Explorers:


And the dealer sold it out for 2.2m

What abt the funds to fix up that level of "wreckage"

ogbiwa:


Things are done differently here unfortunately (or fortunately, I don't know). And like I said these repairs are done by dealers who are looking for every possible means to cut costs on a car they're even yet to sell and recover expenses! I see you quoting $500 (N180,000) for straightening the bent frame! wow wow wow. You see that 50k for panel beating/welding/painting I quoted? That straightening is inside there for the panel beater. I've seen my panel beater do that for another car right before my eyes, and all he used was a heavy chain hooked to a strong tree trunk We're not all lazy youths down here bro

Below is an examples of the frame machines the cars go on top of and everything is pulled and straitened back to shape. That's why pple avoid cars with frame damages.

lambinkin:
@ Explorers, please which website did you get the vehicle history details.

Thanks

You have to pay. Vehicle history is never free . .

enemyofprogress:
Op you're one of the lazy Nigerians Buhari was talking about. Useless thread, I piss on it

Living up to your moniker I see.

somehow:
Dealer made around d #700k from this alone. Almost enough to buy another car.

Did you factor in the cost of repairs to make it clean like this?

Explorers:


Imagination bro, why the vehicle will be that expensive despite the history.

The quote up there i dont think is more than 1.5m

that car is 800/900k last

So explorer na civil servant

How to Read a VIN (Vehicle Identification Number)

https://www.yourmechanic.com/article/how-to-decode-a-vin-vehicle-identification-number-by-jason-unrau

Cosplay:
I had a feeling it was a similar situation when I saw your request. I just didn't know how dire the situation was.

It beats my imagination how one would witness this and the situation I described in the VIN Tampering thread and still be against the VIN being provided upfront for preliminary investigation.

The elderly gentleman, unfortunately, failed to do his due diligence, for whatever reason, it could simply be a case of poor preparation before purchasing a vehicle in Nigeria.

I have no issues with the price. The seller may choose to ask for 4 million NGN after factoring in repair costs, if he so wishes, as long as he has fully disclosed the history of the vehicle and provided the VIN. Sellers with ridiculous prices often get regulated by market forces after their vehicles sit unsold for long periods due to the high prices.

Make no mistake about it, the bulk of the responsibility lies with the morally bankrupt seller for failing to fully disclose the history of this vehicle and probably for taking undue advantage of the elderly gentleman.

Very unfortunate.

Those old men too...instead of taking along a youth that knows these things...they always prefer to do it alone..even imagining that the youth they take along might rip them off.

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A clean title of that Toyota model prices starts from $3,500 - $4,500. Excluding other charges such as port and carriage. Most of the vehicles shipped to Najia are salvaged and accidented.

You guys should go and follow @xkayglobal for accident free cars on instagram! Thank me later

YorubaAssasin:


Firstly, I need to know what you guys are complaining abt. Are you guys disputing the vehicle salvage status or the final price tag? From what the OP put up there, I think it's reasonable even though it's a very bad deal. IMHO.

The $275 isn't the net/final price sold at the auction. That price is what's called the pre-bidding price prior to the actual auction. After the real auction might have taken place, the final bidding price is likely to surpass the $275. Okay let's assume the final bid price is $275...

The $1K add fee is mandatory but, not necessarily that much. It's usually a % of the total cost + numerous fees (paper-work) added up. So let's assume it's $1K... So, let's do the math...

$(275 + 1,000 + 200 + 1,200) = $2,675 * N360 = N963,000 + N500,000 (Clearing Cost) = N1,463,000

Let's NOT forget, the car was fixed by whoever that bought it... and from the damages I'm seeing, the total fix price to get this to its current shape would be nothing less than $1,500 - $2,000 = N540,000 - N720,000. Let's say it's N540,000


N1,463,000 + N540,000 = N2,003,000.

Again, this is the minimum net price given the info. provided by OP. So why the hassle... everyone whining upandan. This is one of the numerous reasons I advice folks to rather buy a car in Nigeria than from here in the U.S. The only advantage of buying foreign (developed nation)used cars is proper usability (good roads/dealership maintained etc.. ) and less-salvage value compared to 9ja used.

Though, this is a very bad deal given the extent of damage and cost of repair of this particular vehicle. I expected someone like "Explorers" to have dug more info. before coming out to cry foul.

Make sense.

Explorers:


Those guys in Lagos can fix anything for Africa.

