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Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by zendy: 9:56pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
Guestlander: Reall? Well, let us see Yorubas come and get restructuring from the North. |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by nextstep(m): 9:57pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
Guestlander: Two things: 1. What does "give me what I want or else..." mean? If the Federal Government refuses to restructure, didn't the article mention using all means to achieve its aim? Let's not play naiive... violence is implied. Even a child understand what this threat means... an ass wuppin. 2. Let's be serious. The Federal Government has superior firepower, and when the chips are down, the UN respects firepower much more than it respects documents and declarations (as history has shown). In other words, if Oduduwa is serious, he should arm himself very very very well. If violence is not being implied, then of what use is the threat? "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" is not child's play, it's supposed to pique attention. It's not the same as "Restructure Nigeria or We Ask Nicely Again". My position throughout this thread is that there are much better alternatives to this, and I've outlined them. I'm afraid the people who will suffer the most are not the people writing or publishing the advert. It will be me and you, our friends, families, children, and other people just like us. And if the Federal Government should see fit to pad a few envelopes or give a few choice positions, we'll find the voices of these leaders surprisingly quiet. I'm not casting aspersions on Yoruba leadership, but I can't help but recall that Ojukwu - our champion (and I say that with bitterness) didn't stay around to die like some members of my family as did so many of "his people". I can't help but recall US and UK selling arms and help enforce blockades that starved millions (right to self-determination indeed). I also can't help but recall how members of MEND became wealthy and the people on whose behalf they said they were fighting for... well, those are still wallowing in oil-slicked poverty. Where is Kanu? Why are the North-Eastern elites helpless/complicit in that region? Like I said, I will apply for visa to Oduduwa after the dust clears, just like people apply to US (which had its own civil war of succession which was won by Unionists - who wanted to keep the country together), and UK (which has had a long string of civil wars; the most recent with the IRA, again, essentially won by the the government who wanted to keep Northern Ireland in the UK), or to Spain, which too has kept the secessionist Catalonia at bay) |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by Guestlander: 9:58pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
Sprumbabafather: The damage done by Jonathan will take years to fix. Don't be too narrow minded, this is beyond Jonathan and Buhari. If you like sit on the fence as usual, paralyzed by fear of Yoruba playing a fast one on you. 1 Like |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by Guestlander: 10:03pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
nextstep: The Federation is buckling under the weight of injustices across the country. The people who love the country are those asking to make it a more just and peaceful federation. If you doubt me just read the newspaper headlines today. |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by vigasimple(m): 10:04pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
nextstep: With all due respect, you come across as a pessimist short term thinker. The country has endured the present system for over 50years. Maybe it is time to try new thing. The people asking for restructure are all well over 65years, so, not only they have the experience, but they are in their retirement years, they are fighting for the youth future. They have set out their points and warn them Yoruba youths not to vote for a joke called Buhari, they did not listen, now they are paying the price. A one million Buhari cannot rescue the youths of Nigeria because he hasn't got what it takes to do so. Kudos to the Elders. They have said there own on record, whether or not the youths follows , it is their own future and it's up to them. |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by DerideGull(m): 10:07pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
Yari.ba majorly contributed to the unstructured Nigeria. Nigeria is dysfunctional today because Yari.ba played a cowardly hand in 1966. I guess this demeanor could not be unrelated to the fact that most Yari.ba people were under certain emirates. 1 Like |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by Guestlander: 10:13pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
DerideGull: Nigeria is dysfunctional because ibos could not see beyond their noses. They tried to use violence to get what they could have gotten with the stroke of a pen. Act first and think later. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by sharpsecret: 10:20pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
Guestlander:now dat tins has gone from bad to worst..u are now luking 4 nnamdi kanu to come nd save u frm d zoo..even if nnamdi kanu is dead,.am stil proud,.he died 4 the people he love,.he is d jesus of biafraland,he dint die an ordinary man's death..he died a hero and generations to come wil foreva rememba him..he is not like awolowo who commited suicide.. 2 Likes |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by nextstep(m): 10:21pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
vigasimple: Is it the system/constitution or leaders? What stopped all the representatives, businessmen, intellectuals, governors, senators, from transforming Yorubaland into a fantastic region where everyone is gainfully employed, factories are abundant, water flows, hospitals are well equipped, schools are functional? Are these not state responsibilities? Is it Abuja that decides how primary schools are run? Is it Abuja that is responsible for ensuring pipe-borne water? Is it Abuja's fault that my former governor (Ibori) absconded with billions of dollars while our youths turn to cultism, or that Obasanjo and Tinubu turned the public purse into their own private account? How will they suddenly transform Oduduwa when they'll be doing the same things they have done for 65 years? Past performance remains the best predictor of future performance. *Ogun and Lagos states have certainly tried, that I will commend 1 Like |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by Abeycadabra(m): 10:29pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
