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Re: My Boyfriend Is An Atheist. I Love Him But My Family And Friends Hate Him. Help by truly: 7:32pm On May 15, 2010
frosbel:



Sure, we know that Islam treats its women with very high regard




Tabari IX:113  "Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur'an."



Bukhari:V3B48N826  "The Prophet said, 'Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?' The women said, 'Yes.' He said, 'This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind.'"



Ishaq:584 "Tell the men with you who have wives: never trust a woman."



Ishaq:185 "In hell I saw women hanging by their bosoms. They had fathered bastards."


Muslim:B1N142  "'O womenfolk, you should ask for forgiveness for I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell.' A wise lady said: Why is it, Allah's Apostle, that women comprise the bulk of the inhabitants of Hell? The Prophet observed: 'You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouses. You lack common sense, fail in religion and rob the wisdom of the wise.' Upon this the woman remarked: What is wrong with our common sense? The Prophet replied, 'Your lack of common sense can be determined from the fact that the evidence of two women is equal to one man. That is a proof.'"
Sorry, Sir: which Ishaq are you quoting?

From the Bible - so let us not confuse liberal movement with christainity or christian values
"Say to the Israelites, 'If a man dies and leaves no son, turn his inheritance over to his daughter, '"
Numbers 27:8

let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law, and if they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for woman to speak in the church."
1 Corinthians 14:34-35

"When a woman has her regular flow of blood, the impurity of her monthly period will last seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean till evening. anything she lies on during her period will be unclean, and anything she sits on will be unclean. Whoever touches her bed must wash his clothes and bathe with water, and he will be unclean till evening. Whoever touches anything she sits on must wash his clothes and bathe with water, and he will be unclean till evening. Whether it is the bed or anything she was sitting on, when anyone touches it, he will be unclean till evening."
Leviticus 15:19-23

"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything."
(Ephesians 5:22-24)

"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression."
(I Timothy 2:11-14)

"For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man."
(I Corinthians 11:8-9)

"Give me any plague, but the plague of the heart: and any wickedness, but the wickedness of a woman."
(Eccles. 25:13)

"A shameless [/b]woman shall be counted as a [b]dog; but she that is shamefaced will fear the Lord."
(Eccles.26:25)

"Of the woman came the beginning of sin, and through her we all die."
(Eccles. 25:22)
Re: My Boyfriend Is An Atheist. I Love Him But My Family And Friends Hate Him. Help by tEsLim(m): 10:41pm On Oct 30, 2010
Nothing is wrong with your fiancee. Moreover the bible is just a story book. Quite interesting book but becomes boring and repetitive multiple chapters talk about the same thing in contradictory manner. I read it inside out twice. Not a bad read. And I still study some of the mythology till today. Its fascinating
Re: My Boyfriend Is An Atheist. I Love Him But My Family And Friends Hate Him. Help by timmy7(m): 4:01pm On Oct 31, 2010
^^^^
which zoo were you released from? Last reply April cheesy
Re: My Boyfriend Is An Atheist. I Love Him But My Family And Friends Hate Him. Help by harakiri(m): 2:56pm On Jan 19, 2011
Our people can be so shallow minded. A lot of them (including a cavalry of posters here) have already labelled the poor guy as an "evil satanist". When will we grow up from this "it's a must that we must all serve something" mentality? Like they say, people fear what they cannot understand and hate what they cannot conquer.

@Poster

I know that this post isn't fresh but i'll still drop a few pointers. This guy of yours sounds very much like me both in character and physique (i almost thought it was my woman that posted this when i started reading. . .lol). The only person i feel sorry for is the guy coz i can relate to what he's going through especially in our ever backward minded society where religion is rated before ethics and morals. Being religious doesn't make anyone a better person. It all boils down to the choices we make. After all, the armed robbers, kidnappers and ritualists are all "religious people" and always blame the devil after they have killed innocent people.Same with our corrupt leaders who loot the treasury with careless abandon and ask us to pray for the nation.

