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Re: Femi Owolabi: "Pastors Use Tithes And Offerings For Humanity" by koolaid87: 8:20am On Dec 07, 2017 |
If they're not forced to pay tithe. Why would a pastor say if you don't tithe, things will be tight for you. Why would a pastor say people die because they keep more than they earned? That's not a free will when people hear this bullsh1t. It's indoctrination and an act of brainwashing Anyone who says all these so as to increase the tithe income is nothing but a con artist. Why is it hard for anyone of these thieves in suit to explain the proverbial verse, Malachi 3 which states that people are robbing God that it's not the actual congregants that are robing God but the Priest who are meant to deposit part of the tithe to the house of God. Why must it be a secular brother (daddy freeze) who preaches the real tithe to the whole world? Why Is it hard for your supposed men of God to counter his ideology with biblical verses? If what freezes preaches is that people should use their funds to help people in need and help humanity which is the tenet of what Christianity stands for, why are they attacking him? And not support his views? Truth is always the same everywhere and it has come to stay #freethesheeple quote author=divicode post=63032457]These rubbish about anti- tithing is been promoted by church goers (not Christians) and other atheist-like fellows. I have not seen a Church were people are forced to pay tithes. It is purely a free will offering. For people that pays, leave those people alone with their conscience and God. If you don't pay, it is your personal conviction Has any of you ever asked your principal (Boy freeze) who he epp. He paid for somebody's JAMB in 2012, that is probably all he has done in his life time. Meanwhile MFM is providing water, Catholic is feeding both Muslims and Christians at IDP camps. Oyedepo has awarded schilarship to over 2,000 students in 24 months and here you are with your principal boy freeze yearning rubbish on nairaland May sense for all on you all just for once at least[/quote] |
Re: Femi Owolabi: "Pastors Use Tithes And Offerings For Humanity" by PaChukwudi44(m): 8:55am On Dec 07, 2017 |
GoodMuyis: arrant nonsense!!1loads of rubbish.Biblical tithes never invlolved money neither was it paid monthlsy.THe bible clearly stated how tithes were to be paid 22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. 23 [b]Eat [/b]the tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the Lord your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the Lord your God always. 24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away), 25 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God [/b]and rejoice. 27 And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own. 28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns, 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the foreigners, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands to your last comment I will show you where God made the law including tithes obsolete Ehpsesians 2:14-16 Ephesians 2:14-16New International Version (NIV) 14 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 [b]by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, 16 and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. Hebrews 8:7-13 For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. 8 But God found fault with the people and said[b]: “The days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah. 9 It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they did not remain faithful to my covenant, and I turned away from them, declares the Lord. 10 This is the covenant I will establish with the people of Israel after that time, declares the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. 11 No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’ because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest. 12 For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more.”[c] 13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear |
Re: Femi Owolabi: "Pastors Use Tithes And Offerings For Humanity" by koolaid87: 8:57am On Dec 07, 2017 |
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Re: Femi Owolabi: "Pastors Use Tithes And Offerings For Humanity" by PaChukwudi44(m): 8:57am On Dec 07, 2017 |
bionixs: the laws were addressed at the first church council in Jerusalem.Tithing and the entire jewish laws has been done away with.You have refused to abide by the other requirements of the law except vtithing which you have unscripturally modified to become money to be paid to pastors monthly without any scriptural backing.Todays tithing has no biblical basis |
Re: Femi Owolabi: "Pastors Use Tithes And Offerings For Humanity" by PaChukwudi44(m): 8:58am On Dec 07, 2017 |
Kingspin: my friend why should you tell people God asked them to pay tithes when he demanded no such thing.That is criminality of the highest order and must be condemned |
Re: Femi Owolabi: "Pastors Use Tithes And Offerings For Humanity" by koolaid87: 8:59am On Dec 07, 2017 |
streamsofjoy: We have to challenge everything. When it comes to a religious affair, every aspect of it has to be pure, immaculate and pristine. So you agree with a robber that steals but give the dividend to the society. Moralistically, the act of stealing is wrong whether the outcome was spent wisely or not. So the question of the authencity of christians paying tithe shouldn't be trivialized. I personally need someone of faith to counter daddy freeze, if they are convinced that he's preaching blasphemy which I doubt. They've read bible back to back, yet couldn't explain the real Malachi 3 to the people because they knew it would affect their business. #freethesheeple #loveismyreligion 1 Like |
Re: Femi Owolabi: "Pastors Use Tithes And Offerings For Humanity" by bionixs: 9:21am On Dec 07, 2017 |
PaChukwudi44:thanks for your narratives. Does not persuading people massively more important than the salvational message I expect you to be promoting. you get loads of likes because you tell them what they love to hear. Oya start telling them that Jesus saves and one should be born again ,quit sins and lets see how it goes. that is why Christ came and not end tithing. just give it half of the drive you have given to end tithe. if tithing is not sin,let those who believe in it be. it is their money and not by force to pay. to give to God,package your offering and send it to God in heaven. Not paying tithe doesn't take anyone to heaven or make anyone be at peace with God. |
