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Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by hakeem4(m): 6:51pm On Dec 30, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


It is a theistic religion that deifies the black man sort of . The adherents claim that the black man is God personified .

From my understanding , it's more of a movement that attempts to elevate the status or image of the black man that has been tarnished by the white man .
thanks .. happy new year in advance
Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:53pm On Dec 30, 2017
superhumanist:



1. Time does not exist

2. No one truly knows the origin of the universe. Man can't tell you what happened 1000 years ago without bias, then it is millions of years that he can?

You keep mentioning origin yet you don't see that when something begins to exist, then we can talk of how long (time) it has existed or has been existing .
Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:55pm On Dec 30, 2017
hakeem4:
thanks .. happy new year in advance

Happy new year in advance to you too
Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by dalaman: 8:00pm On Dec 30, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


God is an alien who is transcendent and immaterial . Other aliens are material beings who are denizens of this universe

God is outside the universe? What does that mean? How is God outside the universe yet interact with people inside the universe? Which medium does he use? So God is immaterial but created a material universe?
Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:16pm On Dec 30, 2017
dalaman:


God is outside the universe? What does that mean? How is God outside the universe yet interact with people inside the universe? Which medium does he use? So God is immaterial but created a material universe?


God is everywhere .

There are so many perspectives of this which I don't want to go into. Eg From an idealist perspective, there is no such thing as matter(matter does not exist ) just minds(mental/non-physical ) and their ideas . So all that exists are just ideas in the mind of God .

And for interaction, there are so many perspectives. Eg A pandeist believes that communication among conscious beings is a form of interaction with the divine . Another one is that God interacts through theophanies (divine manifestation of Itself in material form eg burning bush in the bible, a bright light during Paul's conversion on his journey to Damascus. ) .

God can also interact through our sub conscious which is seen as intermediary between our finite minds and the universal mind/infinite intelligence /God . And we can draw knowledge from it through practices like meditation etc

The immaterial God can also communicate to us though our spirit (our true self ) which is immaterial as It is .

There are so many ways to look at it .
Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by awesomeJ(m): 8:59pm On Dec 30, 2017
Seun:
If the idea that we exist without having been created by a person implies that our existence is by accident, then the idea that God exists without having been created by a person implies that God’s existence is by accident too

The fact that Someone created something doesn't imply He Himself was created. If it did, then why would you still doubt that man who creates several things from phones to airplanes to robots and super computer has a Creator.

God is the creator of mankind. it's His creative nature that men manifest when they build and develop stuffs. However, He Himself has no creator. If you could imagine someone who would be His creator, that person will yet be Him-God. He and He alone is the very very very very beginning of all things and he himself has no beginning. It may be difficult for you to fathom how Someone could possibly exist without a beginning, but when you leave this earthly realm, you will understand better. You know, there are things in the civilized world for instance, that would be difficult for a human who lives in one of the most primitive african villages to imagine, because the realm he lives in does largely limit his imaginations.
Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by adepeter2027(m): 9:13pm On Dec 30, 2017
awesomeJ:


The fact that Someone created something doesn't imply He Himself was created. If it did, then why would you still doubt that man who creates several things from phones to airplanes to robots and super computer has a Creator.

God is the creator of mankind. it's His creative nature that men manifest when they build and develop stuffs. However, He Himself has no creator. If you could imagine someone who would be His creator, that person will yet be Him-God. He and He alone is the very very very very beginning of all things and he himself has no beginning. It may be difficult for you to fathom how Someone could possibly exist without a beginning, but when you leave this earthly realm, you will understand better. You know, there are things in the civilized world for instance, that would be difficult for a human who lives in one of the most primitive african villages to imagine, because the realm he lives in does largely limit his imaginations.
You're funny ooo.

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Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:19pm On Dec 30, 2017
Seun:
If the idea that we exist without having been created by a person implies that our existence is by accident, then the idea that God exists without having been created by a person implies that God’s existence is by accident too.


God being uncreated means his existence is by accident? The fact that God is UNCAUSED proves his existence isn't by accident . Accidents are EVENTS CAUSED but not deliberately.

