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Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by CHUKWUNOLOGICAL(m): 1:18pm On Jan 29, 2018 |
oofjm: Am a graduate of building, In Building, you chances in the labour market are high, you can work in An Architectural firm, a building firm and a civil eng. firm, In Nigeria as a Builder, you are an architect, a Building engineer and a Civil engineer, i mean in this developing country. But in architecture, its not so, because i gat friends among them. U can ask another expert. This is Just an advice from my little thiny experience. |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by CHUKWUNOLOGICAL(m): 1:19pm On Jan 29, 2018 |
oofjm: Am a graduate of building, In Building, you chances in the labour market are high, you can work in An Architectural firm, a building firm and a civil eng. firm, In Nigeria as a Builder, you are an architect, a Building engineer and a Civil engineer, i mean in this developing country. But in architecture, its not so, because i gat friends among them. U can ask another expert. This is Just an advice from my little thiny experience. Thanks |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by CHUKWUNOLOGICAL(m): 1:27pm On Jan 29, 2018 |
handsomeclouds: You think so? Am a builder and i sit and do my building drawilngs under AC. If you dont know, there is really cool cash in building sites, there is no money in drawing. Some builders can draw more than some architects in Nigeria and will still make up to 500k in a week from sites activities and will keep making money until the building project is completed. stop assuming. |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by Arcbox(m): 1:45pm On Jan 29, 2018 |
Funny when I heard sme1 saying dat Architects will b dragging site wit d builder. In the first place, under contract execution we done have builder in the chain of contract processes. The chain is Architect-civil engr-electrical n mechanical engr-quantity surveyor. Pls my broda as far as Nigeria is concern, Architect have the upper hand. The work of the builder has been solve to the mason. |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by pafek(m): 2:41pm On Jan 29, 2018 |
if I want to set up a cooperate construction firm, these are the people I will need. 1)architect 2)structural/civil engr 3)quantity surveyor . . . lots of qualify masons I don't need a builder, they are mostly crooks that love to backstab other professionals 1 Like |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by Ehimen100: 3:15pm On Jan 29, 2018 |
Both courses are good but what matters is what you passion is and what you want to make out of it. Building is very similar to civil engineering it's just that your focus is building and not civil works. In terms of job opportunities (where to work) building has more and diverse opportunities than architecture. Even when you choose to practice building (being a building contractor) you are very likely to make more money than people who practice pure architectural consultancy. Also don't forget that architecture in Nigeria today is currently and severely plagued with quacks (draftsmen and untrained people who pretend to be architects and practice illegally) and this has reduced the opportunities of young architects. If you are the kind of guy who like to move and coordinate things, have eyes for details, love building things (construction) and know how to manage people and resources you are in the right profession and on your way to wealth. On the other hand architecture is a gentle man profession but a very prestigious one. Pure architectural consultancy may not guarantee enormous wealth but it guarantees comfort. If you love the practice of architecture then it guarantees job satisfaction and fulfilment especially when you works are getting built (of course by the builders making all the money). But the real beauty of architecture is that it allows you to do several other things as a result of your architectural knowledge and this is where architecture may surpass building. It's legal for architects to execute design and build projects (the architects designs and builds his designs) but it's illegal for builders to handle architectural design before building. Read the article to know 19 other things you can do with an architecture degree and knowledge. http://www.archccess.com/2018/01/19-things-do-with-architecture-degree.html 2 Likes |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by oofjm: 3:30pm On Jan 29, 2018 |
martowskin1:thanks |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by oofjm: 3:31pm On Jan 29, 2018 |
kachoski007:thanks |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by oofjm: 3:34pm On Jan 29, 2018 |
saydfact:thank you |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by TEYA: 3:37pm On Jan 29, 2018 |
hurricaneChris:Abeg no mind these people. Even in the Abuja he is talking of do are builders among the recognised professionals in development control unit of fct? |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by oofjm: 3:41pm On Jan 29, 2018 |
Olarch:thank you |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by oofjm: 3:46pm On Jan 29, 2018 |
Oteebaba:thanks |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by oofjm: 3:55pm On Jan 29, 2018 |