That being said, you have a choice to make. You can either go against your parents wishes and marry this man or break up the relationship and live the rest of your life in regrets. Trust me, open minded/honest men like that are rare to find and you will definitely NOT find a religious man which such morals (mark my words). The choice is yours!
Re: My Boyfriend Is An Atheist. I Love Him But My Family And Friends Hate Him. Help by 2good(m): 10:30pm On Jan 19, 2011
Its a pity that the black race and Nigerians especially have been deluded by religion that they forget about morals and other positive attributes of people. I happen to be in a multinational group where out of about 20 people, you can identify atleast 5 different religious groups and they all live in peace because people dont give priority to religion in relating with others in their daily activities. Infact of my 2 best friends, one is an Atheist and the other is Hindu.
The origin of religion can be traced back so it baffles me that people dont read history outside the bible, quaran, etc and believe their god is the all and all about existence where as it all farce. How do U know without opening your mind and reading wide?
The black man never progresses because they believe that without god, they cannot achieve and refuse to plan. But the white man that doesnt believe in god, put all the right things in place because he knows that his tomorrow depends on how well he plans and not the love of god in his life.
Re: My Boyfriend Is An Atheist. I Love Him But My Family And Friends Hate Him. Help by aribisala0(m): 7:23pm On Mar 29, 2011
the solution is simple make you belleful that is make you carry BELLE
Re: My Boyfriend Is An Atheist. I Love Him But My Family And Friends Hate Him. Help by aribisala0(m): 7:50pm On Mar 29, 2011
i agree, the bible is a good read with lots of nice tales that will captivate the african mind. jehovah the jewish deity parted the red sea so his people could walk on dry land then he clossed the sea on their enemies as they pursued
jehovah destroyed all mankind save noah and his family who cruised around in their ship
jehovah rained manna and quails down from heaven for his people for  forty years and gave them water from the rocks
but we have some of our own too oduduwa came down from heaven with a long chain which incidentally is available for inspection at ile-ife. what is the difference they wrote theirs down and called it the word of god and our own?paganism. as long as we believe that we will remain slaves for ever
some indians believe one of their gods had a massive ejaculation(WOW) and that was how it all started
and then there is the bit in the bible about menstruation being a sin requiring  two pigeons each time for forgiveness.
at 10-12 periods a yr dat is 20 pigeons a year x the 300000 women dat came out of egypt and only the sons of aaron moses' brother could sell pigeons.  of course men could not touch their wives until they had paid up so guess what. they paid up fast.
no wonder jesus was so angry when he got to the temple and flogged them all. now all that pigeon selling is over but they had a good run.
maybe there is a is a god maybe there is not who knows but why import this jehovah dude he seems quite blood thirsty to me, there are many good african gods and i dont think they are as greedy as this jehovah
Re: My Boyfriend Is An Atheist. I Love Him But My Family And Friends Hate Him. Help by Peterpan1(m): 11:25am On Oct 18, 2012
Mmh, are you really a christian, cos i don't think you are,"be ye unequally yoked with unbelievers " listen i don't care if he is d best man in the world, without Christ his life is like a sheet of paper, my advice is dat you should'nt marry him,cos if you do i can lay a bet dat in the nxt 5 yrs you would reject God, and to ur church members, if they are nt strong in d scriptures and filled with d HOLY GHOST, they should nt go and preach to an unbeliever,cos they will make you doubt the existence of GOD, And remember "a carnal man cannot understand the things of the spiritual"
Re: My Boyfriend Is An Atheist. I Love Him But My Family And Friends Hate Him. Help by chrisevans(m): 3:55pm On Oct 18, 2012
@peter pan are u kidding me?!!, dis post is over 2 years old. and if she is a wise one, she is married to him at the moment.
Re: My Boyfriend Is An Atheist. I Love Him But My Family And Friends Hate Him. Help by personaldomest(f): 12:08pm On Oct 26, 2012
I have seen some dumb posts here, but I am not going to make that the focus of my reply, stupid people don't anger me( I lied). I have been on nairaland for more than 6 months now and this would be the first post with my comment on it.
I am an atheist, it means I don't believe in what I cannot see, that would include god, the devil, angels, demons, fairies and father christmas.
I have a xtian girlfriend who loves me dearly, and I would do anything for her, she is not so christian anymore, she never really believed in the xtian myth and I guess falling in love with me was the tipping point on that one. So I guess that's where we are a bit different.
When I met her parents I lied about my religion, am not about to walk the path of the guy who first claimed the earth was round.
I think the ball is entirely in your court, I am sure he would not mind acting the part for the time being. If he does, well, I don't know then.
Re: My Boyfriend Is An Atheist. I Love Him But My Family And Friends Hate Him. Help by RickTurnip: 4:35pm On Feb 19, 2013
Marry him you idiot.
Re: My Boyfriend Is An Atheist. I Love Him But My Family And Friends Hate Him. Help by UyiIredia(m): 8:16pm On Jun 27, 2013
3 years after, I'm wondering what became of this happy couple after the Nairaland fiasco. I read through the thread in parts and got the gist (even when the fiance came on board) but I wasn't hooked. I chanced it again while surfing old threads and began to read it in detail. A story well worth learning from. To summarize what I learnt: the need for communication, longsuffering and commitment.

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Re: My Boyfriend Is An Atheist. I Love Him But My Family And Friends Hate Him. Help by johananrock: 4:25pm On Oct 05, 2014
Take care
Re: My Boyfriend Is An Atheist. I Love Him But My Family And Friends Hate Him. Help by themanderon: 7:03pm On Nov 05, 2015
waooo:
u ar a lucky chap to have met this man of urs. Good for u, my only problem is d young man is too good to a fault, find out more about him and then reach a decision.

I tell you ohh too good to a fault, there might be a dark side to this guy really.
Re: My Boyfriend Is An Atheist. I Love Him But My Family And Friends Hate Him. Help by hightempo(m): 8:35pm On Nov 05, 2015
You are in a very simple but difficult situation.... Most of the problem we have today is caused by ignorance of People towards what true relligion is all about and therefore caused Division in human mind. There is nothing like relligion except intelligence, which is spontaneous perception of things as they are.. We have been conditioned over time with a belief system which has crippled human intelligence.. Theist and atheist are thesame thing.. their differences is only of polarity... Love is the only cosmic energy that unites all wihtout any Division... As far as i'm concern regarding this issue, i will advise u to follow your heart.. Dont succumb to any pressure.. many of those Who talk about relligion dont really know what Relligion is all about... True relligion is for the Individual Who is curageous and intelligent not for the vegitable masses Who are deeply unconcious of their divinity.
Re: My Boyfriend Is An Atheist. I Love Him But My Family And Friends Hate Him. Help by jayriginal: 8:48pm On Nov 05, 2015
Might be true but honestly sounds like a made up story.