Re: Femi Owolabi: "Pastors Use Tithes And Offerings For Humanity" by RockyEyo(m): 9:30am On Dec 07, 2017 |
Phonefanatic:Oga analyst wehdondere well Like I said before I believe in God, tithing is a command and not open to bargain. What pastor decides to do with it is left to the God that gave the command to handle, I am not a judge when I see the thing I stand to gain from the little I offer as a sacrifice my dear I will do it again and again. Kwantinue to dey analyze, BTW who analyses the demands made by a juju priest on behalf of the gods |
Re: Femi Owolabi: "Pastors Use Tithes And Offerings For Humanity" by anukulapo: 10:10am On Dec 07, 2017 |
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Re: Femi Owolabi: "Pastors Use Tithes And Offerings For Humanity" by Nobody: 11:45am On Dec 07, 2017 |
koolaid87: I cannot overlook the senseless issues raised in your post, I will try and address these stupidity one by one Any pastor can say anything! Are you tied to the Church? Is any body forced to stay in a Church? This is common sense! If a Church is not good for me, I waka! Which one is your own and freeze if I decide to stay? You can chose to attend freeze church, I care less. For me, the church I attend, paying tithes is my problem, not yours. Let me be brainwashed, It has nothing to do with you Have you heard who your master freeze helped? Shhhiiìooor. 1 Like |
Re: Femi Owolabi: "Pastors Use Tithes And Offerings For Humanity" by Emivra(m): 7:38pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
FYI tithing is not for those who don't have. It says 10% of what God has blessed you with. So, how can you give 10% when you have 0%? I wonder hard it is for you to give #10 out of #100. if u give God #10 u still have #90. but you prefer to know what and what is bought with money you say you have given to which is #10 out of #90. and those of you who say Jesus didn't collect money, can you please tell me what Judas Iscariot was stealing from the purse? stones? You say men of God are buying expensive things,30 years ago when they were feeding from hand to mouth, trekking from village to village, when did you ever speak up for them. When did u ever stand up for that pastor u see living in a face me I face u apartment. When there mates we're making money as traders, civil servants, etc, mocking them cause of the Scripture, did you ever stand up for them. OK let's say pastors shouldn't live flamboyant livestlyles, but live comfortable lives, what have you done to make that evangelist living close to you comfortable. Then after years of sun and rain, grass and grace, God has placed them above monetary problems , you dare question their wealth. OK let's say they make money from tithes and offering they don't have other jobs. so in the field God has called them they are established. How much has Mr. Freeze accomplised as an OAP. Oyedepo saw it as an insult to give GOD 10% so he gives God 90%. So how hard can giving God 10% be? |
Re: Femi Owolabi: "Pastors Use Tithes And Offerings For Humanity" by koolaid87: 8:19pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
Go back and read your first post.. You said people are not forced...if not forced, why would oyedepo and his co fraudster say those words; condemning people who don't tithe, putting them in some kind of fear...if you're sane enough, you will know it's indirectly FORCING people. Why must all their preaching evolves around seeds, tithe And offering? How many time you see catholic church, masturbating on tithe issue? I wouldn't have responded to a wretch like you, but just to clear your remark that they don't force, they do when they use such negative words on people. Okay? Bye divicode: |
Re: Femi Owolabi: "Pastors Use Tithes And Offerings For Humanity" by Nobody: 9:16pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
koolaid87: I wonder why they call that thing common sense when obviously a lot of people like you lack it If you know the person you are discussing with, you wouldn't have typed 8th rubbish you typed I don't blame you I blame tecno You will remain poor for ever |
Re: Femi Owolabi: "Pastors Use Tithes And Offerings For Humanity" by Kingspin(m): 10:06pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
PaChukwudi44:Then learn how to leave whose people who love to give. There are people like giving natural... For me given is between me, my conscious and God I believe... So, pleases don't extend your view to those people who love giving generally.. After-all giving is not by FORCE or by GUN. You can educate people on how to or what you feel, see as given but don't generalise it.. |
Re: Femi Owolabi: "Pastors Use Tithes And Offerings For Humanity" by Nobody: 4:37am On Dec 08, 2017 |
koolaid87: I can see how pain you are my son. Stop whining, go and play with sand. Go back to the gutter where you belong Dan bansa Remain poor forever |
Re: Femi Owolabi: "Pastors Use Tithes And Offerings For Humanity" by gwama: 5:45pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
This story of tithing and offrande begins to tire us, after the very clear statement of Daddy Freezy, every Christian must feel free, for Jesus and for all Christian, the practice of compassion is more important than tithing. |
Re: Femi Owolabi: "Pastors Use Tithes And Offerings For Humanity" by KingSango(m): 10:21pm On Dec 08, 2017 |
KingSango: Abeg, There is no Jesus Christ. Your tithes are sent to Rome as the Pastors are Freemasons who pay their share of the pot to their lords over them at the Lodge. 1 Share
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Re: Femi Owolabi: "Pastors Use Tithes And Offerings For Humanity" by Nobody: 8:38pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
That is not enough reason to justify tithe. They should use another means of raising money for humanity. Tithe is definitely not that means. It is a Judaist tradition for the Jews and not for the Christians. |
Re: Femi Owolabi: "Pastors Use Tithes And Offerings For Humanity" by kolawoleibukun1: 8:46pm On May 08, 2018 |
is huspuppi not a human being? is he not better than the rapist pastors and criminals robbing people in the name of tithe? salvation101: |
Re: Femi Owolabi: "Pastors Use Tithes And Offerings For Humanity" by Nobody: 8:48pm On May 08, 2018 |
kolawoleibukun1:u wey no dey pay tithe, can u afford a tecno tab? No b itel u dey use |
Re: Femi Owolabi: "Pastors Use Tithes And Offerings For Humanity" by kolawoleibukun1: 8:51pm On May 08, 2018 |
ode day try to console herself. were u raped as a child? why are u supporting rapists? salvation101: |
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