madgoat:bros I am not going to school to be successful bt to grab an opportunity...I'm not been smart with my reply,I'm only asking for advice because I know what architecture entails...because that's what I applied before given building... so u should not insult me. 1 Like |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by oofjm: 4:07pm On Jan 29, 2018 |
Ehimen100:appreciate thanks 1 Like |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by FerrytimCharis: 5:04pm On Jan 29, 2018 |
Hey, pls study building. That's the best course you can ever study compared to Architecture. I studied building too. U will know how to design, construct and plan for a project from beginning to the end. Building is all about building production and management. As a builder you can design your buildings yourself although that's the work of the architect. You can be a quality manager, facility manager, construction manager, cost manager, health and safety manager. All will be taught within the space of 5 years. Pls learn all you can. God bless U |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by ArcGibson(m): 6:07pm On Jan 29, 2018 |
Ehimen100:I've been reading all the comments and this explains it best. I'm an architect, so make a choice and follow your mind. 1 Like |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by oofjm: 6:47pm On Jan 29, 2018 |
ArcGibson:yea I noticed that,thank you very much sir |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by elhafeez(m): 12:03am On Jan 30, 2018 |
cupid0:Who do you employ. Is it your fathers project or à clients. You cant employ me. I know my job and do it well. Your design is à dream, i make it à reality. You design, you know little about construction. You dont even know what grade 20 concrete is. You dont even know what water cement ratio can do. I have worked with alot of Architect they perfectly understand where their job ends and where mine starts. I done have to argue with you. 1 Like |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by johnsontade: 1:53am On Jan 30, 2018 |
Its only a country with improper regulations like Nigeria that an Architect think they can compete with Builders in the construction industry. I’m a Civil Engineer currently working in a building construction company and I’d say i totally agree to the fact that Architects are the first point of contact at the drafting stage or a project but normally don’t have much business on site and DO NOT have the license to construct. The best they can do is to become client side project managers that attend client meetings and can only supervise at intervals to ensure the work is being done in accordance to the approved drawings and specifications. A builder on the other hand is fully trained to know the A-Z of buildings in regards to structural calculations, building quantity estimations, procurement, building regulations/compliance's (VERY IMPORTANT), contract administration (payment terms, due dates, completion date, progress claims etc.), site management and construction project management which gives them an huge edge over Architects. I am currently pursuing a second degree in Construction management degree (Building Technology + Project management) and can categorically tell you that we were taught drafting using REVIT/Archicad alongside the Architecture students in our first year which gives us more edge because we acquired the required skills to design and draft low to high rise buildings in additions to building/construction project management skills. OP should study Architecture only if he truly has a passion for it…but generally speaking, Building is far more versatile and will open more doors if you’re smart, ready to learn and humble enough to work your way up. 2 Likes |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by Mrskaro(f): 2:24am On Jan 30, 2018 |
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Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by oofjm: 6:53am On Jan 30, 2018 |
johnsontade:thank you sir...have been admitted to building already |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by cupid0(f): 7:54am On Jan 30, 2018 |
elhafeez: It's because in Nigeria, clients by pass the architect because they want to cut cost. In saner climes, the client comes to my office, gives me the brief. After designing, I assemble my team in which you are involved. You build, I supervise. You make a mistake, it's corrected by me. During the preparation of payment tender, I deduct the cost of your mistake and pay you the rest. If I don't prepare that tender, you won't be paid. The earlier you realize that, the better for us all. |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by arcike(m): 8:17am On Jan 30, 2018 |
cupid0: savage!!!.... dey don't knw wat architecture is abt or wat we do |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by arcike(m): 8:25am On Jan 30, 2018 |
CHUKWUNOLOGICAL: who is dis 1... so u hv ever made 500k in a week cos na u get d structure na... b4 u finish d structure u go doak At least 5million... yeye dey smell |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by pafek(m): 9:39am On Jan 30, 2018 |
FerrytimCharis:'as a builder, u can design ur building' do u even know d concept of design? oh how I wish u are close to me so I can give u a simple brief n see how you will go abt it |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by pafek(m): 9:49am On Jan 30, 2018 |
