kopfschmerzen:



Lols!!! Keep drinking your own koolaid. The proposal he said they are considering on live TV and make an about turn the next day same for gun control.

Y'all are so far gone in the anus of this orange buffon even if he slap your mother on Live TV, y'all will still spin it.

Lols keep living in your third world delusion.

GalaticHorde:
and how is that bill beneficial to middle income America? that it benefits the top 1% and skyrockets the budget deficit is what you're honestly touting as a beneficial economic policy? and I thought you were smart! where is the trickle down effect? GM is shutting down factories, coal coys are shutting down, truckers are loosing freight contracts and farmers are living on government handouts (yup, socialism baby!) but you're like "he signed a sweeping tax bill!" What part of your understanding did the bill sweep away? because I can promise you, it swept part of middle Americas average income earnings away

Anduku:

This overwhelming majority

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/428958-poll-voters-want-the-government-to-provide-healthcare-for%3famp

Anduku:

Oh you have quickly pivoted to "they were considering" ? What a clown!! You expressly claimed he made those proposals but backtracked from it the next week, but now that you have been caught in your usual liberal lies, you admit he never made the proposal but was just "considering it" in what world does thinking about something equal to doing it? Liar!!! That's what you are. He never made such proposal and he couldn't have backtracked from it when he didn't make it in the first place

Anduku:

This overwhelming majority

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/428958-poll-voters-want-the-government-to-provide-healthcare-for%3famp

A new poll finds that about only one in 10 registered voters want the equivalent of Medicare for all if it means abolishing private health insurance plans.

GalaticHorde:


This overwhelming majority right?

Even Republican voters seemed to disagree with certain conservative ideology on health care. The Hill-HarrisX survey found that 26 percent of GOP voters said they wanted the government to stop paying for health care, while a total of 53 percent favored some form of universal government-provided insurance. Twenty-one percent said they want to keep the current health care system in place.

The issue of expanded government health care has also played out at the state level, where some GOP-controlled legislatures have seen their positions against Medicaid expansion under the 2010 Affordable Care Act overturned by voters in ballot measures. Republican officials in Idaho and Utah are currently seeking to curtail voter-approved Medicaid expansions amid legal threats against their efforts.

The Hill-HarrisX survey was conducted among a statistically representative sample of 1,001 registered voters from Feb. 1-2. It has a sampling margin of error of 3.1 percentage points.

Anduku:

Oh, from he doesn't have a policy to how will it benefit middle income middle income Americans? Shifting the goalposts are we?

budaatum:

This "overwhelming majority" duk?



Does kamalacare abolish "private health insurance plans"?

Anduku:

Stop writing meaningless epistles full of bullshit!!! When I say the polls found 90% of Americans don't want you messing with their private healthcare plans and will choose their private healthcare plans over medicare for all any day, I mean 90%!!! And unless you think 90% is not an overwhelming majority, I don't know what you are yapping about.

GalaticHorde:
alright, you win! An economic policy devastating the middle class is still an economic policy right? For a e republican, a win is a win no matter the cost right? Way to go Einstein

GalaticHorde:
the epistle might be full of bullshyte, your POV anyways, but it isn't my bullshyte now is it? That bullshyte is totally yours seeing as it is an excerpt from the link you so graciously provided, you see, liberals read more than just headlines

Anduku:

If read more than the headlines, you wouldn't be spewing the bullshit you were spewing up there. I felt the need to go screen grab that cos you were trying to pull a wool over the eyes of others on the forum so I had to lay it bare for them to see for themselves and not through your lens of distortion. 90% of Americans prefer their private healthcare plans to your Medicare for all. Kiss the truth!!!

kopfschmerzen:


Please STFU if the proposal was not made, how do the post got to know about such proposal?

During the presser it was not denied but he said he's looking into it and later said he's not considering it. Which of that is too hard for you to comprehend.

Good luck in defending the bullshhit you do daily here. Your lord and personal savior is ordering all US conpany he China to get back home, your lord think he's an king or something.

His latest idiocy just took the DOW south of over 500 points. Lols you can keep spewing jargon from your hellhole since none of this impact your life.