Please tell the man to return it.
I hate insincere people.

Most of the imported naija cars are salvage. Price a clean title cars online and you would understand how much it will cost you to bring it in.

Wow! Am so speechless right now.

Explorers:
Over a year now, the old man has been working to own a 2008 Corolla due to the low fuel consumption.

We both talked about the car several times and because of the price, he went for a 2006.

So papa, a boss and also a father brought this Corolla to the office on Monday with dealer claiming papa is very lucky to get a clean title and accident free car like this.

Congratulations sir! congratulations sir!! everywhere(Civil servant na)

Sir, how much did you get it?

He said over 2.2m.


But i noticed that the bumper, headlamps and the grill are kind of not in line(Space between them).


So i shot the vin, the first picture and brought it to one of my thread for assistance(cosplay).

And i got this result.


Can i tell him?

Please hw do I check for my friend, he just bought a 2004 Toyota Corolla 1.7 million.

If they call the price of a clean title car, most people will run away. That car will cost up to $1,500 to fix in the US. I’m surprised to see $275 as a winning bid. Only advice I’d give anyone buying a car is,

1. ask the dealer if it’s a clean title.

2. Be ready to pay more for a clean title. Don’t start saying I say a Camry at Mr.A’s shop and it cost 2m, so yours should be cheaper.

For 2.2m considering the crazy clearing situation, it’s a fair deal. The repairs done on it should be well enough to last.

When buying a car, always look at it maintenance history in the carFax report, even if it’s accidented or a clean title, you don’t want a car that hasn’t been regularly maintained, it’s worse than buying an accidented car.

In the US, you have titles called “salvage-rebuilt” these are cars that had accidents, but have been fixed, and inspected and are certified safe for road use. There’s no harm in buying this type of cars, they are cheaper to buy and have been inspected by authorities to be safe.

Flooded titles are also cheap to get, a car with flood title can never be driven in some states in the USA, EXCEPT you have a “bonded title”, when buying a flooded vehicle, please ensure it’s not an expensive car because it’s not worth the risk. Make sure the engine is properly cleaned and serviced and that the sensors are working properly.

Certificate of Destruction is for the Junk yard, please don’t drive it.

goldenval:
That’s why I don’t like buying cars from copart.com so many dirty cars there.

My Venza is not that bad when I bought it from the US though.

that good anyway you just earned yourself 2 coins fr coming to tell us you use a venza

anyway our upper team at NTA n AIT would really be pleased to have you on open air to tell more people you own a venza

shioor

Cosplay:
I had a feeling it was a similar situation when I saw your request. I just didn't know how dire the situation was.

It beats my imagination how one would witness this and the situation I described in the VIN Tampering thread and still be against the VIN being provided upfront for preliminary investigation.

The elderly gentleman, unfortunately, failed to do his due diligence, for whatever reason, it could simply be a case of poor preparation before purchasing a vehicle in Nigeria.

I have no issues with the price. The seller may choose to ask for 4 million NGN after factoring in repair costs, if he so wishes, as long as he has fully disclosed the history of the vehicle and provided the VIN. Sellers with ridiculous prices often get regulated by market forces after their vehicles sit unsold for long periods due to the high prices.

Make no mistake about it, the bulk of the responsibility lies with the morally bankrupt seller for failing to fully disclose the history of this vehicle and probably for taking undue advantage of the elderly gentleman.

Very unfortunate.

Boss pls give me the link to the VIN tampering thread..

MisterGrace:

Please tell the man to return it. I hate insincere people.

after paying?
go collect it for him now

this damage is very extensive.. must have affected the chassis....

in a Short while the car will start vibrating

always do a thorough check on the vehicles VIN before buying.. be warned

most Nigerian dealers are not to be trusted

Explorers:
Results


let's imagine that;


Last bid - $275

Additional fee - $1,000

Trucking/Towing to nearest port - $200

Shipping roro - $1, 200

Clearing - ₦500, 000

But your quote did not include the amount they spent to repair the vehicle nah

Cosplay:


It's a 17 character number. Depicted are the more common locations on the vehicle to obtain the VIN.

Sometimes a simple Google search helps, but often a comprehensive report may be necessary. There are various categories of VIN reports with varying levels of details and history.

There are a couple of free VIN Autocheck threads lying around, like

https://www.nairaland.com/4452448/free-vehicle-history-cars-usa

Or you may need a paid VIN check service such as that provided by Computerglobal over in the Autos Section.