johnsontade:if truly u re a civil engr. as u claim, then its surprising and sympathetic how u can stand so low and claim dt a builder can effortlessly do d job of a civil engr. am an Architect, so I will speak for myself. having d knowledge of autocad/revit doesn't make u a master designer(architect). because autocad is just a computer aided software that enables u draft with d computer instead of hand drafting. Perhaps u re working with draft men in your so called organizations that makes you belittle an Architect. in a sane country like dubai or usa or uk, do u think a builder can stand a utter a word where an Architect is? lastly, have you watch the making of burj arab hotel? if not, pls do, that will help u alot in distinguishing d roles of professionals in high tec construction |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by wtfcoded: 12:22pm On Jan 30, 2018 |
cupid0:Hey, I'm not here to quarrel with u. I've built a hotel, I designed it. I've built a catheral church, I designed it. A double 4 storey building is now ongoing in anambra, I designed it. Need to say more? I've also sold so many building plans. Architecture is a course that should be merged into building or even civil engineering 1 Like |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by cupid0(f): 2:10pm On Jan 30, 2018 |
wtfcoded: Sweetheart I'm not quarreling with you. Your brags are only possible here in Nigeria. That you did all that doesn't make you an architect, rather it makes you a quack who doesn't know his role in the building industry. |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by CHUKWUNOLOGICAL(m): 2:15pm On Jan 30, 2018 |
arcike: Its not my fault if you are too dull to understand. Your reasoning faculty is empty, very empty |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by pafek(m): 2:47pm On Jan 30, 2018 |
wtfcoded:go and merge it oga merger. you think it's all about listening to music and drawing lines in d studio? for your info architecture students study structures and building construction for 3-4 years in undergraduate school alone but we don't brag about it. and most reason architects don't depends structural works is because we have a 10credit load course in design studio (which is d highest in all university courses) 1 Like |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by hurumnanya: 5:16am On Feb 01, 2018 |
ba7man: As a civil engineering student I studied architecture two three semesters. That's enough background bro. Even as an architect that you are some design pass you by far, after all Nigerian designs are basically typical. |
Re: How Lucrative Is Bsc Building Compare To Bsc Architecture by johnsontade: 5:43am On Feb 01, 2018 |
pafek: @pafek I am not going to say much so it doesn’t seem like I’m bragging. I currently live and work in Australia and we share a very similar system with the UK. I said I studied Civil Engineering but didn’t say I practice as one.. I am currently working in a building construction firm as a project coordinator and only stating how is it being done here. I never said Architects aren’t important but was trying to clarify that Architect DO NOT have the license to build…simple. They design, liaise with the client and follow up at different stages of the project but the ultimate power to construct lies on the building contractor because they have a better understanding of the overall building process from A-Z ranging from Earthworks, masonry, concreting, roofing in addition to the local governmental council requirements, managing material, labour and equipments in additions to ensuring work health and safety alongside the HSE officer/personnel. This is how a typical building process(commercial/high rise residential) works here for your understanding: 1. The client/owner meets with a Project management firm and states what they want. 2. An Architectural firm either in house or external is consulted to design according to the clients vision/needs. 3. The design is reviewed and then passed on to the engineering consultants for design and analysis. Architects design so many fancy stuffs to impress the client but engineers do the necessary structural analysis using the appropriate building standards to ensure the Architects design is structurally fit and flag the impossible designs that aren’t structurally possible(if any). Other tests/investigations such as geotechnical & environmental will also be carried out and the results will also be used for the analysis (especially for the foundation design). 4. If the design is approved and necessary documentations (specifications, geotechnical reports, environmental council approvals etc. ) have been done, its then stamped by the registered engineer and passed back to the client who then invites interested/selected building contractors to tender (to ensure its free and fair unlike the naija way). 5. Tenders are reviewed and the contract is awarded to the contractor with the best tender after necessary negotiations and meetings. 6. After the Construction work has started…the Architect and the design engineers only visits site from time to time to inspect and ensure there are no discrepancies but the Builder/construction project manager working for the contractor is the main guy that runs the site all through the construction phase. That is how it is done here. Cheers 2 Likes |
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