It is like you have not been studying trends, aw the southwest gov put their political difference apart to speak with one voice concerning Yoruba agenda. nextstep: |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by akigbemaru: 10:30pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
usba: |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by ycat: 10:35pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
Sounds like a good starting point. I hope other things are going underground, like going after who rides commercial bikes in SW by asking them to register with their local governments which must be under DAWN projects and then watch the riders be Yoruba only within 6 months. Also, Alaba and Ladipo markets should be tagged an eyesore and moved to places that can be controlled with a sort of affirmative action where only a very small percentage will be available to non-Yoruba. We need to start giving economic advantage to Yoruba youths. We need to move fast. |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by omonnakoda: 10:36pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
Even if violence is implied it does not have to be symmetrical or conventional and the protagonist chooses their timetable. We saw what Boko Horam ,Mend and Fulani herdsmen can do. . If the Yoruba nation wages asymmetrical war against Nigeria in the current climate it cannot survive.It will very quickly become a space or multiple warlords. No one wants that but it could happen and very quickly too. Libya,Syria, Somalia, Iraq will look like a picnic . There is no way Nigeria can remain under civilian rule in such a scenario. It remains to be seen whether the Nigerian Army will fall under one command in the event of a coup |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by okenta2017: 10:40pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
usba:To you it is not a dictatorship because it favours you. It is not a dictatorship and the commander in Chief without an act of parliament authorised the army to start using tax payers money to breed cattle in army baracks which eventually will end up in Fulanies farm. Then the army to use the instrument of the state to forcefully acquire land for the establishment of fulani/cattle colonies throughout the federation. What will happen to the Igbo's Efi colony, are they not Nigerians are they not also entitle to establishing Efi colonies throughout the federation. Efi is a breed of igbos cattle which are not allow to roam farm land. The igbos has long developed ranches for these efi because they understand it will not be appropriate to allow cow or goat to wonder into other peoples farm and destroy their investment. Hence they established ranches in lands they bought with their money and not land forcefully acquire for them by the military. Yoruba's should be taken seriously now. Enough is enough..It is restructure now or never Should buhari be allowed to go for a second term, it will be over for South and Nigeria Central states. I just don't understand these fulanies , You said the IGR of kano alone covers that of the 5 SE states but you don't want restructuring, but the so called 5 SE states with little or no IGR are clamouring for restructure. Who is fooling who. I was one of those people who initially opposed to the establishment of state police, my reason was that the politicians will use it as an instrument of surpressing the opposition, but event has overtaken this my initial thought. Lives of Nigerian are more precious than surpressing clueless politician The army is now in cattle business, all the Fulani leaders are in cattle business, all the security forces are controlled by cattle breeders, and they have taken their trade into the armed forces. No one is in doubt that its the Fulani herds men that are doing all these killing because of Land. Scare them away and take over their land. And the army also need land to establish cattle colonies all over Nigeria . Libyan armed forces cannot come here to kill and take over land also Chadians or Niger. A thief however trained or experience cannot go and operate in territory he is not familiar with. The type of killing been carried out can never be hand work civilians. The nature of killing can only be carried out by well trained army personnel . Is it libyans, Chadanian or is Niger military.Do the armed forces of these country value cow more than human lives Do any of these security forces have cattle colonies in their barracks. If they do, seriously they will object to establishing state police in their country because to them cattle live is wought protecting than human live. They will strongly object to establishing state police because their murderous night activities will be checkmate. Soldier in the day Fulani herdsmen in the night. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by tosyne09: 11:01pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
Nations that get better never get better because politicians wanted it but because the people wanted it. so many will make noise on social medias even like we are doing here. how many of us can chase the government to do what is right? politicians will always play their games. so forget restructuring unless it is charge by people like those who signed this advert. if you think the advert is meaningless, just wait and see. 1 Like |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by konoplyanka: 11:07pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
Guestlander: Don't mind them. |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by konoplyanka: 11:11pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
zendy: Which is easier between restructuring and wrestling power from the military? |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by konoplyanka: 11:12pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
tosyne09: Did you see politicians among these people? |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by valentineuwakwe(m): 11:23pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
na today..na dem go be the first to talk butwhen e go happen, na dem go first change mouth or run self.... 1 Like |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by zendy: 11:23pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
konoplyanka: Restructuring of course. Military Government is never forever, they eventually have to give way to civilians. But trying to restructure a country that has needs a two thirds to agree in a vote at the national assembly, thats impossible |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by namdo(m): 11:25pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
