that pay their tithe..U r far from the covenant blessing of those that do pay their tithes.
Thanks
in the passage you referred to you,it is obvious that Jesus was addressing a man still under the law. He has not done the work on the cross that put an end to such practices. Remember Jesus observed feast of passover and even the Sabbath days still Christians don't observe Passover and sabbath days.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by Egein(m): 3:52pm On Nov 24, 2017
My fellow beggers include, but are not limited to the following:
1. Bill Gates
2. Aliko Dangote
3. Every single Arab billionaire (very funny that Adeboye spends his holidays at Dubai hotels)
4. Mark Zuckerberg
etc.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by translux(m): 3:54pm On Nov 24, 2017
I don't understand why our preachers always emphasise on tithe these days, What about Salvation or could it be that the soul of men is no longer important

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by bezimo(m): 3:54pm On Nov 24, 2017
PrecisionFx:





""He was called of God in 1981 - So how did u find out that he was called by God

""1983 by Pastor EA Adeboye and anoited Bishop in 1987 by a most revered Man of God who mentored him in the 80s and 90s in person of ArchBishop Benson Idahosa" - Oh his fellow yahoo boys ordained him. I thought maybe u would have told me that God ordained him by himself like Jesus n john the Baptist in the Bible.


As I clearly stated which u fled from addressing, Malachi isn't someone's name, in Hebrew it means the prophets. The whole book of Malachi is a book of rules n regulations for the levites(Pastors n prophets n Priests). Any man of God that reads out malachi 3 vs 10 to his congregation is a very BIG thief n a liar, He will end up in hell for pushing his responsibilities to his gullible members.

The rules of tithing is very clear in Deuteronomy 26 vs 12 and Deuteronomy 14 be 28.

That you have the temerity to address these revered Men of God in this manner reflects the extent of the depravity of your mind towards things of value in the kingdom and such its stupidity for me to dignifying this ignorance and depravity with a further response. So ride on!!
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by Nobody: 3:57pm On Nov 24, 2017
Anybody that pays that nonsense tithing is a big fooool
yemmight:
A lot of successful individuals that i know who dont give tithe. Instead of being beggars, they have remained givers. A lot of emphasis on tithes in Nigeria.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by PrecisionFx(m): 3:58pm On Nov 24, 2017
bezimo:


That you have the temerity to address these revered Men of God in this manner reflects the extent of the depravity of your mind towards things of value in the kingdom and such its stupidity for me to dignifying this ignorance and depravity with a further response. So ride on!!


grin grin grin grin.
Chai.

I knew this was going to be ur response grin.

Any time clear Bible facts is listed for people like u, u start correcting spelling.

GOAN EDUCATE UR SELF, THE BIBLE IS AN APP, USE IT.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by PrecisionFx(m): 3:59pm On Nov 24, 2017
translux:
I don't understand why our preachers always emphasise on tithe these days, What about Salvation or could it be that the soul of men is no longer important

A pastor on average doesn't care about how or where their followers will end up after after death.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by Samostical(m): 4:00pm On Nov 24, 2017
OtemSapien:
Thief Oledepo is a clown cheesy
Some sheeple will fall for this grin
YOU JUST BROUGHT A CURSE ON YOURSELF BY INSULTING GOD'S ANOINTED. GBAM
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by PrecisionFx(m): 4:03pm On Nov 24, 2017
Samostical:
YOU JUST BROUGHT A CURSE ON YOURSELF BY INSULTING GOD'S ANOINTED. GBAM


So where n wen did God annoint Oyedepo

And also let's assume God anointed him, Does that empower him to slap people in his church

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by chizzy4eazy(f): 4:04pm On Nov 24, 2017
this so called pastors shuld try n respect themselves small, they are making us to be so ashame of them and making our minds to be baise day by day. as much as i know u must nt tel pple your source of income,
perhaps every true xtain kbows that his/her 10% blongs to God" initaily to the preist/pastor"
for the developement of the tabanacle n so they shall not be lack in the sanctuary. But if the sanctuary has bn develope and there is enough oil in the tabanacle , and there was change for hange the pastors to buy jet, wat did u expect the tithers to do.
to continue paying tithes in other to get some jet for ur children children? hmmm
brethren , they are so many ways to pay tithes s if u finds out that ur church has bn develop n u are sure ur pastote is ok both in feeding, riding n gamily etc. PLZ Y NOT TAKE UR TITHE TO THE STREET N STOP COMPLAINING on pastors jet n riches.
i reserve my comment.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by OtemSapien: 4:06pm On Nov 24, 2017
Samostical:
YOU JUST BROUGHT A CURSE ON YOURSELF BY INSULTING GOD'S ANOINTED. GBAM
kikikiki, so wetin me kon be? I be God's disanointed BTW, the so-called god you are talking about is currently serving a millennial jailterm in his spiritual prison, so let him keep cursing from there, who cares? undecided

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by tosyne2much(m): 4:06pm On Nov 24, 2017
The kind of emphasis Nigerian pastors place on tithe is just so worrisome. I personally know men of God who lay curses on non tithers and will go to the length of using Bible verses to rain curses on those who do not pay their tithes

If you have friends living abroad, kindly ask them if men of God over there lay curses on members as regards tithes and you will be surprised that such a thing is only peculiar to Nigerian pastors

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by romeorailss: 4:06pm On Nov 24, 2017
Ijaya123:
Who does Dangote pay his tithes to?