Anduku:

This is the problem I have debating with you liberals, you find it nearly impossible to make factual comments and lie endlessly without shame. Since you can't provide any evidence that Trump made such a proposal, I will help you explain what you are finding difficult to understand. A government can discuss so many options behind the scenes, that doesn't equate to making a proposal. It's just like having a problem and thinking of different possible solutions to it, in the presser you are referring to, Trump said, "Payroll tax is something that we think about, and a lot of people would like to see that, and that very much affects the workers of our country,". How does him saying it's something they think about equate to him making a proposal for that? He was even very clear in that presser that he was quote, "not talking about doing anything at this moment" and here you are saying he backtracked, how does someone backtrack from a proposal that wasn't even made? Like I said, lay off the CNN opium and start thinking for yourself

Anduku:

The economic policy is not devastating the middle class. More People are getting jobs and earning higher and spending more too. The data is there for all to see. I've posted it here on numerous occasions. I only pointed out your goalpost shifting because that's one game I am not interested in playing today. You guys have mastered the art of shifting the goalposts once your are proven wrong. Someone says Trump has no economic policies, I say he is wrong, I am asked to name one of his policies, I do then al of a sudden you guys want to make it about how well the supposedly nonexistent policy is working? You guys learnt well from the lunatic liberal politicians you support, just like they said trump colluded with Russia and when 2 years of Muller couldn't prove that they quickly want to make it about obstruction. Will there have been any question of obstruction if they didn't lie about Trump colluding with Russia?

Anduku:

Which of them? She's flip flopped so much on the issue that I don't know which of her plans you are talking about

GalaticHorde:

And this is basically the main body of the poll and actually how it concluded

GalaticHorde:
show me this data if you don't mind, data you post for the benefit your republican shrills with no liberal to debate you? I am here now, shoot! And like I said the top 1% including trump with a $20million tax cut benefits from a tax cut which the middle class pays for with consumate increase in budget deficit and you're like yeah we got an economic policy? Way to go Einstein

budaatum:

It doesn't matter. Even obamacare did not abolish "private health insurance plans"!

Anduku:


For God's sake, can't you use you brain for the purpose it's meant for? Someone said it's something they were thinking about and you came here to say he made a proposal about it. How are those two the same thing? Damn it man!! I said exactly the same thing ing the response I gave you earlier but it is clear you don't even read posts before rushing to respond to them with whatever liberal gibberish you can come up with. This is what I told you earlier, that's hoping you will be smart enough to read it this time;

kopfschmerzen:



Another round of gibberish!! This admin is legendary for flip flop on policies every gaddem time and this one too is many of numerous.

Your lord just backtracked on cutting foreign aid by $4 billion waiting for you to spin this one too.

Anduku:

So what is your argument, that the poll does not say that 90% of Americans prefer their private healthcare to Medicare for all or what?

GalaticHorde:

My argument is this poll says this down here about republican voters and no the poll wasn't outrightly specific on a this or that option, if you may it shows that majority of Americans want single payer or government provided insurance in one form or combination or another and this is just one poll, others show greater preference for single payer coverage even when the cost saving details are still not fully appreciated http://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2019/06/medicare-for-all-polls-public-option-kaiser-popular-misunderstood.html

And please don't forget to remind me what form of health insurance that covers everything the military and congress is covered by

Anduku:

Please don't even make me go into obamacare .
One of Obama's most popular lies that has received four Pinocchio's on all fact checking sites is, " if you like your healthcare plan, you can keep it" it was a lie as I am sure you probably know already. Don't go there budaatum, this is a lie that is well documented

Anduku:
More for you galactichorde

https://www.ig.com/au/news-and-trade-ideas/other-news/us-q1-2019-gdp-rises-3-2--and-exceeds-expectations-190426

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.axios.com/us-gdp-32-first-quarter-growth-fd227948-b4f6-47f2-aee4-9a555ebd6fa1.html

budaatum:

I don't know anything of the sort. What I do know is nobody can take away any Americans private healthcare because it is protected by the first ammendment, though, I wouldn't be surprised if you're be tempted to ask me to provide evidence for that.

Show me documented!

GalaticHorde:
?

Anduku:
More Mr galactichorde

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/22/trump-health-agenda-transparent-drug-prices-lower-insurance-costs-column/1721645002/

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/05/health/drug-prices-rebates-sotu.html

GalaticHorde:


Seriously? An opinion column from last year? I could write one right to pander to you if you like


Couldn't open, copy and paste so i can read and debate

Anduku:

So we should leave the raw data before our eyes and listen to the liberalsplaining fake news media talking heads? I prefer to stick to the data and leave fake news MSM and their liberal spins