There was no EVENT prior to the existence of God so God's existence cannot be an accident . The beginning of the universe was the First (temporal) event ever to occur . Events occur or lead to existence and relate with time. God's existence isn't associated with any EVENT.

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Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by dalaman: 9:43pm On Dec 30, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


God is everywhere .

There are so many perspectives of this which I don't want to go into. Eg From an idealist perspective, there is no such thing as matter(matter does not exist ) just minds(mental/non-physical ) and their ideas . So all that exists are just ideas in the mind of God .

And for interaction, there are so many perspectives. Eg A pandeist believes that communication among conscious beings is a form of interaction with the divine . Another one is that God interacts through theophanies (divine manifestation of Itself in material form eg burning bush in the bible, a bright light during Paul's conversion on his journey to Damascus. ) .

God can also interact through our sub conscious which is seen as intermediary between our finite minds and the universal mind/infinite intelligence /God . And we can draw knowledge from it through practices like meditation etc

The immaterial God can also communicate to us though our spirit (our true self ) which is immaterial as It is .

There are so many ways to look at it .

Can you see what you are doing? You seem not to be sure of what you are saying, you are just throwing what ever it is that is out there at me. It doesn't work that way pls.
Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:28pm On Dec 30, 2017
dalaman:


Can you see what you are doing? You seem not to be sure of what you are saying, you are just throwing what ever it is that is out there at me. It doesn't work that way pls.

I showed you ways from the bible and outside the bible. It's not confusion , it's open-mindedness .

And idealism whoops materialism's ass big time. And I'm looking at it with one eye o . I haven't gotten deep knowledge to declare myself as an idealist. Maybe ... who knows

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Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by JackBizzle: 7:36am On Dec 31, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


I showed you ways from the bible and outside the bible. It's not confusion , it's open-mindedness .

And idealism whoops materialism's ass big time. And I'm looking at it with one eye o . I haven't gotten deep knowledge to declare myself as an idealist. Maybe ... who knows

Little did Ebuka know that "idealist" is an insult.
Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by superhumanist(m): 2:48pm On Dec 31, 2017
felixomor:


To make matters worse, the page even asks a rhetorical question
Not a statement.

You are just foolish.
Sorry to say.

Next time, research before typing nonsense.

So you read the title and just concluded nonsense?

The article gave three reasons why time doesnt exist

1. Time has no materiality or physical manifestation. We cant see, touch, smell or feel time

2. Time is just a mental thing- an intuition

3. Time is just a concept of measurement. The clock exists but the time itself does not.


cc kingebukasblog and butterflyl1on, come and carry this your mumu friend.
Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by superhumanist(m): 2:55pm On Dec 31, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


You keep mentioning origin yet you don't see that when something begins to exist, then we can talk of how long (time) it has existed or has been existing .

Ogbeni, the universe is not like other things. This is why deists call it "God".

The universe has no true beginning.
Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by yellow237(m): 3:29pm On Dec 31, 2017
Neymar1095:
Christians claims an
omniscient God created man and woman
and put them in a Garden. He gave them
everything but a sense of right and
wrong. He planted a tree in the center of
the garden and made it bear beautifully
attractive fruit knowing (since he is all
knowing) that they would eat it. And
when they did just what he had planned
(since he is omnipotent, and he gave them
no sense of right and wrong) he was
stunned. Never saw that coming. His
whole wonderful plan was spoiled and he
had to put a taint of original sin that they
couldn't know was sin (they did not
know good from evil) on them that would
be passed down to their children
throughout all the generations and he
would have to torture all of them in
eternal, unimaginable suffering, because
he loves them all. But then he hatched a
plan to send himself down to earth and
impregnate a woman with himself so he
could sacrifice himself to himself to take
away the taint of sin caused when a
talking snake convinced the woman to eat
the magic fruit and give some to her man.



