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Re: Akunyili: I’m Loyal To President Yar’adua: I’m Loyal To Nigeria by Kobojunkie: 1:39am On Apr 02, 2010 |
otele:I have absolutely no intensions to fight the establishment as you so believe. otele: I believe the only fight needed in this is to fight ignorance amongst the people. Once we free ourselves from the current prevalent mindset, only then will we realize that we have been the power behind the so-called establishment. The only power these people have is the power WE give them. And not until we realize this and start changing the way we continue to bolster their works against us will we see real change. otele: I ask you the same question I asked everyone else who CLAIMS to know what she OPENED up on. What did Dora do? What exactly did she SAY? I read the letter she read to the nation and it is so obvious that all she is doing exactly what she did back some days before which is write that a demand be put on Yar adua to write a letter to move power to Jonathan, something that should have been demanded of him before the 14th day of his leave. NOTHING MORE!!! I read that letter over and over and wondered what in the world she REVEALED or SAID that got people all riled up. And the more I read it, the more I realize that it is possibly the case that we are too much in need of a messiah, and spend little time investigating those that come by. otele: I don’t think this is an attack. I have SIMPLY reviewed her work by her OWN record. If your boss calls you in for a review, do you also consider it an attack on you by your boss? I would doubt you would. I did not make up anything about the woman, neither have I told anyone that I HATE HER or that I have a thing against her. I just want someone who claims she did well to show me, following her record, what work this was. If you want, I can repost her letter to her colleagues and yar adua for you to re-read. By my standards, she is no different from the 41 you mention, so I feel no need to attack them even as I feel no need to attack her. Only wanting to understand why we would RE-HIRE her as a Minister after her appalling record as a Minister. |
Re: Akunyili: I’m Loyal To President Yar’adua: I’m Loyal To Nigeria by Kobojunkie: 1:47am On Apr 02, 2010 |
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Re: Akunyili: I’m Loyal To President Yar’adua: I’m Loyal To Nigeria by otele(m): 10:45pm On Apr 02, 2010 |
Kobojunkie:the establishment will not leave without a fight. it has never happened in history. find out people used to say, knowledge is power, but today we now know that applied knowledge is power. it is not enough to inform people. it will take a fight, and it will be costly, may involve blood or some other resource. what will you contribute to this fight. RFLMAO cannot change nigeria. you need to get out of your laptop and do something. what will you do? elections will be rigged unless someone tries to stop them, and it will be bloody. what would you do? (not RFLMAO) well, it should have been demanded by the 14th day but it wasnt. nobody did so, and the nation kept derailing and nobody had the decency to do so. perhaps if you had left the US as a great nigerian patriot that you are, and walked boldly to the national assembly, NTA and AIT et al, perhaps it may have triggered something positive. but you didnt. and the nation kept derailing, and the 150 million cowards we had then did nothing. they waited on God for a messiah . . . and finally someone spoke up . . better late than never. since our wise patriots from america could not leave their laptops, the 150 million weak naijans had to appreciate the late ''heroine'' they saw. whay debunk their appreciation? i didnt say you hate her, neither do i recommend her re-appointment. like i said, i have issues with the role she played in the last 3 yrs. i hate this debate bc it makes it look like i'm defending this woman. however, can i ask you a few questions? . . . . |
Re: Akunyili: I’m Loyal To President Yar’adua: I’m Loyal To Nigeria by otele(m): 10:52pm On Apr 02, 2010 |
which of the members of the FEC including president yaradua and acting president jonathan and all the ministers past and present do you like? and why? if you like none of them, and you feel they are running down this country, do you think you can change the country from nairaland? nairaland is a forum, people come here to exchange ideas. infact people come here to display their ideas. it is rare for anyone here to change his/her mind from a debate in the forum. what really do you recommend, for yourself, to change nigeria. in other words what would you do? dont tell me you want to educate people bc from what i see in this forum you can only express urself not influence others. i have seen nigerians march in abuja and lagos. perhaps not good enough, but people are trying. that is the message. some peeps are doing something. wether they did it late or not is a different matter. but to sit in front of a computer and complain and grumble and abuse and roflmaoing up and down. it aint gonna do naija no good men. |
Re: Akunyili: I’m Loyal To President Yar’adua: I’m Loyal To Nigeria by Kobojunkie: 10:56pm On Apr 02, 2010 |
otele:I believe we have discussed on the very same before now and I tried even then to explain to you that I do not view the establishment as you do. In my view, the establishment is made up of the millions, almost 150 of them, of Nigerians who continue to condone and ALLOW what we have today. They are the establishment to me. otele:I think you missed the key in your own post above. KNOWLEDGE is still NECESSARY. As long as the people are not well INFORMED, there will be no such thing as POWER no matter what they apply. otele:I think I told you this sometime ago. Do not worry about my fight, worry about what YOU have to bring to the table. Don’t go around telling people what GOD wants them to do. Do what God wants YOU to do in the situation, and let others do what the same has them to do in their own. You do not go around telling people it ought to be ACCORDING TO YOU. That, to me is mistake number one. otele: Elections are not rigged by Phantoms. They are rigged by ORDINARY Nigerians on the most Part. Remember Ekiti? Who rigged the elections? The leaders did not carry off the buckets to go rig them; ordinary ekitians did that. Ordinary people posing as touts did that, and will continue to do it as long as they think and believe it does not affect them or harm them. otele: Someone Spoke up about what thought? What