Beaf:

I watched the last debate and poor Cameron! He looked like a battered cat most of the show. I can safely predict that he will not be the UK's next PM, its going to be a Gordon or Nick show (except both get silly).

I heard that too and was shocked, but British folk couldn't care less, so its no big deal.

ayettymama:

^^ what are u on abt??

ayettymama:

what u on abt??- who doesnt no how the system works??

snowdrops:

The debate should have never been hosted by sky news. It should have gone to channel 4. They would have been more balanced and the viewer rating more than the 4.4 million we got yesterday with a combined sky news, bbc news and sky 3 coverage.

John Snow would have made a better host than the fat Adam Bolton. Imagine the cheeky question he put to Clegg after deliberately clearing his throat. Asking if he saw the telegraphs attacks on him. Hosts are supposed to be impartial, which is amongst the 73 rules governing the debate.The Lib Derms should put in a complaint.

debosky:

Again a lot of fuss is being made about Sky hosting the debate - it's not that important. The Brits are forever obsessed about 'fairness' but it is really a non-issue in this regard.

I don't see how Sky is 'deciding' who the leads - the issue is that there are many people who support Sky's views and not that Sky is determining their views.

Clegg is already tripping himself up - his naivety is getting more obvious now. Talking of deals and personalising things with GB instead of focussing on his message. The issue will now be twisted by the Conservatives to mean he isn't quite decided on what he intends to do, which is their main grouse with coalition governments.

If he fails to get back on his main message, he will lose the little momentum he has.

Sky is not bn fair at all, d reportinng show they are biased, when a labour candidate was suspended for calling old people coffin dodgers on Twitter, it top on the Sky but when a conservative party councillor attacked John Prescott, it was not top of their news, it was reported, but comp

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@ Debosky

Skys coverage of the election is reminiscent of what Fox did in the states leading to their election. There has been a clear bias towards the conservatives and their policies. I guess no ones surprised judging by Murdochs open declation for the tories.

Sky cannot decide who wins but they along with their sister press hold a huge sway with the british public. The discerning are becoming wary of what they are fed by the right wing media and pick out what is FACT from mere SCARE MONGERING, HALF TRUTHS and PROPAGANDA.

snowdrops:

@ Debosky

Skys coverage of the election is reminiscent of what Fox did in the states leading to their election. There has been a clear bias towards the conservatives and their policies. I guess no ones surprised judging by Murdochs open declation for the tories.

Sky cannot decide who wins but they along with their sister press hold a huge sway with the british public. The discerning are becoming wary of what they are fed by the right wing media and pick out what is FACT from mere SCARE MONGERING, HALF TRUTHS and PROPAGANDA.

@ snowdrops, well said

debosky:

Again a lot of fuss is being made about Sky hosting the debate - it's not that important. The Brits are forever obsessed about 'fairness' but it is really a non-issue in this regard.

I don't see how Sky is 'deciding' who the leads - the issue is that there are many people who support Sky's views and not that Sky is determining their views.

Clegg is already tripping himself up - his naivety is getting more obvious now. Talking of deals and personalising things with GB instead of focussing on his message. The issue will now be twisted by the Conservatives to mean he isn't quite decided on what he intends to do, which is their main grouse with coalition governments.

If he fails to get back on his main message, he will lose the little momentum he has.

OMO IBO:

So, Labour under Gordon brown finally blew it. . . . . .that is if they had any chance?

Did Murdoch and sky put the final boot in Gordon Brown's backside? I'm beginning to think so.

The microphone on Gordon's tie was Sky's.
The Mic should've been turned off the moment he got into the car.
The speed at which the news or gaffe spread was alarming.

Although I wasn't close to a TV when it happened I would've loved to see how long it took other TV stations to pick up the gaffe.

Futhermore, I see nothing wrong in what Gordon Brown muttered under his own breathe and in a car.

People need to get a real life. Just because someone is a public figure does not mean they seize to have an opinion.

What say youz lot, . . .