Pastor Lawrence angry
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by smudge2079(m): 4:11pm On Nov 24, 2017
Hmmmmmmmm..... Lemme keep my thoughts to myself.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by Bbsharon(f): 4:14pm On Nov 24, 2017
kcowen:
Pay attention to the people you listen
to. Jesus didn't die to have you subject yourself
to this kind of demonic teaching. I feel sorry for
Pastor Adefarasin's followers who believe this
doctrine of tithing.

The scriptures are titheocentric
"God created the universe, he took a tithe the
milky way.
God created the milky way, he took a tithe the
galaxy, our galaxy.
God created the galaxy, he took a tithe our solar
system. God created the solar system, he took a
tithe planet earth.
God created planet earth, he took a tithe Isreal.
God created Isreal, he took a tithe Jerusalem the
city of David.
God created Jerusalem, he took a tithe the
temple. God created the temple, he took a tithe
the holies of holies
God created the holies of holies, he took a tithe
the mercy seat.
God created all species of being, he took a tithe
the family of God which is comprised of angels,
the living and the dead in christ.
God created the family of God, he took a tithe
Israel. God created Israel, he took a tithe Levi
God created humanity, he took a tithe the church
God created the church, he took a tithe the
eldership. God created the eldership, he took a
tithe the Apostles.
God created the church, he took a tithe the head
of the church Christ.
Jesus Christ was a tithe carrying a tithe to the
tithe the mercy seat "
I don't know if this is metaphysics or titheology

Madness in it's pure form. So this man turned astronuts because of tithe. What a shame.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by Blonchilli(m): 4:17pm On Nov 24, 2017
If these Pastors channelled the same energy they're using to defend the source of their income to condemn everything wrong with the country and cyber crime this country would be a better place. Religion is indeed the opium of the masses

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by tosyne2much(m): 4:20pm On Nov 24, 2017
chizzy4eazy:
this so called pastors shuld try n respect themselves small, they are making us to be so ashame of them and making our minds to be baise day by day. as much as i know u must nt tel pple your source of income,
perhaps every true xtain kbows that his/her 10% blongs to God" initaily to the preist/pastor"
for the developement of the tabanacle n so they shall not be lack in the sanctuary. But if the sanctuary has bn develope and there is enough oil in the tabanacle , and there was change for hange the pastors to buy jet, wat did u expect the tithers to do.
to continue paying tithes in other to get some jet for ur children children? hmmm
brethren , they are so many ways to pay tithes s if u finds out that ur church has bn develop n u are sure ur pastote is ok both in feeding, riding n gamily etc. PLZ Y NOT TAKE UR TITHE TO THE STREET N STOP COMPLAINING on pastors jet n riches.
i reserve my comment.

This tithe issue of a thing is becoming annoying day by day. Though, it's the duty of every true Christian to pay his tithe promptly but the rate at which some men of God go about preaching the payment of tithes is even more than that of salvation.

What we see everyday is how your business will collapses or how you will always beg for food if you fail to pay your tithe.

The whole thing is becoming nauseating

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by Bruno3000(m): 4:20pm On Nov 24, 2017
greatCharley:
if he said this, then I am disappointed
same here o.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by Johncuppa(m): 4:22pm On Nov 24, 2017
deebrain:
Sir, Whether it makes me a beggar or it makes me a millionaire, whether the church uses the money to build an orphanage or send a LovePeddler to school, I WILL PAY MY TITHE. AND DO IT PROUDLY.

Brilliant online critics, kill yourselves.
Bros, you got it right and this is what people want to know and hear but not like treating them.
Everything we do for God should be on the platform of our love for God and not because of evil that will befall us.
The nature of God is love and we did absolutely nothing to receive His love.
Abundant blessings come with equal measure of our giving for God (not only tithe) but God is not an idol that we should be afraid of.
Everything we have access to in Him is not on account of anything we did for Him but by His grace, even though grace is not an excuse not to do our part in earning the blessing but it is first on the account of His grace.
If tithe is the reason for our enrichment then what is responsible for our divine health?

God forbid again that I will not pay tithe, but I'm not doing so because of what God will do or will not do, but on love level.
Law can not hold people for long, but grace and love no one can resist.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by walexbiz(m): 4:23pm On Nov 24, 2017
kirajustice:


https://politicsngr.com/2017/11/24/dont-pay-tithe-permanently-beggar-oyedepo/

Sir, those who corruptly enrich themselves from tithing too are not only beggars but resident landlord in HELLFIRE.

Awon Ole jati Jati
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by lexy2014: 4:24pm On Nov 24, 2017
FaniDan:
OK, do you tithe
I asked u 2 clarify a statement and u are responding with a question. This is ur statement I asked u 2 clarify


"Its just that of recent the devil is out to deceive many through social media"
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by NOETHNICITY(m): 4:26pm On Nov 24, 2017
dhardline:
grin grin grin grin these men are seriously trying to protect their investments. They don't even talk about sins that seek to destroy the eternal soul which is the most important but instead talk about Worldly vanities that will perish with earth every single one of it. What does it profit a man to gain the world and loose his soul? SMH for those being deceived.
if no u nko?

if maga no fall ATM no go dispense

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: 'If You Don't Pay Tithe, You Are Permanently A Beggar' by walexbiz(m): 4:32pm On Nov 24, 2017
The issue of this tithing is now becoming more worrisome due to the fact that people who are suppose to pay roughly 5% tax are evasive but they find easily to pay more than 10% for tithe. Infact it's worrisome to the extent that those who loot still pay tithe from their loot. It's like the God in africa is a recipient of looted funds and yet no corresponding improvement in the lives of the sheeple.

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