Bros can u check this for me?
4T3BE11A49U002317

Format1:



Hello, 2006 Toyota Corolla , is 2m-2.2m..Find out, also, that car has no issue a feared on here, the fender, the bonnet and bumper affected has been replaced appropriately, the dealer should have sold 2m, since its accidented.but, a clean title 2006 corolla Is good at 2.2m, ,dont forgey, some agent buys for dealerz here, add up 275+1200+200, then clearing and cost of replacing those parts, bonnet is 65k, alone

I am not disputing the price, he can choose to sell at 5m if he will get a buyer. My point is that he sold a very badly damaged vehicle as though it was a clean title or at worst, had minimal damages.

gonkin:
From the pictures i see replacement for
Radiator
Condenser
Radiator fan
Both headlamps
Bumper
Steering
Probably the engine and transmission 350k to 400k
Shock absorbers
Entire from wheels frame work
Both fenders and dont forget the people working it.
But if the engine made it then thats way better

Yeah thats above 600k

with this your analysis, ask yourself if its worth it. No dealer will spend that much to fix an accidented vehicle.

aonag:


nothing really happend to this Toyota na in nigerian standard..its from the frontside not direct front impact. I would never buy this and sell to someone rather If I am so interested in this car, I would buy it and fix it to factory and make sure it is working the way it should with no issues if at all I want to sell

well, that's one way to look at it.

somehow:
Dealer made around d #700k from this alone. Almost enough to buy another car.

Are you from the moon? How much do you think it cost the dealer to fix that recked car?

YorubaAssasin:


There's what is called:

Online-Bidding fees (if bidding done online)

loading fees (to take it out of the auction lot),

Buyer's fee (Lion % of the total fees)

Taxes

Other miscellaneous fees (varies on the status of the buyer)

Again, it's NOT necessarily the prices stated by the OP. It could be more or less.

but why would he go through all that trouble for a badly damaged vehicle. I want to believe that there would have been better options around.

na2016:


That is with black market rate oo. Dont be surprised that the dealer maybe buying it at CBN rate. Fear some Nigerians..

true talk.

YorubaAssasin:


Firstly, I need to know what you guys are complaining abt. Are you guys disputing the vehicle salvage status or the final price tag? From what the OP put up there, I think it's reasonable even though it's a very bad deal. IMHO.

The $275 isn't the net/final price sold at the auction. That price is what's called the pre-bidding price prior to the actual auction. After the real auction might have taken place, the final bidding price is likely to surpass the $275. Okay let's assume the final bid price is $275...

The $1K add fee is mandatory but, not necessarily that much. It's usually a % of the total cost + numerous fees (paper-work) added up. So let's assume it's $1K... So, let's do the math...

$(275 + 1,000 + 200 + 1,200) = $2,675 * N360 = N963,000 + N500,000 (Clearing Cost) = N1,463,000

Let's NOT forget, the car was fixed by whoever that bought it... and from the damages I'm seeing, the total fix price to get this to its current shape would be nothing less than $1,500 - $2,000 = N540,000 - N720,000. Let's say it's N540,000


N1,463,000 + N540,000 = N2,003,000.

Again, this is the minimum net price given the info. provided by OP. So why the hassle... everyone whining upandan. This is one of the numerous reasons I advice folks to rather buy a car in Nigeria than from here in the U.S. The only advantage of buying foreign (developed nation)used cars is proper usability (good roads/dealership maintained etc.. ) and less-salvage value compared to 9ja used.

Though, this is a very bad deal given the extent of damage and cost of repair of this particular vehicle. I expected someone like "Explorers" to have dug more info. before coming out to cry foul.

I am not disputing the salvage status, not at all sir. I am only wondering why someone would go through so much hassles for a vehicle badly damaged.

ogbiwa:


Things are done differently here unfortunately (or fortunately, I don't know). And like I said these repairs are done by dealers who are looking for every possible means to cut costs on a car they're even yet to sell and recover expenses! I see you quoting $500 (N180,000) for straightening the bent frame! wow wow wow. You see that 50k for panel beating/welding/painting I quoted? That straightening is inside there for the panel beater. I've seen my panel beater do that for another car right before my eyes, and all he used was a heavy chain hooked to a strong tree trunk We're not all lazy youths down here bro

Wow. Thanks. Learning a lot