Sounds like someone is trying to paint atheists in glorious colors.

I only read the OP though.
Re: My Boyfriend Is An Atheist. I Love Him But My Family And Friends Hate Him. Help by Befitting(f): 10:55pm On Nov 05, 2015
SiaFuller:
I am an Avid reader of Nairaland and i have never bothered to comment but to enjoy the comments and advices of others i relationship matters but i think i now need your assistance before i lose the plot.

I have been dating this guy for a while now and honestly speaking without exaggerating too much, he is the most perfect man to me. He is tall, dark, handsome, hardworking and very kind to a fault. He helps people at will and takes no offence whatso ever at my excesses except i over do it to a fault and instead of getting mad at me to hit me or abuse me, he just walks away for an hour or 2 and comes back as if nothing happens. The only snag i have with him is that he is an atheist and doesnt believe in God whatso ever. I am a very strong Christian and i didnt take it as anything at first when he was trying to date me. I saw it as a juvenile boy's thing and maybe misguided and my purpose was to date him to make him change his ways and believe in God, but instead he has kept steadfast to his belief of not believing in God and hating anything about religion but apart from that, he is everything a girl could want in a man or more.

Since i have known him, he doesnt smoke or drink or party, move around with unserious or bad friends. He has never cheated on me and promised to never do so because its not his nature. He hasn't hit me before and also swore the day that he hits me mistakenly i should stab him and dump him there and then because he doesnt appreciate Men who beat women. He takes care of me and sometimes even cook for me when ever i come to his place. He even paid close to N300,000 for my hospital bills when i had a surgery and he stayed with me most of the time. I know he truely and genuinely loves me but this issue of his religion and atheism is my only problem with him. He has even driven me to church on so many occassions when it rains or when am going for Night Virgil but he never comes down or attends it and he sometimes comes back to pick me up when i am done.

He blatantly refuses to change. My pastor dislikes him so much and sees him as a bad influence to me because he says anybody that is not of the spirit and with the spirit of God is a temptation to be cut loose. My Mom doesnt even want to hear anything about him until he renounces his atheism but she hasnt complained about him concerning anything else. My Dad has warned me not to bring a devil to his house hold and sees him as a Devil's incarnate and spritually unclean. He even promised to disown me if i ever call him my financee talkless of bringing home as a potential husband. Most of my female friends drool over him and tell me how lucky i am to meet such a good man while others warn me that he is demonic and i should stay away from him because he doesnt believe in God.

The thing is that he is very brilliant and intelligent and when you hear him speak sometimes he could be so mesmerizing when denouncing religion and the bible or Koran as mere propagandas and fictional works. There was even a day some people in my fellowship came to meet him to pray and convert him and it turned into a debate and he ended up winning the argument and making us question or faith back in a total reversal of roles. He is very unsparing and merciless when it comes to things of God, Bible or religion and makes no apologises for it. Apart from that, he is a total kitty cat. Calm, collected, mature, responsible and humble. 2 days ago he jokingly made a feeble attempt to propose to me but added a clause that we would only do a registry marriage and not church wedding because he cant stand the site of the hypocrisy of christianity and the church but he would go out of his way to make sure i have a memorable wedding @ the registry and reception. He tells me that prayers dont work and only daft and lazy people believe in prayers. He says you don't have to be a christian to be kind, compassionate and honest and to help people. He says its human nature and the society that dictates how we think and act and he chooses to be someone that is kind and honest to people and not attribute it to one God or Church. Anytime i come back from Church and talk about my pastor or what i was taught, he gets very angry. He doesnt like hearing anything about pastors, churches, tithes and sermons but when you get into a biblical argument with him, its as if he knows the bible inside out and the right quotes without even reading it. He is that articulate.

For the past 2 days i have been in a dilema now. He wants to marry me i believe and i love him seriously to bits. I have dated other so called born again or spiritually filled guys in my past that messed me up so badly and i know alot of men use this as a bait to catch women and end up showing their true colors later on. My boyfriend is not disguising who he is in terms of his spirituality but he is offering me this unconditional love which i have seen and no man has given me despite their promises. My only fear is that my parents will see me as an out cast, my friends dont like him for it, my pastor and church members loathe him for being an athiest and dislike more everyday i am with him. If i go ahead with my choice to stick with him, i lose my soul and my community but gain happiness because he has truely being a wonderful man so far but if i leave him for my friends, family and community i might lose my prince charming that every woman dreams of that loves me dearly.

I am really confused and i have to make a decision quickly. Please help advise me. Please no nasty comments too i beg you. Hope we can be civil with this.

P:S: I will be 30 in September.

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