why has it been hard for our southern politicians to pursue a change of this military northern constitution of 1999 into something truly nationally progressive? Ironically maybe most of these southern politicians do not know that the present constitution was written by the 'north' to favor the north (yet they are massively impoverished). I suggest the south/middle belt pull resources together and 'fight' this out maybe using the 2014 conference as a first reference/step. If we are able to come together this bondage can be broken. Let the SW/SS/SE/MB meet since they are much more progressive in nature than the core north who seem to be satisfied with the status quo. |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by LZAA: 11:34pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
CampuChan: my chest oooo well dy shld dash ewedu headslammers to dia masters sha bubu is like d reed in d wind nobody wan stand near am 1 Like |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by blacknp(m): 11:40pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
usba:Nicely said does old illiterates should be ashamed of themselves,they are the same ones that were begging the Military to create weak States to satisfy their egos now they are talking of some fathom restructuring. They need to be giving the jerry rawling's treatment. They say Charity begins at home,won't the States first restructure by giving autonomous powers to the Local Governments as enshrined in the Constitution before they start tackling the Federal Government who do not have the power to restructure a local government let alone Nigeria, Those old Mumus should go and read the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria 1999 as amended which is Supreme and stop deceiving the people,we know election is around the corner and I am quite sure all these is early lobbying for Ghana Must Go. |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by blacknp(m): 11:49pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
namdo:It is quite obvious you are a social and economical failure who hasn't read the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria 1999 as Amended. Lazy Donkey,We're were you in 1978 and again in 1998 when all these so called political leaders were drafting the constitution hand in hand with the khaki Boyz under the guise of an assumed constitutional conference,just like the congregation of Jesters jonathan tried to purport in 2014 as a conference and what has stopped us the People from amending it 20 years after the Military has left power? |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by Nobody: 11:55pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
CampuChan: So how come the who is who in yoruba land have been quiet for so long If they brought their A game wen the biafra issue was hot, We would have gotten a reasonable restructure by now. 1 Like |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by namdo(m): 11:58pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
blacknp:You lack comprehension. What makes you think I have not read the constitution. Just because you obviously do not grasp my point which points to entrenching changes for national development into the constitution using the political resources of the progressive regions should not give you the impetus to insult me. Asshole. Note: I will not honour you with further reply no matter any insult you may have. |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by TheFreeOne: 11:59pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
I'm 100% in support of VOR. Considering the calibre of Yoruba elders involved I'll say real life is coming into the quest for restructuring and should that fail then the needful becomes imminent. Current political class have shown they are only interested in personal aggrandizement, interests and filling their stomachs like animals instead of insisting on the right thing. And since selfish interests have taken the best of reason and justice then Nigeria can never be great with present faulty structure/constitution that favors the 'north'. Oodua a gbe wa o. |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by blacknp(m): 12:12am On Jan 23, 2018 |
namdo:SHUT UP and stop all these your Jargon rhetoric talk you stiff necked mule with the wrong interpretation mixed up with faint imagination,Like I said it is quite obvious you haven't read the Constitution of The Federal Republic of Nigeria 1999 as Amended. Why don't you appeal to CAN and the Vatican to amend the Bible to make mention of me and you in black Africa? |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by imagineTHAT: 12:24am On Jan 23, 2018 |
Sprumbabafather: Now the yoruba elders want restructuring or they'll leave? na now day break for their eyes abi? nobody should leave o... they are part of the problem. we all go dey till buhari finish e second term o... nobody should leave o. why?! dem go kno d value of Goodluck Jonathan after buhari finish e second term. dem go learn! |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by blacknp(m): 12:24am On Jan 23, 2018 |
PrecisionFx:Empty Barrels of Mr Whos of Nobodies from the South West,The real leaders of Yoruba Politics are all in All Progressive Congress(APC),even in Pdp they were nobody just like Wike told them to their faces, and what did they do?A Dog that can barely bark cannot bite a bone. Only a Fool will fall for these trick of these jesters,they are looking for Ghana Must Go, failed pdp saboteurs,President Buhari is not Jonathan no money to share for you people. Ole,Barawos. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by poseidon12: 12:32am On Jan 23, 2018 |
Interesting. Happy to see that the Yoruba elders and intellectuals are speaking up. Also happy to see that there are efforts to coordinate with the SE, SS, and MB. If these 4 regions can unite, the evil Hausa-Fulani plans for Nigeria can be thwarted and Nigeria can be rescued. It's about time. |
Re: "Restructure Nigeria or We Leave" Punch Advert by Yoruba Elders by blacknp(m): 12:32am On Jan 23, 2018 |
TheFreeOne:Just proof that these Young 'uns have no clue on the stipulates of the Constitution which is Cardinal,please mention one section of the Constitution of The Federal Republic of Nigeria 1999 as amended that mentions the North of The Niger let alone favors the Northern Part of Nigeria?Hungry Yoruba clowns looking for Ghana Must Go, a bunch of Nobodies in obodo Nigeria. |
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