Swallow all that and you are left to deal
with the fact that there were people living
all around the Earth, but even though this
God character LOVES all his children and
wants them all to have a personal
relationship with him, it somehow slipped
his omniscient mind to announce
anything about his grand plan to anyone
living outside a tiny area around the
Mediterranean Sea for centuries, so
billions lived and died in far off lands
never even hearing about this Jesus they
must accept. And to make matters worse,
instead of just showing up on Earth and
revealing himself, his great plan to
redeem us all was to hide so well he is
totally undetectable. When something is
entirely undetectable and we can't even
measure its influence on other things,
there is really no difference between its
existence and non-existence.
y not foolishly take this ur trade to the Muslim section and tell them there is no God,am sure the will answer u better
Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by yellow237(m): 3:32pm On Dec 31, 2017
Seun:
If we are too complex to exist by accident, then surely God is also too complex to exist by accident.
seun u too take ur foolishness to the Muslim section,am sure they will answer u well abi? u better grow up b4 tomorrow.the year is abt to end.
Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by superhumanist(m): 3:35pm On Dec 31, 2017
ScienceWatch:
NASSA HAS FOUND NO-GOD ON MARS !!!

Now Atheists will happily colonize mars.
NASSA has kept their search for god under wraps by lying to the public that they were searching for Aliens.
They presented scientific evidence to Atheists to prove that NO-god rules planet Mars. Mars has no Ozone layer, no water, no plants, no, animals or birds. The soil is dangerous and corrosive.

Many doubtful Atheists needed more evidence and asked if Mars had oxygen. Scientists came back to them and proved that Mars indeed had no oxygen. The Atheists were elated, happy for the first time, because of the long awaited conclusive proof that a creator God does not exist on Mars.

Atheists will colonize Mars and live in Space suits to be near their NO-god. They will continue to troll religious topics from Mars.





You sound like kingebukasblog on weed.....oshogbo weed
Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by felixomor: 3:37pm On Dec 31, 2017
superhumanist:


So you read the title and just concluded nonsense?

The article gave three reasons why time doesnt exist

1. Time has no materiality or physical manifestation. We cant see, touch, smell or feel time

2. Time is just a mental thing- an intuition

3. Time is just a concept of measurement. The clock exists but the time itself does not.


cc kingebukasblog and butterflyl1on, come and carry this your mumu friend.

To tell u how foolish you are

Here are the first three lines from your own article;
Quoted verbatim and with attention on the bolded;

We've been taught that time and space exist. They're real. And that reality has been reinforced everyday of our life—every time we go from here to there, every time we reach for something, every month we pay the bills.



CANT YOU SEE THAT YOU ARE FOOOLISH?
Even your article says you are fooolish. They are real.
RECEIVE SENSE undecided

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Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:27pm On Dec 31, 2017
superhumanist:


Ogbeni, the universe is not like other things. This is why deists call it "God".

Words of an ignorant person . Shut up and educate yourself . Deists don't call the universe God . Some of the pantheists who believe the universe is everything call it God . Even the pandeist believes that God transformed into the universe . The panendeist believes the universe is part of the Divine but the divine does not intervene in it .

The universe has no true beginning.

Please stop embarrassing yourself with this stupid talk .
Mention me when you have something reasonable to share

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Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by superhumanist(m): 9:17pm On Dec 31, 2017
felixomor:


To tell u how foolish you are

Here are the first three lines from your own article;
Quoted verbatim and with attention on the bolded;

We've been taught that time and space exist. They're real. And that reality has been reinforced everyday of our life—every time we go from here to there, every time we reach for something, every month we pay the bills.



CANT YOU SEE THAT YOU ARE FOOOLISH?
Even your article says you are fooolish. They are real.
RECEIVE SENSE undecided

You only read the first two paragraphs and concluded without reading the whole article? Mumu is not good oo

Even what you quoted shows that you can't reason. The first part of what you quoted from the article (the sentence before the bold) saying that the existence of time is what we are taught. But is everything thing we are taught true? The article later goes out to point 3 different arguments against the existence of time.

You just want to play silly. There are millions of reputable articles pointing out how time does not exist.

Please continue in ignorance.
Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by superhumanist(m): 9:24pm On Dec 31, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Words of an ignorant person . Shut up and educate yourself . Deists don't call the universe God . Some of the pantheists who believe the universe is everything call it God . Even the pandeist believes that God transformed into the universe . The panendeist believes the universe is part of the Divine but the divine does not intervene in it .