did she speak up on? That she wanted the FEC to ensure the president had another year in office, and so it should illegally install an Acting President RATHER than obeying the courts call to remove the President and install his VP as President instead? What speaking out are you referring to? Did you bother reading the letter above? otele:I am not saying you are defending her, I am simply asking that you OBJECTIVELY read the letter for which she was labeled a hero for. You claim she spoke out, how about you at least LEARN what it is you claim she spoke out for? For the constitution to be obeyed? WRONG, because her letter outlines that she encouraged the ILLEGAL installation of an Acting President, even when the Constitution is clear that the only time that can happen is if there is permission from the sitting president for that to happen. She REFUSED to obey the courts demand, which would have been constitutional. She spoke out so Yar adua can be guaranteed another year as PRESIDENT even from his bed, wherever in the world that is? I am only asking that you READ and LEARN of what happened in your own country to better understand where the bulk of the problem is coming from. |
Re: Akunyili: I’m Loyal To President Yar’adua: I’m Loyal To Nigeria by Kobojunkie: 11:03pm On Apr 02, 2010 |
otele:I don’t associate the word like to politicians. I critic their works to decide which I would vote for or not vote for, SIMPLE! They are, to me, my employees. They are either doing a good job or NOT, that is all. otele:You sure about that? I think you are very wrong. Anyways, like I said earlier, I rather we focus on using Nairaland as we want. Some believe it can be an avenue with which to reach others or like mind, others feel it is just a forum and nothing more. While so many have been able to influence others just by being active on here. I think you should instead focus on YOUR OWN change Nigeria idea and leave others to theirs. I believe I told you of my stance before now. otele:Like I said, I am not here to be a messiah for anyone. Neither have I told you I am here to SAVE NIGERIA. All I am here to do is what I have done for so long, if you don’t like it, I cannot help it. I do believe that to change Nigeria, Nigerians need to have a change of mind, and I personally have no push to want to go out to change every mind out there but I do like to debate and argue on issues on here, enjoy it and see myself continuing to do that for some time to come. |
Re: Akunyili: I’m Loyal To President Yar’adua: I’m Loyal To Nigeria by otele(m): 11:29pm On Apr 02, 2010 |
when i asked which politician you like, i actually meant which ones you think are doing a good job. i guess none. it may interest you to know that elections dont count in nigeria. so all ur talk of voting for someone is absolute idiocy and a nasty display of your overt ignorance with regards to the nigerian political terrain. the way it is now, something drastic may have to happen before we have a sound electoral system. i believe once we have sound elections, nigerians will then have the power and it will be obvious that the majority of nigerians are not as ignorant as you think. Kobojunkie:you've said it all . . you are just comfortable sitting in front of your laptop and posting BS as it pleases you. talk talk talk, criticise, criticise and nothing more. you are just a distraction. no real substance. only a retard would have suggested you are interested in being a messiah for anyone . . . i have no plans to save nigeria either, i really despise a society where thousands of its own citizens are killed and nothing happens, a justice minister is murdered and nothing happens. to hell . . .
phew, i've just wasted my time |
Re: Akunyili: I’m Loyal To President Yar’adua: I’m Loyal To Nigeria by Kobojunkie: 11:44pm On Apr 02, 2010 |
otele:THAT IS NOT TRUE. Please do NOT CONFUSE what I said with YOUR ASSUMPTION up there. Read my POST AS IS. otele:GBAM! Dude, I am not you. I don't want to even THINK AS YOU WANT ME TO. I ENJOY DOING THIS. This is my hobby. If you don’t like that I love to criticize/analyze from where I am , then please MOVE ON. Simple!! |
Re: Akunyili: I’m Loyal To President Yar’adua: I’m Loyal To Nigeria by NDBELOVE: 4:09pm On Apr 05, 2010 |
Thank God 4 those of us who has spoken well of this woman of rare quality, i must tell all Ngerians that Dora is a gift to Nigeria |
Re: Akunyili: I’m Loyal To President Yar’adua: I’m Loyal To Nigeria by ursa: 8:07pm On Apr 08, 2010 |
@kobojunkie wrote GBAM! Dude, I am not you. I don't want to even THINK AS YOU WANT ME TO. I ENJOY DOING THIS. This is my hobby. If you don’t like that I love to criticize/analyze from where I am , then please MOVE ON. Simple!! Use your own words above to greater effect. Dora enjoys what she does, and she would not think as you want her to think. If you do not like what she does then please MOVE ON. Simple!! Can you in future avoid calling people immature if they decide not to agree with you? I prefer we stick to the conversation. !! |
Re: Akunyili: I’m Loyal To President Yar’adua: I’m Loyal To Nigeria by Kobojunkie: 8:14pm On Apr 08, 2010 |
ursa: I have NEVER asked she think as I do, what I have simply done is state that as a Nigerian in a democracy, I believe her record is appalling, which no one has been able to refute so far, and would prefer if we stated facts rather than continue to play the PITY/FORGIVENESS card every time it pleases us. ursa: If you even bothered to read the responses so far you would have realized by now that the only time I refer to any persons as being immature, is when said person resorts to attacking MY PERSON rather than sticking to debating the topic. PERSONAL ATTACKS are immature in any debate. They are usually employed by people who have nothing meaningful to add to a discussion, and are convinced that insulting the other person scores them points to help them win a debate. You can ask those around you for opinions on that if you wish. ot to agree with you? By the way, did you bother reading any of my posts so far? If you did, you would realize that though I go on about the woman's record, I am not ANTI-the woman. I am simply anti-BULL, and since this woman happens to be at the centre of this particular bull argument, her case is mentioned over and over and addressed. [quote][/quote] |
Re: Akunyili: I’m Loyal To President Yar’adua: I’m Loyal To Nigeria by CallmeCHIKE: 4:54am On Jul 26, 2022 |
sjeezy8: Where’s this 1diot now? Fool |
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