Has Murdoch won this one?

thameamead:



Its going to be a hung parliament with the tories having about 279 MP's. Did u all know Nigerian born Kemi Adegoke who sadly is a tory is standing for the Dulwich seat. She's a tough cookie, ve read a couple of her letters to The Evening Standard, I would like to know her stance on immigration, she probably thinks their should be a cap, Hmmm

ElRazur:

I don't know about you guys, but the more I read about people here opposing tougher stance on immigration, the more I am forced to think these people do not have papers and as such have something to hide.

I support cap immigration, I support enforced tough stance towards illegal immigration. In fact, any one illegal should be hunted down and removed.  Get the correct papers, come here, work and there won't be a problem.

snowdrops:

So white British people who oppose a cap on immigration also lack papers? Surely you can do better than that ElRazur.

Like Nick said yesterday, 80% of immigrants to the UK are from the EU. Therefore you cannot stop them from coming here or place a cap on their numbers. Just as you cannot do same for UK citizens going to mainland europe. Cameron will say anything to get into power. He promises to cut net immigration to below 100,000. That is silly and unrealistic based on the points above.

So ElRazur, dont deceive yourself, even if you have papers, you are still counted as an immigrant and the typical man on the street would gladly wish you and your family leave their country. As Nick Griffin said, he will give you £50,000 to go back to your country.

Freiburger:

I really do not know why people get worked when immigration is been discussed. If you have the right papers, please come here but if you don't no point.

I wonder. As if the whole election is all about immigration.
Well, i'm not from the UK but i 've been taking a close watch on
the election, and i think the Lib dem leader will ermerge
as the next PM since the polls signifies a tight race, and Gordon Brown
just revealed he can't be trusted by calling a labour voter a bigoted woman
few moments after a friendly and normal conversation.
So i think every potential labour voter who got angry from that will not go that far
voting the conservatives, they will simply end up voting the lib dem.
But another thing is that the Nick Clegg's position on immigration is somehow too porus,
and that might affect him in swing areas presently controlled by the conservatives.

snowdrops:

So white British people who oppose a cap on immigration also lack papers? Surely you can do better than that ElRazur.

Like Nick said yesterday, 80% of immigrants to the UK are from the EU. Therefore you cannot stop them from coming here or place a cap on their numbers. Just as you cannot do same for UK citizens going to mainland europe. Cameron will say anything to get into power. He promises to cut net immigration to below 100,000. That is silly and unrealistic based on the points above.

Freiburger:



I wonder. As if the whole election is all about immigration.
Well, i'm not from the UK but i 've been taking a close watch on
the election, and i think the Lib dem leader will ermerge
as the next PM since the polls signifies a tight race, and Gordon Brown
just revealed he can't be trusted by calling a labour voter a bigoted woman
few moments after a friendly and normal conversation.
So i think every potential labour voter who got angry from that will not go that far
voting the conservatives, they will simply end up voting the lib dem.
But another thing is that the Nick Clegg's position on immigration is somehow too porus,
and that might affect him in swing areas presently controlled by the conservatives.

debosky:

Where is the information showing 80% of immigrants are from the EU? Besides, as those EU countries get better, immigration from them will reduce. The unending flow of immigrants will continue to come from the third world.

371,000 study permits were given in 2008/09, with about 140,000 renewing per year, many only intending to become immigrants rather than really wanting to leave at the end of their stay. Those numbers are there and cannot be denied.

Besides, the estimated 1 million illegal immigrants in the UK are not from the EU.

snowdrops:

@ ElRazur

We are not having an arguement about immigration. I am not worked up about it. Also i am a MR not a Madam

Australias point based system cannot be applied for EU nationals. If the UK were to do that, it means they would have to pull out of the EU their biggest trading partner. 2 million jobs will be lost and billions of pounds would leave their economy. And i can bet my testicles that would never happen.

The BNP dont care about your British passport. Their brain only picks up skin colour, whether you are white or not white. I detest them as well, but i want you to realize that immigration to some is about preserving a white identity for britain.