Please stop embarrassing yourself with this stupid talk .
Mention me when you have something reasonable to share

Pandeism is a form of deism that encompasses pantheism. Deism is more of an umbrella term.

But let's not derail the original point with your ignorance.


The universe has no beginning. The big bang cannot be the beginning because it can be argued that the big bang is still the universe (in its raw form).


Also remember that time doesn't exist.

The future of our universe is infinite- something CV will always exist. Same with the past- something always existed......this is to say that time still gives a paradox that leads us to no beginning of the universe.
Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by felixomor: 10:19pm On Dec 31, 2017
superhumanist:


You only read the first two paragraphs and concluded without reading the whole article? Mumu is not good oo

Even what you quoted shows that you can't reason. The first part of what you quoted from the article (the sentence before the bold) saying that the existence of time is what we are taught. But is everything thing we are taught true? The article later goes out to point 3 different arguments against the existence of time.

You just want to play silly. There are millions of reputable articles pointing out how time does not exist.

Please continue in ignorance.



Oh so u came to argue what we are taught?
I thought u were going to quote what we were taught when u started?

Idiort undecided

Besides, read again.
The third line says
"The reality has been reinforced"


What a pity! grin
Even your own article is flushing out your foolishness in public. Face the reality.

Next time, research before typing rubbish.
And when u are exposed. Take correction.
Dont hang on to proud ignorance.

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Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by superhumanist(m): 11:12pm On Dec 31, 2017
felixomor:


Oh so u came to argue what we are taught?
I thought u were going to quote what we were taught when u started?

Idiort undecided

Besides, read again.
The third line says
"The reality has been reinforced"


What a pity! grin
Even your own article is flushing out your foolishness in public. Face the reality.

Next time, research before typing rubbish.
And when u are exposed. Take correction.
Dont hang on to proud ignorance.



What is this one saying?

Is the article saying that time exists? Mumu is not good.
Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by felixomor: 11:17pm On Dec 31, 2017
superhumanist:




What is this one saying?

Is the article saying that time exists? Mumu is not good.
Sharrap and swallow your ignorance.
Your article calls time and space "reality"...

Keep fooling yourself.

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Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by superhumanist(m): 11:39pm On Dec 31, 2017
felixomor:

Sharrap and swallow your ignorance.
Your article calls time and space "reality"...

Keep fooling yourself.
.
Thousands of articles on Google show that time doesn't exist. Happy New year. May foolishness not be your portion in 2018
Re: How Do People Even Believe In Christianity When It Seems Like A Fairy Tale. by ScienceWatch: 10:19am On Jan 01, 2018
felixomor:


Oh so u came to argue what we are taught?
I thought u were going to quote what we were taught when u started?

Idiort undecided

Besides, read again.
The third line says
"The reality has been reinforced"


What a pity! grin
Even your own article is flushing out your foolishness in public. Face the reality.

Next time, research before typing rubbish.
And when u are exposed. Take correction.
Dont hang on to proud ignorance.

Felixomor, I note with respect and admiration that you have revealed the true weakness of Atheism. Why is Superhumanist doing this to you? The Reality is now reinforced. Atheism is dying.

The Atheists cruel mission to destroy the Holy Scriptures was dwelt a serious blow after God launched Emmanuel TV for the whole world to witness scientifically verifiable evidence of the truth about all the mind-blowing promises that Jesus Christ made more than two thousand years ago. Thank God there are many other ways to get proof of this across the globle.

Jesus instantly gives new hearts, instantly cures terminal stage 4 cancer, instantly heals broken bones and other problems for FREE. Doctors are flocking for their own instantaneous healing. They bring their patients for instant healing. Despite the threats to their medical careers, these honest Doctors testify live to the world about the most effective solutions only Jesus offer humanity.

IN STARK CONTRAST TO ALL THIS, ATHEISM OFFERS TO INCREASE HUMANITIES SUFFERING AND CONFUSION.

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